Sigh. The time's finally come, I've found a girl. She's extremely cool, even if she's only 16, and I even find her really sexually attractive. She's been hiding a killer body all the time apparently, and argh when she gets horny, boy does she get... Rah, sexy.

Anyways, I'm a virgin, she isn't, she's had a bf. That's just bugging the crap out of me. If she was a virgin as well, everything would be perfect, but argh... She isn't. She's 16, I'm 20, and she'll be the experienced one...

Now I just wanna know, have any of you old virgin guys had the option to have sex, but had a real time doing it? Like maybe contemplating saving it for the one and only and yada yada?

I'm pretty sure there'll be no one here that has any such feelings, but you never know...

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum4/HTML/023498.html

there is no one and only mate. there'll always be another girl.

I've talked with you. You don't believe in that waiting for the one and only thing. Don't use that excuse if you're just nervous or embarassed.

Does she know you're a virgin? Have you talked about it?

No, i'm not a virgin anymore but i have a hard time to get laid

I had a few opportunities in the teen years, but there werent any serious relationships that lasted longer then a month, so I never indulged in them. That may be the reason they didnt last any longer, because the girls I dated were more experienced and definitely wanted action.

I feel where you're coming from. It was important to me that my first time be her first time too. I didnt want my virginity to be just another lay for her. Unfortunately, it seems virgins are scarcer and scarcer nowadays. I ended up losing it at 21 with a 17 year old that I had been dating for a while. She was a virgin too, and she's still the only girl I've been with.

....its complicated....

Haha I understand why you'd think of me like that euda, cos I know how I talk about girls and that sorta stuff on the irc channel but... Beneath all that stupid shit, there's a bit of a romantic hiding.

Sure I'm nervous and stuff about the sex and stuff, but I told her I'm a virgin. She said she had a suspicion, cos I seemed to be so careful with that sorta stuff.

When I told her, she was like... Ah I see, well I know where my limit's at then. And then I said like hey who said anything about a limit? Then she's like weeell the first time should be special...

I explained to her that maybe I thought she was just about special enough. Cos I kinda feel like that is the case, I'm just pretty sure I won't end up marrying her and spending the rest of my life with her.

Sigh, anyways, what are the odds of a beautiful cool virgin waiting for me out there?

Oh and sorry jackketch, didn't see that thread :/

...i had many a times of oppertunity ... but its meaningless and she was a whore

quote:Originally posted by xAx:

...i had many a times of oppertunity ... but its meaningless and she was a whore

you're clearly not very experienced. Sooner or later you'll find out all women, deep down, are whores, just as all men are complete cunts.

But what about hermaphredites?

/me clears throat.

WHY THE BLOODY FUCKING CUNTRAG DOES HER BEING A VIRGIN MATTER?!?

Because, Lotek, he wants to be the first man to steer his vessel into port!

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

Because, Lotek, he wants to be the first man to steer his vessel into port!

Haha. Best analogy all day.

it dosent have to be her first tiem for it to be meaningful...

(altho i will give it to you that you loose the aspect of "even if she leaves me, the bitch will always have to think of me the rest of her life")

quote:Originally posted by Lotek:

"even if she leaves me, the bitch will always have to think of me the rest of her life"

Lol, Kids.

That makes me want to fuck a virgin. I never really saw any appeal to it before, but now I kinda want to.

*adds to list of things to do before dying*

Heh, I barely remember the first guy I slept with...And I was with him for 3 years!

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

Heh, I barely remember the first guy I slept with...And I was with him for 3 years!

Are you serious!?

I thought that would be something everyone remembers quite vividly for the rest of their lives.

I remember when I lost my virginity like it was yesterday...

Not being able to keep it hard... Having to beg her back into bed to continue while I jacked off under the covers... The girl who introduced us on my computer in the same room... When she laughed at me after I asked; "Where does it all go?" after I came inside her...

Oh, and the awkward 3 hours beforehand since I had no idea what to do.

Maybe it's something I should try to forget...

Thank you gadzooks, I needed that.

quote:Originally posted by SilentMind:

Thank you gadzooks, I needed that.

Anytime.

Well you know, it was like 11 years ago now!

Damn people, the more I read stories of people losing their virginity on Totse the more badass I feel. My first time was great, went off without a hitch, and I even pulled out in time(please don't flame us for relying on that at a time with me being a virgin, I know it was stupid, I wont do it again).

this is kinda off topic, but i really must know, like how do people that are like 19-25 end up dating 15-17 yr olds. Like what do you do, hang out by the local highschool all day?

quote:Originally posted by Crash:

this is kinda off topic, but i really must know, like how do people that are like 19-25 end up dating 15-17 yr olds. Like what do you do, hang out by the local highschool all day?

Some high school students venture outside of their homes and school once in a while.

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Haha. Best analogy all day.

lol yup

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

Some high school students venture outside of their homes and school once in a while.

true, but i cant really think of social situations that involve high school students and much older people. For example, in my experience house parties contained people that were all around the same age. Maybe if u went to the mall and randomly chatted up some high school girls i guess that would work. Or a club with an all ages night i suppose. And just so u guys kno, im interested bc im 18 and just moved for school but i kinda want a girl thats like 16-17, but im not sure where to find some without looking like some creep

quote:Originally posted by Crash:

Maybe if u went to the mall and randomly chatted up some high school girls i guess that would work.

That's where it all starts. Then once you penetrate the younger social circles, you are introduced to quite alot of younger people. Especially if they are popular to begin with.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

*adds to list of things to do before dying*

*adds to her list as well*

I actually met her on this stupid booze-cruise thing. She probably shouldn't be there but, rowing season was just over and it's tradition for all the boats to go on this cruise and well I just went along to get wasted...

I just sat down next to her, cos she looked bored and I didn't have anything better to do. We talked for a while and it just clicked damnit. I knew that it was crazy cos she was so young, but man she was funny, got my jokes, intelligent apparently and yeah... It was all good.

Anyways, I have to go to work in 45 minutes. Have I had any sleep tonight? Nope, after camming a litttle with my girl, we simply HAD to meet and I drove over and picked her up, we made out and all sorts of stuff in the car and well... Sex is definitely not far off, we can't get enough of each other, and apparently I'm really good at doing stuff. Mwah she's a moaner, I fucking love it... Apparently she just can't control it and she doesn't like it, but it turns me on so bad. Especially with the spasms she has...

But back on topic, I HATE it when she says anything about her former sexlife. I don't know anything about it but... She said things like "just so you know it, you're fantastic at this". That was awesome to hear, but man she made me feel like this total newbie, like she was this expert. And then she said my foreplay was better than sex... Which I was happy to hear. But then she said been there, done that. Did not appreciate that...

I just go a little crazy inside my head every time I think of how there's been someone else. Dangit, what if there's been more than her ex bf? I only know of him, but man if there's been other guys

Listen up. I'm currently dating a girl who had an on and off relationship with my current roommmate (of two years) and I've heard and dealt with it all. For example, try having your roommate smack his balls on something on accident, witnessing the conversation turn to how his balls must be huge to get in the way all the time, and then hearing your girlfriend vouche for the normal size of his balls, all in front of you both. Yeah we had some pretty good laughs at that.

Don't think about her past. I'm a virgin currently, and being a man of 21 and not having given in to meaningless sex does a number on your psyche. I have routinely thought that I should find a nice virgin girl and we could give each other our first times and magic rainbows could pour out of our asses as we came yada yada yada. I've since realized that the reality of it is that people have sex, and my choice is not the same as others.

I'm not sure how serious you are about this girl. In my case I'm having a fantastic time and things generally go very well most of the time. I could see myself being with this girl for a very long time, and that is why I may eventually loose my virginity to her (I'm talking before marriage, because after I'm hitched I'm obviously going to be screwing like a rabbit). But it has to be right for both her AND you. She may be all over you, tell you that she wants it, etc. BUT... there is an amazing amount of great relationship things to be had out of abstaining for a bit. When you resist sex you show her that you have will power and are in control of your desires. This inherently shows very good, masculine, desirable traits and also reflects how well you will deal with temptation by other women. Abstaining builds trust and shows you're serious about developing a distraction free friendship with your partner before amplifying your feelings through physical intimacy.

I always believed that love should come before sex, and should not be the product of sex. I feel strongly that if it takes physical intimacy to say "I love you" and mean it 100%, then you probably should continue growing emotionally before doing the deed.

Thanks for this thread. Helped me to get some new perspective on my own situation, and hope you get something from it too perhaps.

Cheers.

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

Because, Lotek, he wants to be the first man to steer his vessel into port!



quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

I thought that would be something everyone remembers quite vividly for the rest of their lives.

I remember when I lost my virginity like it was yesterday...

Not being able to keep it hard... Having to beg her back into bed to continue while I jacked off under the covers... The girl who introduced us on my computer in the same room... When she laughed at me after I asked; "Where does it all go?" after I came inside her...

Oh, and the awkward 3 hours beforehand since I had no idea what to do.

Maybe it's something I should try to forget...

hahaha. ouch. how old were you?

quote:Originally posted by Argus:

hahaha. ouch. how old were you?

Sadly, I was 18.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

Not being able to keep it hard... Having to beg her back into bed to continue while I jacked off under the covers...

Hahaha, that happened to me on my first time last weekend. Now I'm nervous about the next time aswell. How did you sort it out?

quote:Originally posted by Pulse:

How did you sort it out?

I eventually got hard again, luckily.

She was pulling her pants up, and I was just like: "NO WAIT! PLEASE!! I CAN DO THIS I SWEAR!"

She was just like "ok... fine..." and got back into bed with me. A few minutes later I was back in business.

This might be a medical problem though, as it happened alot for years after my first time.

Hey thanks for an interesting post sandmander... Sounds like your circumstances should provide you with plenties of awkward moments yeah, with the whole her having been with your friend and all.

Yeah the whole abstaining thing may show a thing or two about a guy, but the fact is that I ain't no masculine guy who can control his desires and stuff. I'm weak :/

Eh I do wish I had the willpower you have. I'm just kinda scared of never finding the right right girl... So far this one is definitely the closest I've been cos wah we just have really similar mentalities and have lots of fun...

But I don't really feel butterflies in my stomach, I don't go around dreaming of her... I once was in love like that. With a girl on the internet. Turned out the pics were fake, she was a chubby one. I miss that magical feeling... But I'm afraid it'll never come back.

Right now all I think is that I'm not very likely to find a girl that I like as much as this one. Sigh, now I'm starting to wonder if I should just back out of the whole thing, seeing as I may not love her.

i can still remember when to my mind being a virgin was the most embarrasing thing, all my friends(i found out later most of them were lying)were bragging about losing their virginity,so i HAD to hurry up and lose mine,just to save face.i really wish i had waited,my first sexual experiance was the most embarrasing moment of my life,i picked the biggest slut i could find and proceeded to have the fastest worst sex known to mankind.when all was done all i could do was say im sorry and make excuse after excuse why it was so bad,i was 15 and after it was over i didnt feel like i had accomplished any great deed,for some reason though i had a lot of anger towards women after that,and spent the next 15 years useing and abusing girls,all i was after was sex,and i treated a lot of really nice girls like shit,it just turned into a lets see how many girls i can fuck contest,and pretty much stayed that way until just a few years ago.i dont think i would have been as big a mess if i had waited to have sex and found a good girl for my first time. wow this was a long and rambling post ..sorry

so is wanting to hold onto virginity really a valid excuse for not being able to get anyone to fuck you?? i think if you can't get anyone to have sex with you, and you're desperate you might as well settle for what you can get now... you won't be young forever, the leaves will be falling the trees soon if you know what i mean..

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

I eventually got hard again, luckily.

She was pulling her pants up, and I was just like: "NO WAIT! PLEASE!! I CAN DO THIS I SWEAR!"

She was just like "ok... fine..." and got back into bed with me. A few minutes later I was back in business.

This might be a medical problem though, as it happened alot for years after my first time.

Oh man. That's hilarious... but horrible. I think I would've just hid under the covers.

gadzooks is in the closet and he also has a panty fetish!

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

he also has a panty fetish!

Only for yours!

Oh, and this one friend of mine who I used to have an obsessive crush on for like 2 years. I was at her place once, and she was doing laundry, and I noticed and picked up a pair of her underwear. I asked her how much she would charge me for it (jokingly, obviously).

All she said was that it would have to at least cover the amount she paid for them in the first place.

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

gadzooks is in the closet

I'm out!! I'm out of this proverbial closet!

I'm not gay, I'm just asexual if anything. But even entirely that.

What closet do you think I'm in!? (besides yours, looking for your underwear? )

Oh you and your sweet talking!:P

I think you're ready for sex. You're 20 years old. You're not some innocent little teen who's being pressured into it by his peers or the media. You actually want it, badly. (Excuse me if I'm wrong.) It's now a question of obsession with perfection. Unless you wait until marriage, the chances of your first time being perfect and ultra-special aren't that high. I'm not saying that you should go for it immediately. It's just that you guys seem to have a really great connection. You may not realize that since you haven't dated too many other girls, but from what you've told me, the sexual attraction and chemistry between you two exceeds that of many boy-girl relationships. If you want it and she wants it, I don't see a reason to hold off just because of performance anxiety.

Now, the other side of the issue. Sex changes relationships. It also can dissipate some of the extreme energy you've built up. This can work in positive and negative ways. But once you venture into this teritorry, there will be things you'll have to watch out for. (I won't enumerate all these points, but if you come online when issues arise I'd be glad to talk about them.)

honestly this chick sounds like an ex of mine, i hope you get venerial(sp?multitasking) disesase and realize what an idiot you are if it's her lol her names stephanie

Congratulations, B-Phaze.

I'm 19, a virgin, and all my friends have girlfriends. They are all dumbfounded that I am still a virgin, which is comforting I guess.

I've made friends with a few girls and it seemed to go somewhere, but I'm not good at initiating things since I have a low self esteem. I isolate myself and I'm missing out on a lot for that reason.

When people actually seem to like me, I just don't get it, so I have a hard time returning the affection.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

I'm sorta afraid that if we have sex, hald the excitement will disappear, and we'll just be... A boring ol' couple.

There is no logical reason to assume that would happen in your current situation, but wouldn't happen if you waited any longer.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Anyways, the way things are progressing... I'll probably have lost my virginity by the end of this week. Or in the near future anyways.

I'm not sure about this new schedule, but enjoy.

...hmmmm i dont wanna lose it untilim 16 ...im fourteen and i have a few oppertunities to before

quote:Originally posted by Byss:

There is no logical reason to assume that would happen in your current situation, but wouldn't happen if you waited any longer.

That's a pretty good point.

Sigh, I have to buy condoms. How the hell do I buy condoms? I'm gonna have to get out of town, to find a store where I don't know all the employees... Crap, I'm 20 and I don't have the balls to buy condoms.

quote:Originally posted by smallpox champion:

Congratulations, B-Phaze.

I'm 19, a virgin, and all my friends have girlfriends. They are all dumbfounded that I am still a virgin, which is comforting I guess.

I've made friends with a few girls and it seemed to go somewhere, but I'm not good at initiating things since I have a low self esteem. I isolate myself and I'm missing out on a lot for that reason.

When people actually seem to like me, I just don't get it, so I have a hard time returning the affection.

You're my doppelganger.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

That's a pretty good point.

Sigh, I have to buy condoms. How the hell do I buy condoms? I'm gonna have to get out of town, to find a store where I don't know all the employees... Crap, I'm 20 and I don't have the balls to buy condoms.

www.condomdepot.com (http://www.condomdepot.com) has free shipping and discreet packaging. I ordered from them once. It shows up at some LLC charge on your bank statement, and the shipment comes in plain packaging.

Haha, brilliant fanglekai, thanks for the tip...

Sigh... We're so close now but... The fact that she has such a history, the fact that she's had sexual experience... It all scares me like crap. Or bugs me rather... I wanna just scream at her for not having waited for me. I also want her to just forget about the other guy... I want her to stop reminding me that she's had sex before. Argh, I'm getting all sentimental here, she's so cool but damnit right now I wish she hadn't been with him.

Why that crazy fucker? He's absolutely nothing like me and... She's so much better than him. Not that he's a bad guy, he's nice but... I don't see what she'd see in him. Garr...

I've over the last month realized that I'm a complete and utter commitophobe, and I can't do anything out of the ordinary without all circumstances being perfect. I'm watching my life passing me by...

some of the excitement may very well lessen. it may also intensify. it all depends.

Man, this sure is getting to me...

I asked her yesterday if there'd only been her ex. Yeah that was the case... I then said gah, it'd just be so much easier if you'd be a virgin too. She then said yeah that's true... But there's no changing what's been done, and I promised myself I'd never regret what I did. You are making that hard though...

Since then I've been very argh. It takes a lot to get me worked up, but every now and then when I think of what she's done, I wanna pount my fist into something, break something or just whatever. I get so angry... I feel more and more how right she is for me, but just this one issue is killing me. It feels pretty unfair, cos does she deserve me being angry at her for having had sex with her boyfriend? Nah...

It's just that... She gets so friggen horny, and wants me sooo bad, but wrah sometimes I feel that... Maybe she's just using me to pursue the feeling that HE gave her? She just wants me cos she's built an appetite for sex, and needs it now...

She keeps telling me there's no pressure, and that I shouldn't be affect by the way she gets caught in the moment. This ain't easy on me, sigh... At work today, wah it's sort of a physical labour thing... When no one was looking I'd just throw things down to the floor really hard. Like when I think of certain things, I have to do that... Anyone know that feeling?

Dude i had the same experience, same background, im even the same age as you. My suggestion would be to forget about her NOWWWWWW if you expect any kind of commitment out of her. Sadly, i am slowly finding out that most girls are whores that will eventually get tired of you and throw away everything you ever shared for some shady dude that knows how to talk smooth.

I met my ex when she was 15 and i was 17, almost 18. we were on and off for like two years and when i first met her, she had never even kissed before. and EVERY time we were 'off' since then, she would always mess around or w/e and then come back to me.

well i got tired of it. now she's in college and i don't know what kind of ho stuff she's doing, and i don't care. You just never know how far she took it with the other guys, and you're always left wondering. i hate that feeling of not knowing, and it would almost be better if they lied and said they were virgins anyway.

sorry, im kind of venting here but that's my $.02

ps. my ex was a moaner too, and she did this nice little thing rocking her hips back on forth if you rubbed her the right way. yeah i miss it. damn im horny..

AHH see my problem is im SOOOO horny, but i just don't want to throw it all away on some slut. but it's just a matter of time i guess..

[This message has been edited by ricehunter (edited 09-22-2006).]

I'm thinking I'll probably (http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum4/HTML/023594.html) lose my virginity imminently too, and I have no illusions about it sucking horribly the first time.

Welcome to vent about such things here ricehunter, thanks for the contribution!

Yeah, knowing these things is horrible... Ah the horrible thing is though, right now I'm talking to her on msn, camming and all and... Sigh, she's so right. She's so cool, nice and funny. But argh... All that perferction's gone down the drain... That guy did not deserve her.

Hey B-Phaze.. i hear ya man. Another thing that was wrong with my relationship was that it was long distance... so im sure that contribuited to a lot of the problems, i don't know if that is the case with you. so of course, we would talk a lot online and stuff, but even then, i could never know what was REALLY going on. and when i would visit i could tell something was off.

ah what the hell, i'll admit it. i got played. actually, SHE MANAGED TO PLAY TWO GUYS AT ONCE!

My only saving grace was that i was the one that dumped her

anyways, i would just be careful if i were you and don't put all of your emotion into it. or maybe i have trust issues... THANKS TO HER.

ok. im done.

i think it's unnecessary jealously, almost primal emotion. it's not her fault!

I know it's not her fault, but I just can't seem to properly realize it and I get so friggen angry at her... I mean I've never shown that it gets to me that bad, but boy, it does. After last nights talk to, I just don't think I can resist her anymore, I have to friggen do it. Wah, so sexy...

When I first found out that my husband had done EAS AND oral sex with his whore ex girlfriend...I was jealous. I had wanted to be his first for those things like he was my first...And like you, I wondered if he was secretly comparing me to her. But you know what? When I finally asked him about it he said, "You think I compare you to HER?? She was so bad at oral I had to finally ask her to not do it anymore, but you...You are so much better than her in every way. I never cared about her, but I LOVE you." And then I realised how silly I was to worry about it. I mean it's not like I ever compared him to my ex boyfriend!

quote:Sigh, we're gonna hang tonight, boy it's gonna get physical :/[/B]

Give her some great head. Let me know how it goes.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Ah crap, I just came home from her place and... I'm pretty sure I won't be a virgin anymore, once this week's over.

Oh no!

Won't somebody help him?

Do you compare her to chicks you've thought of when you wack off?

I bet not...

That's how she feels about you, compared to her ex, you're the one she's with dammit!!

As for the sex thing, do what you feel is right, if you really are intent on waiting until marriage or whatever, then make that clear to her.

I don't see the point in saying you will wait, and then going against it, that's just unneccesary confusion, might as well just sexor asap

Yeah uhm... I'm pretty sure it's gonna happen tonight. Well, if the circumstances allow it. We're gonna be at her place, and I think uhm... Well if we do shit in her room, and get loud, her parents totally hear it in their room...

I have to get an apartment :/

quote:Originally posted by Sick_Boy:

*adds to her list as well*

You know man dont feel bad. Read up with some sex books, talking to your friends that are girls should help.Im also (sadly) a virgin at 17.Sickboy take my virginity!!

Hmm okay didn't lose my virginity. Her parents were even out of the house but... We sorta fell asleep to a movie. Still, just lying there with her was awesome

Even though I sometimes thought wrah I'll bet her ex used to lay here as well... And I looked over at the bed, yeah where they used to have sex. And I saw here secret box... Only knew that it contained condoms. She has told me there are other things though, things that you just don't wanna let go of. Loveletters from her ex? Probably something stupid like that...

I really need to stop thinking like that. Mwah just looking at her tonight I realized there's no way I'm gonna find another girl that cool around here...

im a virgin, and i want to keep it that way till im married. I just think that its better that way.

quote:Originally posted by person:

im a virgin, and i want to keep it that way till im married. I just think that its better that way.

I too like the idea of saving myself for the perfect girl but... Don't you ever worry that maybe you won't find her? That maybe one day you'll regret not having done anything, in your younger days?

Just fuck her already.

So how did things go, B-Phaze?

Well no real updates really. We haven't gotten physical like we did friday night again, never really had the opportunity but, we're getting closer in other ways.

Yesterday we talked about a potential relationship, and it appears we have basically the same fears of all kinds of things. Like we're afraid that we match so well that if we do come together properly, we'll just be together forever :/

Anyways, next week there's uhm... Whatya call it, a fall holiday. I'm taking a week off work, and she's getting a week off of school, and we'll probably get it done then.

To be honest I still have my fears now and then, I still wanna smash something when I think of the guy but... Last night we had a great talk, and I now know more about their relationship and feel much more comfortable doing shit with her. So yeeeah... I'll keep you updated guys. I don't think I'll be able to hold it much longer.

Damnit she gets so horny, so easily. Apparently it's an effect I have on her, how cool is that... Too bad I sometimes think she only likes me for my hand and it's magic touch

If she didn't like you so well, your hand wouldn't HAVE that "magic touch."

Dude, I didn't care about getting laid for the longest time. Then I just kind of did, and I'll be honest...I regret it. It'

s shitty feeling being "just another" guy. As pussy as it sounds, wait. You're 20 though? Damn dude.

CaspeR

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

If she didn't like you so well, your hand wouldn't HAVE that "magic touch."

soooo true. couldn't be more true. an immutable truth.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Sigh. The time's finally come, I*ve found a girl. She's extremely cool, even if she's only 16, and over time I've even grown to find her sexually attractive. She's been hiding a killer body all the time apparently, and argh when she gets horny, boy does she get... Rah, sexy.

Anyways, I'm a virgin, she isn't, she's had a bf. That's just bugging the crap out of me. If she was a virgin as well, everything would be perfect, but argh... She isn't. She's 16, I'm 20, and she'll be the experienced one...

Now I just wanna know, have any of you old virgin guys had the option to have sex, but had a real time doing it? Like maybe contemplating saving it for the one and only and yada yada?

I'm pretty sure there'll be no one here that has any such feelings, but you never know...

^

40 yr old virgin candidate, but can he beat 41? only time will tell lol 20 yr old virgins how couldnt it happen for you.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Haha, brilliant fanglekai, thanks for the tip...

Sigh... We're so close now but... The fact that she has such a history, the fact that she's had sexual experience... It all scares me like crap. Or bugs me rather... I wanna just scream at her for not having waited for me. I also want her to just forget about the other guy... I want her to stop reminding me that she's had sex before. Argh, I'm getting all sentimental here, she's so cool but damnit right now I wish she hadn't been with him.

Why that crazy fucker? He's absolutely nothing like me and... She's so much better than him. Not that he's a bad guy, he's nice but... I don't see what she'd see in him. Garr...

I've over the last month realized that I'm a complete and utter commitophobe, and I can't do anything out of the ordinary without all circumstances being perfect. I'm watching my life passing me by...

this must be fake even liberache wasnt this much of a pussy

quote:Originally posted by weedman:

this must be fake even liberache wasnt this much of a pussy

no, b-phaze is for real.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

no, b-phaze is for real.

Yes, oaf is one of a kind.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Hmm okay didn't lose my virginity. Her parents were even out of the house but... We sorta fell asleep to a movie. Still, just lying there with her was awesome

Even though I sometimes thought wrah I'll bet her ex used to lay here as well... And I looked over at the bed, yeah where they used to have sex. And I saw here secret box... Only knew that it contained condoms. She has told me there are other things though, things that you just don't wanna let go of. Loveletters from her ex? Probably something stupid like that...

I really need to stop thinking like that. Mwah just looking at her tonight I realized there's no way I'm gonna find another girl that cool around here...

shes gnna b pissed when shes spent all this time with an older guy cuz she thought he had expierience and then finds out yur a virgin when you cum after 30 seconds lol videotape it plz AFHV you'll make the 10000 dollars for sure

Well thanks for mocking me guys, though I've always been well aware of it, it's nice to be reminded that I am a pussy and a 20 year old virgin.

To the last poster, she knows I'm a virgin.

The other day when we had this long talk, about our various fears of relationships, she said like "oh and I keep thinking whe's he gonna realize he can get any girl he wants and leave me?"

Wah, she made me thing all the thoughts I don't wanna think. The whole I can do better thing... But you know, I think that for a first time being physically attracted to her is good, but dude I can just go out and do one night stands or whatever with hotties after this. For my first girl I'd like to like her as much as I do this one.

The big question is how I'll feel when we break up or something. Was it then still the right thing to do? I know I wasn't just another guy, I know it was special, and hot as hell. Isn't that perhaps enough to justify it? Next week is closing in on me, and I need to get clear on this :/

Don't dwell on the future so much. Take a moment and enjoy what's going on.

You don't want to be just another notch on her belt, but you're already thinking about notching your own. Irony?

Don't justify it, enjoy it.

You are wise euda, you are wise.

I shall do that, enjoy... As soon as I get her ex outta my system anyways.

People make such a big deal about being a virgin, but its just they have a fucked up perspective. You think how much sexier it is if you think a chicks a virgin? Well its the same the other way around! I tell chicks im a virgin all the time, its usually another bullet in my gun.

you suck if you're 20 and a virgin, just FUCK that bitch already and stop whining

i have a feeling you're not going to understand this until you break up with her and go out with someone else. live and learn. just make sure you do things honestly, humbly, mindfully of her feelings, and respectfully. but cross that bridge when you come to it. in the meantime, if it's exciting enough for you to be updating us 24/7 (which is awesome - keep doing it), then you should enjoy it without worrying too much about the future.

edit: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum4/HTML/023763.html

that guy's situation is sort of an example of what could happen in the future if you take what you have for granted too much.

[This message has been edited by lauren7249 (edited 09-27-2006).]

Eh yeah I don't wanna end up like that guy... Then again that's part of my whole commitophobia thing, the fear of hurting her eventually. But we're sorta clear on that and I've decided that that may just happen one day, and that's just too bad... Might as well be her that hurts me as well.

The funny thing is that I've found out she has all sorts of fears as well, so it's really nice to know you're not the only one. She kinda promised herself she wouldn't get into this kinda thing again, cos her ex hurt her a lot.

And apparently she too has the fear of just staying with me the rest of her life, cos shouldn't she try more things? That's kinda the problem, we feel that we could be together forever without problems. Ah well...

Anyways, wrah, this friggen holiday week I've been looking forward to, turns out it's like next next week, not now next week. What a fricken bummer... But well I'm gonna sorta have the house to myself this weekend, only my stupid little brother around.

Me and the girl are gonna see a movie tomorrow night, if I'm not working, and after that I guess we'll go to my place. Who knows what can happen after a romantic night?

*crosses fingers for brother going out or something*

And yeah I'm glad you like my constant updates lauren, I'm sure it's bugging the crap outta lots of people. I'm just sorta venting and well hoping to keep this baby alive until I finally do that wild monkey dance.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

I think it's gonna happen tonight. I'm gonna have sex. With a girl. That ain't quite in my league, but what the heck.

Argh, but I... uhm... I bought the wrong condoms. Apparently they're uhm... "roomy". Like not for huge guys or anything, I think they're just not that tight around the head. Heck I'll try it out right now.

Wish me luck?

Godspeed!

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

I think it's gonna happen tonight. I'm gonna have sex. With a girl. That ain't quite in my league, but what the heck.

Argh, but I... uhm... I bought the wrong condoms. Apparently they're uhm... "roomy". Like not for huge guys or anything, I think they're just not that tight around the head. Heck I'll try it out right now.

Wish me luck?

don't expect your first time to be too amazing, ok? if it is, great. if not don't be too disappointed. it gets better.

a black spot? does it itch or hurt? it doesn't sound like an std to me....

It's just a bruise from some roughness on her part.

He described it poorly.

[This message has been edited by Euda (edited 09-30-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Hmm nooow... Do I regret doing it? Yeah probably. It was awesome, but mnyeh, I think she managed to talk me into regretting it.

Sigh... Sex, was it a good idea or a bad idea? Early to tell, but I think I should have trusted my initial instinct that told me this would end in disaster.

Why regret?

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Well mostly because I didn't know she made such a big deal of it! Had I known she was still like kinda... Hoping to perhaps save herself somewhat for a special special someone, I would've let her, I didn't wanna take anything from her.

Also it's gonna be impossible for me to ever leave her now. Not that there's any good reason to do that, I'm just not sure if I'm in love. I'm not really feeling any butterflies, you know? I just like her a lot, she's funny and cute and we get along well.

I just don't know if sex was the way to go :/

awwwwww....

don't make too much of it. you guys were horny an did what was natural. and you know the thing is, you don't have to keep having sex just because you did it once (or twice). if sex isn't something you want in your relationship, it's okay to stop now. and don't worry about being with her forever. you guys are both kind of high from the hormones are are bound to say things that are a tad .... idealistic. so treat the relationship the same as you did before.

Sounds like good advice lauren, thanks for always having a good opinion on these things

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Sounds like good advice lauren, thanks for always having a good opinion on these things



you're welcome, and i love advising you.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:



you're welcome, and i love advising you.

don't let her boss you around like this.

quote:Originally posted by Zinedine Zidane:

don't let her boss you around like this.



are you serious? stop projecting your control issues on to others! i meant i like to hear what's going on in his life, not that i like telling him what to do!

oaf needs angels whispering in his ears.

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Crap, still, I can't believe I'm telling a girl that I love her. When I may not love her. I feel so friggen bad...

Right. Not quite what I meant about angels, but good metaphor.

If you aren't sure about love, then talk to her about that soon. I'm sure you'll be able to figure out how. You can't leave her believeing there is love and yank the carpet out from under her later.

[This message has been edited by Euda (edited 10-01-2006).]

Yeah you think just confronting her with it is a good idea? I was contemplating the idea.

I mwan I just wanna ask her "uhm, are you sure you love me? Is that the right word cos... I don't really see why you would love me. What exactly have I given you? We just hang out a lot and get along well.".

Is is possible that she feels something stronger than I do? I just don't see why she would...

Oh and yeah I didn't really think that was what you meant, but then I realized that yeah it kinda was a good metaphor

[This message has been edited by B-Phaze (edited 10-01-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

I mwan I just wanna ask her "uhm, are you sure you love me? Is that the right word cos... I don't really see why you would love me. What exactly have I given you? We just hang out a lot and get along well.".

You're smart enough to realize this is a bad idea.

You aren't doubting her love. You're doubting yourself.

What do you think you have to give someone for there to be love?

quote:Originally posted by B-Phaze:

Wah, you know me too well euda

You're right, I am doubting myself and... I don't wanna ask her about that.

And I do understand why she loves me, I'm nice to her, I make her laugh, I give her compliments and we hang out a lot. I get her, she gets me, we have fun. She's grown fond of me, it just happens I guess. Dangit... It just kinda feels like girls get attached easier?

I mean I'd miss her if I lost her now but... Wrah, do I feel any love? I'm not so sure



so maybe you can say something like, "(her name), i was thinking. like, obviously we get along great and i love hanging out with you. the other night, though, i was so caught up in the moment and how great it was that i said 'i love you,' when i don't really know if i mean it. i mean, i think you're great obviously, i'm just not sure that that was the right way of describing my feelings."

that's sort of a way to "take back" the i love you without making her feel bad about it. chances are she'll be like, "yeah, i feel the same."

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:



so maybe you can say something like, "(her name), i was thinking. like, obviously we get along great and i love hanging out with you. the other night, though, i was so caught up in the moment and how great it was that i said 'i love you,' when i don't really know if i mean it. i mean, i think you're great obviously, i'm just not sure that that was the right way of describing my feelings."

that's sort of a way to "take back" the i love you without making her feel bad about it. chances are she'll be like, "yeah, i feel the same."

How would a simple, "I know that I care for you deeply, but I'm not sure if it has reached the depths that I could call love. We haven't known each other for that long yet, it may blossom. I don't doubt your love for me, and I can only hope that what I'm feeling grows into love."

That's what I recommeded earlier. Thoughts?

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

How would a simple, "I know that I care for you deeply, but I'm not sure if it has reached the depths that I could call love. We haven't known each other for that long yet, it may blossom. I don't doubt your love for me, and I can only hope that what I'm feeling grows into love."

That's what I recommeded earlier. Thoughts?



it's really a question of style. the basic message is the same: you're great, but i don't know if it's love.

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:



it's really a question of style. the basic message is the same: you're great, but i don't know if it's love.

Yes, I would think it's important to put a "yet" into it. Simply because he does care about her and it may grow. She is 16 afterall, there may be a hint of infatuation, blinding "love" that is to say.

quote:Originally posted by Euda:

Yes, I would think it's important to put a "yet" into it. Simply because he does care about her and it may grow. She is 16 afterall, there may be a hint of infatuation, blinding "love" that is to say.



i dunno, i was pretty cold and detached at 16. the increasing levels of estrogen have warmed me up a bit, though. =)

quote:Originally posted by lauren7249:

i dunno, i was pretty cold and detached at 16. the increasing levels of estrogen have warmed me up a bit, though. =)

I refuse to paint a picture my attitude at 16.

[This message has been edited by Euda (edited 10-02-2006).]

quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:

Because, Lotek, he wants to be the first man to steer his vessel into port!

lol xiao you crack me up in a good way =)

Your relationship sounds like it's going to fall apart. Fuck her before that happens. Hurry!

You sound like my girlfriend.

You dont want to hurt her, so love her. My girlfriend puts me through plenty of shit with oscillating moods, but I love her all the same and its going well at the moment, thanks to me sticking to it. I havent hurt her and she doesnt know why I love her but she loves me back, so it all works. Just go with the flow, your alright.

Stop treating the situation as some sort of hugh daunting task. Lose yourself in the moment and enjoy yourself, your lady will appreciate it :P.

You don't want to come out with any sexual hangups

I lost my virginity when I was 6

OP is such a bitch it's not even funny. She must think she's got it made that you eat her out/finger her to orgasm for 3 hours and then don't want anything in return.

What can I say, I like to please her.

She does return the favour so and so though, first by letting me fuck her, but she does give me head as well. So yeah I ain't complaining.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

Are you serious!?

I thought that would be something everyone remembers quite vividly for the rest of their lives.

I remember when I lost my virginity like it was yesterday...

Not being able to keep it hard... Having to beg her back into bed to continue while I jacked off under the covers... The girl who introduced us on my computer in the same room... When she laughed at me after I asked; "Where does it all go?" after I came inside her...

Oh, and the awkward 3 hours beforehand since I had no idea what to do.

Maybe it's something I should try to forget...

HAHAHAH

while I jacked off under the covers...

while I jacked off under the covers...

while I jacked off under the covers...

while I jacked off under the covers...

gave me a good laugh

<3 to you