if one were to remove the negative social stigma associated with homosexuality, i feel that much more men would be having sex with eachother.

and i speak from experience, it is very, very possible to make a man who has never questioned his sexuality wonder-why not?-and act upon this.

on another note, i find that the typical heterosexual male is in fact incredibly gay. take for instance sports- why is it that men like getting sweaty and chasing balls together? why is slapping eachothers asses in the locker rooms so much fun? furthermore, car adoration; it is a fact that sports cars are phallic symbols. guys like looking at dicks??

also, the typical male uses the word 'gay' as if it is the most hilarious statement in the world, interjecting it into almost every other sentence; 'dude, thats so gay', 'now i can finally see that youre gay', just look at the picture comments on myspace of any straight male to another straight male, or listen to the jocks in high school for 2 minutes. they do this in order to validate their heterosexuality, but does this constant provocation of the word simply mean they fear they are gay? i believe so.

anyways, let me know what you think. all you straight guys out there, forget everything society has taught you and ask yourself why you are so mortally against gay sex (thats to those of you who balk at my mere assertion that you, yes you, may in fact be part pansy)

..i thought this was a pretty well known fact? that supposedly everyone has same sex tendencies?

Eh. doesn't really bother me, tell you the truth.

I made out with a few guys when I was much younger, and we attempted some vaguely sexual things, but to no avail.

So I know for a FACT that I'm not gay, since I at least gave it a shot and it didn't work out.

Im actually odd. Ive got Very masculine qualities, and then Ive got VERY feminine qualities.

Im the best fighter my friends know,I drive a 75 camaro, I go fishing with my bros, and I hunt.

I also enjoy getting my nails done, I take care of my skin and use more expensive lotions then my gf. I can do hair,make up, and even pick out the outfirts for the women in my house. I also have more female friends than male friends and I spend more time with them, shopping,tanning ect...

But then again Ive never questioned my sexuality,ive never looked at a man in a sexual way or anythin of the sort.

All males?

Try all people.

quote:Originally posted by outsmartyouwithignorance:

Im actually odd. Ive got Very masculine qualities, and then Ive got VERY feminine qualities.

Im the best fighter my friends know,I drive a 75 camaro, I go fishing with my bros, and I hunt.

I also enjoy getting my nails done, I take care of my skin and use more expensive lotions then my gf. I can do hair,make up, and even pick out the outfirts for the women in my house. I also have more female friends than male friends and I spend more time with them, shopping,tanning ect...

But then again Ive never questioned my sexuality,ive never looked at a man in a sexual way or anythin of the sort.



those are completely superficial qualities and really have very little to do with your sexuality.

You know how I know I'm not gay? I CANNOT beat off thinking about men. Instant boner-kill right there.

it's a fact that cars are phallic symbols? guys playing sports isn't because of their competitiveness but because of their homosexuality?

I think you're trying reeeaaallly hard to convince yourself that other guys are gay... maybe because you yourself are gay?

but seriously though, the fact that men will have sex with other men when there are no women around doesn't make them gay. it makes them slaves to sex. their gender preference is still for women.

It's true. There may be an attraction, but not everyone acts on it or admits it.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

but seriously though, the fact that men will have sex with other men when there are no women around doesn't make them gay. it makes them slaves to sex. their gender preference is still for women.



QFT!!!

I dunno,man. I was questioning, hooked up with a dud for like half an hour, it just wasn't my thing. Even if all men have a slight tendency, doesn't mean they'd be out assfucking like crazy.

Kinda relating, but they did a study somewhere that showed somthing like 95% of test subjects who said they weren't gay, and hated gay people would be an erection at gay porn. Versus 2 or 3% of men who said they weren't gay, but had no problem with gays.

I do believe that's true though, I'm male- comfortable with my sexuality and while I probably wouldn't peg another guy, I've viewed a select few as hot and peg-able. I'd totally bang Seth Green though.

You may have been abused by your mother, but spare us such mindless rants.

quote:Originally posted by zebra head:

I do believe that's true though, I'm male- comfortable with my sexuality and while I probably wouldn't peg another guy, I've viewed a select few as hot and peg-able. I'd totally bang Brad Pitt or Julian McMahon though.

I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality,other peoples sexual preference is not something that concerns me whatsoever.and yes,i think i have some gay/feminine qualities,that doesnt mean anything though.

Amusingly, while a lot of people assume I like men or am open to doing so, I can't look at a man and feel any sort of attraction. Which is kind of ironic.

Anyway.

1. The majority of "100% straight" men are homophobic.

2. The majority of homophobes have homosexual urges.

Can't be fucked finding the studies, but they wouldn't be hard to find. This is pretty much indebatable.

Make your own conclusions.

I have no thoughts and intentions of having relations with another male.

It would make me feel... gay.

I tried things when I was younger, certainly not now...its just finding what your comfortable with I guess.

Here's a question for you. You seem to think the fear of being gay infact makes someone gay (to some extent). If I were to fear being portugese, would that infact make me portugese? you're point is stupid and generic and really conveys nothing at all. Guys like sports because they're competitive and fun, not because they get to touch other boys. You're gay, thats fine, nobody gives a shit. You're arguments are retarded, you can distort any fact far enough to try and prove whatever point you have.

When people use 'gay' as an insult they are doing it because they consider it a negative thing. It's not because secretly they want to play with the other guys dick. Do you think when the slave owners of yore were shouting out "pick that cotton nigger" that they really secretly wanted to be black? The human race has always had a fear of things they don't know or understand, it's natural, it's why we're afraid of the dark. Nothing you said in your argument even makes sense, it just sounds like it should probably be valid, but its not.

Go have sex with men and be happy about it, hell I'm happy for you, it's nice that you've found something you enjoy. Just don't go around making some blanket statement which you can't support with any real factual evidence whatsoever.

"Sexuality" or "sexual orientation" are social constructs, and totally made up by members of a culture. for example, the infamous yanomamo tribe has normalized male homosexuality, except for ritualized reproductive behavior with the women.

it almost doesn't make sense to say that people have 'gay' tendencies or 'straight' tendencies. People simply have sexual behaviors. they get turned on, fantasize, play around, have intercourse, etc. in various permutations. words like 'straight' or 'gay' are used to categorize these behaviors that occur in people along a continuum of indvidual differences, within the bounds of cultural norms.

what's ghey in atlanta might only be considered sensitive in amsterdam.

Is that the excuse youd dad gave you right before he raped you in the ass?

I admit it. Fact of life.



<=Heb geld nodig=>

Have you ever watched that Kinsley movie about sexuality, he says that everybody fits on a scale from 1-10 of homo and hetero sexual preferrence, and while many ppl my want to think they are 100% straight it is very unlikely that they are.

Where do you fit on the scale, I think i'm a 4 homo and 6 hetero, then again i'm young how do i know.

I agree with you that everyone has slight homoerotic interests but at the same time cultural stigma is so strong that its most likely to be repressed.

Oh and also, only men eh? What are you, sexist?

chem chem

im not gay, but sure under a circumstance with no women around i would get more comfortable with other dudes.

but men only? not quite.

i read in Mens Health (a GREAT mag) that sexually driven women are 27X more likely to have same sex sex than equally sexually driven men.

same magazine i read that post orgasm contentment feeling after sex is 4X stronger than the feeling after masturbating. sinc eim only 14, can soemone tell me if this is true?

quote:Originally posted by unluckymoney:

same magazine i read that post orgasm contentment feeling after sex is 4X stronger than the feeling after masturbating. sinc eim only 14, can soemone tell me if this is true?

yes. it is.

quote:Originally posted by zebra head:

Kinda relating, but they did a study somewhere that showed somthing like 95% of test subjects who said they weren't gay, and hated gay people would be an erection at gay porn. Versus 2 or 3% of men who said they weren't gay, but had no problem with gays.

I do believe that's true though, I'm male- comfortable with my sexuality and while I probably wouldn't peg another guy, I've viewed a select few as hot and peg-able. I'd totally bang Seth Green though.

There was a study that dealt with that, but your numbers are way off. It was like 50% of homophobes got aroused in some manner, vs. 20% of non-homophobic guys. And another explanation was put forward: that anger and disgust give an adrenaline rush, and that most of the signs of arousal in homophobes could be attributed to that.

My numbers are probably off too, but I remember that it wasn't huge percentages and a huge difference.

Edit: As for me, I've never been attracted to another male. Their (my) body is just sexually inert to me; about as arousing as a table.

[This message has been edited by Twisted_Ferret (edited 10-26-2006).]

This is an idiotic argument.

Sports are for competition. Not once have I slapped someone's ass (or been slapped) playing football with my friends. Back in high school, no one slapped each other's asses in the locker room, either.

Cars? I hate cars. Most people like them because of the power they have and the freedom they represent, not that they are shaped like a dick. Please note, if your dick is shaped like a hummer, you need some serious fuckin help.

People use 'gay' because it is just a cultural word like 'cool' was in the 90s and 'rad' was in the 80s. Being 'gay' is meant as an insult, not a veiled proposition. When I call someone a motherfucker, I don't mean that I want to fuck their or any other mother, I just mean they are bothering me in some way or another. When I say something is gay, I have no thought of sexuality. It's another way of saying 'that is stupid.'

All that said, I have no problem with homosexual men or women. Seeing male-on-male definitely disgusts me, but it doesn't scare me or make me think that I secretly want to chug a manload. It makes me think 'HOW can they not want a woman?!'

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

There was a study that dealt with that, but your numbers are way off. It was like 50% of homophobes got aroused in some manner, vs. 20% of non-homophobic guys. And another explanation was put forward: that anger and disgust give an adrenline rush, and that most of the signs of arousal in homophobes could be attributed to that.

My numbers are probably off too, but I remember that it wasn't huge percentages and a huge difference.

I saw that, too, and yeah those numbers he gave are WAY off. I'll have to find a link to it.

Pretty easy to determine if you are gay or not, if you look at a man and your dick gets hard, you are gay.

If you look at a man and your dick doesn't get hard you aren't gay. Hmmmm, now that I think about it, anything homosexual usually makes me cringe.

I just don't see why two guys should fuck around? Just doesn't seem natural. Elaborating on what someone said about everyone having same-sex tendencies.

I think this goes into, thinking that a guy is handsome, or thinking he looks good, without actually wanting to sleep with him.

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

yes. it is.

Firstly I have to say I laughed at the irony of the age of the poster and your name. I assume it was intentional

Secondly, I just want to respond to EskiMo, and his amusing ramblings. Questioning the validity of others arguments and then proceeding to essentially say "Just because I fear being Portugese, doesn't mean I'll become Portugese." That is physically impossible, while homophobia's relationship to homosexuality is plausible and undeniable. I appreciate the attempt, as it was funny, but you have no place in an adult argument.

Back to the sandbox son.

Wrong, your just admitting your gay.

The thought of fucking a man actually makes me feel sick to my stomach. Stop trying to downplay the fact that you like cock.

I agree with the OP on most of things said, but not everything.

The sport bit. Well i play sports, well i play A sport anyways, and thats fencing. In no way, shape or form does anyone get near anyone elsesarse during play, its a blody violation of the rules and you can lose points for contact with another duellist for chrits sake! That being said, i can see where youre coming from. its a POSSIBILITY that this is why men are soo competitive, but in my mind, extreamly doubtful and not that well founded, unless you believe in most Freudian work.

Now the car thing. The idea of the car being shaped like a dick is kinda silly personally. However, as one person mentioned people like cars because of their power between their legs. Now that in my min can link to sex. Either the dominance over a powerful object can be sexual, such as the whole primal dominance of women aeons ago, nd although women may not have been seen as powerufl (im no expert im just running with my train of thought here, disagree or flame me all you want for these statements) that idea of dominance sits well with a mans sexual impulses.

Then theres the idea of the mans equipment itself being the powerful object. Correct me if im wrong, but virtually all men like their nice powerful tool between their legs, correct? Well a car can be a more visible version of that power. It does not ned to link in anyway to size, or sexuality, but the whole concept of have at your command a powerful object like that, again i personally thinks sits in a mans mind as arousing as well, even if the object itself is ugly, its the control of the powe they crave.

Anyways,ive said my two bits and im done for now. No doubt ill respond to any replies to this thread post, but meh.

Edit: Just thought of another point for my arguement of the domination idea. Cars, as i said powerful objects, often being given female names. Now in classic society would you name something that was powerful and you then dominated a male or female? typically it would a female because it was the males domination of the object in the first place. So cars having female names represents the idea of domination of females. But again could be wrong.

And before anyone asks, this is not how i think overall. Just merely an idea the popped into my head reading this thread.

[This message has been edited by mongolia_d (edited 10-26-2006).]

What the fuck does it matter?

Stick your dick where you want to, and leave other people the fuck alone. The fact that you're so fascinated by it all shows that you are actually gay.

~Saint947

Saint, you do realise you posting in here actually groups you with all the people you just claimed were fascinated by this and thus are gay. Just thought id point that out to ya.

Saint, you do realise you posting in here actually groups you with all the people you just claimed were fascinated by this and thus makes you look like you are gay. Just thought id point that out to ya.

quote:Originally posted by mongolia_d:

Saint, you do realise you posting in here actually groups you with all the people you just claimed were fascinated by this and thus makes you look like you are gay. Just thought id point that out to ya.

Did I ever say I was fascinated by what your guys claim is some kind of socio-psycho phenomena?

No. I was telling all you guys off, saying to leave everyone the fuck alone, and let them put their b0ners where they want, without you prying into it.

~Saint947

HEy, i have no problem with where guys stick their cocks. However, everything in socety is analysed, and i do mean EVERYTHING. Hell im doing a degree in sociology and criminlogy, we were talking today about how urban legends and conspiracy theiories help people to express their own anxieties and fearsa bout the world in both of those, and in the case of criminology how bad guys are depicted shows anxieties over certain issues in society at the time. For instance, Bram Stoker's Dracula being written as a creature of the night, which has always been seen as mysterious, who feasts of blood and infects peoples blod with his own diesease, and he was easten european. This written at a time when people in the victorian age were scared of the east european immigrants, as they may weaken or diesease british blood, and also there was the whole syphilis epidemic. So i hate to say it mate, but everything gets analysed. Hell it wouldnt surprise me if a social scientist stumbled onto totse and decided to do a PHD on this single site alone,.

^The problem with that is you think people actually give a shit about your analysis of their lives, or their characteristics in life.

They don't, who gives a fuck what you think is right or wrong, what you think is the reason behind certain actions or certain sexual preferences.

It doesn't matter, it is only an opinion, and it has no bearing on anything that we need to focus on. So....if you're gay, I'm sorry, have fun with men, if you're straight, I'm sorry, have fun trying to fuck as many women as gay men fuck men.

Im straight and wouldnt ever do anything remotely sexual with another guy as it just doesnt get me turned on at all, though i can see when a guy is atractive, this doesnt make me gay....all guys and girls for that matter see others and see if they are a "threat" to them in that sense.

I dont think ALL men are at heart a little gay there are those who are completely straight and this isnt because they are homophobic.

This thread is gay.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

I made out with a few guys when I was much younger, and we attempted some vaguely sexual things, but to no avail.

So I know for a FACT that I'm not gay



I see a contradiction here...

I like to sex my woman whenever possible.

all those that say they feel 'sick to their stomach' at the though of gay contact, THAT is what im talkign about. the mere fact that you feel, or say you feel, so strongly about the issue means that it has relevance in your sub/consciousness. closet case? possibly.

and by cars being phallic symbols, i meant sports cars. look at a ferrari and tell me its not one long, shiny, beautiful image of a penis.

on the Kinsey scale thing, id have to say im about 6-7 gay, 3-4 straight. also, another problem with me is that im not really aroused by people, only by thoughts. that being said, i can watch hundreds of attractive naked people, male or female, waltzing by me and i wouldnt get a hard on. it sort of bothers me, come to think of it.

eh, im an autosexual, i dont really know why i started this post, but thanks for the replies.

Females, too.

Sexist.

i thought this was true was before this post,

i had a crush on this guy an tried to sneak a look at his balls once, then i got a girlfriend an that was the end of that moment.

i think it has to do with puberty setting in an all the hormones affecting you in a way they your not sure for a while

like the terrible two's toddle phase?

quote:Originally posted by immersionwarning:

the mere fact that you feel, or say you feel, so strongly about the issue means that it has relevance in your sub/consciousness. closet case? possibly.



Are you really this retarded? Not everyone gets that warm fuzzy feeling inside when they think about having a dick up their ass you fag. It doesn't even make scientific sense. Men and women fuck because that is how the population thrives. By all rights the gay gene should have been weeded out by now, if it were not for all the closet homos who start families and then leave after 15 years of marriage to be gay.

quote:Originally posted by CDAWG:

i thought this was true was before this post,

i had a crush on this guy an tried to sneak a look at his balls once, then i got a girlfriend an that was the end of that moment.

i think it has to do with puberty setting in an all the hormones affecting you in a way they your not sure for a while

like the terrible two's toddle phase?

Maybe you were just checking to see if he had a bigger dick?

Lol this is like a Gayfest.

GTFO. ALL OF YOU!!!!

Heh, page 2.

quote:Originally posted by Belle:

Firstly I have to say I laughed at the irony of the age of the poster and your name. I assume it was intentional

Secondly, I just want to respond to EskiMo, and his amusing ramblings. Questioning the validity of others arguments and then proceeding to essentially say "Just because I fear being Portugese, doesn't mean I'll become Portugese." That is physically impossible, while homophobia's relationship to homosexuality is plausible and undeniable. I appreciate the attempt, as it was funny, but you have no place in an adult argument.

Back to the sandbox son.

haha i actually didn't really even think about that. i was kind of like "hmm, well he's 14..."

and i thought you were going to go on to make fun of me because i saw my boyfriend's username in your post. but THAT was an ironic little coincidence as well.

odd.

quote:Originally posted by anarcho-commie:

Lol this is like a Gayfest.

GTFO. ALL OF YOU!!!!

qft

quote:Originally posted by YouLookFourteen:

haha i actually didn't really even think about that. i was kind of like "hmm, well he's 14..."

and i thought you were going to go on to make fun of me because i saw my boyfriend's username in your post. but THAT was an ironic little coincidence as well.

odd.

Hmmmm weird. Accident, fate, and destiny must be conspiring....

I hear now what they are saying!

Put.....a highligher......in your bum.......

ahhh wait, it's only HTS-Noob talking.

Oh well I'll include a message that you can decipher.

2nn4nn3nn2nn4nn3nn4nn2nn4nngg5.

3nn3gg2ggrggegrhthtjjyjj, 4hhshrh66h6j7j8kk?

ahhh2h3h4j!

quote:Originally posted by Markoni:

Are you really this retarded? Not everyone gets that warm fuzzy feeling inside when they think about having a dick up their ass you fag. It doesn't even make scientific sense. Men and women fuck because that is how the population thrives. By all rights the gay gene should have been weeded out by now, if it were not for all the closet homos who start families and then leave after 15 years of marriage to be gay.

there is no evidence for a 'gay gene'. not to say there isnt a kind of genetic predisposition (probably aquired, for males, from the mothers side). scientific sense? are you kidding? you think humans are the only ones ass fucking?

chimpanzees are known to fuck the same sex, as are a list of over 300 animals (only so few because there hasnt been much funding for this kind of research. however, these 300 animal species contain the most common ones, such as horses, rabbits, dogs, cats, wolves, etc.) (go to wikipedia and research it, cant be bothered to find it now)

point being, there is no 'gay gene' to be 'weeded out', and it makes complete 'scientific sense'.

homosexuality is a natural phenomenon of life that a ridiculous modern society(well, beginning when a massive church-industrial complex ruled the world) has proclaimed sinful and disgusting.

the greeks were proud of their ass fucking, though that wasnt as common in rome, and there are several tribes in different locations in which gay sex is the 'normal' sex, while intercourse with a woman is a rare ritual.

also, i guarantee you that if you ever were to supercede your mundane preconcieved notions, someone could make you have the most incredible orgasm imaginable without even touching your penis.

(undeniable fact, its your prostate. you're just to afraid to try)

I have no desire to have anything up my ass (there was a period of time when my exgirlfriend was obsessed with fingering my ass, I was like, "wtf" for a while then was like, "whatever", she did it twice and it was fucking horrible - never again) at ALL. I have no desire to do anything sexual with a man. Yes, some men are attractive, that is undeniable. That's all just based off of geometry and physical well being, not love or lust.

I can not fall in love with a man like I can a woman.

So in short: fuck the homosexual agenda, not all males have gay tendencies, and I bet most don't. All this, "are you sureeeeeeee?" bullshit is just trying to make more people gay. Yes, I'm fucking sure. Yes, I've thought about it. No, I don't want fucking any.

quote:Originally posted by MonetaryGraspOfLesions:

So in short: fuck the homosexual agenda, not all males have gay tendencies, and I bet most don't. All this, "are you sureeeeeeee?" bullshit is just trying to make more people gay. Yes, I'm fucking sure. Yes, I've thought about it. No, I don't want fucking any.

Good post.

quote:Originally posted by immersionwarning:

and by cars being phallic symbols, i meant sports cars. look at a ferrari and tell me its not one long, shiny, beautiful image of a penis.

If this is your penis (http://tinyurl.com/jmb97), you still need some fuckin help.

[This message has been edited by malaria (edited 10-27-2006).]

Wrong, it has been proven that being gay or straight is in the genes and therefore can't be judged on them. About the tribegayness, all the males hopping on eachother doesn't mean they're gay, just that that is their culture and is unavoidable making straightfucking out of the question.

As for the "sportscars are dicks" statement: BULLSHIT. Sportscars are expensive and therefore brings distinction. They also make you stand out of the crowd giving you a good feeling of power.

The all guys are gay is completely off. One's gay as soon as one's attracted to the same sex, it's as easy as that.

Im a male and i had oral sex with another guy when i was 12/13... so i think gay tendencies have been with me most my life... tossing each other off at school, blow jobs in cubicules *wipes tear* good times...

Gayness whether genetic or not obviously would have been weeded out by now if it were not desirable in some way; according to one theory I've heard it exists in order that gay brothers of women can help out raising their kids, and as you know (directly or otherwise) child rearing isn't exactly easy. However it is known that during sometime before birth something influences future sexual preference since if one twin is known to be gay the other has a 50% chance or so of being as well.

Being gay does not necessarily always entail ass fucking. For me it was a developing thing about what I liked. At first I was disgusted by it actually and was mostly interested in oral and other forms of "play". It took some time for me to learn how to like it really. I don't know how it is for others since I've never asked.

Some people have also been saying that this stuff applies to women as well. The author of "Self-Made Man" is a lesbian but wanted to see how a man's world is. During the experience (extremely interesting BTW) she also went on dates with women as a man. She told I think all at some point that she was really a woman and after their initial "pissed/how could you" period many actually desired to continue to pursue a relationship with her anyway, even non-sexual and purely emotional.

Something that really hasn't been discussed much here is pederasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty) (wikipedia link, please read or skim, or even just see the captions). It is taboo in our western society but it surely hasn't been always throughout history and in fact still goes on but more in private than it has in the ages. I for one am into it (the younger participant) and actually find much older men a lot more attractive than those around my own age. Being bi though I also like girls my age but things get sketchy here, I've said a lot already so I won't get into this. I do however find myself attracted to a handful of guys around my age. Probably the group I can best identify with is bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_community) (another wikipedia page), as an admirer currently. Some have the bear/cub thing going on, as they put it, which is like pederasty but of legal consenting aged participants.

quote:Originally posted by MonetaryGraspOfLesions:

So in short: fuck the homosexual agenda, not all males have gay tendencies, and I bet most don't. All this, "are you sureeeeeeee?" bullshit is just trying to make more people gay. Yes, I'm fucking sure. Yes, I've thought about it. No, I don't want fucking any.

There is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda". I am homosexual, and my only agenda for most days is to eat, sleep, go to class, go to work, and maybe find something fun to do along the way.

I find women hot, and would/have sleep with them - So I can see where you're coming from. But I'm sure its not the case for some males. Socially it is acceptable (to a degree) for 2 women to be attracted/hook up with each other - but not for males. There is a lot of pressure in society, as you say, for males to not be gay. But I'm not sure I agree with you on the whole 'deep down, all men have gay tendancies'.

I seriously thought i was gay the other day..scared me SHITLESS

I'd say most males do, but not all...

There are very few "100% straight" people in this world.

I don't really find guys attractive (but I have done sexual stuff in the past) and if guys "think" about it I guess most can tell if other guys are attractive. There is also sexual stuff people associate with "gays" that I find kinda attractive.

I find it MUCH harder to judge a guy's attractiveness than I do with women (females I can tell if there is "instant physical attraction in less than a second, guys have to be "thought about" based upon what "seems" attractive about guys) however, I wouldn't say i'm totally straight, but then i'm not bisexual, i'm a wierd mixture.

I don't think it's fair to say all men have "repressed homosexuality" either, at least not on a conscious level, perhaps sport etc is a "slight" desire, but it's not a "hey, i need an excuse to get into physical contact with other men" kind of thing...

I definatly feel nervous and jittery around some women, there is the physical as well as the emmotional attraction most certainly, this doesn't happen with guys ever, but they can still be considered "sexual entities" by a lot of guys, imo, even if this is never fully realised, accepted and acted on.

The guy who wrote this thread sounds like a total poofter.

I don't believe every male has these tendencies. People who are comfortable with there sexuality don't have these tendencies. I have no problem with homosexuals. Thats their thing, good for them. Personally, I think most guys are disgusting human beings, including myself. There is nothing more beautiful in the world than the body of a female (not all of them, sorry). Guys are just horny mother fuckers. We are all pigs, some are take the next step and will hump anything that moves.

i am not aroused by (semi) naked men. Therefore i must be straight or asexual.

quote:Originally posted by Garfunkel:

..i thought this was a pretty well known fact? that supposedly everyone has same sex tendencies?

Eh. doesn't really bother me, tell you the truth.

Firstly I have not.

And secondly, how the hell can you prove every guy has.

I could say all girls are sluts, and use some as an example, is my argument valid?

I am getting out of here, before been buttraped by the puffs.

[This message has been edited by reformed_spammer (edited 11-10-2006).]

i totally understand, i hate all people as well, including myself.

hm...yea, you're right. i do have the tendency to make horrificly opinionated blanket statements.

i just wanted to get across that there is a large group of males who may in fact have gay tendencies but because of societal teachings and an overbearing superego are unaware of or afraid to act on them.

in reality, i couldn't care less what emotion turmoil these people go through, except for the fact that these males are usually the most vocal in 'anti-gay' people.

and personally, i think these guys are just prude, as in i know they could enjoy something but because they've been taught something they keep saying 'no'

relate it to that catholic school girl or prude bitch you're making out with and letting you feel her wet panties but won't let you're fingers slide in, or anythign mroe for that matter.

and also, these people offend me on an idealogical level just because they are herd animals. they're stupid, and have been taught how to act.



1. Stupidity—The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

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i dont wanna give of teh wrong impression though. i am fully aware that there are people who mean 'no' when they say 'no', and i would never think of thrusting myself on anyone.

quote:Originally posted by immersionwarning:

and by cars being phallic symbols, i meant sports cars. look at a ferrari and tell me its not one long, shiny, beautiful image of a penis.

I always find this amusing. People can't take what something is at face value. Think about it, with the same engine and weight, which vehicle is going to have better performance? A Ferrari or Jeep?

Durrr, the Ferrari. Aerodynamics don't suddenly mean "I WANT PENIS!", especially when you're seeking improved performance out of precision machines.

quote:Originally posted by struggling artist:

You know how I know I'm not gay? I CANNOT beat off thinking about men. Instant boner-kill right there.

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