I have a problem with manipulating the girls that like me or that I choose to date.

I act totally fake to them, and I know that I do this, and even dislike the fact that I do this and try to break it off with the girl.

but when you try to say you arent right for them it like, makes them want you more.

Whenever I find out a girl is interested in me I almost treat it like a game. slowly gaining power in the relationship, then pushing the limits to see how much shit I could get away with ( like cheating on them ) until I get bored or they get fed up.

This is really not what I mean to do, but it seems that every girl I meet is so fucking dumb, and when I find one that I actually think is smart and has some backbone, they show me the real them and I take advantage.

I dont know If I should take classes in psycology or turn homosexual.

Somebody show me why I should respect women.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

Somebody show me why I should respect women.

don't bother learning, you're obviously too far gone.

just do this.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

turn homosexual.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

I have a problem with manipulating the girls that like me or that I choose to date.

I act totally fake to them, and I know that I do this, and even dislike the fact that I do this and try to break it off with the girl.

but when you try to say you arent right for them it like, makes them want you more.

Whenever I find out a girl is interested in me I almost treat it like a game. slowly gaining power in the relationship, then pushing the limits to see how much shit I could get away with ( like cheating on them ) until I get bored or they get fed up.

This is really not what I mean to do, but it seems that every girl I meet is so fucking dumb, and when I find one that I actually think is smart and has some backbone, they show me the real them and I take advantage.

I dont know If I should take classes in psycology or turn homosexual.

Somebody show me why I should respect women.

Most people attempt to trust (thus are easy to manipulate); manipulation is not a skill, a strength, or a talent - it does not take advantage of a weakness, but creates one in the manipulator: this is going to turn around and bite your fucking head off if you don't stop.

You are a fool for thinking trust to be a weakness and paranoia to be a strength.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:



Somebody show me why I should respect women.

Haha you shouldn't. If they are going to fall for you're 'game', then they don't deserve your respect.

But when you find one that has morals, a back bone, and all that good stuff, then you better be good to her.

"love is giving someone the ability to hurt you, and hoping that they dont" (quote: my ex-gf)

stop doing it, or just be a jerk-off for all i care

-Kman101

quote:Originally posted by Chinese Food52:

Haha you shouldn't. If they are going to fall for you're 'game', then they don't deserve your respect.

But when you find one that has morals, a back bone, and all that good stuff, then you better be good to her.



Since when was lying 'game'?

quote:Originally posted by kman101:

"love is giving someone the ability to hurt you, and hoping that they dont" (quote: my ex-gf)

stop doing it, or just be a jerk-off for all i care

-Kman101

haha your ex-girlfriend didn't make up that quote dude.

edit: didn't mean that as bitchy as it sounded.

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quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

I have a problem with manipulating the girls that like me or that I choose to date.

I act totally fake to them, and I know that I do this, and even dislike the fact that I do this and try to break it off with the girl.

but when you try to say you arent right for them it like, makes them want you more.

Whenever I find out a girl is interested in me I almost treat it like a game. slowly gaining power in the relationship, then pushing the limits to see how much shit I could get away with ( like cheating on them ) until I get bored or they get fed up.

This is really not what I mean to do, but it seems that every girl I meet is so fucking dumb, and when I find one that I actually think is smart and has some backbone, they show me the real them and I take advantage.

I dont know If I should take classes in psycology or turn homosexual.

Somebody show me why I should respect women.

I'm the same. Women are so fucking stupid, and the ones who aren't are really clingy; don't feel guilty about it. They're just as manipulative and play head games with weak guys all the time. We have a gift that can offer infinite pleasure. Until you find the one woman that's actually decent and you truly love keep manipulating them, having fun and screwing around.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Most people attempt to trust (thus are easy to manipulate); manipulation is not a skill, a strength, or a talent - it does not take advantage of a weakness, but creates one in the manipulator: this is going to turn around and bite your fucking head off if you don't stop.

You are a fool for thinking trust to be a weakness and paranoia to be a strength.

Wrong. Getting people to trust and like you is a sociological atform. Just because you fail at it doesn't mean you have to knock it. If this (http://tinyurl.com/yfll4q) counts as art then manipulation is aswell.



[This message has been edited by Trapped In A Box (edited 12-02-2006).]

Let me explain to you two morons why this is going to bite your balls off:

You're going to meet a girl who is smart, kind, compassionate, good-looking, etc (a dream girl, pretty much). She is going to be cautious at first...you two, having your heads thoroughly up your ass, are going to interpret this as 'backbone'...when she's really just trying to avoid your type.

After she's been cautious long enough, you are going to fall for her FIRST because you think you've finally found the girl for you! After she sees that you're falling for her, she's going to drop her guard and lose her 'backbone' (which just happens to be the main thing you thought you loved in her). You're going to manipulate her, you're going to lose her, and she's going to hate you. After you've lost her, you're going to realize that you really did love her...not just her 'backbone', and that you've fucked up an amazing chance at love.

Sad thing is, it doesn't work like the movies where you just wait a couple weeks then patch things up: when a woman hates you for betraying her, she hates you for a LONG time.

How do I know this? I used to think lying was game...and don't mistake me; any deception is a lie...hiding parts of the truth to twist her perception, fabrications to create a false 'you', contradictions of the truth to hide the real 'you'...all lies. All pathetic attempts to stop yourself from taking a risk that you can't really stop with anything other than death.

You know what true game is, children? Expressing your sexuality and personality until you're both comfortable enough to show your weakness...THAT is game.

quote:Originally posted by Trapped In A Box:

Wrong. Getting people to trust and like you is a sociological artfrom. Just because you fail at it doesn't mean you have to knock it.



Thats some great adivce right there.

Wrong. Getting people to trust and like you is a sociological artfrom. Just because you fail at it doesn't mean you have to knock it.

*buzz* Fail. All it takes to gain trust is consistent honesty. Trust doesn't guarantee they will fall for you, but at minimum, it guarantees a degree of respect.

Getting someone to like you is as simple as picking up on the little quarks in their personality and utilizing them in flirting - combining sexuality and personality into one activity.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Since when was lying 'game'?

???

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

haha your ex-girlfriend didn't make up that quote dude.

edit: didn't mean that as bitchy as it sounded.



"sigh" yeah, i know...i just didnt know who did make it up, and she was the one who told me it, so eh? and, dont worry...ive heard bitchier

Haha, look at this thread... I should have seen it earlier! First off don't listen to YouLookFourteen nor Hexadecimal. Or most anyone else that's just going to bitch at you. They don't understand that there are so many women out there that are just fucking stupid and fall for the easiest of manipulational tricks. Really, they're stuck in some dream world where women are all smart and only evil men do this. Hah.

Alrighty then, there is NO reason you should respect the type of women you're meeting.

There are women out there that are respectable. A lot, actually. But though, they're not the type of women that are so easy to manipulate.

They're strong, and won't let their minds be fucked with so easily.

Really now, enjoy toying with women while you have the chance. Soon enough, you'll find the girl that doesn't fall to your knees, and you'll fall in love.

When that day comes, you'll understand why you aren't gay.

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Really now, enjoy toying with women while you have the chance. Soon enough, you'll find the girl that doesn't fall to your knees, and you'll fall in love.

When that day comes, you'll understand why you aren't gay.

That is so sweet! In a weird sort of way.

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

That is so sweet! In a weird sort of way.

It's true, though. While it might be weird, when a man finally meets a woman that won't fall into his traps and games as per all of the rest, he'll instantly become attracted to her more than he would have been if she did just fall into his trap.

In fact, though, he'll become obsessed with her I'd be sure. It'd be like trying to hunt down a certain animal, and it keeps on jjjust slipping away. JUST BY A HAIR.

Ah yeah, though, there are a lot of women like this, though. He'll find one, fall for her, and they'll be happy together. She'll have as much power as he'll have because of how the relationship will be automatically balanced...

It's actually rather romantic... In a sort of fucked up way... Heh...

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

It's actually rather romantic... In a sort of fucked up way... Heh...

Yes, it is.

I wish I was that wise at your age. It sure could have saved me some troubles.

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

Yes, it is.

I wish I was that wise at your age. It sure could have saved me some troubles.

Ah yeah, it's saved me a whole lifetime of trouble. But though, it's also made me cold, and feel misplaced in time and space.

Life goes on...

Yeah...take Gus' word for not listening to me...

You all live in a delusional world if you think a relationship based on hiding your weak little self is going to last. You think there exists a single strong person on this planet? You think wrong. We're all fragile little creatures, whether we show it or not. Being callous to new pains does nothing but slow the catharsis of past scars and prevent your growth as a person. Such worms to find no appreciation for those brave enough to trust again...

Enjoy the shattering of each newfound love you boys find.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Yeah...take Gus' word for not listening to me...

Glad you can agree, friend!

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Yeah...take Gus' word for not listening to me...

You all live in a delusional world if you think a relationship based on hiding your weak little self is going to last. You think there exists a single strong person on this planet? You think wrong. We're all fragile little creatures, whether we show it or not. Being callous to new pains does nothing but slow the catharsis of past scars and prevent your growth as a person. Such worms to find no appreciation for those brave enough to trust again...

Enjoy the shattering of each newfound love you boys find.

You don't get laid much, do you?

PS Women don't want to respect you, they want to be attracted to you and be fucked like the dirty whores they are.

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quote:Originally posted by Trapped In A Box:

You don't get laid much, do you?

PS Women don't want to respect you, they want to be attracted to you and be fucked like the dirty whores they are.



Sadly that's what most girls want. Although there are still that rather decent number of women that actually want respect, and live beyond their own faults.

Of course, though, those girls end up being in relationships more often than not.

quote:Originally posted by Trapped In A Box:

You don't get laid much, do you?

PS Women don't want to respect you, they want to be attracted to you and be fucked like the dirty whores they are.



Most every day, sometimes multiple times per day. Either I have blind luck to have kept this up, or I'm doing something right. You don't have to do anything low or manipulative to get lots of ass, or to attract a woman, or keep a good one around. ALL you have to do is know your own sexuality and personality and wear it without shame.

To get a woman's heart, and to get her pants off, you don't have to play games; you don't have to treat a woman like a whore; you don't have to do shit other than be yourself. Though I suppose if you spend your days manipulating women for a piece of ass, you haven't done much soul-searching to figure out your sexuality or personality.

Again, I shall say, enjoy your shattering loves. Know this though: avoiding pain increases it tenfold when it finally finds you.

You boys think you're strong? Strength isn't avoiding pain, it's enduring and overcoming it.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

You boys think you're strong? Strength isn't avoiding pain, it's enduring and overcoming it.

Yeah, you're right. It's wisdom to avoid needing the strength to overcome pain. So enjoy putting yourself through such painful and useless situations.

We'll enjoy taking the higher road of wisdom, friend.

You shouldnt. Send them back to the kitchen!

You haven't met me.

There are girls who just want sex. That's fine, as long as they aren't completely disgusting. There are girls who you can't manipulate, and they want a relationship. Those, I'd assume, are the best. I wouldn't know, I don't date girls. Then there are the girls you can manipulate to get into bed. Those are the ones to avoid, because they're fucking dumb.

quote:Originally posted by firekitty751:

You haven't met me.

There are girls who just want sex. That's fine, as long as they aren't completely disgusting. There are girls who you can't manipulate, and they want a relationship. Those, I'd assume, are the best. I wouldn't know, I don't date girls. Then there are the girls you can manipulate to get into bed. Those are the ones to avoid, because they're fucking dumb.

Jill, you confim exactly what I say, and with suck beauty and grace! </hitting on>

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Yeah, you're right. It's wisdom to avoid needing the strength to overcome pain. So enjoy putting yourself through such painful and useless situations.

We'll enjoy taking the higher road of wisdom, friend.

No Gus; it's wisdom to know that anything worth having requires diligence and the temporary loss of comfort. It's cowardice to avoid the pain that comes with building a solid foundation for one's life; it is not wisdom.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

No Gus; it's wisdom to know that anything worth having requires diligence and the temporary loss of comfort. It's cowardice to avoid the pain that comes with building a solid foundation for one's life; it is not wisdom.

No words are more true than these from my childhood: "I'd rather be an alive chicken than a dead fool."

A great reason I don't ride rollercoasters; I've yet to see them giving me more than they could dare-so take.

Here's something I remember reading when I was 8, I belief a USAF pilot said this: I'd rather die from living my dream than die of old age in the safety of a mediocre life.

quote:Originally posted by Gus:



A great reason I don't ride rollercoasters; I've yet to see them giving me more than they could dare-so take.

But roller coasters are oh so fun!!

quote:Originally posted by firekitty751:

But roller coasters are oh so fun!!

HAH! Feeling like you're about to die ISN'T fun!!

Now, spending a sunset under a blanket without a care in the world is fun. Riding faster than twice the speed limit is fun. Trying to see if your toes can touch the back of your head is fun!

~~~

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Here's something I remember reading when I was 8, I belief a USAF pilot said this: I'd rather die from living my dream than die of old age in the safety of a mediocre life.

And thankfully my dream has NOTHING to do with uselessly getting hurt.

Win/win I say!

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It's not jus girls. You can do it to anyone. Even when they think their playing me I know it and I can play along in my favour. It's just funny. Stupid people.

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that you're a rather spoiled bunch?

You all act like the world owes you something...

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Alrighty then, there is NO reason you should respect the type of women you're meeting.

That's stupid. Being trusting is a flaw, now? Being a kind person and assuming others are as well? Sure, perhaps they're blind to the cynical reality, but that doesn't mean they're an unworthy person. The only people worthy of pain are those who would cause it - not the weak, not the trusting. It isn't their fault.

It's not easy to see you're being manipulated. Telling lies from the truth is impossible if the person is a good liar. You're saying someone who falls for an obviously charming man is deserving of what they get, as if they could instantly tell he's a scumbag. I suppose it's a rape victim's fault for dressing provocatively too, eh? Or a child's fault for believing the nice man with candy is really a nice man with candy?

Being naive isn't a crime, and nor does it deserve the payment you seem to be saying it does. It's sad that someone who has high hopes is seen as being "stuck in a dream world" and worth nothing except manipulation.

Intelligence is not decided by how easily you resist manipulation, either. Someone's not stupid because they fall for Prince Charming. They could be the greatest math mind of the century, or the most incredible writer, or what-have you. Against a good manipulator, the only ones who can resist are those who shut themselves off completely to things like hope and trust; people so cynical and ass-backwards that there's no way to gain their affection except by showing a "backbone" - i.e., by being just as cynical and bitter. And even that's quite easy to fake.

I think it takes much more strength to continue to trust in an untrustworthy world than it does to become a bitter, paranoid manipulator. I'm disgusted that anyone could condone the causing of pain and the playing of games with others.

quote:It's true, though. While it might be weird, when a man finally meets a woman that won't fall into his traps and games as per all of the rest, he'll instantly become attracted to her more than he would have been if she did just fall into his trap.

In fact, though, he'll become obsessed with her I'd be sure. It'd be like trying to hunt down a certain animal, and it keeps on jjjust slipping away. JUST BY A HAIR.

Ah yeah, though, there are a lot of women like this, though. He'll find one, fall for her, and they'll be happy together. She'll have as much power as he'll have because of how the relationship will be automatically balanced...

What the fuck kind of masochistic bullshit is this? If someone wants me to chase them, I lose interest. Either they like me, or they don't. Fuck these games. It's just yet another type of manipulation.

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It's okay to lie to women. They're not people like us.

Empty efforts of indulgence and selfishness such as manipulating girls do nothing for your true well being.

In order to have true love you must selflessly search for something(love/the person who you will love) while avoiding selfishly abusing it.Manipulation, maltreatment, neglect and such all stem from selfishness that must be sacrificed for true harmony, sanctity, and true love. It is the greatest microcosm of all of life and its purpose.

Manipulation doesnt get you anywhere in terms of who you want to be loving for the rest of your life. At most like any action it will give you experience to deal with problems. Thats why I think Gus was right and everybody goes through a "fooling around" kind of stage.

But remember, not giving of your self, not putting your heart out there for someone youre engaged with...well that just plain selfish and wrong.

quote:Originally posted by oc6:

Yes, it is.

I wish I was that wise at your age. It sure could have saved me some troubles.

He's like the philosopher eunuchs of the ol' Orient.

When you don't get laid, theres lots to think about.

=D

The reason you shouldn't do that is simply because it's immoral. Just 'cuz they're stupid doesn't mean they're not entitled to human dignity and happiness. I've dated stupid people, and I've dated incredibly intelligent people. And guess what--intelligent people get manipulated to. Just because they're capable of being manipulated doesn't mean they couldn't make you incredibly happy. Plus, you leave the broken bits for people like me to clean up and that's not cool.

Yeah, intelligence isn't a measure of worth. The only reason it's worth anything at all is that it can be helpful in the pursuit of happiness... but slow people can be happy, too. Gus is, or was, overweight; people like to make fun of fat people and say they're not deserving of respect. Few value a fat person... but it really has no impact on what kind of person you are. I'm a little surprised Gus could be so callous to the "weaknesses" of others when he himself isn't exactly the model of a perfect man.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Yeah, intelligence isn't a measure of worth. The only reason it's worth anything at all is that it can be helpful in the pursuit of happiness... but slow people can be happy, too. Gus is, or was, overweight; people like to make fun of fat people and say they're not deserving of respect. Few value a fat person... but it really has no impact on what kind of person you are. I'm a little surprised Gus could be so callous to the "weaknesses" of others when he himself isn't exactly the model of a perfect man.

The difference is, though, I'm getting into shape, and understand that it's something I NEED to do.

Stupid people, though, don't care and never try and change. If they tried to change, they wouldn't be stupid.

Now though, if a girl is so easy or so stupid as to fall into your trap, then who gives a fuck what happens to her? It's not like you need to worry about anyone else on this planet. Just yourself.

Anyone else that tells you otherwise obviously hasn't grown up, because this isn't even near a good world anymore.

Do what you must to survive and enjoy life, because that's what everyone else is going to do. :\

Oh, and have fun in Lala-land with some stupid woman that you'll divorce in a few years.

Damn Gus, has the heart inside you already become so cold? You sound like a 50 year old alcoholic!

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Damn Gus, has the heart inside you already become so cold? You sound like a 50 year old alcoholic!

Ah yeah, I guess it has...

I understand the world we live well enough to know that if you want to survive, you have to think only of yourself.

If you somehow have time left over to think of someone else, you obviously aren't thinking of yourself hard enough.

People need to stop wasting their time worrying about some girl. They rather should be wasting their time on their own lives.

Which isn't to say that I do exactly what I say all of the time. Hell, if I could do exactly as I say, I'd be so far out of so much trouble. It's sad, but even us robots have emotions. ;(

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

The difference is, though, I'm getting into shape, and understand that it's something I NEED to do.

No, it isn't. Who cares if you're overweight? Who decides what "overweight" is, anyway? Used to be that people called "heavyset" now were considered handsome. If you're so fat that you can't walk, sure you need to change, but that's only in excessive cases.

quote:Now though, if a girl is so easy or so stupid as to fall into your trap, then who gives a fuck what happens to her?

I do. Gullibility isn't a measure of worth. I'm sure you've fallen for some trick in your life; do you deserve cruelty for it?

I don't think anything, besides self-defense, can justify hurting someone.

quote:It's not like you need to worry about anyone else on this planet. Just yourself.

Anyone else that tells you otherwise obviously hasn't grown up, because this isn't even near a good world anymore.

It's not a good world because of people who think like that. If more people were brave enough to be kind, it wouldn't be so hard to be kind.

quote:Do what you must to survive and enjoy life, because that's what everyone else is going to do. :\

My behavior isn't decided by others... and if you think that you have to be cold and callous to enjoy life, then... well, I'm a little sorry for you. It's perfectly possible to be a loving person and have a good life. Indeed, I'd consider myself a successful and happy person; but I try to make others happy, too. It's not mutually exclusive.

I agree that, if it comes down to you or them, you have a responsibility to yourself to try to survive... but cruelty with no purpose other than your enjoyment is something else entirely.

quote:Oh, and have fun in Lala-land with some stupid woman that you'll divorce in a few years.

I wouldn't marry someone not up to my intellectual standards, but that doesn't mean I have to use them...

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Ah yeah, I guess it has...

I understand the world we live well enough to know that if you want to survive, you have to think only of yourself.

It seems that way because of people like yourself. I heard that selfish people tend to think of everyone else as being as selfish as they are, and selfless people the opposite. The truth of the matter, though, is probably somewhere between the two extremes: both selfishness and selflessness have their place. Sure, if you think of yourself first you'll probably do well; but, contrary to what you say elsewhere in your post, it's not impossible to be both kind and successful. In fact, I find it downright easy.

Note that success is defined by your own self - I define it as being happy and making other people so.

In the context of this thread, though, your philosophy doesn't work too well... because the manipulation of hapless girls takes away time and energy from more productive tasks. It's not helping you at all, and the OP seems to state that it doesn't provide him with pleasure either.

quote:It's sad, but even us robots have emotions. ;(

*points at profile* ;D

Edit: I'm not a saint. I put myself first... I just don't cause needless suffering. I help people if the help I give them will provide more happiness to them than inconvience to me. I don't expect people to give all of their money to the poor or something; I do expect people to be kind and generous within reason. Cruelty is abhorrent to me... anyone who goes out of their way to stomp on others deserves stomping themselves.

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quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

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quote:Originally posted by Gus:

Ah yeah, I guess it has...

I understand the world we live well enough to know that if you want to survive, you have to think only of yourself.

If you somehow have time left over to think of someone else, you obviously aren't thinking of yourself hard enough.

People need to stop wasting their time worrying about some girl. They rather should be wasting their time on their own lives.

Which isn't to say that I do exactly what I say all of the time. Hell, if I could do exactly as I say, I'd be so far out of so much trouble. It's sad, but even us robots have emotions. ;(

Gus, if you want to not only survive, but enjoy your survival, you look out for yourself and anyone who works towards your benefit. Being alive is fine and dandy...but being alive with a group of mutually trusting friends is better...and it's astounding to have the boon of a mutually trusting relationship with a loving woman.

Here's something I learned a few months back that has helped me tremendously: It's okay to be selfish if it helps others.

Say, for example , I'm a broke ass drug addict. Now, I could continue to help people in ways such as lending an ear to their worries and such...but if, for myself, I clean up and make some money, I'm capable of not only listening, but advising them on matters I've overcome, lending money to those in need, helping friends who've fallen behind in life, providing connections in the legal arena, and so on.

So long as you don't lose the spirit of empathy, you can easily look out for yourself ALONG with carrying those you care about, and care about you, up with ya.

This world is dog-eat-dog, but you don't have to be a dog.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

This world is dog-eat-dog, but you don't have to be a dog.

Yeah, you could be a pussy that ends up getting fucked and becoming sour... I'll stick with being a dog, man.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:



Somebody show me why I should respect women.

because they are the mothers of our children.

AND

they have boobs, and are usually good cooks.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Most people attempt to trust (thus are easy to manipulate); manipulation is not a skill, a strength, or a talent - it does not take advantage of a weakness, but creates one in the manipulator: this is going to turn around and bite your fucking head off if you don't stop.

You are a fool for thinking trust to be a weakness and paranoia to be a strength.



mmm....QFT. hexadecimal, we hold a lot of the same beliefs.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Let me explain to you two morons why this is going to bite your balls off:

You're going to meet a girl who is smart, kind, compassionate, good-looking, etc (a dream girl, pretty much). She is going to be cautious at first...you two, having your heads thoroughly up your ass, are going to interpret this as 'backbone'...when she's really just trying to avoid your type.

After she's been cautious long enough, you are going to fall for her FIRST because you think you've finally found the girl for you! After she sees that you're falling for her, she's going to drop her guard and lose her 'backbone' (which just happens to be the main thing you thought you loved in her). You're going to manipulate her, you're going to lose her, and she's going to hate you. After you've lost her, you're going to realize that you really did love her...not just her 'backbone', and that you've fucked up an amazing chance at love.

Sad thing is, it doesn't work like the movies where you just wait a couple weeks then patch things up: when a woman hates you for betraying her, she hates you for a LONG time.

How do I know this? I used to think lying was game...and don't mistake me; any deception is a lie...hiding parts of the truth to twist her perception, fabrications to create a false 'you', contradictions of the truth to hide the real 'you'...all lies. All pathetic attempts to stop yourself from taking a risk that you can't really stop with anything other than death.

You know what true game is, children? Expressing your sexuality and personality until you're both comfortable enough to show your weakness...THAT is game.



QFT....yet again. if you keep posting, i'll never have to utter another word in these forums.

manipulation can completely destroy people, depending on how far you take it.



and if you can't get girls being honest and showing your true self, you don't deserve them anyway. because every half-decent guy who is honest can get a girl.

quote:Originally posted by Gus:

No words are more true than these from my childhood: "I'd rather be an alive chicken than a dead fool."

That's a bunch of bullshit. I always live knowing that if I were to "die" I'd have gone down swinging. Being a chicken is the lowest thing in life, even below the fool, for at least the fool has guts (or fake guts masqueraded by stupidity) and he will finish life ahead of the chicken.

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

Somebody show me why I should respect women.

don't bother learning, you're obviously too far gone.

just do this.

quote:Originally posted by SlipperyPete:

turn homosexual.

QFT.

The stupid girls you're manipulating are girls, not women.

Any proper, intelligent women wouldn't look at the OP twice. That's what intelligence is, realising that you're just manipulative. The thing is, you keep bragging about manipulating stupid girls, that's like bragin about beating up a paraplegic midget.

Hands down, some of the girls on this board, or my ex, would rip you a new hole.