So I'm starting to get really annoyed, and pretty baffled. I'm not great looking by any means, maybe a little bit under average but it's not that much of a concern. I groom myself well, brush my hair, shave everyday, all that twaddle. I have no problem talking to people I've never met before and I make friends very easily. I have morals, decent sense of humour and all that other banal crap that you see people listing.

So why on Earth can I not find a girl who is interested in me? It's not even like I'm repulsing them by trying to get into their pants or anything, almost all of my good friends are girls. I just happen to get on with them better. So why is it I can't find one I get on with that well? It's not like I'm not meeting them because in the last month or so I've made a whole bunch of new, good friends, about 60% of them girls.

What's going on? Shall I just murder/Suicide?

[This message has been edited by Toothlessjoe (edited 01-07-2007).]

If you want to post a picture for 'rating' then in this case i would allow it.

No, you post pics and we tell you what is wrong.

Well Toothlessjoe, maybe your dental hygine is subpar.

Or maybe your personality sucks.

Its hard to tell from a single paragraph, ya know?

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

If you want to post a picture for 'rating' then in this case i would allow it.

I'm not really up for posting a picture, the new HB kids love reposting them in every thread I post in. It's very tedious. But here we go anyway: http://tinyurl.com/o5lmh | http://tinyurl.com/mbe82

I've even made them a little "emoish", so the kids can relate and all.

I don't really think how I look is really the problem here though, but then given I don't what the hell is going on, perhaps it is? It's just getting to be frustrating for me now, I'd quite like to have that kind of company you get from someone you're dating, or even just starting to see. Alas, it eludes me like logic does a woman.

[This message has been edited by Toothlessjoe (edited 01-07-2007).]

Have you been actively seducing them?

If you wish to continue going down the same road, I'm afraid you'll have to excersize extreme patience coupled with a keen sense of opportunity.

Learn how to smile.

quote:Originally posted by Fanglekai:

Learn how to smile.

Wow, how insightful. It's clear that I never make a facial expression such as smiling. I can see where this thread is heading already. Brilliant.

One drunken night I was storming through the town, planning to smash a bottle over someone's head for hitting my brother the night before.

I ended up running into this huge group, consisting of 4 girls and about 15 boys. I didn't get too much further that night. I got off with one of the girls, and we messed around all night.

I was talking to one of the guys from the crowd, and apparently his friend has fancied this girl for the longest time and always gets hurt/confused when she doesn't recognise him and gets off with someone else.

Obviously, he wasn't trying hard enough! Are you?

[This message has been edited by Docta? (edited 01-07-2007).]

In the pic with the glass of whiskey(?) you almost have a Johnny Depp thang going on.

Anyways, my best advice (besides getting contact lenses and shaving off the stupid bum fluff on your chin) would be to grab your bestes female friend and a bottle . Then really talk to her about what it is she thinks puts women off you.Better still grab several girly friends...the more the better cos they won't mind being 'bitchy' in a group.

You definately look hotter in the second pic.... so yeah loose the glasses and wear your hair down. Why don't you ask one of your many girl friends if they can hook you up with someone? You never know it could work.

Yes, asking girls to be honest would be a plus. What sorts of girls do you find interesting?

They think you're a pussy or a gay.

Probably because your toothless.

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

Yes, asking girls to be honest would be a plus. What sorts of girls do you find interesting?

I think right now, for him anything that has a pulse is interesting.

Like everyone else said, cut your fucking hair. It doesn't have to be short, but atleast get the hair off your back. On top of that, with glasses you look like a complete idiot. Without glasses you look like a much more approachable guy.

Reading through your post though seems like you don't know how to talk to women. You just insulted their logic. Change your look, change your hair, shave, bathe and put yourself out there.

You have the loving adoration of captain_kirk. What more do you want man!?

quote:Originally posted by the phantom stranger:

You have the loving adoration of captain_kirk. What more do you want man!?

A girlfriend would be nice .

As previously said:

Cut your hair and get contacts.

Also, this may be a strange statement . . . but the bad style of your hair/glasses make me think you dress badly.

Get an ATTRACTIVE female friend to take you shopping.

You know I'd happily suck your face off if I wasnt taken, and if you wouldnt scream rape.

Your looks have nothing to do with it!

With your image and style the girls you meet are going to be of a similar metalhead type, and you're a hawt one at that, so no, looks really not a factor.



I dont know. Maybe your radar is borked? Maybe some of the girls you know do fancy you and you just dont notice?

Mr 'Ketch you give the worst advice ever, I shaved my beard off on a whim. It looks really bad, or at least I think so. I'm going to have to wait like almost 2 1/2 weeks for that thing to grow back.

quote:Originally posted by yoyobek:

You know I'd happily suck your face off if I wasnt taken, and if you wouldnt scream rape.

I dont know. Maybe your radar is borked? Maybe some of the girls you know do fancy you and you just dont notice?

Perhaps my radar is borked, it has been said I'm pretty oblivious to that sort of thing. I'll start paying more attention from now on and let you all know what happens. And Yoyo I couldn't scream anything let alone rape right now, my throat is red raw .

Sounds Familiar man.

Its 2007 Babie.

You look better without glasses, try cutting your hair. And gelling it up in the front. Sure you will look like a prep, but girls go for that shit.

quote:Originally posted by Psychonautical:

You look better without glasses, try cutting your hair. And gelling it up in the front. Sure you will look like a prep, but girls go for that shit.

No gelling.

quote:Originally posted by Psychonautical:

You look better without glasses, try cutting your hair. And gelling it up in the front. Sure you will look like a prep, but girls go for that shit.

Depends on what type of girl he's trying to get.

I'm not saying people are like 'Well I'm a (insert trend here) so I'll only date someone who's also (insert trend here)'

But similar tastes and interests are a big attracting feature.

quote:Originally posted by RiskOfFire:

No gelling.

Then just get rid of the damn glasses.

Jesus, some of you don't get this. This thread wasn't made so I could have you all tell me what I should change about my appearence so I'd better fit your perceptions of what girls (as if they all like the same thing ) would like. It was merely a "what am I doing wrong?" thread. Without being too arrogant, there's nothing much wrong with my personality, in fact, one could go as far as saying I'm awesome (trying to not be an asscastle here), and I've seen far worse off people in the looks and brains departments get ace girls to go out with them.

Am I some sort of missing link or something!?

[This message has been edited by Toothlessjoe (edited 01-08-2007).]

You're not ugly by any means, but your looks are, to put it shortly, fitting to a small niche, only some girls like that look (longer hair in that style, etc.), majority don't, and likely that the girls you're going after don't like it that much. Hook them with personality, but be approachable (as a start, no glasses) by using your looks, wider appeal so no girl is afraid to or feels weird talking to you, don't distance them.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

What's going on? Shall I just murder/Suicide?

Joe, you're FAR too nice I've noticed. Really, that's a good thing if you want a lot of loving friends, and whatnot, but if you want a girlfriend you need to not be so bloody nice. Maybe this is why you've seen me more as "an asshole", but though being overly nice all of the time is rather useless to your own personal cause. Women don't want a man that's going to listen to her problems and help her with that bullshit. Women want a man that's going to take charge, and lead a conversation so you don't have to sit through boring shit like that.

Develop a SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP before you try and develop an EMOTIONAL ONE. Instead of her already having what she wants more in her mind (the emotional aspects), as assuming she even wants that in the first place, you'll seem to open up to another layer. She'll find that you're not only a great lay, but you also have emotions and will listen to her. From there, you have to balance sexual and emotional, trying to keep as much sexual energy and thought within the relationship while allowing enough emotional to make her (and yourself, because you're still an emotional being like all humans) happy. This isn't to say that she doesn't want the sexual part, though, because that's how you attract her to you. All women crave sex, as much as men (if not more).

Don't spend too much time over thinking anything, either. Over thinking something makes your actions weak, and also has the annoying habit of making you fall "in love" with your partner much faster than you should. In the same manner, though, don't under think things, either. Give yourself at LEAST a day to figure something out (if she asks ANY question that you don't know the answer for instantly tell her just that, and you'd like some time to think it over) but no more than two hours a day if that makes sense. In the same manner, though, don't appear to be easy to get ahold of. It's basic human nature than a girl will want the man that seems the most important and hardest to control. The best genes for reproduction (and this is ALL SUBCONSCIOUS). In reality, you can even use this to your advantage in some simple ways: When you're having a good conversation with her, figure out what you else you could be doing right then, and do it. Tell her you have to go and do something else, and get that done. Don't give her a chance to keep you around longer than when you tell her that. If she wants something, don't just give it to her. Make her earn in whatever manner you wish to use. Making yourself hard to get a hold of will actually make her think about you more, and thus, make her start to fall for you. After a while, you'll start to notice your patterns actually putting her at this level, to keep her in check on the power level. Women that know they're important in your lives have a power far greater than what you might understand it to be.

For example, because I know how much y'all (totse) hate knowing that I'm better at women then you...

quote:[16:16:00] Alex: and then you can add in that your friend takes it a step further

[16:16:09] Alex: and like plays online games and stuff instead of having sex with his gf

[16:16:15] Alex: that makes hersuper horney

[16:16:21] Alex: and willing to do anything for sex

And then how his girlfriend tells the tale...

quote:Erin (1:02:30 AM): lol

Erin (1:20:12 AM): if you'd been a nice guy that i wanted to talk about problems w/

Erin (1:20:21 AM): i would never have had sex w/ you

But yes, you don't get a girlfriend by being their friend. You get a girlfriend by being a confident alpha-male. Take chances, expect loses, accept loses, and just generally try and let your brain deal with the more primitive aspects of sexual attraction. This doesn't mean you have to be a complete asshole (they only get girls because the girls are attracted to their sexual energies and confidence, and they never keep any girl worth dating [weak minded women are common, and not worth much]) you just need to have personal confidence in yourself and your actions (something that is seem as assholeish in this worthless politically correct world) and be a sexual being.

I hope I helped even if a very small way, Joe. I personally don't enjoy the way this game is set up; I'd rather just be the nice caring person that I used to be oh so long ago but you have to accept that this is how the world works. The way I see it, I'd rather play the game correctly and enjoy myself than try and stick to the ideals that there isn't any game, and that everything in life is about love but that's just NOT logical. So best of luck, my friend.

Gus, that was great man. Great advice and I'm gonna start taking a lot of that shit into consideration.

quote:Originally posted by voodoonirvana:

Gus, that was great man. Great advice and I'm gonna start taking a lot of that shit into consideration.

If I can only help one person in my life, let it be the one person that can help everyone else.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

http://myspace-235.vo.llnwd.net/00532/53/26/532096235_l.jpg

pwned.

the second pic's a lot better--try to go with that look more, i guess... oh, and be a shitty human being, they seem to get all the girls

quote:Originally posted by genericwittyusername:

the second pic's a lot better--try to go with that look more, i guess... oh, and be a shitty human being, they seem to get all the girls

Shitty human beings only get other shitty human beings longer than a week, and only when you're immature. Being a good person doesn't mean you have to be a pussy, though.

Understand that Joe isn't as immature as the majority of humans, and he really does deserve a good lover. It's just that there is a game that needs to be played, even for the best of people.

I've noticed that chicks seem to like you when you're a cunt to them, without being a total prick, and still showing interest in them, without showing too much. It's too confusing (I just cant really be fucked) to explain over the net.

Egh I have the same problem..but I have zero interest (more than friends interest) in 99.9% of girls which doesn't help.

Oh and its 100% for guys, I'm not gay.

*Shrugs*

Meh something will happen when the time is right - I'd suggust you not worry about it too much or it'll do your head in. Put yourself out there something will change for the better.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

Jesus, some of you don't get this. This thread wasn't made so I could have you all tell me what I should change about my appearence so I'd better fit your perceptions of what girls (as if they all like the same thing ) would like. It was merely a "what am I doing wrong?" thread. Without being too arrogant, there's nothing much wrong with my personality, in fact, one could go as far as saying I'm awesome (trying to not be an asscastle here), and I've seen far worse off people in the looks and brains departments get ace girls to go out with them.

Am I some sort of missing link or something!?



mmhm. so you have a good personality. your looks are ample, i agree with all, and i definitely know how idiots can get more girls. obviously there are small things you can do better like dressing well and crap but i think you are missing the 'killer instinct'. none of us here can be too specific because if you wrote a novel about yourself we would still know fuck all. so all i can really say is that its the killer instict. the (almost) arrogant confidence girls love. be proactive man. i know your not, you are just being passive aggressive. i know, because i do it too. go out, employ caveman tactics and get some pussy!

Look. Here's the deal. I'll take an interest in you if i'm paid.

Well, hmm, actually, i found the second picture quite hawt. But.. I have an odd taste in guys..

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

http://tinyurl.com/o5lmh | http://tinyurl.com/mbe82



1. Buy a razor.

2. Shave regularly.

3. Get a hair cut, you look like a hippy.

*runs to post in HB* j/k.

I didn't read all of Gus's shit, but from what I got, he's fucking right.

Being a nice guy does not get you pussy. Take charge, be an asshole, not too much of an asshole, but a loveable asshole.

Problem solved.

I've never got this asshole thing. Sounds like hocuspocus to me.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

I've never got this asshole thing. Sounds like hocuspocus to me.

ToothlessJoe, if you're referring to my post, which I spent the better part of an hour writing out JUST FOR YOU as "hocuspocus" and "asshole thing" then you OBVIOUSLY didn't read it.

You don't have to be an asshole to be confident in yourself. You DO have to be an alpha male, though. See, if you don't like it, that's ok. Just hope by the time you're forty that you're pulling down a very large paycheck, you have a great car, a big house, and have finally gotten over yourself.

That's another way of evolving into the alpha male position, although I'm rather sure you won't get that far. Really, reread my post, and try and keep an open mind. You're only an asshole when people like you call you one. The rest of the time, you're right, and rather better off.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

So why on Earth can I not find a girl who is interested in me? It's not even like I'm repulsing them by trying to get into their pants or anything, almost all of my good friends are girls. I just happen to get on with them better. So why is it I can't find one I get on with that well? It's not like I'm not meeting them because in the last month or so I've made a whole bunch of new, good friends, about 60% of them girls.

What's going on? Shall I just murder/Suicide?



This part sounds just like me and my life.

Maybe your 'situation' is noticable.

Umm..how to formulate.

Maybe it's obvious that you're not a success with women, and the natural flock instincts in you female friends is screwing you over.

It's like Chirs said, the best way to get girls is to get a girl.

Example:

This one girl was hanging around me, being all nice and shit, her friends were all 'smooth' trying to find out if I liked her.

Right.

A bit of drinking, the subject becomes me whinging about how shitty I am with women and how I've never been with one.

I saw her after that, but she never saw me.

(ooOOO, Bean got deep) =O

be as cocky as humanly possible and wear your hair down, it looks a hell of alot better, pretend like you don't give a fuck, then ask your female friends to hook you up with someone,

http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/showthread.php?t=292997

Now, I can't say that these guidelines ar any good(since they haven't done me any good), but the ideas seem sound. Only do this if you want to go for the "cool" and "popular" girls, though, since those are the ones with the overinflated egos and the ones who want the asshole. My friend met a girl, and she isn't one of those cool vodka-swilling weed-smoking skater/hippie/etc. chicks you see walking around the mall, she was a bit shier but really a nice girl. And you know what? Now they're going out. So there. Not all girls want cocky or asshole-ish guys, only you can find out by... well, testing them, I guess.

Toothless Joe..how tall are you?? You know that girls will not choose men because of a trait they cant control...

same problem with me joe.

I barely have any guy friends, all of them are girls.

I just say, "hey, lets have sex"

and then my problem is solved.

to the girls.