I try to refine myself, perfect myself for you women. I try to be all you want me to be, in all senses. Whether it be mentally, physically, socially or even emotionally, it never works for you.

You want a man with muscles, yet when I get a sixpack and pecs like the ones on the posters you seem to just drool over, you ignore me more than ever. That one hundred dollar cologne I put on for you everyday, it attracts you to me, but you don't care. Every piece of clothing you thought I looked good in isn't enough for you to get a second glance at me. All the acne products I use, the aftershave, even the sixty dollar razor I bothered to get just so I could look nice for you won't even land me a compliment when I take time out of my busy day never forgetting to remind you how beautiful I think you are. When you tried to get me to come out of my shell and when I finally did, you cared not for my conversations. When I put up with your problems and console you, you can't at least PRETEND to listen to mine! When you wish to be with a sensitive nice guy, and I opened up my heart to you, you took advantage of my vulnerability and stabbed me in the heart by just to date the next jerk you see. Every meaningless comment to me , whether it be "You're hot" or "I wish I could find someone like you", you utter these lies with such humor as though you were only joking. But you were, because no matter how much of an ideal guy I become , you will never love me. Whether you crave for the natural imperfection in everyone of us, or lack thereof, we put on a happy smile to mask the fact that we've spent countless times trying to keep our sanity of how oblivious you can be of us and our actions. All those times you needed something from the store, whether it be the simplest things, like gum, to the most absurd.. tampons. Yet, we willingly went because we cared. And now what? When anyone mentions the mere thought of chemistry between us: "No, no he's just too good for me". TOO GOOD? I spent a good part of my life trying to please you , satisfy your every need and now I'm "too good". Never have you ever done anything for me. No trips to the store for a snack, no helping me find the books I managed to stupidly lose last period.But I can't really be angry at you. It's not in my nature, no matter how much it pisses me off sometimes. But you know what? I deal with it. Why? Because I'm a nice guy. I know it's my fate...my fault...my blessing...my curse...my duty...my choice...my poison...my cure...my hope...my despair.



[This message has been edited by Phaint (edited 12-19-2006).]

You reek of despair, no cologne can hide that

Confidence is something some people just can't make/buy/get...

Don't think confidence is his issue, more like the way he treats them. They're people you know, serving them won't keep them interested

welcome to the club...

I get "You're sweet guy, You a really are. You treat me better than anyone else in my life. And I wish I had the same feelings for you that you have for me, but I dont. I still like my ex"- that being said, her ex is an emo fag who doesnt have the balls to admit he's made a mistake. He gives her "sad and depressed" looks in the hallway.

there have been several times where I want to run the SOB over....

[This message has been edited by vazilizaitsev89 (edited 12-19-2006).]

You sound like a sweet guy.



But in the end, You will prevail. The guys who are handsome and mean are complete jerks, and women do NOT want to be with a jerk.

Maybe you should harden up a bit.



You know, be all that they want, but don't let your girl tell you what to do every second, and take SOME control, aka maybe standing up for yourself.

quote:Originally posted by Pilsu:

Don't think confidence is his issue, more like the way he treats them. They're people you know, serving them won't keep them interested

The reason men let women walk over them, and do whatever they want for them is usually because they aren't confident in their own abiilities so they try and impress a girl with material things, such as money, gifts, etc etc.

Of course, though, he could very much well so be a little turd. ;P

Look at what you just did. You whine about the half of the species that facilitates human reproduction and then combine us all into one "you". A "you" which, by the way, I am not. Actually, there are a few women who aren't that way and you know it.

So the very FIRST thing you must do is lose the victim attitude. "Poor me" is never hott. And stop trying to feed your self-pity by pretending that all women are the same. I would feel like a complete jackass if I ever posted a thread entitled, "MEN ARE PIGS, LEZ 4 ME!!" You know why?

Because I'm not one of those women. I'm not one of those people, who passively sit by and watch life live them. I accept when shit happens and move on. If I sat around feeling bad for myself and and drew my strength from other's affirmations, I would be shit on the street. It's not easy to take recognition with a grain of salt, but you're going to suffer much more in the hands of other people than in your own mind and heart.

You're the kind that spends money on all these bottles of goo and crap so hopefully other people will notice and enjoy. And if they don't well fuck, you just spent your entire paycheck at the Clinique counter. I know there's some satisfaction in feeling spic and span, but when a smile or comment makes the difference between flying high and hell on earth, there's a major esteem issue.

The puppy thing will get you taken advantage of, which is clearly the case. And it will continue to happen. It will happen over and over and over again. You'll find another girl, you'll "fall in love", you'll put all your effort in to please, and you will have it all thrown in your face. Until you learn discretion.

Discretion is the difference between your happiness and the feeling of despair.

Well said hun... Oh, and in case you haven't heard, I had a car accident up in Washington and won't be making the rounds...

Although you did say you were flying into San Fran, right? Maybe we can still meet, more locally? ;D

I had the same problem. I fixed it with a steady benzo addiction and alcohol. Either one will greatly improve your confidence, which you clearly lack. Also, cocaine and amps also work well.

quote:Originally posted by landspeed_presents:

I had the same problem. I fixed it with a steady benzo addiction and alcohol. Either one will greatly improve your confidence, which you clearly lack. Also, cocaine and amps also work well.

Wow, what excellent advice. You're going to an outstanding father one day...

And gus, no I didn't hear (I'm out of the loop and staying so) however, that's still cool 'cause I'll be up on Wednesday. Plans have changed due to Spiff so we'll be there a little longer than expected. We'll figure something out.

Oh, and that totally blows about the car accident. Sorry to hear. I guess better in Washington than Florida!

[This message has been edited by MrMojoRisin (edited 12-19-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

And gus, no I didn't hear (I'm out of the loop and staying so) however, that's still cool 'cause I'll be up on Wednesday. Plans have changed due to Spiff so we'll be there a little longer than expected. We'll figure something out.

Yeah, I've still got my bike, so I'm mobile more or less... Shoot me an e-mail whenever you get a chance, love...

quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

Oh, and that totally blows about the car accident. Sorry to hear. I guess better in Washington than Florida!

Florida doesn't have snow banks to roll your car in... And at least my pop would have been down there... Hehe.... hehe...

Ah well, I've got an interview tomorrow for a job starting at 15$ hopefully. So I'm fine. Really. ;D

Women are inferior, uninteresting, and manipulative. Sorry ladies, but the only reason us guys show any interest in you at all is because when we see you we only see a walking vulva.

It's possible to lead a fulflilling life without them, but it has to be a change in your spirit. Get rid of all that crap you buy to impress girls #1 it doesn't work #2 it doesn't make YOU happy. Girls don't care about your effort or money (well they care about the latter, but not when they are in high school), girls crave drama and trouble, so they will always pick the distant guy over you. Just pray that more Jack the Ripper style serial killers pop up and exterminate as many of them as possible.

A poem by D.H. Lawrence to illustrate your pain and possibly give you some catharsis:

All I Ask

All I ask of a woman is that she shall feel gently towards me

when my heart feels kindly towards her

and there shall be the soft, soft tremor as of unheard bells between us.

It is all I ask.

I am so tired of violent women lashing out and insisting on being loved, when there is no love in them.

quote:Originally posted by VladimirIllyichLenin:

girls crave drama and trouble

QFT!

quote:Originally posted by VladimirIllyichLenin:



girls crave drama and trouble, so they will always pick the distant guy over you.

word

When I had female cats, nothing would wake them up & make them race to the window like the sound of two Toms fighting.

The excitement, the drama!

It should be said that confidence is one of the biggest things for girls, if not #1. For you guys who still haven't got it yet:

Turn on: Confidence, Security, having a spine (isnt afraid to say no)

Turn off: Despair, self-pity, needy , spineless, shyness, insecurity, and making the the fatal (and violently hypocrytical) "Im a nice guy" statement.

Also here is a bonus for some people with nice guy syndrome:

I call it a Maturity Tester

Spend a good time reading this (and the hate mail with point-by-point commentary) http://tinyurl.com/6nxgq

If you are vastly offended or just don't "get" this; then you should really re-evaluate yourself.... that or need a swift kick to the head.

quote:Originally posted by Phaint:

I try to refine myself, perfect myself for you women. I try to be all you want me to be, in all senses. Whether it be mentally, physically, socially or even emotionally, it never works for you.



Translation:

quote:I make myself your bitch.

Yep. That's yer problem right there.

Ha, I like the "10 Reasons" from that site.

It's true too. It's all about control, the challenge, and chase.

Geesh, I think he's got the drama down.

Things like that are only as bad as you make them.

It's all in your head .

Jx

Perhaps you are boring, and you cant hold a conversation well. Pick up an interesting hobby that women will like, such as guitar, singing, or football. Follow current events with celebrities and music, and know a little bit about everything. That way you can keep a conversation going. I dont consider myself ultra attractive. I'm really skinny, but I dress scene/emo, I play guitar, and I can sing, and I have pulled some of the hottest women in the area. Confidence is key in any situation. You can compare confidence with girls to catnip to cats. If you exude confidence, you will drive them crazy, and they will find themselves attracted to you. All that other shit you do is just to fine tune yourself.

This thread rocks. OP, you make yourself a bitch. You will be walked on. I could just restate the same shit that was posted over and over, but yeah, you get the point.

It's just as stupid to try to be a obsequious as it is to try to be a confident, in-control hot shot. Just be yourself, whatever it is. I'm not going to pretend I'm not shy for a girl, but I'm not going to let her walk all over me either. Just... do what comes naturally, and if they don't like it, tough luck.

That said, I'm doing everything I can to make myself perfect for my beloved. But that's voluntary, because she loved me anyway.

You cant always roll with ur technique on all girls, alot of girls all want something different but alot want something similar when it comes to guys. You gotta throwdown accordingly(sounds like you did), and it doesnt always work. I've talked to girls that wanted a guy that i fit 100% by description, and they paid like a minutes worth of time talking to me and that was it. You just got to do work and keep on moving..thats all you can do, dont mope over the idea. Ive been stung before and turned down...your not the only one bro..

quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

Look at what you just did. You whine about the half of the species that facilitates human reproduction and then combine us all into one "you". A "you" which, by the way, I am not. Actually, there are a few women who aren't that way and you know it.

So the very FIRST thing you must do is lose the victim attitude. "Poor me" is never hott. And stop trying to feed your self-pity by pretending that all women are the same. I would feel like a complete jackass if I ever posted a thread entitled, "MEN ARE PIGS, LEZ 4 ME!!" You know why?

Because I'm not one of those women. I'm not one of those people, who passively sit by and watch life live them. I accept when shit happens and move on. If I sat around feeling bad for myself and and drew my strength from other's affirmations, I would be shit on the street. It's not easy to take recognition with a grain of salt, but you're going to suffer much more in the hands of other people than in your own mind and heart.

You're the kind that spends money on all these bottles of goo and crap so hopefully other people will notice and enjoy. And if they don't well fuck, you just spent your entire paycheck at the Clinique counter. I know there's some satisfaction in feeling spic and span, but when a smile or comment makes the difference between flying high and hell on earth, there's a major esteem issue.

The puppy thing will get you taken advantage of, which is clearly the case. And it will continue to happen. It will happen over and over and over again. You'll find another girl, you'll "fall in love", you'll put all your effort in to please, and you will have it all thrown in your face. Until you learn discretion.

Discretion is the difference between your happiness and the feeling of despair.

Wonder how this bitch became moderator, especially in S&A. How does someone with no affection come to govern a forum about it?

I like to generalize.

quote:Originally posted by Phaint:

Wonder how this bitch became moderator, especially in S&A. How does someone with no affection come to govern a forum about it?

No affection? Are you blind, or just stupid?

She's got more affection than you might understand, because unlike a teenager, she doesn't just dump it on everything with a cock.

Shut the fuck up and don't talk shit about Mojo. Seriously now, you'd think that you would know one of the basic rules like that.

quote:Originally posted by Pilsu:

You reek of despair, no cologne can hide that

Ahahaha. I'm stealing that... you don't mind, do ya?

Get paid, get laid.