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Old 2003-07-14, 12:10
KarlMaloneSay KarlMaloneSay is offline
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Default get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

ya ya ya, im aware that these topics have come up before, but i have a few questions that were not answered in these posts...ok, im thinkin ill start taking a small amount of meth once or twice daily till the end of the summer to lose weight, and during school i take amphetamines by prescription anyway, so the amphetamines would help me keep the weight off, but as far as stopping the cycle of addiction with meth, would the amphetamines help as a substitute for meth? and, on erowid.org i read this meth experience of this chick and she said that if you drink enough of this one drink from GNC with ephedra in it, you cant tell the difference between that and meth...what do you all think about this idea? i know its a bad way to lose weight, but im lazy and dont have time to excercise

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Old 2003-07-14, 14:14
goofy2feet goofy2feet is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

ephedra is nothing like meth - raises metabolic rate, heart rate, etc., but it doesn't make you happy I think. still if you need to stay awake, lose weight, etc., it does the job.
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Old 2003-07-14, 14:35
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

ephedra is NOTHING like meth. NOTHING.
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Old 2003-07-14, 17:37
ivy123 ivy123 is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

i'll admit i'm a meth addict and i'm prescribe dexedrine for my adhd and it has helped me stay off a meth so far. it working great but sometimes i still get cravings.
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Old 2003-08-10, 18:54
lazy lazy is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

look.....man exercise if you wanna lose fuckin weight.its a stuped reason to get hooked on meth..run like 3 times a week and have a healthy diet and you will lose weight and not look like a fuckin junkie
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Old 2003-08-10, 19:42
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

Why not just skip the meth and use ephedrine to lose weight? It will still supress your apetite, but you won't become a meth addict.
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Old 2003-08-10, 21:05
travbrad travbrad is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

quote:Originally posted by SEN D-F:

Why not just skip the meth and use ephedrine to lose weight? It will still supress your apetite, but you won't become a meth addict.

Rather than make a new post I'll post it here since it's related to the topic. How long can you safetly go without eating? Will you pass out or anything after not eating for a certain period of time? I haven't eaten in 4 days but i'm not the least bit hungry, but i don't want to pass out or anything.
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Old 2003-08-10, 21:20
kronikus kronikus is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

Using meth to lose weight is a bad idea. What you think might be 1-2 times per week will turn into 1-2 times per day. And switching to another amphetamine isn't advisable, because you will use more than is prescribed to you to get the same feeling as meth gives you.
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Old 2003-08-10, 23:44
SisterCrystal SisterCrystal is offline
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Default Re: get off of meth using adderall, or ephedra?

I am a meth addict of several years, and I've been to rehab twice and countless 12 step meetings without success. Now I am in a harm reduction group that is really helping me get control of my life back. This group explores all the ways that meth negatively affects my life, and the circumstances under which it happens, and then helps me develop strategies to minimize the impact my addiction has on my quality of life. Since joining this group my use has gone from two or more grams a day of crystal to about a point a day. I want to get off the meth completely, but I can't stand how I feel without it - severe depression is only the beginning. Lack of concentration, memory problems, blunted aspect, all these plauge me when I go completely clean, even after over a hundred days without using. My counsellors and doctors are considering putting me on dextroamphetamine in a sort of a parallel to methadone maintainance for opiate addicts. I hope that this will stabilize my mood and help me function without needing to turn back to meth. I will of course be closely monitored and my supply of dexies strictly controlled, but this is the only strategy we haven't yet tried. If it goes ahead I will post the results.
 
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