I said:

"Can I tell you something and you won't get mad?"

She says:

"Yeah, what?"

I says:

"I am absolutely infactuated with you. ."

She says:

"Thats nice. . ."

What did she mean? Dose she hate me?

*devistation*

Doesn't seem she shares your feelings, probably will avoid you now

You really should have gone with liking her instead. Doesn't have that creepy wibe in it

quote:Originally posted by Pilsu:

Doesn't seem she shares your feelings, probably will avoid you now

You really should have gone with liking her instead. Doesn't have that creepy wibe in it

I started out by telling her I had a crush on her, a few months passed, I hinted around, and now tell her that I am infactuated (rather then coming right out and saying "Krista, I love you"), and this is how it turns out.

Lesson: Honesty is never the best policy

oh, it's the best policy.

maybe not always, but one bad experiance isn't proof that it's 'never' good.

besides which, you're better off knowing..

quote:Originally posted by Josh rocks:

oh, it's the best policy.

maybe not always, but one bad experiance isn't proof that it's 'never' good.

besides which, you're better off knowing..



Every time I have been honest, it has bitten me in the ass.

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# #elladamnleet

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I said:

"Can I tell you something and you won't get mad?"

She says:

"Yeah, what?"

I says:

"I am absolutely infactuated with you. ."

She says:

"Thats nice. . ."

What did she mean? Dose she hate me?

*devistation*

You should've raped her, then said, "oh by the way, I really like you".

Thats because your the kind of douche who types out his own fucking signiture (3 lines of crappy text art no less) after every post in a pathetic attempt to be noticed.

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I said:

"Can I tell you something and you won't get mad?"

She says:

"Yeah, what?"

I says:

"I am absolutely infactuated with you. ."

She says:

"Thats nice. . ."

What did she mean? Dose she hate me?

*devistation*

Haha, I'm sorry about the insensativity, but that made me laugh. Couldnt' you have done it in a more 'adult' sort of way, instead of "you cant' get mad at me" or something like that.

The fact that she said "that's nice" seems like she didn't care all that much, Did you tell her this in person, or over IM ?

Telling someone you're infatuated with them will only scare them for fuck's sake.

You should have told her you really liked her, and been GROWN UP about it, rather than just coming out and putting her in a completely dominant position. She'd only like a guy like you if you were something special and made her feel special. Understand? By telling her you're infatuated with her she now knows a) you're not very special (as you're just willing to hand yourself over to someone so easily) and b) you won't be making her feel special because she won't feel like she's achieved anything.

Think about it this way: if the fattest, nastiest, ugliest, most horrific girl in the world told you she was infatuated with you, would you feel good about yourself? Would you feel special? Would you show her off to your friends?

Fuck no. And in this situation, to her, you're like that fat ugly girl.

Why did you think she was going to be mad?

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

Why did you think she was going to be mad?

Because all this time I have been really cool with her, and talked with her about every one of her problems and stuff, asked nothing in return, and now it turns out I had a reason other than being a good friend.

You dig?

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# #elladamnleet

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

You dig?

That is just not the way to lead. It makes it sound as if you're guilty; from your explanation it sounds as if that's how you feel.

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

That is just not the way to lead. It makes it sound as if you're guilty; from your explanation it sounds as if that's how you feel.

I do feel quite guilty now. I threw away a great friendship with a single sentance. . .

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I do feel quite guilty now. I threw away a great friendship with a single sentance. . .

Live and learn, then?

Try not to regret it too much or obsess

At least she seemed kind. I've seen those situations where the girl ends up phoning the police. Holy shit.

But all in all, if you walk in tomorrow like you never said that, then... It's all good. You act cool, she follow.

See how this works?

quote:Originally posted by BluryVision:

At least she seemed kind. I've seen those situations where the girl ends up phoning the police. Holy shit.

But all in all, if you walk in tomorrow like you never said that, then... It's all good. You act cool, she follow.

See how this works?

No good. She always use to be all up in my space, leaning against me, always just being real close with me, but now she avoids me.

Did you say infactuated? Because that's not a word. Maybe she was confused?

Nice work! Sounds like you blew it! "thats nice...", yeah, I would definatly take that at face value!

cut her out of your life.

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I do feel quite guilty now. I threw away a great friendship with a single sentance. . .

If she threw your friendship away like that, then surely it wasn't as great as you thought.

quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:

Did you say infactuated? Because that's not a word. Maybe she was confused?

wait.. . . whats the propper word?! MAYBE SHE WAS CONFUSED!!!

[This message has been edited by helladamnleet (edited 09-21-2006).]

There's no 'c' it's just infatuated. She probably understood though.

Look at it this way: Is she really worth having in your life if she would give up on a friendship over something so trivial?

What did she say after "That's nice"?

i did that to one of my old friends, ut she was a bitch about it, and now i hate her, dont ever just come out and say it. i learned that the hard way.

You see, friend.

In being her shoulder to cry on, you slipped into the 'friends ladder'.

Meaning she doesn't even think of you sexually anymore, sparing her emotions for Jimmy porking her in a bathroom stall.

Lesson; Being a girl's close friend in order to get her will never, ever fucking work.

It doesn't mean you have to be an ass to her.

But don't cater to her every whim (be aloof sometimes), and when you're together, keep it in her mind that you're a sexual option by flirting.

Not just verbal, put your hands on her! If you do it confidently enough she won't mind.

After you've attracted her attention and been aloof enough for her to think.

"Wait, what?! I like him, why isn't he asking me out?! I really want him."

Then it's time to strike. But never use the word 'date' until after she uses it.

GL HF

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:



You see, friend.

In being her shoulder to cry on, you slipped into the 'friends ladder'.

Meaning she doesn't even think of you sexually anymore, sparing her emotions for Jimmy porking her in a bathroom stall.

Lesson; Being a girl's close friend in order to get her will never, ever fucking work.

It doesn't mean you have to be an ass to her.

But don't cater to her every whim (be aloof sometimes), and when you're together, keep it in her mind that you're a sexual option by flirting.

Not just verbal, put your hands on her! If you do it confidently enough she won't mind.

After you've attracted her attention and been aloof enough for her to think.

"Wait, what?! I like him, why isn't he asking me out?! I really want him."

Then it's time to strike. But never use the word 'date' until after she uses it.

GL HF

Your prolly right.

Is there any way I can fix this?

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

Your prolly right.

Is there any way I can fix this?

Nope. Move on.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

Nope. Move on.

your 100% SURE that I fucked this up for good.

There is no way I can play it off, or gain her trust back, or make it seem like a crush or something?

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

your 100% SURE that I fucked this up for good.



Yes.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

Yes.

So its fucked up for good, therefor anything I do from here out won't matter?

So I could at least TRY for closure?

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

So its fucked up for good, therefor anything I do from here out won't matter?

So I could at least TRY for closure?

It will matter because you'll be making yourself look like a desperate creep.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

It will matter because you'll be making yourself look like a desperate creep.

so trying to patch things up and just be friends will make me look like a desperate creep?!

*puts on Radiohead*

Do what I did: shoplift an Archie comic. Except in your case, you can give it to her.

quote:Originally posted by Vegetable Man:

Do what I did: shoplift an Archie comic. Except in your case, you can give it to her.

BRILLIANT! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT!

You seem pretty young. I would guess 14-15? She completely understood what you said, and she doesn't like you anymore. I know thats a hard mutha fuckin fact of life, but it's best to pick yourself up and move on. Don't talk to her any more. You'll just seem like a desperate, creepy loser.

I know that it hurts. It may hurt for awhile, but eventually you get over it. As you get older it gets easier. Let me give you some advice though. Don't count on being a girl's friend as a way to get to her heart. http://tinyurl.com/7l1m The Ladder Theory. Take it to heart.

You shouldn't limit yourself to one girl in high school. Listen carefully, because this is the truth. You'll never, ever be around so much pussy ever again.

You need to stop talking to her. She does not share your feelings, and in doing anything to try and get her back you will only make yourself fall into the trap that so many guys have fallen into. STOP talking to her completely. Erase her #. Erase her from everything. You don't need her. She is only one girl. High school and University are for meeting people and getting to know who you really are. Don't wrap yourself up in one girl.

What happened with her is that she probably just saw you as a friend, maybe someone safe to flirt with because she didnt think you'd like her. Well, many girls are heartless bitches, and they simply don't care that you like them. They'll bitch & moan, though, when Johnny Asshole doesn't like them or reciprocate or do anything other than assfuck them. Everyone has feelings, and everyone gets hurt. Just take it, learn a little, and let go of her. If she's that callous and uncaring about your feelings then she isn't deserving of your time.

I suppose the lesson from all of this is that you aren't meant to be with every girl. Keep trying, and realize that she's just one girl off the list. You have to cross off a ton of girls off that list before you find the right one to be with. You'll have all types of relationships, long ones and short ones, in your life. Let this one go, and learn from it. You did a good thing by being honest; that's not the mistake. The girl wasn't right for you, and that's just a hard lesson you need to swallow.

quote:Originally posted by D-Loc 1605:

You seem pretty young. I would guess 14-15? She completely understood what you said, and she doesn't like you anymore. I know thats a hard mutha fuckin fact of life, but it's best to pick yourself up and move on. Don't talk to her any more. You'll just seem like a desperate, creepy loser.

I know that it hurts. It may hurt for awhile, but eventually you get over it. As you get older it gets easier. Let me give you some advice though. Don't count on being a girl's friend as a way to get to her heart. http://tinyurl.com/7l1m The Ladder Theory. Take it to heart.

You shouldn't limit yourself to one girl in high school. Listen carefully, because this is the truth. You'll never, ever be around so much pussy ever again.

I was talking to some people and they think that perhaps she didn't understand what I meant, and just thought I was being a dickhole.

How does her being all flirty and up in my space constitute not liking?

I am going to talk to her tommarow and see if maybe there was a loss in communication. ..

Wish me luck!

quote:Originally posted by Fanglekai:

You need to stop talking to her. She does not share your feelings, and in doing anything to try and get her back you will only make yourself fall into the trap that so many guys have fallen into. STOP talking to her completely. Erase her #. Erase her from everything. You don't need her. She is only one girl. High school and University are for meeting people and getting to know who you really are. Don't wrap yourself up in one girl.

What happened with her is that she probably just saw you as a friend, maybe someone safe to flirt with because she didnt think you'd like her. Well, many girls are heartless bitches, and they simply don't care that you like them. They'll bitch & moan, though, when Johnny Asshole doesn't like them or reciprocate or do anything other than assfuck them. Everyone has feelings, and everyone gets hurt. Just take it, learn a little, and let go of her. If she's that callous and uncaring about your feelings then she isn't deserving of your time.

I suppose the lesson from all of this is that you aren't meant to be with every girl. Keep trying, and realize that she's just one girl off the list. You have to cross off a ton of girls off that list before you find the right one to be with. You'll have all types of relationships, long ones and short ones, in your life. Let this one go, and learn from it. You did a good thing by being honest; that's not the mistake. The girl wasn't right for you, and that's just a hard lesson you need to swallow.

its impossible to stop talking to her. I didn't meet her threw school (I would never concider a chick from school) I met my sister because she lives at her house (rents from my sister's dad) and I hang out all the time.

Long story short I either drop my own family or I endure the embaresment

It means shes in love with you and wants to marry you.

Does it really take a whole thread to figure out what it means?

I don't know your situation, but I pulled the same thing. We were really close friends, so we stayed close. I pulled it twice more, then just told her I was over in that way (in a way to explain that we could be friends same as always) AND THAT'S WHEN SHE FUCKING CAVED. Act like you don't like her any more, maybe it'll work.

quote:Originally posted by genericwittyusername:

I don't know your situation, but I pulled the same thing. We were really close friends, so we stayed close. I pulled it twice more, then just told her I was over in that way (in a way to explain that we could be friends same as always) AND THAT'S WHEN SHE FUCKING CAVED. Act like you don't like her any more, maybe it'll work.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your saying that she might have feelings for me but is just hiding them?? I'm sorry, I'm just so confused. But acting like I don't like her anymore might bring out her feelings, or will just save our friendship? Either way its good with me

As to all these people talking about "friends ladder" etc, and how it's impossible to jump from this ladder into a dating ladder...

It's essentially true. The problem is, the "friends ladder" is not appropriately named. You see, you're her friend, but you'll find that rarely is she your friend. You can be the person to listen to all her problems, but just try opening up a proper man-sized problem on her - she'll be gone in a flash.

quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:

Did you say infactuated? Because that's not a word. Maybe she was confused?

lol

[This message has been edited by jca- (edited 09-21-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by jca-:

As to all these people talking about "friends ladder" etc, and how it's impossible to jump from this ladder into a dating ladder...

It's essentially true. The problem is, the "friends ladder" is not appropriately named. You see, you're her friend, but you'll find that rarely is she your friend. You can be the person to listen to all her problems, but just try opening up a proper man-sized problem on her - she'll be gone in a flash.

lol



So your saying she was using me for support and a shoulder to cry on. . . I don't think that was the case. . . . She recently dumped her BF because he doesn't care about her life in any way.

Maybe I should have waited for the rebound to be over?!

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

No good. She always use to be all up in my space, leaning against me, always just being real close with me, but now she avoids me.

You're not being cool enough. :O!

Hmm lets see. Say something like you poor dear, just becuase I think you're pretty doesn't mean run for the hills.

quote:Originally posted by BluryVision:

You're not being cool enough. :O!

Hmm lets see. Say something like you poor dear, just becuase I think you're pretty doesn't mean run for the hills.

. . . what?

I tried calling her today but she was at work so it wasnt very succesful. .

"she's just not that into you"

I love the oprah show.

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I says:

"I am absolutely infactuated with you."

She would have liked you if you spelled it correctly.

it wasn't really a mistake, unless you wanted to stay in la-la land. now you know she doesn't reciprocate your feelings. it's reality. it might hurt, but it's true. it's not your fault you liked her. but now that you know she doesn't like you back, do you still feel the same way about her? i would think your feelings would have changed.

quote:Originally posted by carbo:

She would have liked you if you spelled it correctly.

Amen.

-Val

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

it wasn't really a mistake, unless you wanted to stay in la-la land. now you know she doesn't reciprocate your feelings. it's reality. it might hurt, but it's true. it's not your fault you liked her. but now that you know she doesn't like you back, do you still feel the same way about her? i would think your feelings would have changed.

No, my feelings are still the same, I just beet myself up all the time wondering what it is I did wrong

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

No, my feelings are still the same, I just beet myself up all the time wondering what it is I did wrong

You didn't do anything 'wrong'...she just didn't like you as you liked her. Move on to one of the other 3.7 billion.

Alright, I tried calling her for the past howmany days, and she is always at fucking work. (confirmed btw).

So I left her a little message on her phone saying "I love you Krista, I always have. It kills me knowing that you will never feel the same way. . ."

And she hasn't replied back to me. . .

That's a wonderful way to completely scare her away. Good job.

Least you had the guts to say something.

Now work on your spelling and next time it might be better.

quote:Originally posted by Iskalla:

Least you had the guts to say something.

Now work on your spelling and next time it might be better.

explain to me what I incorrectly spelled

Let it go. That's the only option left to you, that I can see.

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

Let it go. That's the only option left to you, that I can see.

OK I got a reply. . . . "Why text me? I DON'T FUCKING CARE"

and I replied with "Fine. We can both just forget each other"

Smoothe move, eh?

*gives you a cuddle*

Just talk to her, say some shit along the lines of "I'm sorry about what I said if it freaked you out, but I really like you" and if she just says she isn't interested you can still probably be friends with her.

Bad move, pal.

dont confuse them with big words

I feel embarased for you Just let the whole thing go your just gona end up hurting your self even more move on allready theres more girls out there.

quote:Originally posted by EssJay:

Just talk to her, say some shit along the lines of "I'm sorry about what I said if it freaked you out, but I really like you" and if she just says she isn't interested you can still probably be friends with her.

I tried that and she just said "I already told you I DON'T CARE!"

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

OK I got a reply. . . . "Why text me? I DON'T FUCKING CARE"

and I replied with "Fine. We can both just forget each other"

Smoothe move, eh?

What a stupid whore. Forget about her. Seriously, if you weren't infatuated you would see that she is obviously not worth any of your time or effort.

it's beginning to border on harassment now. please stop.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

it's beginning to border on harassment now. please stop.

He seems a little obsessed. Still, no reason to treat him cruelly.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Originally posted by lauren7249:

it's beginning to border on harassment now. please stop.

He seems a little obsessed. Still, no reason to treat him cruelly.



i'm not being cruel. i'm alerting him to the fact that it is becoming inappropriate to continue this manner of pursuit.

Though something like this could have been posted before, i would like to post it again (and if this hasnt been posted yet, then good for me ). Every girl is diffrent, even if all basic mental structures are the same. She could mean that she wants to break up with you, or she could want to think it over and maybe, just maybe if she thinks that it could happen she will go out with you. Then there's another thought: she didnt get what you ment. Most poeple just say, "Jennifer, I'm in love with you." That kinda thing. Update us with info if you can, i would like to know what happens.

{Kaz]

It means what you think it means. No, she's not attracted to you- but might still stick around.

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

OK I got a reply. . . . "Why text me? I DON'T FUCKING CARE"

and I replied with "Fine. We can both just forget each other"

Smoothe move, eh?



Nope, just more sadness for you. I feel bad, but I've been there and it'll pass.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:

Originally posted by helladamnleet:

OK I got a reply. . . . "Why text me? I DON'T FUCKING CARE"

and I replied with "Fine. We can both just forget each other"

Smoothe move, eh?

What a stupid whore. Forget about her. Seriously, if you weren't infatuated you would see that she is obviously not worth any of your time or effort.

She sounds insensitive and harsh to say the least, forget about her. You've got to.

quote:Originally posted by Twisted_Ferret:



What a stupid whore. Forget about her. Seriously, if you weren't infatuated you would see that she is obviously not worth any of your time or effort.

True. . .

I am just in utter disbelief that she would do that rather than just fucking say something like "I don't feel the same way. . "

idk. .

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

True. . .

I am just in utter disbelief that she would do that rather than just fucking say something like "I don't feel the same way. . "

idk. .

You have to accept it, I'm sorry that it's the response you received. There is nothing there for you in the way you're looking towards.

That is all.

For the most part, I agree with the latter theory, other then the rating format, it's true for I'd say 85% of the population, comes from observation and a tiny bit of experience. That 15% is the "LIEK OMGF, I WANT TO PISS LOVE ON YOU" relationship material. You can make a friend into a girl/boyfriend.

But there is a time limit. Different for every person and situation. It's basicly the ammount of time that passes by in a friendship before it is sealed into a friendship. Sometimes it's a few months. Sometimes a year. Rarely is it more then a year. I speak from observation and questioning people when I say this.

You should leave this girl alone for a few months now...Let her come back on her own if she ever wants to ofcourse.

it means "holy shit you're a creep I never want to see you again stay the fuck away from me you'll emberrass me in front of my friends and you look like a rapist"

Sorry.

OKAY I have come to terms, what is my next step?

Get ANGRY and destroy myself slowly, or get EMO and cut myself slowly?

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

OKAY I have come to terms, what is my next step?

Get ANGRY and destroy myself slowly, or get EMO and cut myself slowly?

how about, find some other girls to get interested in, and realize they're not all the same and some are bound to dislike you, while others will find you appealing...

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

how about, find some other girls to get interested in, and realize they're not all the same and some are bound to dislike you, while others will find you appealing...

I'm fucking threw with dating.

To many times have I been fucked over.

I'm dedicating my life to crime

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I'm fucking threw with dating.

To many times have I been fucked over.

I'm dedicating my life to crime

didn't you ever fall off a bicycle? did you just lay there? haven't you ever dropped a cookie? did you stop eating cookies after that? geeez....

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

didn't you ever fall off a bicycle? did you just lay there? haven't you ever dropped a cookie? did you stop eating cookies after that? geeez....

Did you ever REPEATEDLY fall of said bike?

Did the cookie just fucking LEAP out of your hand every time?

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

I said:

"Can I tell you something and you won't get mad?"

She says:

"Yeah, what?"

I says:

"I am absolutely infactuated with you. ."

She says:

"Thats nice. . ."

What did she mean? Dose she hate me?

*devistation*



dude, it's not that she doesn't like you, don't worry, it's that she fucking hates you period.

She just called me and cleared things up.



It wasn't her who texted that very rude reply, it was her friend Paul.

Well I had thought it a little odd that she would mutter her hate for me when I left her a voice mail.

But now she is EXTREAMLY flirty with me.



Thanks for the help though Totse.

quote:Originally posted by Grimpaled:

That's a wonderful way to completely scare her away. Good job.

Don't be hurt, act as though you said it as a joke. In fact say 'Infactuated with you'. Act as though you culdn't be infatuated with her.

You can go from friend to lover with girls it happens all the time. But not by saying 'I love you can we be lovers' bt rather by teasing her being mildly suggestive and flirting with her. Why is that so hard to understand.

And all the guys saying that you can't go from friends to lovers why would you go out with someone who wan't your friend.

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

No, my feelings are still the same, I just beet myself up all the time wondering what it is I did wrong

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

wondering what it is I did wrong

quote:Originally posted by helladamnleet:

beet

If there's one thing I've learned, it's that having one of those conversations in which you pour out your soul and give your heart on a platter to a girl NEVER, EVER, EVER works if you want to get with her. Don't do it.