This is probably the first time I posted and from what I read, I've seen alot of flames and hoping not to get that so I'll go strait to the point. I apologize for making you read that.

There's this girl I've known all my life. I always had strange feelings for her, but now they've grown stronger and I talk to her more. It doesn't seem like shes interested in me because well she has a boyfriend already so that makes sense. I really want to 'pop the question' though. She always smiles at me during church and holds my hand during prayer time. Were both always happy when we talk to each other and it seems like were good friends, but at the same time, it seems like she doesn't like me like that, but I'm not sure because it's not like I can read girls.

Maybe its just my state of mind, but I just have a small question. Should I consider asking her tommorrow even though she has a boyfriend given the above details? I'm sorry, I just really need advice right now. Thank you for any responses...

fuck sake dont. Girls are like this. Youve fallen into the friendship trap. Its likely youll never escape this. Are you an alpah male, and how old are you?

/>/> Mike

You answered your own question when you said she had a boyfriend.

Piss off.

quote:Originally posted by MJR deus:

fuck sake dont. Girls are like this. Youve fallen into the friendship trap. Its likely youll never escape this. Are you an alpah male, and how old are you?

/>/> Mike



im 15

for christ's sake man, she has a fucking boyfriend. she's just going to say no. even if she IS attracted to you, she won't say yes because SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND. you're just friends and you're going to fuck things up by asking her out when she's already in a relationship.

i mean, i know you're 15, but christ!

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

for christ's sake man, she has a fucking boyfriend. she's just going to say no. even if she IS attracted to you, she won't say yes because SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND. you're just friends and you're going to fuck things up by asking her out when she's already in a relationship.

i mean, i know you're 15, but christ!

ok. sorry.

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

ok. sorry.

you fuking should be

quote:Originally posted by bazthefish:

you fuking should be

LOL.

lol totse is so harsh. but they are right, first of all she has a bf, and second you are in the friend zone now. basically no escaping it

quote:Originally posted by TTMan:

lol totse is so harsh. but they are right, first of all she has a bf, and second you are in the friend zone now. basically no escaping it

thanks

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

She always smiles at me during church and holds my hand during prayer time.

LOL x2

hooray, you got it.

i didn't want to be mean, but honestly telling you "well now, that's too bad, try anyway" wasn't going to work.

just respect that she's in a relationship and stay friends with her. and i mean the kind of friends that are JUST FRIENDS, get it? no telling her you're attracted to her, no innuendo, no hints, nothing of a sexual nature whatsoever. just be a friend and don't fuck with it.

gadzooks, please fuck off

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

gadzooks, please fuck off

Lol. Just accept that you are not going end up with this girl. You're naive to think that. At least you have the balls to "pop the question", I'll give you that much. When I was 15, no, up until I was like 19, I couldn't ask that to any girl, let alone a girl who's my friend.

But yeah, if she's your friend, she most likely won't respond in your favor.

The boyfriend part isn't even that important, some chicks dump their boyfriends at the drop of a hat if someone better comes along.

It's the fact that she's your friend that makes me think that you don't stand a chance (no offense).

yea gadzooks is right, it sucks but you have to accept it.

and if you did ask and she said no, then you've probably lost her as a friend as well, making your move when you know she has a boyfriend.

You hold hands in church?



dude...no way it's ever gonna happen. You're a Jesus buddy.

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

no telling her you're attracted to her, no innuendo, no hints, nothing of a sexual nature whatsoever. just be a friend and don't fuck with it.

That's boring though. I flirt with all my female friends. Although maybe they aren't really true "friends" since I would fuck them if given the chance. Most of them at least, not the unattractive ones.

I wouldn't date any of them though. So maybe that's why they're considered friends.

quote:Originally posted by TTMan:

and if you did ask and she said no, then you've probably lost her as a friend as well, making your move when you know she has a boyfriend.

Yeah, it could end up being quite embarrassing and awkward, FOREVER.

If you enjoy the friendship, then don't ruin it. If you just want to date or fuck her, then go for it. You can always make new friends.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

That's boring though. I flirt with all my female friends. Although maybe they aren't really true "friends" since I would fuck them if given the chance. Most of them at least, not the unattractive ones.

I wouldn't date any of them though. So maybe that's why they're considered friends.

sigh. you are one screwed up little boy. now quit taking my logical statements and countering them with your screwed-upness and confusing this religious woman-stealer with your blasphemy!

this thread is fucking hilarious!

im drinking with my left hand so excuse capitalisation.

Girl and boy... girl gets life. boy likes girl. boy tells girl. boy hangs from barn roof.

Better try to wake up to the world before trying to fit in!

[Your "holding hands in church" bit leads me to the immediate assumption that you're a dumb redneck kid... sorry if im mistaken]

lol i think that holding hand in church thing is funny/sweet, hes in the wrong place if he takes any assholes opinion as fact though.

Please excuse my fuck off comment gadzooks. Thanks for being real about it, but everyones making too many assumptions about it. I mean I guess you'd have to be in the situation to see what I mean, but anyway thanks for the replies.

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

religious woman-stealer

Lol, I just got the irony now...

One of the ten commandments:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

OP, you need to pay more attention in church. Stop daydreaming about fucking this girl in the confession box or on the church pews.

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

Please excuse my fuck off comment gadzooks. Thanks for being real about it, but everyones making too many assumptions about it. I mean I guess you'd have to be in the situation to see what I mean, but anyway thanks for the replies.

It's all good.

And yeah, that is another major point, none of us know your exact situation, so we don't have much to go on, except what you tell us.

And from what you tell us, it just sounds bad. Everyone is going to base their advice on the precedent cases like this, and in most cases, this type of situation doesn't usually pan out well.

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

She always smiles at me during church and holds my hand during prayer time.

1) shes just flirting with you like all girls do. So its nothing that you should take interest in.

2)you have are infatuated simply because she has a boyfriend, increasing your desire

3) LOL you go to CHURCH!!!!

quote:Originally posted by Mantikore:

3) LOL you go to CHURCH!!!!

PWNED!!

There's nothing wrong with going to church.

On another note... are they still considered friends if I'd fuck them given the chance?

quote:Originally posted by Chinese Food52:

On another note... are they still considered friends if I'd fuck them given the chance?

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum4/HTML/026556.html

clip the boyfriend.

You will come off it as a badass, and get the girl.

First off there church boy, shes screwing with your mind so that later she can chuck your penis into a waste bin, or in your case, one of those things where they perform baptismals in, where it will surely shrival up and die, then wipe her hands with any shred of self-esteem you have left in your "ass belongs to Jesus" body, like every man-eating woman heridarily knows from birth.

Secondly, she has a boyfriend. I'm hoping this is getting clear by now.

And lastly, you are talking about a girl who, apparently somehow, gets off by holding hands with a boy-o in church, and thats only a maybe. So heres a little hint, if you plan on getting your dick wet, I wouldn't bother unless you have a huge diamond ring and, I'm assuming here, the permission of BOTH your parents seeing as anyone that follows the teachings of a jew who died nearly 2000 years, is probably a hilljack who is just a little behind the times, and is trying oh so hard to catch up, because I hate to say, you're not getting past "heavy petting" at best.

I know its heart breaking, it really is, but we have to remain strong, because we are men.

By the way I'm sure your sist... I mean object of affection is just lovely.

Move on. Holding hands at prayer time?

Awww.

Don't ask her.

People like you are the reason chicks leave decent guys.

Besides, if she would leave him for you, what makes you think she wouldn't leave you for somebody else?

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

she's just going to say no. even if she IS attracted to you, she won't say yes because SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND.

Heh, you're so innocent. It's cute.

Unfortunately, not all girls are as loyal or sensible as you are. This girl may well say yes, and really, that would be even worse.

If she'd chuck her boyfriend just because another guy asked her out, what's stopping her from them doing it to the thread starter and breaking his heart?

You can get her if you want. But you must know what you want, otherwise it'll be like a baby lion trying to kill his first gazelle.

Realise, though, that you only want her because you can't have her. Once you do, you'll probably lose all interest.

quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:

Heh, you're so innocent. It's cute.

Unfortunately, not all girls are as loyal or sensible as you are. This girl may well say yes, and really, that would be even worse.

i was basing it on what i thought a normal girl would do. my bad.

either way, she either tells him to go to hell after sufficiently confusing him with her little flirty act, or she says ok, trots off on the other guy, and thus starts a long and painful string of heartbreak because if she'll do it once, she'll do it again.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

But you must know what you want, otherwise it'll be like a baby lion trying to kill his first gazelle.

Lol, that's such a cute analogy.

I read a few of the first torrents of abuse and decided to post.

Don't give up hope mate, you've known her all your life and you will for many years to come.

Now is simply not the right time.

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

help with girl, but she has a boyfriend

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quote:Originally posted by TTMan:

lol totse is so harsh. but they are right, first of all she has a bf, and second you are in the friend zone now. basically no escaping it

well if you want i could get u some ebos , that'll make the friend zone escapable

I'm still fucking loling at the holding hands in church thing. I don't give a shit if he goes to church, but, wow.

Thank you for all the replies everyone. Many helped...others not so much, but it's alright. Thanks.

quote:Originally posted by uh name1:

Thank you for all the replies everyone. Many helped...others not so much, but it's alright. Thanks.

If you want better replies give more information.

If you want more flames then say more stuff like holding hands during prayer time.