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 #1 
Old 2007-03-08, 05:02
ThePrince ThePrince is offline
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Default Are girls really this dumb or are they just pretending?

I was talking to a girl from my school on aim just now and was chided for using a 'fancy word'.

The fancy word was significant

This isn't the first time some like this this has happened either.

In schoolwork of any sort, girls almost always say "I think the answer is..." and might top it off with "but I'm probably wrong" while men say "No Look! The answer is..." with confidence.

Do girls pull this kind of shit on purpose because society forces them to conform to an image of ditsyness or what?
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:06
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quote:Originally posted by ThePrince:

I was talking to a girl from my school on aim just now and was chided for using a 'fancy word'.

The fancy word was significant

This isn't the first time some like this this has happened either.

In schoolwork of any sort, girls almost always say "I think the answer is..." and might top it off with "but I'm probably wrong" while men say "No Look! The answer is..." with confidence.

Do girls pull this kind of shit on purpose because society forces them to conform to an image of ditsyness or what?

Think there actually that stupid. I'm fucking this black girl that describes her braids as 'highmatinese'.
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:07
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Sex with a black chick? What would bill keller say?
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:09
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quote:Originally posted by High on Datura:

Sex with a black chick? What would bill keller say?

Keep an eye out for the impending child support check?
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:13
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quote:Originally posted by High on Datura:

Sex with a black chick? What would bill keller say?



Gee why don't we all ring him and ask?
 #6 
Old 2007-03-08, 05:14
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quote:Originally posted by chumpion:



Gee why don't we all ring him and ask?



ROFL Thats the best fucking idea ive read all night!
 #7 
Old 2007-03-08, 05:26
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I'm a girl and I've experienced this from both sexes, but mostly women. I think, with the media and the way women are commonly treated as objects it becomes easy for them to just give up on sounding the least it intelligent. Because a lot of the "popular" girls aren't that smart (they pay too much attention to friends, sexual stuff and drugs to study mostly) some girls think that's how you get people to like you and follow suit. I personally loath the attitude, after trying it out for a little while in 7th grade when I had no idea WHAT guys want.

edit: hi brian

[This message has been edited by TehWTF (edited 03-08-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:31
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Girls make me sad.
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:31
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quote:Originally posted by ThePrince:

I was talking to a girl from my school on aim just now and was chided for using a 'fancy word'.

The fancy word was significant

LOL! ah man that brings back memories. Don't worry, just hang out with smart chicks or wait until the dumb ones mature a bit. Some people are just late bloomers. Somehowever, are just simple
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:34
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quote:Originally posted by TehWTF:

I'm a girl and I've experienced this from both sexes, but mostly women. I think, with the media and the way women are commonly treated as objects it becomes easy for them to just give up on sounding the least it intelligent. Because a lot of the "popular" girls aren't that smart (they pay too much attention to friends, sexual stuff and drugs to study mostly) some girls think that's how you get people to like you and follow suit. I personally loath the attitude, after trying it out for a little while in 7th grade when I had no idea WHAT guys want.

edit: hi brian



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 #11 
Old 2007-03-08, 05:37
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I had to explain to someone what 'dispenser' meant once.

What's the world comming to?
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:49
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quote:Originally posted by TehWTF:

I had no idea WHAT guys want.

We just want sex.

Women seem to play stupid a lot. I think it has a lot to do with not wanting to seem intimidating. Men are traditionally scared of of strong women. I like smart, indepedent women; my girlfriend does my homework(we're in the same major... not easy stuff either: Mechanical Engineering Technology).

I hate dumb people.
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Old 2007-03-08, 05:52
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Most girls think that guys like smart girls. I don't, so I can slap that bitch around in an argument.*



*I'm kidding.

By the way, there was a girl in my 8th grade class that didn't know what 'generous' or 'assassinate' was.
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Old 2007-03-08, 06:12
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quote:Originally posted by akiratheoni:

Most girls think that guys like smart girls. I don't, so I can slap that bitch around in an argument.*



*I'm kidding.

By the way, there was a girl in my 8th grade class that didn't know what 'generous' or 'assassinate' was.

I had to explain what monogamous meant to my last girlfriend.

That left me a little uneasy.

-F☺rd
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Old 2007-03-08, 06:17
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I don't think you can say one gender is smarter or dumber than another. There are just a lot of stupid fucking people in this world.

Actually I take a more cynical approach. I think she is probably dumb as a fox. She wants to play the role of a helpless victim so you can save her. Some people really got off on the psychological bullshit.
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Old 2007-03-08, 06:24
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Default Re: Are girls really this dumb or are they just pretending?

quote:Originally posted by TehWTF:

I'm a girl and I've experienced this from both sexes, but mostly women. I think, with the media and the way women are commonly treated as objects it becomes easy for them to just give up on sounding the least it intelligent. Because a lot of the "popular" girls aren't that smart (they pay too much attention to friends, sexual stuff and drugs to study mostly) some girls think that's how you get people to like you and follow suit. I personally loath the attitude, after trying it out for a little while in 7th grade when I had no idea WHAT guys want.



All the popular girls at my school were smart.
 #17 
Old 2007-03-08, 06:25
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Throughout all civilized societies Males are dominant over females. Females tend to feel inferior to males, thus answering your question.

Look at jobs in the workplace

Look at wages

Look at pornography

Look at violence against women

Males dominate females.
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Old 2007-03-08, 06:45
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quote:Originally posted by Megashira:

Throughout all civilized societies Males are dominant over females.

Perhaps that's because many of these 'civilized' societies have been infuenced by European/American/Western culture, technologies and ideas?
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Old 2007-03-08, 07:07
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quote:Originally posted by Whore of God:

Perhaps that's because many of these 'civilized' societies have been infuenced by European/American/Western culture, technologies and ideas?

Males are inherently dominant.
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Old 2007-03-08, 07:08
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I tend to think most girls are smarter then me then i whoop their along with everyone elses arses in the assessment tests and bask in the compliments until people think im stupid again which is relatively quickly since im a druggie and everyone knows it gotta love stereotypes.
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Old 2007-03-08, 07:10
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My girlfriend is smart, educated and highly opinionated.

She'll say "Fuck you, I know I'm right. If you disagree with me you're wrong". There are girls out there that kick extraordinary amounts of ass.

FUCK YOU, OKAY?
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:05
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quote:Originally posted by arquin:

My girlfriend is smart, educated and highly opinionated.

She'll say "Fuck you, I know I'm right. If you disagree with me you're wrong". There are girls out there that kick extraordinary amounts of ass.

FUCK YOU, OKAY?

Thing is your more likely to win the lottery after getting struck by lightening in a sharks mouth then find one who is actually smarter and hotter and more likeable then the dumb ones.

just my opinion though.
 #23 
Old 2007-03-08, 09:22
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High school girls.
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:26
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quote:Originally posted by TehWTF:

I'm a girl and I've experienced this from both sexes, but mostly women. I think, with the media and the way women are commonly treated as objects it becomes easy for them to just give up on sounding the least it intelligent. Because a lot of the "popular" girls aren't that smart (they pay too much attention to friends, sexual stuff and drugs to study mostly) some girls think that's how you get people to like you and follow suit. I personally loath the attitude, after trying it out for a little while in 7th grade when I had no idea WHAT guys want.

edit: hi brian



I think that whole 'dumb, ditzy woman' phase is ending. has been for a while. that used to be the stereotype: strong, dominant man knows better than the ditzy, confused woman...always.

but if you look at pop. media (tv, movies, commercials), there is a very different idea being marketed to the masses. its almost opposite to the stereotype described above; the man is usually shown as almost a primitive creature, a doofus who continuously screws things up in a commical way...only to be bailed out by his watchful woman, who is portrayed as the 'more evolved/refined' (for lack of a better description) creature....she laughs off his childish/immature mistakes,etc and corrects it....how cute. pop culture is showing man as an imbecile incapable of thriving in society without a strong, guiding woman behind him to correct his errors.

But to answer the question posed in the thread title.... yes, that one girl really is that dumb. It seems to me kids these days are getting dumber and dumber. seen the movie 'idiocracy'? Science fiction eventually becomes science fact, given enough time.
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:28
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quote:Originally posted by Whore of God:

Perhaps that's because many of these 'civilized' societies have been infuenced by European/American/Western culture, technologies and ideas?

Thousands of years before European contact was even made with other parts of the world they already had extremely patriarchal societies. You think patriarchy is a European invention? Have you never read an iota on Chinese culture? Or what about traditional tribal African culture? You think the men and women were all fantastically equal and thought the same of each other until the Europeans showed up? I don't fucking think so.
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:33
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quote:Originally posted by silverballs:

Thing is your more likely to win the lottery after getting struck by lightening in a sharks mouth then find one who is actually smarter and hotter and more likeable then the dumb ones.

just my opinion though.

Your opinion is worthless. Because I'm an unlucky mother fucker and I found one of those girls.
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:41
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quote:Originally posted by Ford Prefect:

I had to explain what monogamous meant to my last girlfriend.

That left me a little uneasy.

-F☺rd

Really? I can't imagine why. /sarcasm

Ouch. Thats a danger sign if I've ever seen one. Right up there with "I've never had a monogamous relationship" in fact.
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Old 2007-03-08, 09:55
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quote:Originally posted by arquin:

Your opinion is worthless. Because I'm an unlucky mother fucker and I found one of those girls.

No all your luck was wasted on her.

muwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Old 2007-03-08, 11:14
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quote:Originally posted by TehWTF:

I'm a girl and I've experienced this from both sexes, but mostly women. I think, with the media and the way women are commonly treated as objects it becomes easy for them to just give up on sounding the least it intelligent. Because a lot of the "popular" girls aren't that smart (they pay too much attention to friends, sexual stuff and drugs to study mostly) some girls think that's how you get people to like you and follow suit. I personally loath the attitude, after trying it out for a little while in 7th grade when I had no idea WHAT guys want.

edit: hi brian



Women like you are the worst kind of double-standard supporter. If a man is stupid, he's an idiot. If a woman is stupid, society made her that way.

Sexism is just an excuse for failing.

[This message has been edited by Garrett (edited 03-08-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-08, 12:01
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quote:Originally posted by silverballs:

No all your luck was wasted on her.

Good point. Now I'm going to go get hammered. Damn you and your realizations.
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Old 2007-03-08, 21:32
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THeres a girl in my Food and Nutrition class who is dumber than a bag of rocks. One class we were discussing potlucks:

Her: What's a potluck?

Her Friend: We had one at your house once, where everyone brings food, remember?

Her: *pause*...you mean dinner?

It is seriously embarassing to be in her presence. In alot of cases girls really are that dumb. I'm ok with that though because next to them I look like Stephen Hawking.

[This message has been edited by Silverfuck (edited 03-08-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-08, 21:56
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They aren't stupid, they're just young, and whoever said it's just the popular girls is sadly wrong.

A LOT of middle/high school even onto college, girls are just to preoccupied with how they look, their reputation, what they're wearing? Why? Because from a very young age we're taught that our attractiveness is constantly being judged. We have to e sexy, but not too sexy otherwise we're a "whore".

But I digress, it's a matter of priorities. Where I come from, the hot girls are smart as hell, well book smart. And I don't think it's an exception, nor do I think girls being stupid is the rule.

Their brains are capable of understanding, computing, what have you, they choose (without really knowing their making that choice) to focus on other things like make-up techniques and boyfriend schedules.

What I'm saying is, girls who aren't too concerned with the way other people perceive them are the one's whose mental space is clear for cooler things like astronomy and really good jam bands.
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Old 2007-03-08, 22:32
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Around here most of the girls fit the "moron" category. Even in college, they're EVERYWHERE. Sooo, so ditzy. I haven't a clue how some of these people manage to put their socks on in the morning, let alone how the hell they made it out of high school.

I had to do this group project for one of my classes with 3 other girls. After we finished discussing the project we just sat around and talked for a while. And about what? Makeup, sex, hair, clothes and boys. I KID YOU NOT. Honestly, I don't need intimate details on how obsessed you are with your boyfriend's penis, or what color eye shadow makes your ass look big.

Bah. But I digress. Boys are no better. Most of my boyfriends guy friends can't carry on a conversation beyond cars or hockey and football. Boys aren't ditzy though, so they win. Ditzy girls inspire deathly rage in me. I may be a lot of things, including bitchy, clumsy, crazy, and the messiest eater EVER, but the day I become ditzy is the day I'll kill myself.
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Old 2007-03-08, 22:53
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quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

... or what color eye shadow makes your ass look big.

I laughed.

Eh...there's a time and a place for everything. Even ditzyness.

edit:

Just as a sidenote. I used to hang out with a group of well educated people, but even they had time for nonsense talk. Sometimes, you just have to turn it off.

I do miss them so.

[This message has been edited by oc6 (edited 03-08-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-08, 23:08
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quote:Originally posted by oc6:

I laughed.

Eh...there's a time and a place for everything. Even ditzyness.

edit:

Just as a sidenote. I used to hang out with a group of well educated people, but even they had time for nonsense talk. Sometimes, you just have to turn it off.

I do miss them so.





There's always time for silly talk. But not all the time. All the time is tooooooooooooo much. All work and no play makes for a sad panda, but all play and no work makes for stupid one. I sure as hell don't want a stupid panda.
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Old 2007-03-08, 23:14
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I know. I miss my friends so much.

Some day a trip to California is in order.
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Old 2007-03-09, 00:08
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I HATE stupid women. I despise stupid men, but with women, stupidity usually comes with a shrill voice, obesity, narcissism, irrationality, smoking, drinking, and a host of other negative qualities. My school is plagued with IQ deprived whores who lack neither male partnership or conceitedness. They don't even have social decency, like shutting up when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, or not being opinionated on subjects for which they need an explanation before they can even begin to comprehend the issues associated with said subject.

People like that, male and female alike, should be allowed to copulate without several condoms and a mouthful of birth control pills.
 #38 
Old 2007-03-09, 00:43
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Its not just girls.

you'll find 90% of people are idiots who find the idea of being wrong and learning somehow repulsive

just zone out when they talk and say shit about how sometimes you think about deep stuff and you really care about stuff and that movie made you cry,

then masturbate onto/into them

pwn +1
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Old 2007-03-09, 00:51
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quote:Originally posted by ThePrince:

ditsyness

*ditziness or ditsiness.

:P

And for this matter, "intelligence" is a relative thing. I've been repeatedly called stupid by girls who speak in AOL-speak (eg "LiiFeZ tOo ShOrT.. SoO kiiZZ sLoWly, LaUgH iNsAnEly, LoVe TrUeLy... And fOrGiiVe QuiCkLy") and can't do basic math and think a statement about the way relationships "should be" is "deep" - probably because I'm often inconsiderate and miss important social cues. I despise these people and they despise me, and we each think the other is a fucking retard.

[This message has been edited by pianoSpleen (edited 03-09-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-09, 00:57
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it's not a girl thing, it's an idiot thing.

some people are raised right some aren't. and it's not the parent's fault if they are raised wrong.

it's just a random affliction.

it still pisses me off though.

~burntoffering.
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Old 2007-03-09, 01:00
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Girls are pretty stupid, not necessarily in the acedemic sense but when it comes to decision making and common sense. I have no idea why.

Well, I know that they suck at decision making because they decide things based purely off of emotions with little logic, but as far as common sense and book smarts, I have no idea.
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Old 2007-03-09, 01:09
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Girls don't want to seem smart. Smart girls don't last in relationships or marriages as long because they can be independant. When a girl is stupid, she's usually dependant on the guy, and the relationship lasts longer. Atleast in one where they live in the same house.
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Old 2007-03-09, 01:25
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I've sadly noticed this lately as well. I had to explain to about 5 people what "procrastinate" meant, and I'm in fucking high school. Granted, it was girls and guys, so maybe it just affects most people, I dunno.
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Old 2007-03-09, 02:35
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The gene pool is fucked up because stupid people are breeding more.
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Old 2007-03-09, 02:44
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quote:Originally posted by shill:

The gene pool is fucked up because stupid people are breeding more.

Bingo.
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Old 2007-03-09, 02:57
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quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

Girls make me sad.

im sorry
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:01
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quote:Originally posted by I AM THE ANTICHRIST:

I HATE stupid women. I despise stupid men, but with women, stupidity usually comes with a shrill voice, obesity, narcissism, irrationality, smoking, drinking, and a host of other negative qualities.

haha, that just reminded me of this girl in my history of texas class... she has all of those qualities, except for the drinking and smoking; i'm not sure about those two.i seriously don't understand how she graduated from high school.

this girl is at least a sophomore in college, and when we were talking about the iberian peninsula (aka-spain), she goes 'oh, in new orleans?'

this past week, the teacher handed out our mid-term review and she looked at it and went 'so, are we going to be having a mid-term for this class?'

i'll try to think of some more stupid stuff she's said. but right now i'm going to see 300. fuck yea.
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:04
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quote:Originally posted by silverballs:

Thing is your more likely to win the lottery after getting struck by lightening in a sharks mouth then find one who is actually smarter and hotter and more likeable then the dumb ones.

just my opinion though.

I found one too. Does that make me special? She's probably fucking smarter than I am, but she's gorgeous, a ton of fun and a little on the slutty side, but that's how I like them anyway. Given the choice between a prude and a slut, all other things being equal, I'd take the slut.
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:22
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quote:Originally said by Timothy Leary:

Women who seek to be equal to men lack ambition

[This message has been edited by SydMorrison (edited 03-09-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:35
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quote:Originally posted by xilikeeggs0:

my history of texas class...

HISTORY OF TEXAS IS A CLASS?!?!

I now completely understand why the education system in the United States is failing.
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:37
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quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

HISTORY OF TEXAS IS A CLASS?!?!

I now completely understand why the education system in the United States is failing.

HAHAHAHAHA! Fuck Texas...
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:47
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Pretending. Especially during this day and age, girls know as much as guys. They just pretend not to. When they do this, men and women fall into their traditional places. Men take the lead and women follow. By doing this, girls have an out when things go horribly wrong. Since the guy is the one leading and all.

I don't buy that girls just placed self imagery over knowledge. All you have to do is hear/look at something and pay attention to it, to have it stick in your head. Everyone is capable of this. There is no way to avoid it. By this need we have to bring equality to all peoples, girls are exposed to EVERYTHING guys are. They have brains just like guys do. They can listen and watch like guys do. There is no fucking way they can't learn as guys do.

[This message has been edited by postdiluvium (edited 03-09-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-09, 03:52
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quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

Pretending. Especially during this day and age, girls know as much as guys. They just pretend not to. When they do this, men and women fall into their traditional places. Men take the lead and women follow. By doing this, girls have an out when things go horribly wrong. Since the guy is the one leading and all.

I don't buy that girls just placed self imagery over knowledge. All you have to do is hear/look at something and pay attention to it, to have it stick in your head. Everyone is capable of this. There is no way to avoid it. By this need we have to bring equality to all peoples, girls are exposed to EVERYTHINGS guys are. They have brains just like guys do. They can listen and watch like guys do. There is no fucking way they can't learn as guys do.

Heh. You've never tried to teach a girl how to change a tire have you? And I bet a girl has never tried to teach you the difference between foundation and concealer. There are some things that men are inherently good at and women can't do for the life of them, and vice versa. Sure, every once in a while you meet a girl who can have a 2 hour conversation about something like engines, but more often, "omg I found THE NICEST shoes today!!!!" is a more female topic of choice.
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:01
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quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

Heh. You've never tried to teach a girl how to change a tire have you? And I bet a girl has never tried to teach you the difference between foundation and concealer. There are some things that men are inherently good at and women can't do for the life of them, and vice versa. Sure, every once in a while you meet a girl who can have a 2 hour conversation about something like engines, but more often, "omg I found THE NICEST shoes today!!!!" is a more female topic of choice.



I call bullshit. If a girl can learn how to tie her shoes, she can learn how to change a tire. But changing a tire is a physical task. Of course a girl is going to get the hell out of that task by saying "I don't understand. All that car stuff is for men to do." Shit I could just easily go half ass on dishwashing and say "I don't know how to wash dishes correctly because my mom used to do that and it seems to be more of a woman thing." But that of course would be utter bullshit.

If I cared enough, a girl could teach me anything. As a girl can be taught anything. Even about makeup. It's not like men used to run the makeup industry anyways, right?
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:03
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this thread angers me
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Old 2007-03-10, 09:27
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i met a girl one who didnt know what a carbomb was. hot as fuck though.
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Old 2007-03-10, 09:54
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I'd rather not have a lasting relationship and be smart than be a dumb bitch.

As for the tire thing, I suppose I COULD learn... but it really, really doesn't interest me. I'll just buy my friends pizza if they do it for me.

I'm not saying I'm really smart or anything special, really... I'm just not a complete idiot and I have things to talk about besides makeup, shoes, and clothes.
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Old 2007-03-10, 12:13
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quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

Around here most of the girls fit the "moron" category. Even in college, they're EVERYWHERE. Sooo, so ditzy. I haven't a clue how some of these people manage to put their socks on in the morning, let alone how the hell they made it out of high school.

I had to do this group project for one of my classes with 3 other girls. After we finished discussing the project we just sat around and talked for a while. And about what? Makeup, sex, hair, clothes and boys. I KID YOU NOT. Honestly, I don't need intimate details on how obsessed you are with your boyfriend's penis, or what color eye shadow makes your ass look big.

Bah. But I digress. Boys are no better. Most of my boyfriends guy friends can't carry on a conversation beyond cars or hockey and football. Boys aren't ditzy though, so they win. Ditzy girls inspire deathly rage in me. I may be a lot of things, including bitchy, clumsy, crazy, and the messiest eater EVER, but the day I become ditzy is the day I'll kill myself.

I don't see why people class talking about clothes and stuff to be ditzy? What's wrong with talking about an interest? Its the same as people who sit around and talk about music, or TV shows.

I dunno, your post described one of my friends a lot, and the type of conversations we have together. We sit and talk about fashion and clothes, shoes, makeup for hours on end - for the simple fact that that is our interest (and not to mention a lot of what look into in university together). Does that make me a ditzy bitch? That same girl I can have a full on art historical debate with, and is that where you choose to call us something else (say, pseudo-intellectuals?)
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Old 2007-03-10, 12:23
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I've been amazed by the stupidity of some girls. I don't think they act like that on purpose, that's what makes it even worse.

On the other hand, some girls I know are really smart.
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Old 2007-03-10, 12:28
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quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

If a girl can learn how to tie her shoes, she can learn how to change a tire.

You bet ya!

You wouldn't believe how many tires I've changed in my lifetime. They taught that in drivers ed. The biggest problem is getting those damn lug bolts loosened. So sometimes that does take a man. Lifting the tires is easy compared to that.

Or....the girl is wearing a dress and heels and doesn't want to get herself all disheveled so she'll ask a man for help. Normally though, it's offered without asking in such circumstances.



quote:Originally posted by postdiluvium:

If I cared enough, a girl could teach me anything. As a girl can be taught anything.

I concur. If a person has a real interest, they can learn anything.



[This message has been edited by oc6 (edited 03-10-2007).]
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Old 2007-03-10, 12:54
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It's actually quite wierd because I'm doing an investigation for 30% of my final grade at the moment for the psychology course I'm doing.

Introduction:



The issue of gender and intelligence is a very controversial and hotly debated topic. Although there have been investigations in the past that have tried to prove otherwise, the general consensus of the psychological community is that there are no great differences in cognitive ability between males and females apart from a wider range of Intelligence Quotients (I.Q) in males.

Perhaps more important, and more insightful into out society is how males and females see themselves in terms of their own estimated intelligence. In past studies (Beloff, 1992; Bennet, 1996) a consistent trend has been visible, namely that males generally self-estimate themselves higher than women estimate themselves. But when participants were questioned about the individual components of intelligence ( problem solving, abstract thought, comprehending ideas and concepts etc.) there was no marked difference in self estimation. Between the genders. This difference indicates that intelligence in a broad sense is a trait associated with males.

This pre-conception is not confined to the individuals self estimation but extends to estimation of other’s intelligence. Past studies such as Hogan (1978) and Higgins (1987) have consistently shown that when participants were asked to estimate their parents I.Q the vast majority estimated their father’s to be higher than their mother’s.

To put this into context, we must first define what is meant by the term “intelligence” and thus what an “intelligence quotient” is actually a measure of. The idea of what exactly intelligence is still debated but is loosely accepted to be the ability to understand the relationships between things and apply this to new circumstances. The ability to do so is split into individual components such as reasoning, planning, problem solving, comprehension of concepts and abstract thought and the ability to learn new things. Psychometric testing (intelligence testing) can be used as a tool to measure I.Q. These tests are designed to test an individuals proficiency in each of the component parts of intelligence, and comprises of puzzles and tasks such as questions about shapes to test spatial reasoning for example or small memory tasks to test short term memory. This is generally accepted as a sound measurement of intelligence.

To find out more about gender and self estimated I.Q we must also look into “self concept” , which is an individuals perception of their identity and self estimated ability in relation to others around themselves. One of the most influential researchers to investigate the self concepts was Carl Rogers (1947), he believed that the self is the core of the human personality and therefore that the self was a product of relationships between people. He also believed that that there is a basic human need for positive encouragement which encourages peoples tendency towards self actualisation (Purkey & Schmidt, 1987) This supports the view that people and their sense of self is influenced by conditional positive regard and interpersonal relationships, so t why is it that females estimate themselves lower than males in intelligence?

There must be something that affects females this way, the trend is even visible in young children. Raty, Kiisken, Kasanen and Nykky (2004) found in their study that children in the U.S.A as young as 2nd Grade perceived intelligence as a male trait. In this study children in 2nd, 4th and 6th grade were asked to name the pupil in their class who they thought was the best at that particular subject. When the 4th grade class were asked about who was the best at maths the boys consistently named only other boys and the majority of girls named only boys even though statistically boys and girls were equally matched in their test grades. This trend was not visible in the second grade, which shows there must be something in that children observe to make them associate intelligence with males at such a tender age.

Hogan (1978) argued that perceived gender differences in intelligence is due to females being “socially rewarded” by denying equality with males. This would encourage males to believe they are superior while at the same time giving girls the idea that they are inferior to the male sex, which could account for the trend of under estimation in females. But the majority of these studies were performed quite a few years ago and society has changed significantly since then. Women have come a long way in terms of rights and societies view towards a women’s role in society has also changed significantly post second wave feminism.

Therefore the aim of this investigation is too see whether the difference between genders in self estimated I.Q is still prevalent today. The experimental hypothesis for this investigation is that when asked to estimate their own I.Q a higher proportion of males will estimate themselves above average intelligence than females. .The null hypothesis for this investigation is therefore that there will be no significant difference between the average self estimated I.Q of males and females.



Results:

The average self estimated I.Q for each gender was:

Males: 123

Females: 106
 
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