Last year I came across a woman named _____. She seems like a nice person, but she acted like a tramp around guys. I would see her flirting, hugging, and rubbing her nose and body against other guys. She never did kiss them, though. So, I can't consider her a full tramp.

At the time, however, I've considered a tramp a person who flirted and messed with multiple people while never sticking to one person.

Now, I didn't like her at all. When she asked my name, I didn't give it. I called myself God and whatnot. When she came next to me to shake my hand, I shut her down and told her to go away.

However, there was one thing I wanted to clear up: I wanted to find out if she was a tramp or not. Therefore, I decided to manipulate her and twist her.

I don't use my powers for evil that often. I try not to be sadistic and evil, but I'm getting bored with all the power I've been accumulating lately. It's time for me to destroy people.

Now, maybe I'm a psychopath on a power trip, but oh damn well.

I decided to befriend her. It was going to be a slow process, but I figured I could do it. It takes time to manipulate and twist people, so I was willing to spend a couple of months doing this.

First off, I decided I needed to reverse the unkind attitude I impressed upon her. The first thing to remember is impression management. This theory says when you meet someone, they start to build a memory of you. This memory attached makes new information and creates a visual of who you are mentally and physically.



She thought I was a jerk at first, but at least she saw me as a witty/funny jerk. Therefore, all I needed to do was show more compassion and kindness. I did so by acting shy around her. I would use my old-self, which is my shy and kind personality, to confuse her into thinking I liked her. After having experiences with sociopathic tramps, I've learned they like to twist sweet, innocent people. I decided to bait her with that personality of mine.

Now, this is where you need to wonder why I'm doing these things. Here's how it works: The true sociopath will try to figure out my personality or who I am by adding the pieces together.

1) I was witty

2) I was shy

3) I acted bitter after seeing her be trampy with other guys (an act of jealousy)

4) I became kind

5) After she showed me more attention, I cared more about her

Now, she can think I was jealous of other people and wanted her to myself. A true sociopathic woman laughs at that but plays along. Matter of fact, she wants to play me.

Too bad I've had experience with sociopathic women. Otherwise, I would have failed.

I wanted her to think I was bitter because I couldn't express how I felt for her. And I wanted her to think I warmed up to her with time, thus becoming more kind.

She fell right into that trap.

It's called human programming, or "social engineering."

Originally, I was bitter toward her. But after a while, I wanted to manipulate her. Therefore, I had to think about how she would interpret new information about me. I decided to tailor the new information to fit together in her mind. I decided to make my bitterness seem like a child-like jealousy. It worked wonders.

From there, I started to talking to her more. I came up to her, and I started to try and make conversation. However, she was a busy person. She typically had to go to class. I acted mature but calm at that moment.

I acted stoic, disappoint, and mature. I said, "Well, then I'll be open.... Do you think I could get your number?"

She acted happy about the fact I asked for her number. She gave it to me and told me which ones to call: her home at day; her cell at night.

From there, things went pretty well. We talked on the phone. We started becoming more personal, and we started talking longer.

During the conversations, I tried to act like myself, as if she was not a tramp. I treated her like a normal person. I decided to use non-conflict conversation and used Taoist ideology to make sure things went smooth.

Eventually she opened up to me. I was in the college one day as she was walking around. I came up to her and started talking. I eventually walked her to her car.

As we were walking to her car, she somewhat slowed down in certain spots. It seemed as though she didn't want me to know which car was hers. However, as we were walking I said, "What's up? Are you slowing down and stopping to be surreptitious? Trying to throw me off so I don't find out which car you drive?"

"Well, I was thinking about that," she said as she looked at me as though I read her mind, "but oh well."

We walked to her car, and I told her, "Last time I was talking to you I had this sudden urge to hug you. I never get that, so it was weird. Do you think i could give you a hug?" She said, "Oh, I didn't think you were that kind of person." And we both had a nice hug.

It wasn't my first hug, so I didn't care anymore. bwahahaha.

We talked more on the phone, and things kept going well. We started talking more, and I kept up the non-conflict bullshit.

After a while, she started opening up to me. She asked me about my family life, and I said it was full of abuse from family and peers. We talked about relationship, love life, and so forth. I kept feeding her false information.

I fed her false information in a unique way. I've talked to various people throughout life. I've learned their mindset from growing up certain ways, and I've learned how they have dealt with relationships. I have the ability to recall emotions, beliefs, values, and more.

I relayed the life of others to her, but I never exposed my own life; I made their lives into mine. I took facts and details and used them as if I lived through those experiences. However, I did help people through those experiences. I did help people obtain new experiences. In a way, these people and I experienced their life together. That's why I'm part of their experiences. But for her, I stole their life experiences and used them as my own.

She told me about dating a guy named ****** in the past. I actually know this guy from school, and she knows I've met him multiple times. She told me about how he would grope her and so forth. She liked the sexual pleasure she received from him while she was dating her boyfriend at the time. Her boyfriend dumped her, so she decided to date ******. However, from what she told me, she thinks he's a psychopath. She feels he doesn't know right from wrong.

She dated him because she was lonely and she wanted someone to be with.

After a while, she finally admitted something:

She talked about how she has been dating someone for three years, but she likes playing with other guys. She liked their attention and knowing they want her but can't have her. However, she feels lonely a good amount of the time.

Once she admitted this, I decided to drop her.

Information obtained. Done deal. She is trashy.

I could add more details, examples, and facts; but I just wanted to give the gist of it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N_18uNPFoGc

[This message has been edited by Genecks (edited 03-05-2007).]

Normally I would commend you for being so in control, but how much time did you waste on this stupid whore? Just go with your gut and forget the tramps, and focus your energy on the lovely ones.

Since when is manipulating whores some great feat?

You sound like a pretentious prick.

I didn't waste that much time actually. Perhaps two days in total. (An hour here and there.) I simply let time pass in between the periods. This allowed her to think things through, while I stuck with my plan.

Sure, a lot of time passed; but I didn't 'waste' a lot of time. I simply did not use the passing time that quickly. If I used the passing time quickly, she would have thought I moved quickly.

I can't give that appearance, no sir.

quote:Originally posted by Area Code 614:

Since when is manipulating whores some great feat?



It's not. But getting one that is willing to manipulate others, while never admitting it, is a great feat. She stopped manipulating to tell the truth.

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Ok, but somebody with such an articulate knowledge of how people work...you should be a hostage negotiator or something, not wasting your time with pussy you don't want.

Oh, but it is her I want; but not really. Now, the only trick is to see how much I can manipulate her. I've done well so far, but I want to find out how much more I can twist her.

I want to see if I can get her to do more than flirt and give hugs. I want to make her my puppet.

She may seem like a whore, but she is more of a flirt. She has someone she has been with for three years. Now the real question is how devoted she is to him.

She's 21-years-old, soon to be 22; but I've had a lot of relationship experience, which is a lot more than her.



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quote:Originally posted by Rykoshet:

Normally I would commend you for being so in control, but how much time did you waste on this stupid whore? Just go with your gut and forget the tramps, and focus your energy on the lovely ones.

Lol, I guess you didn't read the part abou thim being on a power trip. It isn't the fact that he was wasting his time, basically he was honing his skills. With this girl it took him say 3 months to enter that comfort zone. With another girl it might take him 1 1/2 months.

I think the goal here is not to accuse him of being pretentious, but to encourage him by making him push his skills. What is the quickest you think you could actually have a girl be that comfortable with you?

Under a month and I would be impressed, two weeks and I would consider you untouchable. Good read, and hopefully you will share more adventures of yours with us.

I can easily do it within two weeks. Of course, the girl cannot be a tramp or deviant one.

Deviant ones take a hell-a-lot of time. The "nice" ones don't take that much time.

The primary goal here was to get her to admit she was a tramp.

Tramps are quick thinkers. Of course, I've got a bit of eidetic memory, so it seems as time never passes for me. Other people forget bits of information over time. That was the goal in letting time pass.

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quote:Originally posted by Johnny D:

You sound like a pretentious prick.

Yeah, seriously. I stopped when I heard about your "powers".

What the fuck was up with that link? Orochimaru has nothing to do with trampy chicks in real life. He is merely an evil ninja. Wtf??

It's been a while since I've read such a load of shit.

Call me stupid, simple whatever.. but what exactly are you trying to gain?

What are you talking about relationship experience.. you mentioned in your first post something like "It wasn't my first hug"

What the hell? Is getting a hug a big thing to you so that you can manipulate or something? You sound like one big emo kid with your anime.

I'm not wasting my time any more.

If you can't make the connection to Orochimaru and manipulation of people as puppets, then you need to get the fuck off the internet.

Geneck: It wasn't a challenge to you, I am not really interested in how quickly you can manipulate people, because how does that help me? It doesn't, I was simply interested if you could perform the same task under a more strenuous time frame.

resplendent! *does the evil fingertip thing*

i wonder if anybody will get the reference here.. haha.. but thats the picture i get..

hey this was somewhat interesting i suppose.. you should try this shit on older virgins or the one bad relationship types.. theyre gonna be much harder than tramps or other social people.. you have a crazy outlook but good luck anyway haha..

Orochimaru and puppets; you got it.

Yes, but that depends on how well I know my audience, which is the girl I'm trying to manipulate or want to date.

Right now I've got a few women interested in me. One girl I've known for a long time. The other girl I've known a couple of weeks.

Girl 1 has undressed herself for me, masturbated for me, and etc. etc.

She is not a tramp. She's simply sexual. Very loving and caring. I've known her a couple of years. But I don't want to date her.

Girl 2 is sweet and innocent. She doesn't have a lot of relationship experience, and she wants a guy who wants her. Therefore, as long as I seem like I want her, she wants me. She's submissive and a lot more. It's easy to toy with her; but I'm wanting her as a girlfriend, not a toy.

I want the sweet girl over the sexual girl.

It all comes down to understanding the psychology of people. If person doesn't have a decent grasp of interpersonal relationships, it's going to be hell to toy with someone.

I don't deal with tramps. I really don't. I knew she was a tramp. I've dated tramps. I've dated women who have cheated on me three times. I have plenty of experience dealing with bullshit. But the thing I wanted this time was information. I wanted the person to admit something without becoming emotional, caring, etc.

Typically if a person becomes emotional and whatnot, it makes the person hurt to find out something. That's what she wanted all the guys to feel: pain from not being able to have her.

They would feel that pain after finding out she was a tramp. She set up everything so it would be just that way: people would find out and be hurt. She would keep it secret.

Sure, many women are touchy-feely; but some are not really tramps. It's hard to see through the mist. That was the point of what I did: to see through the mist and find the truth.

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Lol, find the truth? You state that you knew she was a tramp and that the truth was her self-admittance of what you already knew.

Are you going to manipulate a monkey into confessing that it is a monkey next? I see how you might find it fun to play with women's emotions like you do. To realize that it is easy to maniuplate people, even without an understanding of psychology it can be accomplished quickly.

Your goals seems pretty bleek to me. Power isn't what you are exhibiting. Trying to outline what men have been doing for centuries and applying it as if you are a scientific god is hilarious.

It's not like most women aren't already so insecure and easily manipulated that I wouldn't need some meticulous Hannibal Lecter bullshit to get some tramp to feel comfortable hugging me.

And your ability to "recall emotions, beliefs, values, and more"?

I really hope you made this all up, and that you don't actually go about thinking you're some cerebral mastermind.

^Oh, but I think he does. Just by referencing an Anime character like Orochimaru and trying to say that you exhibit any of his qualities is down right pathetic.

He is a ninja with supernatural powers...you are just some fucking guy on the internet boasting about hugs.

I'm not impressed. Don't get me wrong, manipulating and destroying people is great and should be commended, but what exactly did you do?

You didn't emotionally crush this girl, you didn't get sex, you didn't get her humiliated or tainted, etc.

The only thing you got her to do was use you like her emotional tampon, and that is it. In all honesty, everything probably went down like this, except you genuinely were interested in her and were then placed in the "nice guy" category so she told you all this shit she would never admit to someone she was romantically interested in, and you realized it so you wrote this pretentious rant trying to play yourself off as some mastermind of the highest order instead of some poor emo kid who just got his heart ripped out by a whore.

Too pretentious, didn't read.

Much too long/didn't read.

F-

quote:Originally posted by Byss:



The only thing you got her to do was use you like her emotional tampon, and that is it. In all honesty, everything probably went down like this, except you genuinely were interested in her and were then placed in the "nice guy" category so she told you all this shit she would never admit to someone she was romantically interested in, and you realized it so you wrote this pretentious rant trying to play yourself off as some mastermind of the highest order instead of some poor emo kid who just got his heart ripped out by a whore.

I'd say so.

Heres are two far better solutions to the situation:

1) Go up to her with a sincere look on your face and out of the blue ask 'are you a tramp?' Hilarity ensues.

2) ask someone who knows her 'is she a tramp'. Information ensues.

or do both, thus getting you're original info, plus hilarity, plus its not a waste of effort.

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Wow I can't believe you actually spent so much time with her. I might do that for like a few days but not for that long lol.

You think you're so much more intelligent than you are. All you have is a fair understanding of people and a good level of empathy. There are so many people like you. You see yourself as some kind of all-powerful elite puppetmaster controlling everybody around you and trapping them in your subtle web of manipulation and deceit. You're actually just slightly smarter than the average person with a good eye for detail. And you're a pretentious prick about it, like so many other people who go down the same road as you.

People like you piss me off.

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For fucks sake, you have no 'power', I agree wholeheartedly with what Mr. Happy says. You're not big, and you're not clever. Just grow up and make friends the normal way.

quote:Originally posted by Johnny D:

You sound like a pretentious prick.

That pretty much sums it up.

And how fucking prude to you have to be to condemn someone for being a tramp when they dont even kiss boys? Jesus christ.

Mr.Happy doesn't sound so happy.

I wouldn't of used the word tramp, I would of used the word tease. So now you got her to admit to something that she isn't doing. Doesn't kiss guys, only hugs them? And she is a tramp? Where the fuck do you live that a girl who teases guys with hugs is considered a tramp and not a tease?

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Yeah, seriously. I stopped when I heard about your "powers".

Anybody can do that shit if they feel like being an asshole

quote:Originally posted by Genecks:

Oh, but it is her I want; but not really. Now, the only trick is to see how much I can manipulate her. I've done well so far, but I want to find out how much more I can twist her.

I want to see if I can get her to do more than flirt and give hugs. I want to make her my puppet.

She may seem like a whore, but she is more of a flirt. She has someone she has been with for three years. Now the real question is how devoted she is to him.

She's 21-years-old, soon to be 22; but I've had a lot of relationship experience, which is a lot more than her.



Seems to me that you need to fix your own insecurities before any useful social engineering will take place.

quote:Originally posted by Mr.Happy:

wires wants me to make sweet love to her :O



quote:Originally posted by wires:

I agree wholeheartedly with what Mr. Happy says.

:O:O:O

ITS ALL OUT NOW!

You really are a pretentious twat, aren't you?

quote:Originally posted by bloodenangel:

You really are a pretentious twat, aren't you?

It's called a 12 year old lying on the internet because he is INSECURE!

It goes without saying that he has never experienced a proper relationship.

It says a lot about you that you take pride in manipulating weak-minded people. That's no extraordinary feat. Hell, it's not even a feat. You try doing that to someone who isn't a half-wit and you will have your ass handed to you.

quote:Originally posted by m00fire:

:O:O:O

ITS ALL OUT NOW!

Shh you! I'm allowed to agree with him without wanting to sex him!

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

If you can't make the connection to Orochimaru and manipulation of people as puppets, then you need to get the fuck off the internet.

Geneck: It wasn't a challenge to you, I am not really interested in how quickly you can manipulate people, because how does that help me? It doesn't, I was simply interested if you could perform the same task under a more strenuous time frame.

I don't watch anime. There's only a few I find where the animation isn't incredibly lazy.

^I am surprised that you responded so well. So I will retract my statement that you shouldn't be on the internet.

i used to do the same sort of things, just for shits and giggles, but lately i have lost touch with the world, and while my strategies are good, the filler, the actual details are sketchy because i don't enjoy talking...and most tramps are loudmouths so what you just did is the only type of person i have trouble manipulating. well done to you.

I'm not really impressed. It takes you months to befriend her and get her secrets? The fact that you had to repeat "manipulation" and "powers" over and over again throughout the text, as if we needed to be reminded of what you were doing or trying to do shows that you over-think these things and as much as you want to play it off as something you can do with your hands tied behind your back, this is one hell of an accomplishment for you. ANYBODY can manipulate a whore. I don't see anything special in this. and WTF? All you did was get her to reveal she's cheated on her guy. You had to do so much just for that? How is that satisfying at all? You could talk to plenty of people that will admit they've cheated before. You didn't even fuck her. What a joke.



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Man, how can you claim you have powers or even skill when you didn't even get a payoff! Have you seen the movie 'Wedding Crashers'? Well, that is true maniuplation skill. THEY FUCKING GOT SEXED!

You basically talked to her. You may have tried sending out different signals, but really it was just talking. Women like that, they will talk about themselves no matter what persona you use.

Everything I wanted to say has already been said, I think.

A comment about your "powers", several comments about how that really isn't an achievement. Something about you being insecure. Pretentious twat.

I think I'm going to throw in knobhead, because it hasn't been said yet and I think it needs saying .

Jx

When you "social engineer" yourself into a high-powered job and/or fucking a model then you can boast. Until then you're a loser whose developed a detached view of the world because you're akward and/or ugly. And $500 says this tramp was fat.

Tramps are homeless and ride the rails. I was disappointed by your story, as it was not about riding the rails.

False title. This thread lacks action.

quote:Originally posted by samurai_steve:

What the fuck was up with that link? Orochimaru has nothing to do with trampy chicks in real life. He is merely an evil ninja. Wtf??

yeah all the faggot goths at my school have those headbands...stupid fucking anime bullshit

I read the original thread, and I just assumed this girl you liked told you to back off after you freaked her out a bit.

You just changed a couple of key facts....

quote:Originally posted by Byss:



The only thing you got her to do was use you like her emotional tampon, and that is it. In all honesty, everything probably went down like this, except you genuinely were interested in her and were then placed in the "nice guy" category so she told you all this shit she would never admit to someone she was romantically interested in, and you realized it so you wrote this pretentious rant trying to play yourself off as some mastermind of the highest order instead of some poor emo kid who just got his heart ripped out by a whore.

QFT

Jesus. Genecks, By far this has to be the most interesting post I've ever seen here, fuck anyone else what their saying. What you did was absolutely brilliant, to trick another human mind into opening up is one of the hardest things to do, especially a woman talking about her past. I think you've mastered something that other people will only dream of doing.

Yes, I'm joking. I opened this thread thinking that you'd done something spectacular but all you did was disappoint. Your an unintelligent fuck and I hate you with the intensity of a thousand desert sons.

...

You probably could have gotten her attention and friendship just by saying "hi, what's up?" Flirts are generally accepting of people regardless of who/what they are. It's not about "tricking [her] into trusting [you]." To claim that is to admit that you have no real understanding of how people work.

Congratulations!

Manipulation, destroying people? Absolutely fantastic--you completely tore her a new one by getting her to confess to the obvious about herself. And without any consequences, either! How terribly, terribly brutal of you. I only pray that if I meet you in person, you would have the heart to show me some form of clemency. I don't think I could endure your awesome powers.

Can I get a "social engineer" badge if I get you to admit that you're deluded, a pathological liar, and don't really deserve to exist?



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