I see it all the time, good guys doing totally insane things for the slim chance that it'll get a woman's affection

Come on guys, look at yourselves and think for a minute.

The power balence between men and women has shifted. We no longer live in a society where our position of males is advantagous.

Forget women for a while.

Learn what makes you happy, learn what makes you a man.

Medicate yourself with masturbation and realise that women are not necessary.

Take the power back.

Be unavailable, be uncompromising, grow some freaking balls.

Women are just human, full of flaws. They won't all sit down and think about how to not hurt you, how to make you feel fine, they're not godesses, they're out for their own, the best partner.

They're just people like you and I. So treat them like people.

Learn to not give a fuck about what women think if it makes you unhappy.

Black eyed peas are the perfect example "you can look but you can't touch". Hey, fuck that!

Don't even look, then see how long they'll keep playing that game.

Women are not the center of the universe.

Some may call you a chauvinist, but who the fuck cares? They're still chained to the moistened pit from which they came. At least you can think for yourself.

The irony is, the more you follow this, the more attractive you are to women- and the more you just won't care about women.

Short version:

Be a man, grow some balls, say 'cunt', get a job, smoke some dope, buy some crap, spend time with your friends.

Women are not the basis of enjoying life or the standard of success, they're something extra.

You have to be independent.

It's true. Even though i've seen this same story in 10 thousend different versions, some guys will never listen.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

Don't even look, then see how long they'll keep playing that game.

Most important part of the whole post.

It's SO true! Very recently had a date. It was going shittily. Things weren't working in my favour. Girl was totally cold towards me. No physical contact etc. So I just kind of "switched off", just started looking around, bored and uncaring. Totally stopped giving a fuck. From that point on she worked harder and harder to get my attention. Which ended with her grabbing me by the front of my jumper, and pulling my mouth into hers.

It just clicked, straigt away.

Girls want attention.

Don't give it to them, and they'll try to earn it.

This doesn't apply to all girls, you'll either know the type of girl I'm talking about or not. But yeah, it works brilliantly.

Last tip, don't get carried away with it. There's a line. As with all things, finding the right balance is the hardest part.

Haven't gotten laid since I was 15. ^_^

I stand by my lacking of a gf over the last 3 or so years.

I do indeed, medicate myself with masturbation.

I salute the TS

Tissue?

There should be a lot of give 'n take...

Before it comes to givin' snake...

quote:Originally posted by moonmeister:

There should be a lot of give 'n take...

Before it comes to givin' snake...

Oh... I bet the ladies' hearts throb for you with such amazing poetry.

quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:

Tissue?

*hands kate a tissue* are you ok?

quote:Originally posted by rabbitweed:

*hands kate a tissue* are you ok?

I laffed.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:



they're something extra

True. I'm not dis-regarding women or anything, but all happiness does not lie with a woman.

quote:Originally posted by BluryVision:

True. I'm not dis-regarding women or anything, but all happiness does not lie with a woman.

...Though, sometimes if a man doth 'lie with a woman'? He might be made pretty full of happiness?

i agree to an extent. Too many males today are obsessing over how to impress women, and are ultimately suffering for it. But still, women are also experiencing the same thing as men are

I read that and simply see a frustrated guy that wants power over women.

There are small kernels of wisdom in that rant, but it's peppered with thoughtless ramblings.

[This message has been edited by Euda (edited 09-16-2006).]

this advice is always been said in so many variations sometimes works sometimes doesnt but youd have a pretty empty life without women

words of a frustrated male who feels controlled, yes.

but words to live by.

words i already live by.

and i stand by it. the most interested a girl has ever been in me, was when i haven't cared what she thought of me.

It's a spiteful thing, if you do this to a girl on purpose. ANd i mean, really, anything like this that a girl does to a boy now, is reactionatory. because men have been fucking with women for longer.

but still.

what we need is a balance.

we need to come to some kind of truce here, if we're ever going to have a real connection.

but right now.

fuck yes.

women control you, because they've convinced you that they don't want sex as badly as you do.

in reality, you can get off easier than they can.

really. YOU are the one who doesn't need it as often. YOU are the one who has the power, because you can orgasm whenever the fuck you want to.

so.

i dunno.

while i don't think its an awesome idea to continue this sex power struggle.. really.

if one were so inclined..

yeah.

I don’t have a lack of faith in love, but it’s not miraculous, you have to have respect for people before you can love them.

Just look around, a lot of men don’t have respect for themselves, let alone control the respect of others. How are they supposed to find a partner?

It’s not a how-to, it’s a wakeup call.

Men are brought up to be sluts. We don’t have to be.

And if suggesting to men that women don’t have to be the centre of our lives makes me bitter, you must be right.

1. Any girl that pounces on you after you stop paying attention to her is INSECURE. That's it. But lucky for the retards, there are a LOT of insecure girls.

2. OP, why don't YOU grow some balls? I'm sure you're working on it. You were probably one of those guys you just ranted about, and now you've grown up. Congratulations. Don't be a dick about it though.

3. Boys suck.

quote:Originally posted by Jackketchs Muse:

A 'wake up call' to what though.



To basing your own value as a human being on how successful you are with women!

How many miserable men have you seen posting on Totse with regards to women?

-Not because of heartbreak, but because of their lonliness or unsuccessfulness.

I love ya, Muse. But I think it'd take a few miles in a young man's shoes to really get your head around this one.

All I'm saying is be happy, don't let someone else bring you down. Have the power within yourself.

If you've got yourself sorted out, then you can sort out others.

quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

You were probably one of those guys you just ranted about, and now you've grown up. Congratulations. Don't be a dick about it though.



Yes, I was. Then I learned to like myself for me! From then on, life's been darn peachy.

Also, how am I being a dick about it?/Why are people taking offense?

quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

1. Any girl that pounces on you after you stop paying attention to her is INSECURE. That's it. But lucky for the retards, there are a LOT of insecure girls.

2. OP, why don't YOU grow some balls? I'm sure you're working on it. You were probably one of those guys you just ranted about, and now you've grown up. Congratulations. Don't be a dick about it though.

3. Boys suck.



and you believe women are any better? stop now you gullible bitch. all women want is to be loved and to be noticed, and i can bet that if that hot guy in your preschool class stopped paying attention to you, youd jump on his dick as well.

quote:Originally posted by pwntbypancakes:



and you believe women are any better? stop now you gullible bitch. all women want is to be loved and to be noticed, and i can bet that if that hot guy in your preschool class stopped paying attention to you, youd jump on his dick as well.

No dude, women are idiots. I won't say I don't enjoy attention sometimes too, but if some guy is paying attention to me then suddenly stops, I'm not going to cry about it and turn all "omg why doesn't he want meeeeeeeee?" because that's fucking retarded. The only reason he'd stop is because he'd realize that I'm not going to fuck him, and if that's the case I don't want anything to do with him anyway.

quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

No dude, women are idiots. I won't say I don't enjoy attention sometimes too, but if some guy is paying attention to me then suddenly stops, I'm not going to cry about it and turn all "omg why doesn't he want meeeeeeeee?" because that's fucking retarded. The only reason he'd stop is because he'd realize that I'm not going to fuck him, and if that's the case I don't want anything to do with him anyway.

What's the difference between the cold shoulder guy I described and the mysterious bloke you're introduced to at a party?

A lot of women love 'mysterious' guys, and I'd be willing to say it's because they don't put all of their cards on the table.

They play 'hard to get'. It's sexy, damnit!

Anyway kids, I'm off to bed. I didn't mean to offend anyone, swear!

quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

3. Boys suck.

Boys do suck. Which is why most put away their childish things and step up to manhood.

And become men, even.

And then work on cars, fart, drink beer, watch sports all weekend, etc...

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:



Black eyed peas are the perfect example "you can look but you can't touch". Hey, fuck that!

Don't even look, then see how long they'll keep playing that game.

i just had the WEIRDEST moment ever



before i entered the thread i put on my humps. JUST as i was reading that the chick said the line.

I kinda disagree, I'm usually how you talk in your post, don't go out of my way to do anything stupid, hang with friends, pretty much do what I want, but to meet new people, girls or guys you have to make some kind of effort. Like saying hi or asking if they have email or somethin, you can't just sit back and refuse to even so much as look at females and expect to meet any.

I don't know about you but I feel quite a bit more comfortable approaching someone who I can at least make eye contact with and exchange a smile.

I don't see why you can't even look at the girls. That seems kinda stupid to me. It's all in how you look, and when.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

They're still chained to the moistened pit from which they came.

Nice, I like that. Good writing. Good subject matter too, I think it's important to write about life experiences and lessons as you go through them, for yourself and for others.

Nice post OP!

Now here's a question for you:

Do all of these 'principles' still apply when you are already dating a woman?

Do we still ignore them, be selfish, etc? - which is going against the concept of a 'romantic relationship'

well?

quote:Originally posted by Demoiselle:

1. Any girl that pounces on you after you stop paying attention to her is INSECURE. That's it. But lucky for the retards, there are a LOT of insecure girls.



YES, YES! Guys pull this shit on me ALL the time. It never works though, because I'm clever, and I know what they're up to

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

It never works though, because I'm clever, and I know what they're up to



But they still tend to get in your pants..

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

YES, YES! Guys pull this shit on me ALL the time. It never works though, because I'm clever, and I know what they're up to



You're an exception. You think they stop paying attention to get into your pants, but they actually stop paying attention because they came to their senses and realised you're worth SHIT.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:



Do all of these 'principles' still apply when you are already dating a woman?

Do we still ignore them, be selfish, etc? - which is going against the concept of a 'romantic relationship'



Some people are taking what I said out of context. This is the problem.

In regards to avalability; I meant "do not be afraid to be unavalible."

For a romantic example, spend more time with your friends for a week, then take her on a wirlwind candlelit dinner.

Do you think your partner would be more or less excited about it than if you'd been obeying her beck and call?

The post wasn't about finding women, it was about finding yourself by realising you can be happy single (so when you return to the dating scene, you've more confidence [just the same as imagining an audience with their pants down to ease fear]), although, if you asked me one things I knew for sure about human nature it's;

"The grass is always greener on the other side."

quote:Originally posted by StillArmedStillAngry:

I don't see why you can't even look at the girls.

It wasn't really meant to be a pick up guide. It was just to demonstrate men shouldn't feel sexually insuperior to women.

Although, come to think of it; if you can talk to a sexy woman as a person rather than a sexual object, you'll get along better, yes?

quote:Originally posted by Rattrap51:



I don't know about you but I feel quite a bit more comfortable approaching someone who I can at least make eye contact with and exchange a smile.

Like I said, it's not a literal guide for picking up women.

-But, how often have you heard women talking about that 'mysterious' man?

Do you think he calls any potential partner his boogie woogie princess and showers her with gifts, does he run to her at all hours of the day or night?

quote:Originally posted by Nagasaki911:

i just had the WEIRDEST moment ever



before i entered the thread i put on my humps. JUST as i was reading that the chick said the line.



*twilight zone music*

quote:Originally posted by Jackketchs Muse:



But...doesn't this apply to both gender's really?

You are right though, it's just as difficult for women to understand a man's issues as it is for a man to understand a woman's issues.

Yes, I suppose it does.

Though I would argue not to the same extent! Although that could merely be that my male base of friends is so much larger than the female.

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

You're an exception. You think they stop paying attention to get into your pants, but they actually stop paying attention because they came to their senses and realised you're worth SHIT.

You're a bitter little twat, aren't ya? Maybe it's because you're a lonely loser who has to play games to get women to pay you any attention.

quote:Originally posted by kAtE-:

Tissue?



Bitch?

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

You're a bitter little twat, aren't ya? Maybe it's because you're a lonely loser who has to play games to get women to pay you any attention.

Thanks for proving his point, dumbass.

Here's some advice: guys hate fat/ugly chicks with self-respect, let it go.

Who are you calling fat/ugly? You're both repulsive. Losers for life.

quote:Originally posted by rabbitweed:

*hands kate a tissue* are you ok?

Weren't you listening? You're supposed to ignore them. You're hopeless

quote:Originally posted by arquin:

and realised you're worth SHIT.

Sometimes its rather obvious why certain people dont have girlfriends.

My take on this idiot train:

I dont like idiots. I dont like idiots of either gender. The aforementioned "advice" seems to be an attractant to shallow, insecure, and most definitely lacking in the brain department females.

I dont like that, so I dont follow.

I suppose the old addage of "fat chicks needing love, too" can be well adapted to include the scope of pathetic creatures such as these.

You shoot for what you aim for, I suppose....

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

The aforementioned "advice" seems to be an attractant to shallow, insecure, and most definitely lacking in the brain department females.



so... 99% of them?

quote:Originally posted by Garfunkel:

so... 99% of them?

I wont put a number one it, but lets just keep it as "alot of them".

^^ LoL.

to any women out there who i've offended, i'm sorry...



SORRY YOU'RE SUCH JERKS!

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

My take on this idiot train:

I dont like idiots. I dont like idiots of either gender. The aforementioned "advice" seems to be an attractant to shallow, insecure, and most definitely lacking in the brain department females.



It's not about picking up women.

It's about learning to validify your own self worth independant of your relationships with women.

Having that confidence in yourself and not being emotionally clingy are generally considered attractive traits, right?

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

It's not about picking up women.

It's about learning to validify your own self worth independant of your relationships with women.

Having that confidence in yourself and not being emotionally clingy are generally considered attractive traits, right?

Confidence, yes. But ultimately being emotionall clingy is what happens.

You are hardly worth anything if you must prove it by wronging others. So I dont see how it validifies any self worth, as opposed to validifying its nonexistence...

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:



You are hardly worth anything if you must prove it by wronging others. So I dont see how it validifies any self worth, as opposed to validifying its nonexistence...

Whaat? Wronging others?

If I'm as evil as this thread makes me out to be I'm doing the world a service.

I don't know about you but I enjoy being chased after sometimes.

But hey, if you've got everything worked out, if you've got the perfect attitude to everything, great! But don't get shitty, not everyone is the same.

pg. 3. j00 all got pwned.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

Whaat? Wronging others?

If I'm as evil as this thread makes me out to be I'm doing the world a service.

I don't know about you but I enjoy being chased after sometimes.

But hey, if you've got everything worked out, if you've got the perfect attitude to everything, great! But don't get shitty, not everyone is the same.

Good for you. Thats why I had the spiel about shallow women preferring this treatment.

You going and recommending this merely solidifies my stance.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

It's not about picking up women.

It's about learning to validify your own self worth independant of your relationships with women.

Having that confidence in yourself and not being emotionally clingy are generally considered attractive traits, right?

QFT! You've got it figuered out.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

It's not about picking up women.

It's about learning to validify your own self worth independant of your relationships with women.

Having that confidence in yourself and not being emotionally clingy are generally considered attractive traits, right?

QFT! You've got it figured out.

quote:Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000:

Sometimes its rather obvious why certain people dont have girlfriends.

Meh, girlfriends are over rated. Fuck buddies are where it's at.

Couldn't agree with you more OP.

Everything you say is true. Everyone who says you are a sexually frustrated male is probably one themselves who can't grasp the fact that the knight in shining armor bullshit will never work.

quote:Originally posted by snowman:

Couldn't agree with you more OP.



Domo arigato.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

Domo arigato.

...Mr. Snowbotto.

dude

thank you so much

just you saying that made me feel so much better. i can now cope with getting over my fucking ex that cheated on me while i was abandoned in some mental hospital