...nor should I.

I'm a wreck. Sure, when it comes to the actual communication and emotion part I do ok. But other than that, I meet about 0 of the criteria I need.

I'm not especially good looking, and I'm all too hairy. I get nervous around people. I have panic attacks. I occasionally need a good kick when I'm being too much of a dork. I'm terrible about calling. I don't even own a phone at the moment. I can't keep a job. I can't even get a job. I have no money nor transportation (not having a car is practically a capital crime in Detroit). I live with my mother for the aforementioned reasons. Then there's my other reason, which I am far too ashamed of to mention here, but let's just say the subject doesn't come up frequently, thankfully.

One would think that I would have made at least a little progress in my life since I was 14, a decade ago.

I fucking deserve to be alone.

I think you'd be far less upset if you were picking up girls and this confidence would in turn filter through to the other parts of your life.

Perhaps if everything is as bad as you say you should do something outrageous to try to get a girl? Go to a bar or club with a friend, approach the most attractive girl there and introduce yourself.

And at every mention of your name and any grand statement, have your friend bang a small hand hold gong. Insure he keeps a straight face and ignores all questions.

Then ask if she can by you a drink, make some reference to being of an obscure royal line, and invite her to something like go-karting. (Just make sure it’s different and fun and act like you’re going there irregardless.) Make sure your friend follows you everywhere, clashing that gong unless you dismiss him.

Make sure any and all lies you tell are so outrageous as to be funny, always smile and act a bit cocky.



I don’t know if this would work in real life, I doubt I’d have the guts to do it, but I think if you have the right attitude, if you make the whole thing look like a laugh and then explain to her at the end that he lost a bet all something, it could go really well.

It just seems to me that sometimes you have to do something really grand and ridiculous to shift your life off the path it’s going.

Perhaps you missed my point. No one who's as much of a total trainwreck as I am should be in a relationship.

I'm just pissed that all those condoms are going to expire. I never should have bought that 36 pack back in '05.

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:



I'm just pissed that all those condoms are going to expire. I never should have bought that 36 pack back in '05.

They'll still hold water, I presume?

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

They'll still hold water, I presume?

waterfight?!

I like your style

You know as well as anyone else all those problems you listed aren't as serious or crippling as you're making them out to be. Some aren't even real problems. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, man up, and go out and get a woman.

Make a move and change your life. Get any job you can. Change the way you look. Make yourself worth being in a relationship. You're only 24 (or whatever) for crying out loud, your best years are still ahead of you.

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quote:Originally posted by Zonko:

You know as well as anyone else all those problems you listed aren't as serious or crippling as you're making them out to be. Some aren't even real problems. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, man up, and go out and get a woman.

you're right in saying that his problems aren't that grand, but he still needs to fix them before getting a woman

go out and get a job and keep it, then you won't be living with your mom, your confidence will increase and enable you to get a woman

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:



I'm not especially good looking, and I'm all too hairy. I get nervous around people. I have panic attacks. I occasionally need a good kick when I'm being too much of a dork.

Absolute bullshit. None of that matters a lick in a relationship.

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:

I'm terrible about calling. I don't even own a phone at the moment. I can't keep a job. I can't even get a job. I have no money nor transportation (not having a car is practically a capital crime in Detroit). I live with my mother for the aforementioned reasons.

You're 24, and you live at home, you dont have a car, or a job. That screams loser. It really does. Who gives a rats ass about relationships? You need to concentrate on other things in your life. Relationship stuff sorts itself out. Look at the other points in your life, which you've already identified.

If you cant keep a job, thats a very big problem. Ask yourself why? God knows you can find at least a lower paying job where you arent actually responsible for anything that you can show up and put your time in and get a paycheck. But if you've got some psychological thing that keeps you from going to work or you're not able to complete the tasks, then maybe you should seriously consider going to a psychologist.

As far as your social problems, and getting nervous around people. At 24, you should be past that. Look at the way you're living your life. What are you doing with your life? Do you just stay home all day and fuck around online? Do you go to school? Do you go out places? If you're comfortable staying in the house all day, you're never going to change. You'll never be comfortable around people, because you'll never get used to being around people. Inertia applies to everything in your life. Just go out. It doesnt matter where. Go to the mall, go to bars. Take some classes. But make it a point to talk to someone everywhere you go.

May I recommend http://doubleyourdating.com

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:

...nor should I.

Then that's the end of the discussion, as we both know. Self-confidence in one's own ability is the key to being able to have a healthy relationship, and being unable to keep a partner for very long.

All of your issues aside, you are just a normal human being. With your issues, you're just a normal human being with issues. Which in reality makes you normal because perfection isn't normal. But stop worrying about women, and start worrying about the mass of other things you could be worrying about.

Women will flock to you after you've made it into fame.

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:

[Blet's just say the subject doesn't come up frequently, thankfully.[/B]

Hahaha I laughed... Well put, props at least you have one thing going for you.

quote:Originally posted by Forgotten:

I think you'd be far less upset if you were picking up girls and this confidence would in turn filter through to the other parts of your life.

Perhaps if everything is as bad as you say you should do something outrageous to try to get a girl? Go to a bar or club with a friend, approach the most attractive girl there and introduce yourself.

And at every mention of your name and any grand statement, have your friend bang a small hand hold gong. Insure he keeps a straight face and ignores all questions.

Then ask if she can by you a drink, make some reference to being of an obscure royal line, and invite her to something like go-karting. (Just make sure it’s different and fun and act like you’re going there irregardless.) Make sure your friend follows you everywhere, clashing that gong unless you dismiss him.

Make sure any and all lies you tell are so outrageous as to be funny, always smile and act a bit cocky.



I don’t know if this would work in real life, I doubt I’d have the guts to do it, but I think if you have the right attitude, if you make the whole thing look like a laugh and then explain to her at the end that he lost a bet all something, it could go really well.

It just seems to me that sometimes you have to do something really grand and ridiculous to shift your life off the path it’s going.



You truily are a legend. next time I get drunk i am trying this out. Now heres looking forward to sixth form theme night.

quote:Originally posted by Mahatma Gandhi:

May I recommend http://doubleyourdating.com

Double 0 is 0.

quote:Originally posted by Forgotten:

I think you'd be far less upset if you were picking up girls and this confidence would in turn filter through to the other parts of your life.

Perhaps if everything is as bad as you say you should do something outrageous to try to get a girl? Go to a bar or club with a friend, approach the most attractive girl there and introduce yourself.

And at every mention of your name and any grand statement, have your friend bang a small hand hold gong. Insure he keeps a straight face and ignores all questions.

Then ask if she can by you a drink, make some reference to being of an obscure royal line, and invite her to something like go-karting. (Just make sure it’s different and fun and act like you’re going there irregardless.) Make sure your friend follows you everywhere, clashing that gong unless you dismiss him.

Make sure any and all lies you tell are so outrageous as to be funny, always smile and act a bit cocky.



I don’t know if this would work in real life, I doubt I’d have the guts to do it, but I think if you have the right attitude, if you make the whole thing look like a laugh and then explain to her at the end that he lost a bet all something, it could go really well.

It just seems to me that sometimes you have to do something really grand and ridiculous to shift your life off the path it’s going.

I like you. Want to be my &totse friend?

quote:Originally posted by Forgotten:

I think you'd be far less upset if you were picking up girls and this confidence would in turn filter through to the other parts of your life.

Perhaps if everything is as bad as you say you should do something outrageous to try to get a girl? Go to a bar or club with a friend, approach the most attractive girl there and introduce yourself.

And at every mention of your name and any grand statement, have your friend bang a small hand hold gong. Insure he keeps a straight face and ignores all questions.

Then ask if she can by you a drink, make some reference to being of an obscure royal line, and invite her to something like go-karting. (Just make sure it’s different and fun and act like you’re going there irregardless.) Make sure your friend follows you everywhere, clashing that gong unless you dismiss him.

Make sure any and all lies you tell are so outrageous as to be funny, always smile and act a bit cocky.



I don’t know if this would work in real life, I doubt I’d have the guts to do it, but I think if you have the right attitude, if you make the whole thing look like a laugh and then explain to her at the end that he lost a bet all something, it could go really well.

It just seems to me that sometimes you have to do something really grand and ridiculous to shift your life off the path it’s going.

haha... should you go with this, make sure to videotape it. I MUST see this...

There's not much we can do about it. You can bitch and whine about it all you want but its you that has to actually get off your ass and do something about it.

Go out, get a job, make friends and be social. Get over what ever bogus mental illness you think you might/have been told you have - no one else can do the work for you.

Also having this negative 'I can't do anything/I'm hopeless' attitude isn't going to make you go anywhere but backwards.

I thought you had a gf very recently, what happened to her?

quote:Originally posted by Prometheus:

Perhaps you missed my point. No one who's as much of a total trainwreck as I am should be in a relationship.

You are right. This is not a good time to get into a relationship, it would be stupid. It sounds like you need to pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get started on life before you start on a girlfriend.

Also, I live in Detroit and being without a car is punishment. That should be your first angle of attack.

Well kate, I can do the long distance thing as long as I get to see her occasionaly. I can not do the long distance thing when she won't return my calls for 6 weeks. That was the end of that. It was mutual.

I know the whole looks thing doesn't really matter. Intellectually at least. I've taken so much shit about my looks in the past though, that it bugs me in my gut. To elaborate on the 'overly hairy' part, I need to shave about 3 times a day. Because of this, I always look a little unkempt.

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:

You're 24, and you live at home, you dont have a car, or a job. That screams loser. It really does. Who gives a rats ass about relationships? You need to concentrate on other things in your life. Relationship stuff sorts itself out. Look at the other points in your life, which you've already identified.

If you cant keep a job, thats a very big problem. Ask yourself why? God knows you can find at least a lower paying job where you arent actually responsible for anything that you can show up and put your time in and get a paycheck. But if you've got some psychological thing that keeps you from going to work or you're not able to complete the tasks, then maybe you should seriously consider going to a psychologist.

As far as your social problems, and getting nervous around people. At 24, you should be past that. Look at the way you're living your life. What are you doing with your life? Do you just stay home all day and fuck around online? Do you go to school? Do you go out places? If you're comfortable staying in the house all day, you're never going to change. You'll never be comfortable around people, because you'll never get used to being around people. Inertia applies to everything in your life. Just go out. It doesnt matter where. Go to the mall, go to bars. Take some classes. But make it a point to talk to someone everywhere you go.

Let me address this point by point.

I know why I can't keep a job. Sorta. For reasons beyond my understanding, when I have to spent time with a large enough group of people, some of them always turn on me. I mean vicious. You'd think at my age people would grow the fuck up rather than spreading rumors and whacking me with broomsticks.

I've also just had some plain old bad luck. Last year I got a job doing inventory at an antique store and posting stuff on ebay. The business shut down the day before I started. I got a job at a convenience store, but when I showed up for my first day, someone else had 'my' job, and I was never able to get ahold of the guy who 'hired' me. etc...

Also, I was seeing a psychologist, but lost my insurance. Long story short, it was one of those things that just happens.

Yes, I should be past the anxiety thing. Especially considering all the medication I take.

I take classes when I can afford them. As for going out, well... I've never actually been to a club. I don't think I'd like it. I have found one venue where I actually feel comfortable, scifi/computer/geeky conventions. I can't usually afford to attend, but I make sure to save money for one every year.

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My overall point is that until I get my life together, I have no business being with anyone.

And yes, I am fully aware that I am being a whiny bitch. I get like that when I've been in a bad mood for more than a few days.

Don't be so hard on yourself. You obviously just haven't met the right girl yet.

On a side note, don't worry about being hairy. While not all girls are like me, I love my men hairy. It's just so manly and sexy.

1. Pray to god.

2. Find a job.

3. Find a drunken scumbag for a friend. U will look better next to him.

4. True failure is giving up.

5. Women are easy, someone will love ya as long as you try, think why homeless black men with aids get the pretty girls to mooch off of. They give women attention.

6. Living with mom at 24, tell women you are in college or your mom is sick and you take care of her.

7. You sound depressed, do you use drugs or booze? Both can make dramtic changes in life.

8. Pray to god

1. I don't believe in conventional religion

2. I'm working on it.

3. But I wouldn't want to spend time with him.

4. I haven't given up, I'm just frustrated.

5. I'm familiar with that one. Once I meet a woman who I don't immediately scare off, I tend to do okay.

6. Not 100% false.

7. The only drugs I take are the ones the doc gives me. I very rarely drink, once every few months.

8. You sound like my dad.

I used to drive a truck around the country, I may be your dad.

Just Kidden.

Go to a bar with scummy friend and find a drunken lady to have sex with. It will boost your self confidence. Women on drugs need loving too!

Just don't get caught up in thier bullshit.



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SUICIDE IS ALWAYS AN ANSWER "

Fuck relationships. Deal with the other things in your life first.