Beanerboys drunken ramble take one.

Aight, first of all, be confident.

It actually does help.

People with low self-esteem are kinda weird to be around.

Oh, and don't be yourself, be your best self!

(waves arms at ceiling, oh mehcy me looowd-ah!)

Now then, conversation.

Social retards assume that conversation is just discussing a topic.

Conversation between friends isn't at all like that, I heard someone call it social vibing and I like that.

Conversation with a group of good friends doesn't really fill a point, but it's enjoyable.

You are socially vibing.

It's not what you talk about, it's how you talk about it.

You'll notice that social tards will (for example) argue.

Don't fucking argue, it serves no point and kills the mood. People with low self-esteem want to prove that they're right, so they argue.

Or if someone tells a funny story and you go 'there's no way that could happen' or 'why ddidnt he just..'

That's not the point of the story, the purpose is to amuse and the proper action is to laugh and optionally tell a story on a topic that can be associated with the first one.

Most outcasts feel that people in groups just talk about retarded stuff like what they did in the weekend or who got drunk or what was on TV.

Sure, it is retarded to some degree, but again, its not really what theyre doing.

Theyre not tlaking to their friends about who got drunk.

Theyre having a good time talking to their friends period.

ill try to clean this up eventually and increase the sense-to-ramble ratio sometime.

but for now, gin!

Edit:

Rhetorical questions is a thing that seems to get to misfits.

Bad:

1- hey, guess how much this jacket costed.

2- (assuming its really high or low since he's mentionng it) 30$?

1- Umm, no. 40$ actually.

Once again the outcast doesn't want to be wrong and tries to get it right.

Good:

1- hey, guess how much this jacket costed.

2- What, like 200$?

1- Nah man only 40$!

2- Riispeckt mah dawg!!

Trying to upstage people is bad vibing.

1- Check out my crazt shirt.

2- Yeah, but that shirt would be nothing in California you know.

What's the point of saying that? What does that add to the conversation?

2- Yeah it's nice

Eureka!

And I'll leave you with this.

Don't speak too fast, it seems as if you think people won't listen if you don't get it out fast enough.

Don't wave your arms too much, it's trying to hard. (I do it all the time, eugh)

And don't laugh at your own jokes.

Why do people do that? Because noone else is laughing yet so to fill the silence they laugh. Wait 10-15s. Sometimes it takes a while for a joke to impact, other times they just suck. If they suck, you can redeem yourself most of time by saying 'yeah that one was terrible'

But don't say it like you're sorry and trying to apologise for being lame.

Oh, and do you know someone who says 'right' after every other sentence?

That person's is saying right where other people should be saying right, to comfort himself in the head.

That's it for today, it all looks very messy now I know, but it's fucking 8:47am here.

Oh! and don't do that ^^

Like if you're having a presentation and you ARE really tired, don't mention it, you come of as seeking their approval and trying to get their forgiveness.

Just go on as usual and people won't care most of the time.

Aight peace.

Edit: found the original site http://www.howtobecooler.com/conversation

Yes i know it's goddamn fucking embarassing to see "howtobecooler" in your browser but c'mon!



[This message has been edited by Bean_Doodle (edited 02-25-2007).]

Thanks for clearing out the "Social vibing" thing.

Thats just fucking stupid.

quote:Originally posted by M a t t Y:

Thats just fucking stupid.

This is very true. I mean some kids are like that and just bitch argue or try to call bullshit on whatever you say. They don't realize that is why they don't get invited to the party but w/e.

** Deuce Omen

quote:Originally posted by Bean_Doodle:



It's not what you talk about, it's how you talk about it.

You'll notice that social tards will (for example) argue.



quote:Originally posted by M a t t Y:

Thats just fucking stupid.

A nice example.

But yea I get what your saying, I like the term Social Vibing.

quote:Originally posted by Icepick Gag Reflex:

A nice example.

But yea I get what your saying, I like the term Social Vibing.



Back at you.

Trying to incite an argument by twisting a comment.

I stated I thought it was stupid, because it is.

I don't hang around with people that I feel I have to basically retard my self down with.

I'd rather be a social recluse then have to pretend. to be a retard day in and day out.

But at the end of the day, I'm not a recluse I have decent friends , I go out, ect.. And I don't have to pretend to be an idiot all fucking day long. Something I had been doing for 2 years before going to college - Which sucked.

Who the fuck said to dumb yourself down? It is very possible to come off as intelligent without being an asshole. Which it is very possibly to socially vibe without dumbing yourself down.

I honestly have no fucking idea what you are even bitching about. Just take the advice you socially retarded bitch!

Yes...I'm wrong..

Because talking about getting drunk and shitty TV is real intelligent conversion.

And, there you go again CarbonB, arguing and insulting with anyone that states an opinion on the board. Now who should take advice?

Fuck off you fat pile of shit.

[This message has been edited by M a t t Y (edited 02-24-2007).]

Of course I simplified it.

I know that most people actually DO have meaningfull conversations but I was going from my own experience as a soctard and I remember sitting quiet most of the time thinking how fucking stupid people are and such fucking stupid things they talk about.

But even when you have a conversation for the actual content of it you're still vibing to some degree.

An example of this is debates in unmotivated classes.

Student A presents case.

Student B present counter-case.

repeat.

When you're discussing say politics or karma you're not doing that are you?

No, you're talking.

Big difference.

quote:Originally posted by M a t t Y:

Yes...I'm wrong..

Because talking about getting drunk and shitty TV is real intelligent conversion.

And, there you go again CarbonB, arguing and insulting with anyone that states an opinion on the board. Now who should take advice?

Fuck off you fat pile of shit.



You're such a fucking loser.

I agree whole-heartedly with CarbonB and the OP. You may be a genius but you can still talk about meaningless stuff and have fun. Even when talking about something intellectual, you don't have to always goddamn argue. Hell, I'm sure doctors and lawyers don't talk about antihistamines and habeus corpus 24/7 with their friends. The thing is, social rejects like yourself always love to talk about politics and hot-button issues which always cause arguments.

Just chill the fuck out and people will like to be around you. That's the point of this thread. It doesn't hurt to joke around often as well.

To OP, this is an invaluable thread, well done. And any toy who says different is going to get their punk ass wrecked by me.

Yes I have some obscure interests and I study law and yes we do sometimes talk about jurisprudence...one thing I will disagree with the Op with though is that talking about "too heavy" stuff. So long as everyone can participate, you know what your talking about and being uppity then hings should be fine

So long as there is no argument, or at least HOSTILE arguments then I think any topic should be okay.



[This message has been edited by don_stracci (edited 02-24-2007).]

Aren't you 15?

Seems like you people don't know the average British socialite now-a-day teenager from my area..

Meh, why'd I expect people on totse to look at something wider.

I apologise for looking at something from my own situation..



[This message has been edited by M a t t Y (edited 02-24-2007).]

quote:Originally posted by M a t t Y:

Seems like you people don't know the average British socialite now-a-day teenager from my area..

Meh, why'd I expect people on totse to look at something wider.

I apologise for looking at something from my own situation.. :rooleyes:



Yeah, I'm sure teenagers from your area are so unique. You fucking dolt.

Heh, I love to argue. It's just no fun when someone says something and everyone agrees with it. Gets the conversation nowhere.

But I do agree that arguing over some unimportant small talk is inappropriate and doesn't make much sense.

quote:Originally posted by MexWanker:

Yeah, I'm sure teenagers from your area are so unique. You fucking dolt.



It wasn't meant like that.

Unique maybe in the sense of the shitty area and how everyone * conforms them selfs into the constant joke of making sexual innuendos and accusing each other of being gay.

With the occasional know it all trying to shout down everyone that states something they disagree with.

I don't find that fun.

And who's trying to argue now? I state something and everyone, as like some people I know, try to shout you down.

*In the sense of the main majority of I guess 'non-socailtards'.

[This message has been edited by M a t t Y (edited 02-24-2007).]

Conversation=social vibing=passing the fucking time

basically talking shit with freinds is more fun then not talking or seriously argueing

am i correct? YES

quote:Originally posted by M a t t Y:

Back at you.

Trying to incite an argument by twisting a comment.



Your only proving my point more buddy. By the way I never twisted your comment, I only quoted what you said, and second I wasnt trying to incite an argument at all. I wasnt the one who said "Thats just fucking stupid" without any detail about why you thought his post was fucking stupid, hence you being a nice example.

Menial accusations wont help you become more socially inclined my friend.

I don't speak when I have nothing to say. However, it seems that the rest of the world feels the need to jabber on about complete rubbish to fill the time.

It may be fine for most to do it because they prefer to avoid silence, and they're welcome to do that if it makes them feel comfortable, so long as they don't involve me - I prefer to save my breath.

There always seem to be other, more important or more engaging topics than those which most people talk about, and when I'm in the company of people with more than a few brain cells I find that I can talk about those instead. If you don't like to talk rubbish, then it is not a question of how to talk, but with whom to talk.

Edited in a couple of lines, spacing.

[This message has been edited by NotOnlyButAlso (edited 02-25-2007).]

updated OP with some obvious stuff thats not so obvious to my main demographic

quote:Originally posted by NotOnlyButAlso:

I don't speak when I have nothing to say. However, it seems that the rest of the world feels the need to jabber on about complete rubbish to fill the time.

It may be fine for most to do it because they prefer to avoid silence, and they're welcome to do that if it makes them feel comfortable, so long as they don't involve me - I prefer to save my breath.

There always seem to be other, more important or more engaging topics than those which most people talk about, and when I'm in the company of people with more than a few brain cells I find that I can talk about those instead. If you don't like to talk rubbish, then it is not a question of how to talk, but with whom to talk.

Edited in a couple of lines, spacing.



Damn you summed that up nicely ofcourse it all depends on what one considers "engaging" does it not?

I must confess I'm Socially handicap..."No bravery in in eyes only sadness"_James Blunt

quote:Originally posted by silverballs:

Damn you summed that up nicely ofcourse it all depends on what one considers "engaging" does it not?

Indeed. Unfortunately I am one of those people who cares more about the issues like events in the Gulf than the fact that Britney Spears has shaved her head. (ZOMG!)

More like, makes me feel fucking stupid. I always argue with people I don't know too well. Over stupid shit too, like jokes that don't make sense. Then these people say I make them feel bad or something and I get nowhere in the making friends department. So thanks for the nice post.

That's a kickass site, I like the authors writing style.

I don't know who's more retarded, the social rejects who have no friends because they can't connect with anyone...

Or the morons who can't keep their mouths shut about the most mundane mind-numbing topics ever, usually under the influence of alcohol.

[This message has been edited by HARDMAN (edited 02-26-2007).]

I like arguing. With close friends it's fun because it's thought provoking and it can degenerate down into screaming and cussing.

"Goddamit you don't even get the point I'm trying to make, I'm saying that if blah blah blah, then blah blah blah you stupid motherfucker!"

"No, I understand perfectly well what your point is, and I agree with it, but you can't rule out blah blah because of blah blah."

With people I don't know well it's usually very different. Arguments can be shaped into persuasions and 'new' ideas.

"I think we should try to blah blah before we blah blah, so that blah blah will go together better."

"Yeh, that's good, and we could even skip blah blah altogether as to make blah blah easier."

I guess not everyone likes to argue.

quote:Originally posted by graphite:



I guess not everyone likes to argue.

I don't mind it but..

There aren't enough people that just like to chill and achieve social-vibing just by being in each others company.

These are real friends.

Yeah, you can bullshit and argue with your actual friends. Not a problem. This is more for aquaintances and conversation.

...but what do you do after the conversation?

Buttseks!

Have a couple shots or tweak and you'll be plenty social

quote:Originally posted by NoMoreWebs:

...but what do you do after the conversation?

butt seks