I'm no casanova. Far from it, indeed.

I've been sick and tired of the bullshit that I feel when I'm a manipulative fuck (and all guys have the same capacity, I just don't like to do it).

so I have a lot of female friends who are at least passably attractive.

but they don't want a damn thing to do with me, romantically

I've been really REALLY down lately, so I went to a friend's house. She's a bit of a loner, being the new girl, and I'm the first guy from the school who's been over.

I'm no idiot, when it comes to obvious shit like what she was doing. The awkward uber-interested shit like "I want you to hear this song" and the palsy-type mega-spasm things that I used to get, but only if I was anticipating getting laid.

When I first met her, I was all "OMG awesome girl! everybody must meet her!" and I kinda had a crush on her for a week or 2. She didn't want to deal with boyfriend stuff at that point, much less with a guy who she couldn't read. (apparently, I'm pretty opaque)

God... Why now? When I'm wrecked, mentally and emotionally, and just trying to fix my head.

Anything like this happen to you?

Anybody have a rationale as to why this happens?

uhhh.... im not sure what your saying. could you clairify please?

I mean, I'm a genuinely nice guy all year. I listen, I don't do the lamer shit, I genuinely care about what goes on in their lives, I always answer the phone for them, and I get reminded of "We're not going to ever ever ever ever ever date you, but we're going to date guys who'll beat us and treat us terribly and bitch to you about it"

I get my own problems? I get more and more attractive as I get worse.

What the shit?

EDIT:

Oh yeah: My friends, while not emo themselves, have some serious soft-spots for emo boys. One dude in particular, I'll call him Joe, they consider to be the hottest thing alive and will cause bodily harm to those who "Just don't see it" (me)

[This message has been edited by Phayder92889 (edited 01-24-2007).]

you just said the answer to your problem. Your a nice guy, your their friend. my advice is stop being so nice like dont listen to their bitching about their bfs and idk what else to say. oh yea sounds like you should kill joe. probably a bad idea but fun.

I have been that type of friend. FOr while they were just using me talk about their problems and other shit i wasn't interisted in. So their are some steps I took about getting what I want.

1. Stop acting nice. Act more like a jerk but don't offend them to point where they hate you.

2.When Opportunity comes touch them.Where ass,breast etc. etc.

3. Ask them to hook you with a friend of theirs.

4. At parties if and when they get drunk well then fuck them. They know you them what the hell.Fuck buddies.Friends with benefit whatever.

Remember kids. If the is no shield for the rocket keep it in your pocket.

Hope this helps

You could try this:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=43174

Or you could take the just get into a dark room alone with the girl, initiate awkward pauses, and then try to kiss her.

quote:palsy-type mega-spasm things that I used to get, but only if I was anticipating getting laid.

Fuck yes.

What are you worrying about? Stop thinking self-pity and start thinking about shit you can do with her, and then do it.

I'm really not interested in her, sexually. I have no doubt I could tap her, but I'd hate myself for it and feel terrible about it.

I used to manipulate chicks and run game and get laid a lot more than I do now, but I felt horrible afterward and didn't like who I was.

I want to be liked for the nice guy I've become, that's all.

pussy. jk i think your desire to be liked for being a nice guy is noble. i dont know exactly what kind of girl is atracted that though. and

thorough bump