I have about an 80% chance of having a certain medical condition, meaning I would be unable to lift more than half my own body weight without endangering my life. Unless I can find out for sure that I don't have it, I'm not going to take the chance... so I'm not exactly gonna be your stereotypical Strong Man With Comforting Manly Arms.

My question is: ladies, how important is this to you?

I never really cared before, but now I have a Special Someone to think about too, and I'm feeling horribly inadequate. What do I do when partner dearest needs something moved? How can I be a proper manly man if I'm a weakling?

What girl would put up with that?

She claims she doesn't care... but I still feel a little worthless.

Think of all the married computer programmers out there.

That's a good point. Still, I'd like to be able to pick her up and whisk her around and stuff... but I guess the inability to do that isn't considered a deal-breaker?

Shit...

Dude, physical endurance is a LOT when it comes to lovemaking.

Sorry man.

Exercise to the point where half your body weight is enough to manage day to day things.

Would that make you feel more secure?

Endurance isn't the problem, just strength. There's no limit to how long I can exercise - just can't lift her up and drop her on my dick or whatever.

Edit: Euda, I was thinking that. The reason I'm not supposed to lift very much is because it apparently puts pressure on my aorta, and because mine's extraordinarily fragile this will cause "aortic dissection." I.e. popped heart. But I was thinking maybe I could exercise enough that most lifting I'll have to do won't a strain at all.

I'm going to see the cardiologist this week... I'll ask him. He might say no to my little plan, though... so I'd still like to know if physical ability or lack thereof is a big deal to most women.

[This message has been edited by Twisted_Ferret (edited 11-07-2006).]

You'll be fine, there are plenty of women out there that don't think twice about that sort of thing.

Sure, you might feel awkward about it; that doesn't me that she finds it awkward. Guys and girls feel awkward about a lot of things for which they have no reason.

I'm guessing that you don't rely on strength for that much in you life, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Meh.... wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.... just because you can't lift her up... you can still push her onto the bed lol.

What is the name of the condition, this kind of sounds like bullshit to me. A condition where you can't lift half your body weight?

What if you weighed 900 lbs.? Does that mean you can now lift 450 lbs. safely without endangering your life?

What the fuck is this based on?

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

The reason I'm not supposed to lift very much is because it apparently puts pressure on my aorta, and because mine's extraordinarily fragile this will cause "aortic dissection." I.e. popped heart. But I was thinking maybe I could exercise enough that most lifting I'll have to do won't a strain at all.

.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

What is the name of the condition, this kind of sounds like bullshit to me. A condition where you can't lift half your body weight?

What if you weighed 900 lbs.? Does that mean you can now lift 450 lbs. safely without endangering your life?

What the fuck is this based on?

I was wondering that too; however, I'm pretty sure it's just a general guideline - a large (not fat) person will have less difficulty in lifting something than a smaller one, and so would put less strain on his heart. I'm technically not supposed to lift anything, really. The condition is called Marfan's Syndrome (http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4672).

I can assure you it's not bullshit, but I don't know how to prove it to you. I'm embarrassed to post it, actually; I know that next time I get in a flaming match with someone they'll bring it up. "Hey bitch, your weak ass couldn't even lift my dick." Maybe picture of the heart medicine I'm on? Doesn't really matter, I guess... believe me or not.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

What is the name of the condition, this kind of sounds like bullshit to me. A condition where you can't lift half your body weight?

What if you weighed 900 lbs.? Does that mean you can now lift 450 lbs. safely without endangering your life?

What the fuck is this based on?

That's pretty stupid, using extreme weights to prove a point.

If my husband got sick and wasn't big and strong anymore, I would still love him.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Marfan's Syndrome (http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4672).





Is that the condition where you have really long fingers and toes? or am I getting confused?

quote:Originally posted by Enset:

Is that the condition where you have really long fingers and toes? or am I getting confused?

Yep, it is. Well, fingers more than toes. Next to a CD case for comparison. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Twisted_Ferret/Picture410.jpg)

So you're an alien human hybrid? I see through your guise....

The thing about computer programmers, they usually also got money/smarts to compensate for a lack of physical ability(if we're pretending all programmers are nerd weakling stereotypes).

You've probably got some other attractive qualities to offer, so whatever girl, would no doubt weigh those against your reluctance to move the couch.

I wouldn't worry about it with girls. I don't really lift girls up, and I only lift half my body weight if I'm doing weights. I'm sure you won't have any problems. Really, people can overlook a lot of stupid little things if they care.

Why do you guys think that matters so much?

I prefer lean guys to muscular/strong guys.

quote:Originally posted by firekitty751:

Why do you guys think that matters so much?

I prefer lean guys to muscular/strong guys.

It's simply a shallow measuring stick to compare yourself with other males. It allows people to boost their self esteem while ignoring the complete package. You're more than one quality, but you want to have as many in your arsenal as possible....

quote:Originally posted by stab:

That's pretty stupid, using extreme weights to prove a point.

It accomplished what I wanted, and gave me the information I wanted.

Stupid? I think not, maybe what is stupid to you, is just your insane jealousy of me. Perhaps?

quote:Originally posted by half-wit goon:

So you're an alien human hybrid? I see through your guise....



quote:The thing about computer programmers, they usually also got money/smarts to compensate for a lack of physical ability(if we're pretending all programmers are nerd weakling stereotypes).

You've probably got some other attractive qualities to offer, so whatever girl, would no doubt weigh those against your reluctance to move the couch.

Well, I like to think I'm extremely intelligent; but as far as I know, that can't compete at all with Mr. Muscles.

quote:Originally posted by firekitty751:

Why do you guys think that matters so much?

I prefer lean guys to muscular/strong guys.

Well, very few people have told me it doesn't matter. Females included.

Yeah, don`t worry about it. Physical ability is becoming less and less important I think.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

It accomplished what I wanted, and gave me the information I wanted.

Stupid? I think not, maybe what is stupid to you, is just your insane jealousy of me. Perhaps?

What did you want? To know the condition I had? You could've just asked.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

It accomplished what I wanted, and gave me the information I wanted.

Stupid? I think not, maybe what is stupid to you, is just your insane jealousy of me. Perhaps?

just because it was successful doesn't make it smart.

The second part of your post makes no sense what-so-ever.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

I think not, maybe what is stupid to you, is just your insane jealousy of me. Perhaps?

Did you mean envy?

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Originally posted by Enset:

Is that the condition where you have really long fingers and toes? or am I getting confused?

Yep, it is. Well, fingers more than toes. Next to a CD case for comparison. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/Twisted_Ferret/Picture410.jpg)

You have the hottest hands. Seriously

Get a fat chick, she won't expect you to throw her around and shit.

quote:Originally posted by Oxy-Moron:

Get a fat chick, she won't expect you to throw her around and shit.

Best. Answer. Ever.

TwistedFerret, that seriously sucks.

Don't do anything dumb to endanger yourself over a chick. Although I could see it limiting you sexwise a little bit, they shouldn't have a problem with it. Besides, thanks to the miracle of workout machines that isolate muscles, you could likely get very manly-looking triceps/biceps/forearms without using the chest-area muscles.

Those fingers are well... damn.

[This message has been edited by letsnukechina (edited 11-08-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:

Think of all the married computer programmers out there.



That is where you're wrong. I know a married programmer, and he's built like Hulk. He works out nearly everyday, and is one of the strongest people I know.

The second part of my post does make sense bitch, and no I couldn't of just asked, because that makes it seem like I give a fuck.

And no I didn't mean envy mother fucker.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

I.e. popped heart.

Sorry, not in a cruel way, but that made me laugh a lot. I dont think its a huge issue. My girlfriend jumps on me a fair amount, but not in a way that says "This is why I love you". I think if you explained this to any girl she wouldnt be bothered. Any girl worth spending a lot of time with, at least.

Also, and I'm not being stupid here, look for a really tiny girlfriend. I mean, there are tons of girls out there (no paedophile jokes here...) that are like 90lbs.

Or move to the west coast of canada...its ALL asians here, and they have hollow bones or something, because they weigh like 10% less, even for the same body size.

So its heart related? Are there any heart-strengthening excersizes you can do, like, just cardio workouts to try and beef up the ticker?

I bet moving into a new place is really easy for you.

Have you realized how good it is to be long a thin so's getting in & out of ground squirrel burrows is maximized? They are tasty, aren't they?

Matt Furey's Bodyweight excercises might suit youse? Increasing strength & burrow-plundering suppleness to boot! www.mattfurey.com (http://www.mattfurey.com)

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

and no I couldn't of just asked, because that makes it seem like I give a fuck.

I'm torn between interpreting this as idiocy and interpreting this as comedic brilliance.

I like to think well of people. I say it's brilliance.

quote:Originally posted by Shodan's Own:

Sorry, not in a cruel way, but that made me laugh a lot.

It was supposed to.

quote:Also, and I'm not being stupid here, look for a really tiny girlfriend. I mean, there are tons of girls out there (no paedophile jokes here...) that are like 90lbs.

Or move to the west coast of canada...its ALL asians here, and they have hollow bones or something, because they weigh like 10% less, even for the same body size.

My girlfriend is a 96-pound half-Asian from Vancouver...

quote:So its heart related? Are there any heart-strengthening excersizes you can do, like, just cardio workouts to try and beef up the ticker?

Yeah, they'll help prolong my lifespan... but not increase my aortic strength.

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

Have you realized how good it is to be long a thin so's getting in & out of ground squirrel burrows is maximized? They are tasty, aren't they?

Absolutely delicious... and they're all over here in Texas. Mmm-mmm! *licks lips*

quote:Matt Furey's Bodyweight excercises might suit youse? Increasing strength & burrow-plundering suppleness to boot! www.mattfurey.com (http://www.mattfurey.com)

I dunno, moonman. It looks a little like squeerrel-feces to me. But since it's you, I'll consider it.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:



Or move to the west coast of canada...its ALL asians here, and they have hollow bones or something, because they weigh like 10% less, even for the same body size.

My girlfriend is a 96-pound half-Asian from Vancouver...

Lol, well my comment was vancouver specific, so I guess it all comes full circle. I live in Van, so I'm very much the cultural minority here (and I'm standard-issue White Guy).

quote:Originally posted by letsnukechina:

Best. Answer. Ever.

TwistedFerret, that seriously sucks.

Don't do anything dumb to endanger yourself over a chick. Although I could see it limiting you sexwise a little bit, they shouldn't have a problem with it. Besides, thanks to the miracle of workout machines that isolate muscles, you could likely get very manly-looking triceps/biceps/forearms without using the chest-area muscles.

Those fingers are well... damn.



Hmm... you mean those machines aren't just bullshit?

And yeah, the camera angle makes my fingers look a little bigger than they are. But they are pretty damn big; my hand's at least 8" long, and my handspan is closer to 9".

quote:Originally posted by Enset:

You have the hottest hands. Seriously

Haha, thanks. But how so? They look gross to me.

A lot of it's based on the aZn excercises. His wife is from Hainan & he goes there twice a year. He goes to the kickin' kungfuzorz temples & digs up new stuff.

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

A lot of it's based on the aZn excercises. His wife is from Hainan & he goes there twice a year. He goes to the kickin' kungfuzorz temples & digs up new stuff.

Not just a scam preying on weaklings like Yours Truly, then?

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

That's a good point. Still, I'd like to be able to pick her up and whisk her around and stuff... but I guess the inability to do that isn't considered a deal-breaker?

I didn't read any responses, so tell me if what I type has already been addressed, if not, well, score.

Any way, my girlfriend never cared that I was a weakling. She honestly didn't. But, I was the bitch in the relationship. Then I started lifting weights and working as a labourer, all of a sudden I was double my previous strength and made her feel like a woman. I could throw her around during sex, pin her, what ever. All of a sudden she was waaaaaay more attracted to me. Then she became my bitch.

So, she might still be attracted to you, but she'd be more attracted if you were strong.

Well, he does sell a lot of books & vids? The basic Combat Conditioning book & it's 'Royal Court' of three exercises, eg. Squats, Back Bridge & Hindu Pushups? They give you a real workout.

How may squats can you do before you blow up? Blow up real good?

>>>Yah! Go all Jet Li on her ass!

[This message has been edited by moonmeister (edited 11-08-2006).]

Gain alot of weight. Tink of it like this...If your 600 pounds...you can still lift 300 pounds without dying Damn i'm smart. *hands you bacon greese*

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

I didn't read any responses, so tell me if what I type has already been addressed, if not, well, score.

Any way, my girlfriend never cared that I was a weakling. She honestly didn't. But, I was the bitch in the relationship. Then I started lifting weights and working as a labourer, all of a sudden I was double my previous strength and made her feel like a woman. I could throw her around during sex, pin her, what ever. All of a sudden she was waaaaaay more attracted to me. Then she became my bitch.

So, she might still be attracted to you, but she'd be more attracted if you were strong.

I swear, you're the only honest poster in this thread. Anyway, no, hasn't really been addressed before. But... I can pin my girl. She's pretty small, and while I'm weak from lack of exercise I'm also fairly large in size. Is it just relative strength that counts, or do I have to get huge biceps and shit?

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

Well, he does sell a lot of books & vids? The basic Combat Conditioning book & it's 'Royal Court' of three exercises, eg. Squats, Back Bridge & Hindu Pushups? They give you a real workout.

How may squats can you do before you blow up? Blow up real good?

>>>Yah! Go all Jet Li on her ass!



You're a little like educational TV would be if it were done right. Entertaining... and helpful! Dankesehr.

quote:Originally posted by soro_one:

Gain alot of weight. Tink of it like this...If your 600 pounds...you can still lift 300 pounds without dying Damn i'm smart. *hands you bacon greese*

Already been suggested and refuted... sorry. Good try though.

Do you walk much? Walking, like I did tonight, for a couple of miles? Mostly off sidewalk in the grass is very good excercise. Any slightest roughness/uneveness in your walking surface really works your whole body way more than on the sidewalk.

Sure, 'specially at night, you've got to keep an eye out for trash hazards & holes? In the city it's pretty easy to find grass or graded dirt to walk on that's as safe as the sidewalk...mostly...

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

Do you walk much? Walking, like I did tonight, for a couple of miles? Mostly off sidewalk in the grass is very good excercise. Any slightest roughness/uneveness in your walking surface really works your whole body way more than on the sidewalk.

Sure, 'specially at night, you've got to keep an eye out for trash hazards & holes? In the city it's pretty easy to find grass or graded dirt to walk on that's as safe as the sidewalk...mostly...

I don't walk, but I should. The cardiologist recommended it to, but I didn't know that sidewalks were to be avoided. Dankeschön!