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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2006-11-12, 02:22
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Sick_Boy 
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My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Long version:
So yesterday was my birthday. I went shopping with my mom and sister, while my boyfriend went out for drinks with his friends. Since it was my birthday, I obviously want to spend it with my boyfriend. I couldn't get a hold of him until about 8, at which point he sends me about 15 texts begging me to come get him because he doesn't want to hang out with his friends anymore.
It turns out that his friends stole his phone and were ripping on him every time I called/texted. I left 2 voicemails (which said something along the lines of "answer your goddamn phone, or call me back") as well as 2 texts, the first one said "where are you?" and the second said "don't ditch me on my birthday  "
So this makes me look like the annoying clingy girlfriend, when in reality, if they had just let him answer the phone we could have had a quick conversation about when we could meet up.
His one friend is especially an asshole. All he does is make fun of people. He was even laughing in my best friend's face because he's gay.
Basically, I'm just asking for advice on how to deal with these guys. They wont even give me a chance, so what am I supposed to do? Fall into the annoying girlfriend role they seem to have cast me in? Argh, I'm so frustrated.
Short version:
My boyfriend's friends are assholes and I don't know how to deal with them.
Also, I should add my boyfriend actually told his friend that he hated him, and his friend replied:
"Well, everyone has that friend that the hate, and I'm yours!"
So I'm guessing he doesn't have a problem with the fact that he's a complete cunt.
Grrrr.
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#2
 2006-11-12, 02:35
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Henry the VIII 
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Do your best to ignore them.
Guys will be guys and complaints, no matter how well reasoned will on spur them on.
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#3
 2006-11-12, 02:48
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Does he know the only thing you do on the internet is talk about him?
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#4
 2006-11-12, 03:02
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
1. HAPPY BIRTHDAY
2. Hmmmm. I know I'm a guy and all, but I can't really relate to this. My friends aren't convicts and don't do lame things like steal my phone. And I think as your boyfriend he should've made more of an effort to be there on your special day. At the end of the day, I think there's no point blaming his friends as I think it's his responsiblity to make sure this shit doesn't happen.
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#5
 2006-11-12, 03:04
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
*meanders into thread*
*takes a sip of gin*
*meanders out*
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#6
 2006-11-12, 03:08
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Sounds like your boyfriend is a pussy. I mean it, what guy hangs out with another guy that they hate? You cut that dumbshit off, and threaten violence if he presses you.
Tell your boyfriend to grow a spine and stand up for himself.
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#7
 2006-11-12, 03:08
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Andreas:
*meanders into thread*
*takes a sip of gin*
*meanders out*
Ugh, gin wasn't mean to be had straight.
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#8
 2006-11-12, 03:09
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Christ, they are assholes.
Ignoring them might work for a bit, but if you guys are serious (which I gather from your various posts you are), but sooner or later you'll have to deal with them. I don't really know what to say on that note, except that from the looks of things it'll probably come down to them either at least tolerating you or else just fucking off.
Happy birthday, by the way!
*EDIT*
Have his friends ever pulled anything like this before? I mean sometimes us guys just get carried away when we start fucking around. Or they could just be a bunch of AIDS-bait sons of bitches. Take your pick.
[This message has been edited by slave83b (edited 11-12-2006).]
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#9
 2006-11-12, 03:10
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
I think they are pissed he got a girlfriend and they don't.
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#10
 2006-11-12, 03:12
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
put on a strap-on and rape those motherfuckers 
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#11
 2006-11-12, 03:14
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by DiStOrTiOn:
put on a strap-on and rape those motherfuckers
Ignore my previous post and do this.
Then rape me.
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#12
 2006-11-12, 03:18
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Psionicist:
Ugh, gin wasn't mean to be had straight.
quote:Originally posted by Psionicist:
Ugh, gin wasn't mean to be had straight.
Au contraire...
*takes in the aroma of good juniper*
Maybe if you are sipping on something as foul as Taaka.
But gin, ah straight fine gin. Maybe a bit of vermouth, but too much more spoils the spirit for me.
*fumbles for door handle*
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#13
 2006-11-12, 03:21
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:
So yesterday was my birthday.
Your birthday is November 11th? Now if only your were born in 88 it would be really easy to remember your b day.
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#14
 2006-11-12, 04:12
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Your boyfriend does sound sort of like a pussy. He should have stood up for you, and been like YO THIS SHIT isnt funny its her fucking birthday now give me the fucking phone. Or something along those lines. And gotten the phone and called you. And as for the friends being dicks just avoid them and I dont know make your boyfriend tell them to be nicer. My best friend and I ripped on each other for our girlfriends and all and if either goes to far were just like like "DUDE SHUT THE FUCK UP dont say shit like that fucking cunt" And usually the ripping stops. Your boyfriend needs to grow a pair and do this. I mean its your birthday he should have gone to drinks maybe after being with you or not at all pick another day.
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#15
 2006-11-12, 04:18
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Oh, yeah, happy birthday.
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#16
 2006-11-12, 05:50
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Wait until winter makes the friend sick?
Offer to 'nurse' him?
...Use a pillow...
It'll look like he just stopped breathing. Accidental like...
>>>Or...ask him if he's gayzor & has a crush on your boyfriendzor? No matter what he says? Say you can understand? After all, he is pretty attractive/lovable. 
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#17
 2006-11-12, 06:39
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
The best way I've seen chicks over come this is just to ignore it and try to get on with it.
If it becomes a big problem, talk to your boyfriend.
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#18
 2006-11-12, 06:44
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:
"Well, everyone has that friend that they hate, and I'm yours!"
Coolest. friend. ever.
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#19
 2006-11-12, 07:08
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
It doesn't matter what they think of you, it only matters what he thinks about you.
Of course they're going to make jokes. If it wasn't about this, then it would be about something else.
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#20
 2006-11-12, 07:13
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Maybe he's likeable & they're jealous of the time he spends with you?
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#21
 2006-11-12, 08:04
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Post naked pix, we can figure this out.
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#22
 2006-11-12, 09:26
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Happy Birthday, Chels...
Your boyfriend has come across as a pussy. Either that, or he's lying. I can only imagine anyones phone being taken and their voice mail/text messages being intercepted without permission, there would be full scale war... especially with mine.
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#23
 2006-11-12, 09:38
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Happy birthday!!
Well give them what they deserve: a swift kick in the bollocks should do it.
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#24
 2006-11-12, 11:19
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Sicky complaing? Well, she hasn't changed, that is for sure.
/waits for Carbon to tear her a new one.
For a constructive answer: Guys are guys.
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#25
 2006-11-12, 11:30
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by fullcircle:
Post naked pix
*Edit*
You're supposed to grow a spine. Put these guys in their place. Give them the RL equivalent of STFU GTFO.
Currently you're an easy target. Change that.
*2nd Edit*
quote:Originally posted by fullcircle:
Post naked pix
[This message has been edited by arquin (edited 11-12-2006).]
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#26
 2006-11-12, 11:32
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
naked pix of sicky?
awesome...she's quite hot.
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#27
 2006-11-12, 11:35
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by RogueWarheart:
naked pix of sicky
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#28
 2006-11-12, 11:37
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Nono! She says that she's got 'funny' tits...
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#29
 2006-11-12, 11:46
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
first of all, happy birthday!
yea, your bf's friends are idiots. but your boyfriend should also have acted differently about it. if they can do stuff like that to him, he's being a pushover and they're not real friends.
talk to him about it, and ignore them.
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#30
 2006-11-12, 13:26
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
It doesn't sound like your boyfriend fought too hard to get his mobile back after knowing you were calling on your birthday.
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#31
 2006-11-12, 15:03
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:
Nono! She says that she's got 'funny' tits...
Do they tell jokes?
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#32
 2006-11-12, 16:18
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by heisler2:
Do they tell jokes?
now THAT would be cool.
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#33
 2006-11-12, 17:05
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Yeah just... chill about it. Ignore them, and you're fine. Or humiliate the cunt, to make him eat humble pie. A swift kick in the balls in front of everyone at a time where everyone feels like laughing should do the trick.
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#34
 2006-11-12, 18:28
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Rape them.
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#35
 2006-11-12, 19:48
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Euda:
It doesn't matter what they think of you, it only matters what he thinks about you.
Of course they're going to make jokes. If it wasn't about this, then it would be about something else.
Yes it does matter what they think of her. If you don't realize that the friend's of your boyfriend have an impact on the relationship than you are wrong. His friends sound like assholes in general, but for the most part if the friends don't like her, he could easily question the relationship.
Also as a girl don't use the word cunt, it makes you sound low class. Which might be a reason they don't like you. Anyways, as always, stop being clingy, and tell your boyfriend to get new friends.
Maybe introduce him to all the guys you used to fuck?
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#36
 2006-11-12, 20:49
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by heisler2:
Do they tell jokes?
I lolled.
I'm happy with any old pics. But of course I have to be on the bandwagon so, nekkid pixx0rz plzkthxbai!
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#37
 2006-11-12, 21:11
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
In my experience, generally when your s/o's friends don't like you, the relationship doesn't last too long. You always end up being torn between hanging out with your bf/gf, or your friends. Friends tend to eventually win.
And his story sounds like bullshit. I don't know anyone that wouldn't freak out if someone took their phone and started going through it and wouldn't give it back. It's like... someone going into your brain without your permission. Not fucking cool.
Why the hell was he out with his friends on your birthday anyway? Birthdays/anniversaries are the one day I condone ditching friends for your s/o.
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#38
 2006-11-12, 21:18
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
I haven't been through here in quite some time but I do remember thinking about how much of an asshole he is to you. But you love him, and I understand, I love assholes too, so this is obviously not why I'm here.
Anyways, as far as his friends go just ignore them. I'm a girl as well and I hang out with lots of guys, it's pretty much the only friends I have, besides about 2. They say shit all of the time. It's how they relate, or guys like that, assuming they're a bit like most of my friends. I don't think it's meant to be taken personally by you. Just fuck with them back and they'll gain respect for you. There's really not much you can do to prevent them from making fun of you. Don't let it get to you though. That'll just be something else they can rag on you for.
Good luck with everything. It's a small bump in the road you'll cross easily.
Also, happy birthday! I hope you enjoyed it.
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#39
 2006-11-12, 21:28
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
They were just having some fun, dont go crazy about it if they persist with the assholeness tell your boyfriend to talk to them
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#40
 2006-11-12, 21:57
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Tell your boyfriend that his friends are shit faces and you hate them, especially as they messed up your birthday. Failing that, explain it to them yourself in a way that they cannot fail to understand, like screaming it down their ear's.
Also;
quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:
Also as a girl don't use the word cunt, it makes you sound low class.
Fuck off.
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#41
 2006-11-13, 00:14
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Here's what you do:
Get somebody to play inexplicable war drums behind you, and kick your boyfriend's friend's asses. They won't expect it, since you're a girl.
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#42
 2006-11-13, 00:19
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Strakynyar Krongoth:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Tell your boyfriend that his friends are shit faces and you hate them, especially as they messed up your birthday. Failing that, explain it to them yourself in a way that they cannot fail to understand, like screaming it down their ear's.
Also;
Fuck off.
Uh....fuck you? You dirty cunt?
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#43
 2006-11-13, 01:05
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:
Uh....fuck you? You dirty cunt?
Heh.
I think I agree with you on this one. Hearing cunt from a girls mouth is a major turn off, even to me and I'm a female. I feel uncomfortable when they say it...sort of.
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#44
 2006-11-13, 01:15
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
That's right...use 'giner'.
As in, 'Ya feelthy 'giner'!
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#45
 2006-11-13, 01:46
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Little kids are calling it the "v hole".
Don't be such a v hole!
I recently heard it refered to as a heynanernaner. That was quite entertianing.
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#46
 2006-11-13, 02:55
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:
Long version:
So yesterday was my birthday. I went shopping with my mom and sister, while my boyfriend went out for drinks with his friends. Since it was my birthday, I obviously want to spend it with my boyfriend. I couldn't get a hold of him until about 8, at which point he sends me about 15 texts begging me to come get him because he doesn't want to hang out with his friends anymore.
It turns out that his friends stole his phone and were ripping on him every time I called/texted. I left 2 voicemails (which said something along the lines of "answer your goddamn phone, or call me back") as well as 2 texts, the first one said "where are you?" and the second said "don't ditch me on my birthday  "
So this makes me look like the annoying clingy girlfriend, when in reality, if they had just let him answer the phone we could have had a quick conversation about when we could meet up.
His one friend is especially an asshole. All he does is make fun of people. He was even laughing in my best friend's face because he's gay.
Basically, I'm just asking for advice on how to deal with these guys. They wont even give me a chance, so what am I supposed to do? Fall into the annoying girlfriend role they seem to have cast me in? Argh, I'm so frustrated.
Short version:
My boyfriend's friends are assholes and I don't know how to deal with them.
Also, I should add my boyfriend actually told his friend that he hated him, and his friend replied:
"Well, everyone has that friend that the hate, and I'm yours!"
So I'm guessing he doesn't have a problem with the fact that he's a complete cunt.
Grrrr.
your over reacting, they are just having fun. Don't take it to seriously. They don't think your clingy. My friends do the same shit and so do I
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#47
 2006-11-13, 03:05
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Happy Birthday.
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#48
 2006-11-13, 04:12
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by sylph:
Heh.
I think I agree with you on this one. Hearing cunt from a girls mouth is a major turn off, even to me and I'm a female. I feel uncomfortable when they say it...sort of.
Yea, I don't know. Call me old fashioned but I don't mind women cursing, but for me it just takes away from them.
I can understand in a situation when you are upset or angry, but to just use words like cunt to me makes you look trashy/uneducated. Just my two cents however.
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#49
 2006-11-13, 04:21
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:
Yea, I don't know. Call me old fashioned but I don't mind women cursing, but for me it just takes away from them.
I can understand in a situation when you are upset or angry, but to just use words like cunt to me makes you look trashy/uneducated. Just my two cents however.
I say fuck all of the time.  That's the extent of my cursing however. hehe
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#50
 2006-11-13, 04:43
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
So I guess there's nothing I can do? And I know that boys will be boys and whatnot, but all my guy friends aren't complete assholes for no reason.
I think the only reason he's friends with these guys is because he's known them since he was like 3.
Sigh.
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#51
 2006-11-13, 04:47
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
friends are friends...they have probably been friends with him longer then you have been dating him...i think my girlfriend is getting the same kinda thing from my friends...but things will change...does he tell his friends how much he likes you and such?
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#52
 2006-11-13, 13:47
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
^Yea, because that is going to help....
They are just going to say he is a pussy whipped bitch, if this dumbass can't putup with the friends, than she shouldn't be dating the guy.
Fucking period, they have been a part of his life forever, and if you are going to try and get him away from friends he has known forever then you are in the wrong.
Just fucking get over yourself, this shit happens to every girl out there, stop being a bitch and they will probably not give you shit.
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#53
 2006-11-13, 13:52
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
it is possible, but not certain, that those guys may be trying to attract YOUR attention, and are doing it the only way they know how. By being douchebags
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#54
 2006-11-13, 21:40
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
CarbonB, I've never been a bitch to them. I let them come to my house and drink, I smoke them up, I drive them around, etc and I never say a word.
But, for some good news, my boyfriend finally seems to have realised what assholes they are, and said he doesn't want to be friends with them anymore if they're going to treat him badly. They showed up at my house and bugged my boyfriend to lend them his bong while my dad was outside putting christmas lights up. My mom and I were both inviting them in, but they just took off with my boyfriend's $100 bong. Later, his friend was texting him getting all pissy saying "bros before hos" and shit, even though it's not like he even has to choose between us. Oh, and they also took off to Kelowna with the bong. Which is gay because we need it, lol.
So yeah, this is quite a good result. I didn't mean to come in between my boyfriend and his friends, but I'm not very disappointed that he doesn't want to be friends with them anymore. I didn't even say anything either, because I'm not the type to tell my boyfriend who he can and can't hang out with. Oh well.
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#55
 2006-11-14, 00:15
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Well at least your boyfriend isn't a senseless ass.
It's your birthday, he should spend some time with you.
And his clingy ass friends need to find something else to do with their apparently ample free time.
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#56
 2006-11-14, 00:17
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
He was willing to get rid of his friends just like that?
It speaks badly of his character.
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#57
 2006-11-14, 00:31
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Sounds like your boyfriend needs a backbone to put his friends in check. What the hell is up with that?
Don't give them shit if they are acting like douches, don't let them in your house, don't smoke them out (Never heard of a girl smoking guys out). You seem like you are letting them take advantage of you and step all over you.
Stick up for yourself or people WILL take advantage.
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#58
 2006-11-14, 18:37
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
quote:Originally posted by Euda:
He was willing to get rid of his friends just like that?
It speaks badly of his character.
No, this weekend was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
And CarbonB, you're right, but I guess it's not really going to be an issue anymore.
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#59
 2006-11-14, 18:44
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
^It's still an issue if you can't stand up for yourself.
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#60
 2006-11-14, 18:46
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
I'm okay at standing up for myself in most situations, I think. As much as I disliked them, I just didn't want to come between my boyfriend and his (former) friends, you know?
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#61
 2006-11-14, 18:55
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
I'm not sure it's good he's completely cast aside his friends like that.
It's good that he's enough of a man to respect you a bit, but chucking his friends aside totally...He might regret that.
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#62
 2006-11-14, 18:57
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Sick_Boy 
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
I should mention, these aren't his only friends. And I don't think he'll be completely done with them either, but maybe this will atleast show them that they shouldn't treat their own friends like shit, all the time. Yeah, all guys rip on each other, but it was non stop with these guys.
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#63
 2006-11-14, 20:18
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CarbonB 
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Re: My boyfriend's buddies are douchebags.
Uh....what you are describing sounds like shit. Guys don't have "OTHER" friends.
They have a set of guys that they have known for a long time that they hang out with, and these are the people they will hang out with forever.
Now every now and then they do have other acquantinces that they talk to and hang out with, but these aren't their real friends. These people don't really know them. I think your boyfriend sounds like a pussy whipped bitch if he is going to throw friends he has known since he was 3 away because you told him to.
Or because they treat him "bad".
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