Adam:

I really don't get why people talk to their exes...someone royally fucks you over, made/makes you feel like shit...what's the purpose of continuing a relationship of any sort with them?

Venessa:

i dont know. forgiveness? whatever though its not like id ever talk to richard again.

Venessa:

hes going to europe or asia or something cus hes in the army now i guess. hes probably going to die. oh well

Adam:

Eh, I suppose I don't understand platonic relations between men and women. I barely understand platonic relations between men and men...and I'm pretty sure those only exist out of raw homophobia.

Venessa:

whats platonic mean?

Adam:

In this context, non-physical.

Venessa:

yeah you are probably right

Venessa:

men to women platonic relationships can be confusing as hell.

Adam:

Well, that's because they don't exist.

Adam:

I guarantee you every male friend you have has masturbated to the thought of fucking you at least once a month.

Venessa:

what?

Adam:

lol...men are incapable of platonic relationships with women unless they are gay.

Venessa:

i doubt men think of me while they masturbate

Venessa:

creepy.

Adam:

Haha...sure



Venessa:

you are my boyfriend adam

Venessa:

you might

Venessa:

but i doubt my other guyfriends do

Venessa:

cept rob but thats cus hes like obcessed with me for some reason. ok well likes me alot and i dont know why

Adam:

No. See, I care about you in a deeper sense than a male/female friendship can reach: I respect you too much to put you into my masturbation fantasies.

Adam:

Hell, I felt bad calling you a whore, bitch, ect. WHILE FUCKING YOU.

Venessa:

didnt seem like it to me.

Venessa:

but okay. i beleive you.

Adam:

I enjoyed it...because I'm a sexually dominant critter, but I also felt bad about it because I hold a respect for your sexuality and being.

Venessa:

thats good.

Adam:

In a male/female friendship, the male doesn't get to know the female's sexuality, thus no real respect for it can exist, but merely imitation respect (aka, acting...trust me, they still want to fuck your brains out); masturbating while thinking of you would come naturally to any male that you impact enough for him to remember what you look like.

Venessa:

haha

Venessa:

i dont want to hear this

Adam:

Hell, I bet there are a few of your male friends who've masturbated to the thought of torturing and raping you.

Adam:

Alright, I'll stop.

Venessa:

omg

Adam:

But just to let you know, it's true.

Adam:

Sorry if that last one grossed you out.

Venessa:

...um yeah

Adam:

Just be glad they keep it in the realm of fantasy?

Adam:

...hmmm. Didn't mean to disgust you...I guess being a guy, I think those types of fantasy are pretty kosher, considering the level of shamelessness I hold.

Venessa:

...sure..

Venessa:

yep...yep...

Adam:

Mine would probably scare you away for a day or two, possibly/probably even break us up.

Venessa:

what?

Venessa:

why?

Adam:

Because they are vile, disgusting, perverted, and heavily illegal.

Adam:

...and my guess is that you'd somehow think they reflect on my character.

Did I go over my bounds in this conversation?



[This message has been edited by Hexadecimal (edited 12-18-2006).]

Yes, you did. At least, if you want to KEEP her, man...

Pretty intense man, she was obviously freaked out.

maaybe a lil with the fantasy shit at the end but otherwise nope.

I believe in honesty (complete) in a relationship, there is this girl and i love her so much, but i had done something that could maybe break us up i would still tell her. i cannot hold anything from her, i have tried once... it never lasted long...

just keep fantasies where they belong, in your head!

quote:Originally posted by nau06248:

I believe in honesty (complete) in a relationship[...]

There is a MAJOR difference between honesty, and saying far too much.

The MAJOR difference is being honest usually means it's something that she NEEDS to know. This though, she could have gone her entire life and been happier never knowing.

Man, I wish you the best of luck, my friend.

yeah i guess you are right.

The way i am on msn i woulda probably said the shit about other guyss wanking over her... but not the last bit!

Do women not realise that the get wanked over?!

Why are you with such a stupid girl?

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Why are you with such a stupid girl?

how the hell can you tell this girl is stupid, go and take some time to think of a useful responce...

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Why are you with such a stupid girl?

I've known her for several years, and she is far from stupid. Nerved and paranoid? Yes. Stupid? Fuck no.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

I've known her for several years, and she is far from stupid. Nerved and paranoid? Yes. Stupid? Fuck no.

She's ignorant of the way of normal men, as are most women. Sadly, though, when you show them how those men really are, they have a bad habit of both being disgusted and sickened by what they learn, and afraid of how closely related they are.

Women do the same thing. Not all women ,but then again, I've got female friends I wouldn't care to masturbate over. Or have sex with, for that matter...

Well done, give that cunt a dose of reality.

quote:Originally posted by nau06248:

how the hell can you tell this girl is stupid, go and take some time to think of a useful responce...



quote:

whats platonic mean?



quote:

i doubt men think of me while they masturbate



quote:

cept rob but thats cus hes like obcessed with me for some reason. ok well likes me alot and i dont know why



quote:

but okay. i beleive you.



Also, through most of the conversation you're talking about subjects that require at least some brain power, and all she is saying is, "yeah, what, omg, creepy".

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Yes, you did. At least, if you want to KEEP her, man...



Oh come on; she told me the truth about women...she can handle hearing the truth about men.

quote:Originally posted by Rizzo in a box:

Also, through most of the conversation you're talking about subjects that require at least some brain power, and all she is saying is, "yeah, what, omg, creepy".

She's on pharms. Those would make Steven Hawkings about as mentally adapt as Micky Rooney.

you definitely went overboard, but that's only because she's closeminded. you want to think she isn't, but she is. if she likes you a lot she'll give you the benefit of the doubt and dismiss/deny the conversation. interesting. you deny her closemindedness, and she denies your shameless vulgarity. sorry if that analysis sounded harsh; i hope you know i like you from what i've seen of your posts thus far.

edit - well, maybe she was just on autopilot and was saying what she thought you expected to hear.

[This message has been edited by lauren7249 (edited 12-18-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Rocko:

Well done, give that cunt a dose of reality.

Haha, I lolled because I'm drunk..

It's really true though. People are too afraid of the truth.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Oh come on; she told me the truth about women...she can handle hearing the truth about men.

you pretty much told her you have fantasies about rape, and much worse.

maybe you should explain to her the difference, in your eyes, between a fantasy and what you actually WISH to do. (assuming there is a difference.) if she understands you aren't actually interested in raping/beating anyone, but just that it gets your rocks off, then maybe she'll be relieved.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

She's on pharms. Those would make Steven Hawkings about as mentally adapt as Micky Rooney.

That means nothing. "Pharms"? What exactly? Opiates? Benzos? Speed? What?

If it was benzos, I could understand the piss poor typing, but if she was that fucked up she wouldn't care that people are fucked up.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

you definitely went overboard, but that's only because she's closeminded. you want to think she isn't, but she is. if she likes you a lot she'll give you the benefit of the doubt and dismiss/deny the conversation. interesting. you deny her closemindedness, and she denies your shameless vulgarity. sorry if that analysis sounded harsh; i hope you know i like you from what i've seen of your posts thus far.

edit - well, maybe she was just on autopilot and was saying what she thought you expected to hear.



She's certainly not as open-minded as me or most other totseans, for that matter...but she's a lot more open than this one conversation suggests. I think she's just in denial of how vulgar her male friends can be.

PirateJoe:

She's fine with the fantasy aspect of me (this isn't the whole conversation)...I just don't think she quite likes the idea of her male 'friends' (vultures) masturbating to the idea of raping her.

Rizzo: anti-psychotics, benzos, anti-depressants, and anti-seizure...she's fairly drugged up.

You're average girl isn't going to be open minded enough to accept that thought. She will continue to deny and dismiss it. Don't bring it up again unless you have to, she don't wanna know.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

anti-psychotics, benzos, anti-depressants, and anti-seizure...she's fairly drugged up.

You lucky dog

Hehe, I would be if I did anything other than weed anymore...and I've only done that once since I got out of rehab; 4 months sober now.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Adam:

No. See, I care about you in a deeper sense than a male/female friendship can reach: I respect you too much to put you into my masturbation fantasies.

I have a female friend like this. Well, she's more than just a friend. But it's a non-sexual relationship, and I don't masturbate to her.

Although yeah... most guys will masturbate to most girls they know, at some point.