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Better Living Through Chemistry Discussions of any and all sorts of mind-warping chemicals, pills, booze, mind machines, trippy stuff, current street prices, importing pharmaceuticals, smart drugs, nutrients, herbs, and altered states. Please try to keep your conversations "theoretical" in nature, since this is an open conference.

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Old 2003-08-06, 05:52
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will you let your kids do drugs?
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Old 2003-08-06, 05:53
djmnag djmnag is offline
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Depends On what drug, and the situation.
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Old 2003-08-06, 05:54
xSkrying xSkrying is offline
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id let them do weed and any legal stuff they can dig up
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Old 2003-08-06, 05:54
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Only if they have a tendency towards agressive behavior.
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Old 2003-08-06, 05:55
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quote:Originally posted by xSkrying:

id let them do weed and any legal stuff they can dig up

Dumb ass, OTC cause MORE, longer lasting damage than illegal drugs. Nice move. Ever wonder why those drugs ARE legal?
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Old 2003-08-06, 05:57
I_Tweak_Too I_Tweak_Too is offline
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quote:Originally posted by Lokil:

Dumb ass, OTC cause MORE, longer lasting damage than illegal drugs. Nice move. Ever wonder why those drugs ARE legal?

weed, shrooms, only if they told me about it ahead of time and i could make sure they know all about the substance before taking anything.
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:00
CRaZyAmishMaN CRaZyAmishMaN is offline
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depends on what age they are.

naturally, if i find that my 10 year old son* smoking up i'll give him a good talking to [which i will do hopefully before he gets into that, probably around 13, 14... just to prevent his drug use until he's mature]

if i find my 16 year old smoking up i'll talk to him about the responsibility he has and the dangers of drug use [especially driving under the influence of ANYTHING]

and i'll talk to him about the dangers of alchohol [which is much more than weed (death, no decision making skills, ect)]

i'll let a 16 year old do it and i'd prefer to not notice that he's fucked up [or at least not too high to carry on a conversation]

if it's heroin, coke, or other dangerous drugs** i'll give him a [b]BIG talking to... and a punishment [early curfew]

basically-

weed's ok at a mature age, hard drugs are not acceptable at all.

* all situations are hypothetical

** yeah, i know, it's subjective
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:00
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i would be cool with my kids doing any drug, but i would do it with them the first time so they know how to do it right. hell, i would teach my kid to shoot up if he wanted.
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:14
Pikcle Pikcle is offline
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As long as they do it as safely as possible, I dont think I would have a problem with it. I would make them research it first, then possibly do it in front of me, so I could be a 'sitter'.

Cheers,

Pikcle
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:15
BloodHound01 BloodHound01 is offline
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quote:Originally posted by weed man:

i would be cool with my kids doing any drug, but i would do it with them the first time so they know how to do it right. hell, i would teach my kid to shoot up if he wanted.

I hope you dont have kids.
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:16
CRaZyAmishMaN CRaZyAmishMaN is offline
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quote:i would be cool with my kids doing any drug, but i would do it with them the first time so they know how to do it right. hell, i would teach my kid to shoot up if he wanted.i see a social worker in your future...

and they are angry...

and also some obligatory psychotherapy...

and a divorce with your spouse getting the children...
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:19
Shonkman Shonkman is offline
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I'd let my kid experiment with drugs as soon as they were at a resonable age (a reasonable age to me would be when i started doing drugs).......i would also give them all the info related with the drug they are trying from the effects, the price, to the consequences, and addiction potentials....just to educate them on it so they have knowledge towards the drug and don't treat it like "something to get fucked up on"
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:23
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moderation is the key. i will tell my kid their first time with shrooms or pot ( nothing else) has to be with me, and i will explain that it is a recreational drug, not a lifestyle, then i will tell him/her to get into growing some for his/her old man and selling so he/she can make some big money, then we will play playstation 5

[This message has been edited by alchemist (edited 08-06-2003).]
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:25
CRaZyAmishMaN CRaZyAmishMaN is offline
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quote:i would also give them all the info related with the drug they are trying from the effects, the price, to the consequences, and addiction potentials"Son, go to https://www.Totse.com and research your drugs before you do them!"
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:28
Fragman Fragman is offline
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I would let my kids do just about any drug that I had already tried. (Addictive drugs theyre only allowed to do twice every year, and no heroin, and no PCP) I'd buy them cigarettes and booze if they wanted it, and probably smoke up with them every weekend, as long as they got decent grades.

Actually smoking with my kid sounds like a lot of fun(it'd be even more fun if my wife didnt know) But with my luck my kid will turn out to be some goody-two shoes little pussy who spends all his free time at the library. But ive got a plan to prevent this: Show him porn in 6th grade, give him his first beer in 6th grade, give him his first cigarette in 7th grade, teach him how to curse, blow stuff up, etc. And schedule playdates early-on with the troublemaker kids. With drugs though, you gotta wait until you catch your kid, and if you follow this plan, it wont be long, then pull him aside, whip out a packed bowl, and smoke.
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Old 2003-08-06, 06:50
Armed&Angry Armed&Angry is offline
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I hope me and my kid can sit down and have a beer now and then, and if he's careful, maybe I'd look the other way if I found his weed pipe. But if he brings pcp or heroin or something into my house, he gets chained up in the basement.
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Old 2003-08-06, 07:07
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i think that kids will do what they want (i know i do) and i can't stop that. well, i probably could, but that would require being extreme and always around, something that i seriously doubt that would happen. about harry, it isn't too bad. i think that any drug is okay if it is free, or really cheap. i could grow some poppy and make opium and heroin, but you can only get so much, so it would work its way out. how can you be addicted to something if you can't get it? it will be limited naturally, i refuse to limit another human being. that isn't free. i find delight in freedom, and hatred in confinement. i would be a fucking pirate on the international waters and have my own little unihabited island with shit tons of fields of plants. cocaine, opium, weed, salvia, all of it. grow it all, make it all myself. go out to the sea and get away from it sometimes. be fucking free man. that is the best drug. and i will have it. maybe not forever, but for at least a month or more. run the boat engine off my own grain alcohol, go into cities and sell some shit and sometimes buy some stuff. just be out there with some women. if they start getting tired of the lifestyle, they can go back. every one will do as they please. indulge in all that makes me happy. i will fucking do it. this ain't no pipe dream.
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Old 2003-08-06, 07:28
Kinky_Chronic_420 Kinky_Chronic_420 is offline
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of course i'll let my kids do drugs.
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Old 2003-08-06, 07:38
danieltxhc danieltxhc is offline
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When I have kids, I'll probably let them use drugs when they get to a more mature age, such as 15 or 16. I'll give them a talking to about how I used all sorts of drugs during my teenage years and that they can use whatever they want, as long as it doesn't start dramatically affecting their life. Because we all know, even if you tell a kid it's ok to smoke weed but nothing else, they'll still delve into other drugs.
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Old 2003-08-06, 14:33
jjsx21 jjsx21 is offline
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Most of the life my kids have known with me, I,ve been the poster boy for drug prevention.

They know I occasionally do reef, and am on a pain therapy program. They know ALL my views on drugs,and,mainly, that they should ALL be legal. Neither does drugs. If, in the future,they choose to, thats their choice,and I,ll dive them any help/support needed, unless they do so unwisely. My daughter is 18, my son is 16.
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Old 2003-08-06, 17:53
cookiemnstr8me13 cookiemnstr8me13 is offline
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I don't think i'd toke up with my son or daughter. Well, maybe i'd smoke like one joint of just mild stuff but no more than that because i wouldn't want to get really blazed with my parents. it'd be embarrassing.

things i'd let my kids do...

Weed

Shrooms (i'd be there for the first few times)

LSA

DXM

Cigars and Tobacco in a pipe ( definately NOT cigs.)

X (not around me)

Saliva

they can have a beer or some wine when they want

pretty much anything that isn't real addicting or bad for them. Well tobacco prob ain't that good but who cares. and weed we can make vaporizers together. I'd just make sure these are all in moderation, cept weed which can be used a lot just not so much it affects school or something.
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Old 2003-08-06, 18:02
GANJAMIN GANJAMIN is offline
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Hell yeah, I'd let them do about anything but meth, ecstacy, heroin, coke, and alcohol, I'd be their trip sitter should they need one. Id teach them proper techniques, safe administration, show them erowid and totse, theyd be a chip off the old brick. They would have to share some with me occasionally though.
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Old 2003-08-06, 18:08
GANJAMIN GANJAMIN is offline
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I hope i never have kids though, my kids would be total psychos.
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Old 2003-08-06, 18:22
I_Tweak_Too I_Tweak_Too is offline
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quote:Originally posted by GANJAMIN:

I hope i never have kids though, my kids would be total psychos.

lol yeah mine would probably be crack babies, and thats not fun.

EDIT: 500 posts!! woohoo! party was at my house!!

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Old 2003-08-07, 22:17
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i will let my kid experiment.hell i will probally smoke pot with him.if he started smoking crack or shooting herion then i would have aproblem
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Old 2003-08-07, 22:42
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"Weed

Shrooms (i'd be there for the first few times)

LSA

DXM

Cigars and Tobacco in a pipe ( definately NOT cigs.)

X (not around me)

Saliva

they can have a beer or some wine when they want"

Oh yeeeeah, mmmmm, sweet sweet saliva, the sweet nectar of life, the ambrosia of the gods. I wish I could get my hands on some .
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Old 2003-08-07, 22:46
etcetablah etcetablah is offline
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I really hope you mean Salvia. Otherwise, I'm worried for your children.
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Old 2003-08-07, 22:57
I_Tweak_Too I_Tweak_Too is offline
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quote:Originally posted by OpiateSeclorum868:

Saliva

they can have a beer or some wine when they want"

Oh yeeeeah, mmmmm, sweet sweet saliva, the sweet nectar of life, the ambrosia of the gods. I wish I could get my hands on some .

hah! wow... i never knew, you would actually let them try saliva!!!? jeezus... spit can be pretty addicting, you may want to rethink that one.

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Old 2003-08-07, 23:55
dimethyltryptamine dimethyltryptamine is offline
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weed man i hope you die a slow and agonizing death involving,kevlar rope,razor blades,iodine,salt,a mini welding torch,2 gallons of muriatic acid and a tree right next to the grand canyon so i can fucking tie youre dick with rope on the tree and push you off,gladly.



i might let my children smoke pot but not as an everything thing and some pyscadelics,but if i cought him doing anything else they would be in knee high fucking shit.

but i doubt ide let them smoke pot,because for me atleast i know pot helped lead me onto other drugs,i dont fucking care what you say
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Old 2003-08-08, 00:20
kronikus kronikus is offline
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As soon as he/she starts high school would be the age I would allow social drug use. However, I would still have to preach moderation and such.



I wanna see if Meta posts...
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Old 2003-08-08, 00:43
LoeJ LoeJ is offline
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My friends and I used to talk about this. I always jokingly said, "I'll only ground my son if he doesn't bring home drugs and a bitch for me too." Of course this was mostly in jest. Statuatory rape charges aren't to be taken lightly.

But, in all seriousness, I will be the coolest dad. All through his life, my kids will be surrounded by and educated about drugs. I will never offer them drugs though, they will have to ask. I'll say no till 13, at this point I'll allow controlled amounts of weed. If grades or behavior are a problem, drugs get cut. At 16, anything I do will be allowed. I'll want to share the experience of the first trip, the first roll, etc. It's just so awesome to share someones discovery of psychadelics. I'll help the kids throw parties at the house, allow wasted friends to crash, etc., etc. I won't allow any tobacco or alcohol though. If my kid wants anything I don't do, I'll make them research it a ton first. Maybe do a report for me or something. And, I'll get it for them from a trusted source. I'll monitor use of addictive substances and whatnot. Hm, I can't think of anything else.
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Old 2003-08-08, 00:56
D3lirious D3lirious is offline
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i dunno
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Old 2003-08-08, 01:42
GANJAMIN GANJAMIN is offline
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Dimethyltryptamine, you have to start somewhere, it might as well be with one of the safest drugs around, its much better that way. If you think anything different is going to happen if the first drug he does is say, salvia, or any other worthwhile drug for that matter, you are sadly mistaken. The only drug I can even see within the realm of possibility of soemone starting out with and only using is pharm grade opiates, and still its doubtful. You may be reluctant to let your children try it because of the mistakes you made that you wish to blame on pot, but not all people make mistakes like that, and hopefully none will be so stupid as to blame their mistakes, or what they may perceive as mistakes, on pot because they are too cowardly to accept responsibility for their own choices.
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Old 2003-08-08, 01:52
I_Tweak_Too I_Tweak_Too is offline
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quote:Originally posted by kronikus:

As soon as he/she starts high school would be the age I would allow social drug use. However, I would still have to preach moderation and such.

seconded, i would also have to make them(?) wait until high school if not later.
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Old 2003-08-08, 01:54
dimethyltryptamine dimethyltryptamine is offline
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accually ide rathor him smoke some salvia extract than pot but the salvia would freak them the fuck out and they would probaly not try shit for AWILE.

of course ide rather s/he smoke pot than drink. but if they have smoked pot they are sure gonna fucking drink because theyll say what the fuck its legal,how bad can it be.

and im scared he will like drinking more than pot,alcoholism and addiction runs in my blood on both sides of the family.

my first time drinking i had 9 and a half 12oz icehouses when icehouse was one of the cheapest fucking beers around.lol my first time drinking i came very close to alcohol posioning,thats pretty sad.

i dont want that shit happening to my son or daughter
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Old 2003-08-08, 04:29
HIGH and Rising HIGH and Rising is offline
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It seems to me like you guys are totally disollusioned about parenting.

For the guys who say "I'd trip out with my kids for their first time"... yeah right. You think that's your choice? No kid is gonna ask his dad to trip with him. That's the type of experience that you're supposed to do with people your age (it's called growing up).

I have a cool dad. He knows I smoke pot and he "lets" me do it (by not stopping me or impeding me) but not when he's around. That's really all I want. I know lots of kids who smoke up with their dad and stuff, and it certainly doesn't add up to having better kids. Matter of fact, they're all unemployed bums who do nothing but smoke pot all day.

I mean, if you plan on allowing your kid to try drugs at a controlled pace, where you supply the drugs and dole them out at certain ages and withhold them if their grades slip... what are you thinking? Hey, they have certain ages for alcohol too, guys, and did you follow that?

If your 10 year old kid asks for weed and you say "not till you're 13" he's wait till he's 11, get impatient, and go get some by himself. Then you've got a freaking young pothead on your hands. If you take his weed away because he's not doing his homework, he'll go to a friends house and smoke some there. I don't know why you guys think you'll have such an insane amount of control over your kids' decisions. Isn't that why you hated your own parents when you grew up?
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Old 2003-08-08, 06:46
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quote:Originally posted by dimethyltryptamine:

weed man i hope you die a slow and agonizing death involving,kevlar rope,razor blades,iodine,salt,a mini welding torch,2 gallons of muriatic acid and a tree right next to the grand canyon so i can fucking tie youre dick with rope on the tree and push you off,gladly.

you want a shot at the title? i am called the jesus of the one-eyed monster that corrupts the minds of those who give in to its stimulating visions. that is why the government allows porn to play on tv, it is to make people want to eat jello and assassinate bb king with a barb wire hammock. it is like poetry. your words of wisdom have let me see into the troubled past of taco bell, i truly despise the new 44 ounce cups.

what else am i supposed to say? bo bo bo bo bo bo bo. STATAU

......... ARYGO6
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Old 2003-08-08, 07:18
GANJAMIN GANJAMIN is offline
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Now I understand where you're coming from. Alcoholism runs in my family too, and that is one vice I would never want to fall into, and I agree, I absolutely would NOT allow my children to drink, and if I caught them, they would be in deep shit. I would never want my child to drink any more than i would want them to do coke or heroin. Even I myself, a teenager for whom it is completely normal to want to drink, will not drink. Alcohol I consider to be the closest thing to the most dangerous drug there ever will be and would want to protect my children from it at all costs, but there is a time, when you can no longer make decisons fro your child and you can no longer protect them and have to let them make their own decisions, that time is called college.
 
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