what would you say i should do to overcome this.. and im not talking when im in classes or closer to them out of similar forced situations.. im talking about when im just walking around i get this feeling often that im being stereotyped somehow.. i guess maybe you girls are really who i should direct this to.. what makes you distrust a guy just for being there even if he aint doing shit in particular. maybe just glancing at you, not even quite checking you out yet.. im not a bad looking guy (dont think) and i dress pretty normal so i dont know.. does my area just suck.. there seems to maybe be some movement of distrust among the females, some girl power no pussy for you thing.. i hate this place.. all i want to do is make a girl feel good and happy, also myself..

im just putting this out there cuz i feel like it not because im feeling desperate, which im not.. im just confused, but rather sure its just my area that sucks really bad.. do i have to be more of a tactically aggressive person rather than just aloof.. i donno but any feedback is welcome.. and no i dont think women are just objects that can and should be played.. but i hate to think i have to "play" them, and thats what it feels like.. why cant we just fuckin trust people until they prove themselves untrustworthy. or are so many people so dumb that they wont be able to figure it out.. i can figure anybody out.. maybe people cant get that i try to wear it all on my sleeve..

once again if you can find any insight or personal experience from this mess please let me know..

i know that "just live your life it will work itself out" thing will pop up but hell ive been doing that and no dice. im tired of not sharing my time with females.. so basically im tired of just living my life.. gotta change something..

also to clarify yes i suppose i have standards that are above average, because average sucks.. i want people that will care for themselves mentally and physically.. i try to do the same..

Have they given you any reason not to trust you? Are you a known player or have you ever cheated on a girl that people would know about? If none of these apply to you, I'd say just a bad area. Maybe you come off as a player or something?

its a large area people have pretty much only seen me around and most dont know who i am.. it could be any number of things.. maybe i come off as a player because i tend to check out all the girls of a group.. i rely on my intuition to see which would be suitable.. maybe they resent being lumped together and not being selected and feeling special..

also im pretty grungy at times i guess.. maybe they think im trying "the bad dude"?.. im just a lazy insomniac that gets up too late sometimes.. and maybe nobody appreciates those ideas here.. a lot of people take this community college as if it were a university.. maybe i would have to keep myself clean cut for all the serious people.. all i know is presenting myself the way i have is not working..

EDIT: also no, nobody knows me.. cept the people that are here with me from HS.. i dont get laid so those things are a non-issue.. unfortunately.. also i may be overestimating my looks these days as i havnt taken real care in them for some time.. i may just look like a grungy loser.. that would be simple enough actually.. i may be giving peoples thought processes too much credit..

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Where do you stand at your school? What groups do you hang with? Are you a loner? Jock? Nerd? Prep? How many friends do you have? Do you have many friends that are girls?

as far as where i stand at my school i dont even know.. its a college anyway that isnt so relevant at least as far as i know. i go to class and i go home cuz i dont like sticking around school when i dont have to.. i suppose as far as my classes go im at least fairly well respected because id say i contribute in somewhat meaningful ways now and then and try to provide unique insights..

also i wouldnt really want to be a liar for anything.. that would take all the substance out for me.. i couldnt really live that way either..

honestly i guess maybe i can figure it out on my own.. but really im just tired of trying so hard when it should be simple and easy to check up on a perceived attraction.. it would also seem that a lot of my college girls are shy and not ready.. or i just make myself an easy target to be profiled as untrustworthy somehow.. i donno.. but i got nothing else.. im just gonna have to start violating the lines that seem to be drawn before me by some girls and test their substance.. ill have to see if i have it in me.. why cant s&a be easy for me.. id like to think im pretty genuine.. this is just aimless whining tho.. theres no sense in any response here.. if you think you can help my cause other than telling me to be fake id love to hear it.. but yeah this may be done..

[This message has been edited by thendoftheline (edited 03-05-2007).]

Maybe you just give off that creepy oompah loompah vibe.



Dont worry. There are lots of girls who cannot sense such things, so you'll be fine.

wow really? it would all be worth it if i had an oompah loompa vibe haha..

ive decided im just gonna start violating all sorts of comfort zones.. you know personal space bubble whatsits.. bam! just gonna step right in those.. raise all sorts of hell.. woo!?