I was tired after work.

We're having worries about moving into a new place...Money worries, freedoms, etc.

We go out for a drink and the shit hits the fan.

She starts telling me about this house party tonight even though when ahe told me about it a couple days ago it was supposed to be tomorrow. The sudden change in the story rings some alarm bells with me.

I don't begrudge her going out and having fun but it worries me when she's going to be surrounded by drunken little fucks, will be drunk herself and has cheated on me several times in the past.

We argue and shout and fight.

I just try to hold her shoulders down to shut her up and listen to me...I am sitting here with scratches, bruises and a swollen thumb. She has not a mark.

She went over to my mum's last night to get away...I stay home and ponder.

I don't know what to say or do...Part of me sees that it's not fair for me to not let go of past events and trust her. She doesn't need a boyfriend like me...The other part still insists it's her fault for cheating and lying and never shutting up to let me get a fucking word in edgeways.

I just don't know what the fuck to do anymore.

Sounds like you can do a hell of a lot better then her.

I agree with Aseren, although I'm sorry to hear about your situation psycho 8b. I think your concern is certainly justified.

quote:Originally posted by psycho_8b:

. She has not a mark.



Mate, there's your mistake...right there.

Ok, so I'm old fashioned but...she'd been mine and had attacked me then she'd have found herself over my knee. At least she'd then have cause to go running to her mum.

But i'm guessing you're a bit more modern carey-sharey-touchy-feely in your attitude?

Pick up the phone, call her. TELL her to come home now and stop playing silly buggers.Don't ask. Certainly don't beg.

She says 'no' then her stuff goes on the street BUT DO NOT say that to her. Never give ultimatums.

There is no way she should want to go to a party (of that sort) without you. That in itself is reason enough for you to be worried.



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quote:Originally posted by psycho_8b:

...and has cheated on me several times in the past.

...the fuck? Then why are you still with her?

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

...the fuck? Then why are you still with her?

It is called LOVE...it happens.

I love my fiance madly, but if she ever cheated on me, I'd kick her out on the fucking street immediately. I'd probably be able to hold my hand back, but she most definately would recieve a scarring verbal barrage.

And I wouldnt expect any differently from her. Cheating is entirely, 100% inexcusable, ALWAYS. If shes cheated on you before, she will again. Tell her to GTFO.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

It is called LOVE...it happens.

..is this LOVE you speak of different to love? Y'know, love, that normal emotion that almost all people feel at some point in their life? That feeling worth dying for, killing for, but most importantly, living for?

Fuck head. I know what love is. Betrayal is something saved for enemies, not those you love. You're exempt from the treatment of a lover once you cheat on some one.

I would have thought you, the pussy mutilator, would have understood this.

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

...the fuck? Then why are you still with her?

I agree she is a lying cunt, Everybody can make that mistake once and cheat, but cheating repeatedly is a complusive cheater. She sir will continue to do it

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

..is this LOVE you speak of different to love? Y'know, love, that normal emotion that almost all people feel at some point in their life? That feeling worth dying for, killing for, but most importantly, living for?

Fuck head. I know what love is. Betrayal is something saved for enemies, not those you love. You're exempt from the treatment of a lover once you cheat on some one.

I would have thought you, the pussy mutilator, would have understood this.

quote:1 Corinthians 13

Love

4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8Love never fails

ps. I apologise for using the NIV...i'm in a hurry cos the chemical paint stripper is drying.(the NIV sucks donkey-cock theologically speaking).

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quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

Mate, there's your mistake...right there.

Ok, so I'm old fashioned but...she'd been mine and had attacked me then she'd have found herself over my knee. At least she'd then have cause to go running to her mum.



I'd be really interested if you ever had the time or felt the compulsion to write a thread about controlling women that way.

(sorry for going off topic)

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

I'd be really interested if you ever had the time or felt the compulsion to write a thread about controlling women that way.

(sorry for going off topic)

Thought about it a lot.

But its time I could better spend IMing outcast.

However the crux of giving a woman a real spanking (as opposed for fun/sex) is simply to do it and not to stop until she is sobbing/shaking.

Stop before then and she'll walk out on you/call the police/stab you in the night.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

1 Corinthians 13

Love

4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

Yeah, maybe in a fairy tale world. Love in reality is rather proud. It's also extremely envious and jealous, as well as boastful. While it can be kind, it's usually just as mean, as well as rather hurried.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Love is blind, stupid, and slow then by this defintion. Being rude is part of being human, and a person after living with someone long enough will just get under your skin.

All humans are self-seeking even if they try and pretend they aren't. A person can seem to be the most selfless person out there and they STILL have a reason for such things that have to do with personal interests.

Sometimes it's rather smart to be "easily angered" lest you become a doormat. And the reason we have so many bloody threads in S&A about people getting hurt is because love "keeps no wrongs". It's blind, and people just happen to be trying to run backwards through cornfields.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love can be more evil than hate (especially when it's as blind as most), and it refuses the obvious truth even after it's shoved in its face, over and over. Protecting and trusting, hoping and perseving, all things that don't do any good for anyone when you're blind and cannot make choices that make sense.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:8Love never fails

Love ALWAYS fails. It's just when two people are adult enough to understand and be great friends, that's when love won't die so easily. But it always does, even if it takes a lifetime.

^ Gwan do the rest of the bible with your anedotal evidence, largely based on teenagers on S&A. Then I'll be impressed.

Gus, you're a fat virgin, shut up.

At the end of a day, its basically how much you love her, if she cheats on you, there must be something missing from your relationship.

You have 2 choices.

1) Kick the bitch out

2) Accept another man has cummed in her, and kissed her neck, in exactly the same places you do, and live with it.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

the NIV sucks donkey-cock theologically speaking.

Huh? The only Bibles I have is a TNIV and a King James one, the latter only being for when I want to see a passage in a grandiose and pretentious fashion. You mind telling me which Bible is good theologically speaking?

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

...the fuck? Then why are you still with her?

But to the OP, I agree with arquin.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

It is called MISPLACEDLOVE...it happens.



there I fixed your comment ... ...

///an insignificant person

Why the fuck would you stay with some cheating slut? You actually let her cheat on you more than once?! She should have been out on her ass the first time it happened. Its pretty sad you still take that shit. In short, GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS.

quote:Originally posted by psycho_8b:

I was tired after work.

We're having worries about moving into a new place...Money worries, freedoms, etc.

We go out for a drink and the shit hits the fan.

She starts telling me about this house party tonight even though when ahe told me about it a couple days ago it was supposed to be tomorrow. The sudden change in the story rings some alarm bells with me.

I don't begrudge her going out and having fun but it worries me when she's going to be surrounded by drunken little fucks, will be drunk herself and has cheated on me several times in the past.

Whoa wait, that's where I stopped reading.

DUMP HER GODDAMN CHEATING FUCKING ASS NOW.

I know it's not that easy, and I know it will really hurt like a motherfucker but it's better to face the pain now and deal with it than drag it out for several long painfull months/years.

Man..



You seem like a pretty decent person on Totse. I very much doubt you deserve to be cheated on.



Dont put up with that shit.

I may be a doormat and an idiot, but I'd never tolerate anyone actually actively cheating on me. And you're neither a doormat or an idiot, so you deffinately shouldnt put up with shit like that.

She doesnt deserve you. What she deserves is to be fucked by as many people as her fetid vagina can possibly fit, and then collect an exciting array of std's and infections, have to have her vagina surgically removed due to the severity of the infections, and then have her arms and legs drop off.

But what she deserves most of all is to lose you. That would be the worst thing that could happen to her. Ever.

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Yeah, maybe in a fairy tale world. Love in reality is rather proud. It's also extremely envious and jealous, as well as boastful. While it can be kind, it's usually just as mean, as well as rather hurried.

I'd hate to live in your world. I humbly suggest that what you describe - in the rest of your post as well - is not love at all.

Gus, you know absolutely nothing of love. Don't confuse whatever shitty experience you had with a relationship with true love.

Dude, she doesn't respect you. She cheats on you, and she hits you. Why are you willing to deal with that?

you just don't know what the fuck to do anymore?!

are you kidding!?

I don't even feel sorry for you in all of this. She's only cheated on you multiple times because you didn't kick her ass out the first time she did. She knows she can walk all over you as much as she wants to. I might as well have capitalized that last sentence since she had the nerve to try n go at you violently. But of course you did nothing about it except say "I just don't know what the fuck to do anymore".

Man, there are many other ladies out there who would be so grateful to share a high allegiance with you. Why waste your time and emotion on a bum who just wants to take advantage of yours to her?

Mate, don't feel guilty. You had every right to be pissed off. If you hold your ground, like a man should after he's taken it, she'll come back to you.

If she doesn't, she was cheating all along (don't say THAT to her though).

Thanks for all the input...Positive or otherwise.

It's just annoying...I can't even think of a life without her.

She does so much for me, she's really loving and is a great person to just sit and be with.

It's really painful to think of the past...She did those things when she was going through a whole bunch of shit of her own and I took that into consideration.

But I can't get the feelings and thoughts out of me that she will do it again if she thinks she can get away with it.

I've thought about telling her to go so many times but I break and fold and realise I really do love her.

If I could go back to my old ways of not having a heart or feelings I would in a second...This love stuff is too much work.

But I keep realising that in some way it will be worth it in the long run.

So goddamn confusing.

Feminists say a real man will never put his hands on a woman, put a punk bitch aint no mother fucking lady, shes shifty and shady....

Chin up, you're walking a difficult road.

There's no advice to it, other than follow your feelings and keep in mind that those feelings are returned.