I know some people heard about Ripper who overdosed and died on painkillers and benzos i think... and how everybody on irc chatroom told him to do it and he did it...

Well today there was a simular type of tradegy... a 19 year old guy, took some mushrooms and, i heard from my sources that he took some pcp also and then went crazy, ran out on the street with a knife, tried to atack cops... stabbed himself and got shot by a cop... and died in the hospital...

I red the whole IRC log, how he took the shrooms, how he was coming up and saying that was gonna kill himself... but nobody beleived him... and guess what it happend...

This is so tragick, its unbeliavable, there is a chance that he had some mental problems prior his drug use but its undertermined... he was a nice cool guy ... but now he is dead.

This log has been edited, non relavent parts have been removed, but all of Override's statements

are intact...

The news story is at http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0802shootingdeath.html



Log begins on Thursday, July 31st at 11:12 pm (e.s.t.)

[23:12] * OverRide (~someone@oh-lyndhurst6a-178.clvhoh.adelphia.net) has joined #XXXXX

[23:12] <OverRide> is anyone in here in #drugs?

[23:13] <OverRide> can you invite me

[23:13] <thepimp> intrama destroyed it

[23:13] <OverRide> why

[23:13] <thepimp> cause hes the boss

[23:13] <thepimp> and hes the only one with 500 access

[23:13] <OverRide> intrama just hooked me up with an 8th of shrooms

[23:13] <thepimp> hes a cunt peice of shit

[23:13] <^^kitsune> no kidding

[23:13] <thepimp> serious ?

[23:13] <OverRide> im about to call his ass and ask him why

[23:13] <^^kitsune> good for you

[23:14] <OverRide> yeah he lives right by me

[23:14] <OverRide> thats fucked up

[23:14] <thepimp> tell him to unlock drugs

[23:14] <OverRide> i'll call him and ask him about it

[23:14] <thepimp> yeah

[23:14] <OverRide> but right now i need to know how to eat these shrooms

[23:15] <OverRide> they smell like garbage

[23:15] <^^kitsune> you just eat them

[23:15] <FendaLinu> he probably gave you bunk shrooms

[23:15] <FendaLinu> cuz hes shady like that

[23:15] <^^kitsune> grind them up into a chocolate milkshake

[23:15] <^^kitsune> eat half

[23:15] <OverRide> i have no chocolate milkshake

[23:15] <FendaLinu> just eat em they dont taste that bad

[23:15] <^^kitsune> thats why you make one

[23:16] <^^kitsune> hold your breath and swallow quick

[23:16] <^^kitsune> i still say youre a pussy

[23:16] <^^kitsune> shrooms taste good

[23:16] <OverRide> should i like lol

[23:16] <OverRide> hah

[23:16] <OverRide> they arent the greatest thing ever

[23:17] <FendaLinu> got me pretty high though

[23:17] <^^kitsune> sometimes the mild tasting ones are the trippiest

[23:17] <OverRide> does it really matter if they are caps or stems?

[23:17] <OverRide> thats what i thought

[23:17] <OverRide> i just ate about 3 stems

[23:17] <OverRide> how long do they take to kick in

[23:17] <Desolate> 5 grams

[23:17] <^^kitsune> 15minutes to an hour

[23:17] <Desolate> On an empty stomach

[23:18] <Desolate> In total darkness

[23:18] <Desolate> Let the body remain inert

[23:18] <^^kitsune> nice

[23:18] <^^kitsune> did you see god?

[23:18] <Desolate> Lay in a comfortable position

[23:18] <Desolate> Close your eyes through the whole trip

[23:18] <Desolate> Don't listen to any music



.....

[23:45] <OverRide> fuck i wish i would i known i was suppose to hold the shrooms in my mouth

[23:45] <OverRide> i just swallowed them

[23:46] <^^kitsune> youre not supposed to hold them in your mouth

[23:46] <^^kitsune> lol

[23:46] <FendaLinu> i just swallow

[23:46] <^^kitsune> just eat them

[23:46] <FendaLinu> so does missblaze i hear

[23:46] <OverRide> Onset : 10 minutes (when chewed and held in mouth)

[23:46] <OverRide> thats what erowid says

[23:46] <^^kitsune> she lied, fenda

[23:46] <^^kitsune> erowid isnt the be all and end all

[23:46] * t0ke- (t0ke@12-223-100-20.client.insightbb.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[23:46] <OverRide> i bet half you mother fuckers dont even get high

[23:46] <^^kitsune> youll be picking them out of your teeth for the next few hours anyways

[23:46] <OverRide> yeah thats what im doing now

[23:47] <OverRide> i got a piece stuck in one of my molars

[23:47] <^^kitsune> haha

[23:47] <OverRide> the one that i just got drilled for a cavity

[23:47] <OverRide> the dentist left a big hole there cause i was bitching about how it didnt feel right

[23:47] <OverRide> lol

[23:47] <OverRide> thats what i get

[23:48] <^^kitsune> got a pick?

[23:48] <^^kitsune> like a dentist pick?

[23:48] <OverRide> yeah upstairs

[23:48] <^^kitsune> thatll get it out

[23:48] <OverRide> im too lazy

[23:48] <^^kitsune> i used one to evacuate the holes in my jaws left from wisdom teeth being pulled

[23:48] <OverRide> uhh ow

[23:49] <OverRide> i better fucking halucinate like a mother fucker

[23:49] <OverRide> hehe

[23:49] <^^kitsune> if you keep harping on it youll stress your high away

[23:49] <^^kitsune> its best to just forget it

[23:49] <OverRide> dude seriously the BEST trip toy, is Milkdrop (a plugin for winamp

[23:49] <^^kitsune> start drinking

[23:50] <OverRide> drinking?

[23:50] <OverRide> no alcohol

[23:50] <OverRide> how bout bud

[23:50] <OverRide> ?

[23:51] <OverRide> lol

[23:59] <OverRide> oh yeah

[23:59] <OverRide> im coming up

[23:59] <OverRide> hehe



......an hour and 21 minutes later.....



[02:21] <OverRide> fuck this

[02:21] <OverRide> i hate the world

[02:21] <vap0r> word indeed

[02:21] <Desolate> hahahaha

[02:21] <OverRide> i am going to go kill myself

[02:21] <HATER_> gotta hit that shit before its ripe

[02:21] <OverRide> look for me in the news tomorrow

[02:22] <HATER_> really override?

[02:22] <vap0r> pull a ripper,then OverRide

[02:22] <OverRide> im going outside to stabmyself in the chest

[02:22] <HATER_> lotta ppl kill themselves

[02:22] <HATER_> whats gonna be special

[02:22] <HATER_> about ur

[02:22] <HATER_> s

[02:22] <OverRide> you think i am joking

[02:22] <Desolate> r|pper!

[02:22] <HATER_> can you do it on webcam?

[02:22] <OverRide> everybody look for it in the news tomorrow

[02:22] <OverRide> search your hardest

[02:22] <Desolate> hahahaha

[02:22] <Desolate> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[02:22] <OverRide> i live in ohio

[02:22] <zerozero> cool whats the url for the event

[02:22] <Desolate> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[02:22] <OverRide> mayfield heights

[02:22] <HATER_> go on webcam

[02:22] <OverRide> my name is dan bucci

[02:22] <OverRide> i am going outside to kill myself

[02:23] <OverRide> with my knife

[02:23] <vap0r> shut the fuck up lol you and i know you're not gonna kill yourself

[02:23] <HATER_> GO ON WEBCAM

[02:23] <vap0r> attention whore

[02:24] <Desolate> ;o

[02:24] <thepimp> hahahahah

[02:24] <thepimp> ill laugh if you do kill yourself

[02:24] <Desolate> *puts it on CNN*

[02:24] <Desolate> Nothing, he's a charlatan!

[02:24] <thepimp> make a note that says i died cause im on drugs

[02:24] <^^kitsune> that shit wont make cnn

[02:24] <Desolate> It would've been on CNN by now

[02:25] <^^kitsune> if he takes out his family too, then he has a chance

[02:25] <zerozero> and gives his dog aids

[02:25] <Desolate> It'll show up on CNN, on the bottom, no headlines though

[02:25] <Desolate> *not

[02:25] <Desolate> Or who knows, maybe it would

[02:25] <vap0r> hey OverRide

[02:26] <vap0r> make sure to give me a shoutout on your suicide note

[02:26] <Desolate> hahaha

[02:26] <vap0r> vap0r @ Undernet should do fine

[02:26] <HATER_> desolate join #nzconsole

[02:26] <Desolate> Give us all a shout out, here on #XXXXX on XXXXXXX

[02:27] <vap0r> and fuck stabbing yourself in the chest

[02:27] <vap0r> if you're gonna die by the blade then at least go for seppuku

[02:27] <vap0r> so u die with class

[02:27] <vap0r>

[02:28] <thepimp> we can just ask intrama if hes still around

[02:28] <Desolate> DISEMBOWEL YOURSELF!

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Just to clarify, the chatters didnt kill Override, nor did the police....

[23:13] <OverRide> intrama just hooked me up with an 8th of shrooms

Intrama did

What a stupid fuck.. I feel no sorrow for him what so ever. He was jsut trying to pull a ripper and failed because ripper was way bigger anyways.

[This message has been edited by sk8punk151 (edited 08-05-2003).]

quote:Originally posted by D3lirious:

Just to clarify, the chatters didnt kill Override, nor did the police....

[23:13] <OverRide> intrama just hooked me up with an 8th of shrooms

Intrama did

yeah , sad man really just sad, but he excepted the risks of taking a drug, and he payed the price. there is always concequences, whether they be good or bad.

Wow, just....wow

What a shame. The school year is just about to start. He could of at least ate some caps then butchered the football team.

He was right about one thing

That milkdrop visulisation is freaking awesome

I'm glad he's dead. Just another stupid uneducated drug abuser. He didn't even know what to do with the shrooms he had. I hope he didn't make the news. Just more bad press for responsible drug users. If he was a friend, sorry that you that you lost a friend. But I don't feel sorry at all for Dan Bucci of Mayfield Heights, OH who went outside to kill himself with his knife.

i feel kinda sorry for the guy,though it was kinda stupid.

i kinda figured after i read the part where the guy just gave him the mushrooms that they were no good and he probaly picked them from his front yard.

tht motherfucker who gave him the mushrooms should serve some time or atleast get fucking tourtured with a scalpel,some hemostats,salt,and pickled habaneros in vinegar if you ask me

oh nevermind i read the news story,lol atleast the guy had some fun wile before he died.

not that im making light of the situation or anything but those must have been some GOOD shrooms because i've never been out of my head that much and i been up to about 8 grams. he MUST have had underlying mental illness.

How do you not know he is lying. He could have found this story on the web and decided to make a big scene and say he was Dan Bucci?

So, the guy took a tiny bit of mushrooms that smelled like garbage? I wonder what kind of mushrooms they were? I highly doubt if they were psilocybin- there is a poisonous mushroom that looks identical in the field, and also they could have been Amanita Mescaria which is toxic, but probably not in that small amount. I totally doubt if psilocybin had anything to do with this, and the suggestion that it did is complete bullshit and propaganda that only ignorant and unaware people might believe.

You stated that you heard that he had done some PCP...

!!DUH!! Have you ever seen what happens to people who take PCP?? They often become completely delerious and behave in manners very similar to the incident reported in the newspaper. They often end up in the back of a police car as a result.

Soo, really we are talking about PCP here aren't we??

I wonder what the autopsy revealed?

The cops killed him, by the way and what you read in the paper is the cops exaggerated story to justify killing the guy. they always lie, exaggerate and distort the facts after they shoot and kill someone. That's a fact that is always verified when comparing their stories to those of actual witnesses.

Cops are the biggest damned cowards. In this case they have two squad cars on the sceen and they cannot neutralise a 19 year old kid with a knife? PLUS they are wearing body armor- Chicken shit bastards- this happens alot. chicken shit cops who are cowards and should not even be allowed to carry guns. They should be ashamed of them damned selves.

quote:...An officer shot Dan Bucci, 19, of Mayfield Heights, after he attacked her with a knife before dawn Thursday in this Cleveland suburb.

He died Friday of a gunshot wound to the abdomen at Hillcrest Hospital, said Cuyahoga County Coroner Elizabeth Balraj.

a fucking scared bitch pig. i was going to blame <vapor> until i read that. whoever blamed the dealer is a holier then thou piece of shit smeared on the floor and tracked onto the carpet

*Laughs out Loud*

Shame he died.

where does it say he did pcp? maybe i just missed it...

quote:Originally posted by BlindedByTheLight:

where does it say he did pcp? maybe i just missed it...

Read the original post again. I woke up this morning thinking that there certainly is something very suspicious about the story- mainly being the suggestion that psilocybin caused the behavior-

I've seen people get delerious and in a similar state on belledona, and on STP and on PCP but never aggressive and violent like that. I have seen people get pretty psycho abusing meth-amphetamines too- especially when mixing with other drugs like pain pills- CERTAINLY not on mushrooms though.

However, there are lots of cases where people have freaked out and had psychotic episodes like that on various psychiatric medicines, in fact most of those school shootings were a result of side effects of psychiatric meds- that is a known fact. If you research those you will see that they cause psychotic episodes in some people, which is what happened in those cases.

I know that they did blood tests on that guy, if not a complete biopsy and the results of the blood tests will show what drugs were in his system at the time of his death. This information might come out in the newspaper and it surely will be a part of the internal investigation by the police.

I would really be interested in seeing the results of those blood tests, because rigtht now it is a mystery as to what caused that behavior. He may have been abusing a number of different drugs up to that point too- maybe methamphetamines- who knows?

In any case I would like to know the results of the tests.

As far as the coward cops shooting the guy, as many of you may know, this is becoming too common. On Google news just yesterday or day before I saw an article about Milwaukee Police shooting the fifth unarmed motorist in the past 13 months in a traffic stop.

In my former neighborhood the pigs shot a little old oriental man, about 70 yrs old when they were called to a domestic dispute. The old man had a kitchen knife in his hand, was told to drop it and he would not drop it so a big 260 lb. police goon with a bullet proof vest on and 4 other officers present, gut shot the old man with a 44. Obviously the guy had the knife for his own protection or he would have used it before then.

Furthermore, some cops have extremely bad attitudes and try to provoke anyone they stop or detain, especially (almost always)in poor neighborhoods, and when the cowards have some back-up- they like to act real tough. Some of them are real assholes.

Oh, a clip from that Milwaukee story- Justice Department is investigating the 4 previous police shootings of unarmed motorists during trafic stops- but we know where that will lead- officer commited no wrong doing- believed that his life was in danger- blah blah blah- Police officer organizations are very powerful lobbies, and of course you are having cops investigate themselves in these matters so they always find themselves innocent.

quote:Milwaukee Police Shoot Man in During Stop

The Associated Press

August 05, 2003



A police officer shot and wounded a man during a traffic stop, the fifth time in 13 months that a motorist was shot by Milwaukee police.

The man, Timothy Nabors, 26, was shot Monday afternoon and was expected to survive, police said.

Nabors' grandmother, Lenora Carter, said four bullets hit him in the torso and arm. One bullet lodged in his spine, paralyzing him. He was in a coma Tuesday at a suburban Milwaukee hospital, she said.

Witnesses said Nabors was unarmed, but officers at the scene said he picked up a gun, said Police Chief Arthur Jones on Tuesday.

The shooting happened after Officer Michael W. Lutz and his partner pulled over the sport utility vehicle Nabors was driving.

Witnesses said Nabors immediately raised his hands when police asked him to get out, and also held up his shirt to show he was unarmed.



[This message has been edited by ClydeR (edited 08-06-2003).]

Actually the title of this topic should NOT be 'drug related internet type of death', but instead, Police Murder 19 year old

I should have started a new topic on police murdering citizens, but I'll just make my comment here.

I have a friend who lives in Detroit and observes alot of this stuff. He told me that since the anti-terrorism efforts and related training of police in detroit, that they have increased traffic stops by tenfold supposedly to counteract terrorism and have become extremely belligerant to people they stop or detain. One reason, he said, is because there is a significant Arab-American population in Detroit. Most cops don't even know what an Arab person looks like so they stop anyone who has darker skin. Anyway, I heard that it is really bad there. Here is a news article from way back in 2000.

Detroit leads US in police killings

By Jerry White

17 May 2000

Use this version to print

Detroit police officers kill citizens at a higher rate than police in any other big US city, according to FBI statistics made public by the Detroit Free Press Monday, May 15. Detroit had a rate of 0.92 fatal shootings per 100,000 residents, far higher than New York and Los Angeles, two cities recently scandalized by revelations of widespread police killings and brutality.

Detroit, with nearly 1 million residents, averaged nearly 10 fatal police shootings each year between 1990 and 1998. By comparison, New York, with 7.3 million residents, averaged 28 fatal shootings a year during the same period—a rate of 0.39.

Over the past few days, the Detroit Free Press and the Detroit News have published exposés about the police shootings and subsequent cover-ups by internal police investigators, the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office and the Michigan State Police. The articles have detailed several cases in which police officers killed or severely wounded senior citizens, teenagers and mentally ill persons, and then were exonerated after claiming they had fired in self-defense.

According to the News, of the 40 fatal shootings by police in Detroit in the past five years, 35 officers were cleared of any wrongdoing, while four were charged with misdemeanors. Only one police officer was convicted and sentenced to jail. Meanwhile, the city has paid a total of $8.6 million since 1995 to settle six lawsuits in which the police department cleared officers who shot citizens.

Former police executives and attorneys acknowledged that officers feel they can murder and terrorize city residents with impunity because they will not be held accountable. Police investigators focus on justifying the shootings, rather than determining what happened, they say, and the investigators routinely assist officers in concocting stories to protect themselves. Investigators also regularly fail to interview eyewitnesses and gather evidence against the police, they said.

“The failure of the Detroit Police Department to discipline its officers is intentional and deliberately indifferent to the rights of the citizens,” retired Police Commander Clinton Donaldson, who ran the internal controls division from 1986 to 1994, stated in a recent lawsuit brought by an unarmed man who was shot by police.

In eight cases, officers said they fired because people came at them with weapons, but autopsies found the victims were shot in the back. One such case in November 1997 involved Hong Leong, a 40-year-old factory worker with a history of mental illness. Police officers John Borgens and James Pratt chased Leong's car into a dead-end street after he screeched his tires while rounding a corner. The police said Leong, apparently drunk, climbed out his car with a 12-gauge shotgun, fired into the air and yelled, “Go ahead and shoot me!”

Police said they shot Leong when he turned on them with the gun. He died of 12 to 16 shots to the back and the palm of one hand. Although police evidence technicians found the shotgun had never been fired outside of Leong's truck, both homicide detectives and the Wayne County Prosecutor's office said the officers shot in self-defense.

“I think they executed him and the department covered it up,” said David A. Robinson, an attorney representing police victims, who worked 13 years as a Detroit police officer. “An officer can literally get away with murder so long as he recites the magical incantation of 'fearing for my life,' or hides behind the magical talisman of the 'dark, shiny object,'” Robinson said.

In some cases individual police officers have more than one fatal shooting to their “credit.” Officer Eugene Brown, of the department's Tactical Services Section, has killed three people and wounded six others in the six years he has been on the police force. In each case, the department and prosecutors ruled Brown acted appropriately.

Before being hired as a Detroit police officer Brown was unable to obtain law enforcement jobs elsewhere, including the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department, but he served as a security guard for Mayor Dennis Archer and City Council members for several months.

On February 8, 1995, Brown killed 30-year-old Roderick Carrington with three gunshots fired within 15 seconds. Though Brown said Carrington was charging him with a knife, the officer's partner saw the entire incident but did not fire.

On September 21, 1996 Brown fatally shot 20-year-old LaMar Grable with three shots in the chest, all fired from close range, and two bullets in the back. That night Brown and his partner, Officer Vicky Yost, were riding outside their precinct when they said they saw Grable walking in the rain, carrying a gun. The police said Grable, who did not have a criminal record, ran away when challenged and Brown opened fire.

The only fingerprints on the gun police said Grable was carrying belonged to Yost. “The police claimed our client had a gun, but never did check into the serial numbers of the gun to see where it can from,” attorney Sheldon Miller said. Yost failed to show up for three scheduled depositions in the case and then refused to testify, pleading her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

Although Brown was cleared of any wrongdoing, a court-appointed mediation panel recommended the city pay $750,000 to the family of LaMar Grable. But the young man's family has rejected the offer, and a lawsuit is scheduled for trial later this month.

City officials have repeatedly defended the actions of the police. Detroit Police Chief Benny Napoleon and Wayne County Prosecutor John O'Hair said the figures comparing Detroit police shootings to other cities did not take into account how violent the city's criminals were. “There is a very violent element in our city,” O'Hair said in an interview with the Free Press earlier this month. “It is high-risk, and this is the element the police deal with.”

Detroit Mayor Dennis Archer insisted that police officers were not trigger-happy, saying, “I have never met a police officer who fired a weapon who has felt good about it.” He defended the internal police investigators and Prosecutor O'Hair, saying, “the manner in which the cases have been handled thus far are consistent with good police practices.” Then in a gesture to “avoid even the appearance of conflict or impropriety,” the mayor announced that the department's Internal Control Bureau would conduct future investigations rather than Homicide detectives, adding that there was no need to reopen old cases.

The Detroit news media has long been aware of the prevalence of police brutality and official cover ups, but has generally said little about it. The recent revelations are a sign of growing concern that the police and prosecutor's office are being discredited and that the killings are undercutting the 25-year effort by city authorities to refurbish the image of the police department.

In the 1960s and 1970s the Detroit Police Department was notorious for its violence, particularly against minority youth. One police unit, dubbed STRESS—Stop the Robberies, Enjoy Safe Streets—carried out the execution-style killings of a more than a dozen black men in the space of a few years.

Coleman Young, the city's first black mayor, was elected in 1973 by pledging to disband STRESS and integrate the police force. Young and other Democratic officials oversaw the appointment of black police chiefs and the hiring of thousands of minority officers. But as social inequality grew in the 1970s and 1980s—particularly as the mass layoffs and plant shutdowns in the auto industry turned Detroit into the poorest big city in America—Young strengthened the powers of the police and embraced the politics of law and order.

Young's successor Dennis Archer has continued this course. As the Free Press noted, “Race was a crucial factor in police shootings in the 1960s and 70s, with black residents being shot by white officers. But blue is the color that matters. Fatal shootings these days do not fall in apparent racial patterns. The officers are black and white, and the civilians are white, black and Asian alike.”

Archer, a close political ally of the Clinton administration, presides over a city that is even more socially polarized than in Coleman Young's time. While the Detroit-area auto companies record tens of billions in profits, many of the city's working class areas are virtually uninhabitable after years of chronic poverty, unemployment and budget cutting. High-stakes gamblers bet more on a single roll of the dice at the newly built casinos than many residents of the city's blighted neighborhoods earn in an entire year. These are the conditions that have led the city's business and political establishment to rely even more on the brute force of the police.

here are some more logs...

<intrama> it wont be hilarious for the people in #xxxx when the fbi investagtors look at the logs from #drugheads and see that those people basicly helped assist in his suicide

<MiSsBlaZe> thats sick

<intrama> because they are most likely going to catch charges

<MiSsBlaZe> how did they help him

<linuxxe> heh

<intrama> i saw the log of that shit

<intrama> they were telling him to go do

<MiSsBlaZe> thats sick

<intrama> because they are most likely going to catch charges

<MiSsBlaZe> how did they help him

<linuxxe> heh

<intrama> i saw the log of that shit

<intrama> they were telling him to go do that shit

<intrama> thepimp.. and hater_

<MiSsBlaZe> telling him

<MiSsBlaZe> to stab himself?

<intrama> yep

<intrama> they told him to go do that shit several times

<MiSsBlaZe> what assholes

<linuxxe> ok alpha0 you pussy your just gonna get kb'd from drugheads posting all of the shit we're saying

<intrama> fuck #drugheads they arent even going to be able to get registered

<MiSsBlaZe> well hater_ is hidiously ugly

<intrama> is hater gohan or are those 2 seprately ugly people ?

<MiSsBlaZe> seperate

<intrama> i just emailed the log of the shit hater_ and thepimp were saying to him to the mayfield hts police cheif

<intrama> if i were them i would hope i dont live in the US

<MiSsBlaZe> oh

<MiSsBlaZe> once I wrote this guy a note

<MiSsBlaZe> saying I am going to murder him on wensday

<intrama> because just like last year when that shit happened in a AOL chatroom..

you can catch attempted murder.. and asst. suicide charges

<MiSsBlaZe> and the teacher got mad at me

<MiSsBlaZe> crap

<MiSsBlaZe> and said I should use diffrent wording

<intrama> override was a very cool person.. i smoked a fat blunt with the kid when he came to one of my shows

<linuxxe> heh

<intrama> that was tuesday

<intrama> wednesday i got him the shrooms

<MiSsBlaZe> oh

<MiSsBlaZe> poor guy

<MiSsBlaZe> was he good looking?

<linuxxe> get me some shr0oms

<linuxxe> lol ms blaze

<MiSsBlaZe> well I dunno

<MiSsBlaZe> I always ask that

<MiSsBlaZe> when someone dies

* SZ` has joined #drugs

<intrama> he was short

* SZ` has left #drugs

<MiSsBlaZe> oh

<intrama> in between 5'5" and 5'10"

<MiSsBlaZe> like my cousin threw marrage

<intrama> about 130 Lbs. or so

<intrama> but he was nice

<MiSsBlaZe> ahh ok

<drew_> haha

<MiSsBlaZe> he was so attractive

<MiSsBlaZe> and rich

<MiSsBlaZe> and had a crazy nice car

<intrama> and he didnt deserve to have people telling him to go kill himself while he was on shrooms and pcp

<intrama> no.. he was already depressed

<intrama> but when a depressed person tells you they are going to kill themselves

<intrama> you dont fucking say "go ahead"

<intrama> or "whatever"

<intrama> thats fucking irresponsible

<MiSsBlaZe> :/

<MiSsBlaZe> :"(

<intrama> and being online doesnt make it any different

<MiSsBlaZe> my friend told me she was gunna kill herself

<thedrugs> hey intrama, did you mail the logs of youself saying that u have no remorse and dont give a fuck, and did you tell them that you also sold him teh drugs that made him kill himself ???

Nobody was responsable for that guys death. People can't make you do things, they can only present you with opportunities and choices. It's up to the individual what they do with them.

it's a shame he died, and a shame he died, and a shame it had to lead back to the people in the room...

but it did happen, and it wasn't the drugs that killed him. [it was the bullets]

taking drugs while suffering from some form of mental disorder [which i think is pretty obvious in this case] is a risk that all responsible drug users will consider

taking drugs that you can't handle without the proper precautions isn't a good plan, and shouldn't be a risk anyone should have to consider.

this whole situation is fucked up. i cant blame the dealer, he didnt kill him. i cant blame the drugs, they didn't kill him. i cant blame the knife, it didnt kill him. i cant blame him, he didnt kill himself. a bullet from an "officer"'s gun killed him more directly than anything else, but i cant blame the cops entirely (how would you react if a sliced up guy on drugs with a knife was coming at you? would you really trust your body armor that much?).

why the fuck dont people realize that encouraging people on drugs who have problems to do stupid things is wrong? assholes.

it seems like a combination of a whole lot of bad factors resulted in this shit. there is no single thing that can be blamed.

and when did ripper die? was that while i was gone? that sucks to hear.

shit, that sux ass. that guy must have had some real problems.

quote:Originally posted by D3lirious:

Just to clarify, the chatters didnt kill Override, nor did the police....

[23:13] <OverRide> intrama just hooked me up with an 8th of shrooms

Intrama did

You=Dumbfuck

You claimed to read the whole IRC chat..this "dan" guy didn't even know how to ingest the mushrooms, go how else are you supposed to do it? He killed himself, no ones fault. I see it the same as if he didn't no anything about cocain or something, and took a whole bunch of it and died. He couldn't handle it and now hes dead. Sounds like he was just craving the attention...

quote:Originally posted by NoCal:

You=Dumbfuck

You claimed to read the whole IRC chat..this "dan" guy didn't even know how to ingest the mushrooms, go how else are you supposed to do it? He killed himself, no ones fault. I see it the same as if he didn't no anything about cocain or something, and took a whole bunch of it and died. He couldn't handle it and now hes dead. Sounds like he was just craving the attention...



watch who you piss off...you dont seem to understand the situation very well.

Well, then understand its not the drugs that killed him. Or the man that gave him the drugs, or the people that said all that stuff in the chat. HE TOOK THEM HIMSELF.

To whoever said "Intrama did it" is a fucking idiot. Selling someone drugs that they OD on is NOT killing them. It is only the users fault, not the dealer. -jeff