Ok, I know what i'm talking about.

I'll answer serious questions.

Here are my guidelines.

1. Give me a scenario.

2. I will be brutally honest.

3. If you cannot provide a scenario, at least provide a base for me to give you advice on.

This thread is completely fruitless. This whole forum is devoted to such things as advice relating to girls. If someone really wants advice, they'll make the thread (The scenario/base) and others will give their brutal honest opinions. This will be a waste of time, sorry to say.

Stop whoring it out too, it's not as great as you think it is.

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I know more.

I hope you have better advice than the last guy that made a thread like this. I think some people are just too cockey.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

This thread is completely fruitless. This whole forum is devoted to such things as advice relating to girls. If someone really wants advice, they'll make the thread (The scenario/base) and others will give their brutall honest opinions. This will be a waste of time, srry to say.

Stop whoring it out too, it's not as great as you think it is.

Yes but a general overall help thread would be nice. As opposed to multiple threads basically asking the same question both in SG and in S&A. I'm trying to help.

You think you are the master of the ladies and you are a pimp and every chick wants you. Well thats good for you that you think that because it probably helps. Ok I need help approaching chicks in class. NOW GIVE ME GREAT ADVICE.

My mom keeps giving me these seemingly seductive glances.

How do I get her to let me penetrate her butthole?

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Yes but a general overall help thread would be nice. As opposed to multiple threads basically asking the same question both in SG and in S&A. I'm trying to help.

You're merely adding to the clutter. Overall help thread? Unless you're giving out some set advice -which would constitue as a guide - it's just trying to consolidate all the individual threads that are made on this vauge topic into one.

It's pointless.

Uh.. What's the difference, between teasing.. and not teasing.

Answer that one, oh great Zen master.

quote:Originally posted by ProtextBlue292:

You think you are the master of the ladies and you are a pimp and every chick wants you. Well thats good for you that you think that because it probably helps. Ok I need help approaching chicks in class. NOW GIVE ME GREAT ADVICE.

Ok, how do you know her, how long have you known her for, what type of group does she hang out with, and what types of conversations have you two engaged in in the past.

This thread has falied in the first 3 minutes. Please delete it.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

You're merely adding to the clutter. Overall help thread? Unless you're giving out some set advice -which would constitue as a guide - it's just trying to consolidate all the individual threads that are made on this vauge topic into one.

It's pointless.

I realize where you're coming from on the vague topic/fruitless thing.

It won't neccesarily constitute into more clutter, because I will be giving out serious advice.

I wont make a guide, because It would instead, be mulitple guides. I'd rather give them advice as it comes, so everyone can make their own personal guide. Saying this is fruitless is like saying Night ops is fruitless.

I can't give everyone on their small bit of subject, what i'm planning on doing is working with everyone slowly but surely and optimizing them for beter female potential.

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quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Ok, how do you know her, how long have you known her for, what type of group does she hang out with, and what types of conversations have you two engaged in in the past.

You're an idiot.

The simple fact that this guy has asked this questions tells us that he does not have a good rep at school and he has absolutely no hope in going after this girl.

Unless this guy undergoes some radical change - and people notice him - in a positive sense, this guy will never get with that girl.

With guys like him, they usually have to learn everything (about girls) the hard way. Us telling him what to do will not get him the girl. He has to learn everything and master the art through experience.

That being said, we can show him the path, but he has to walk it - and its not a short path either.

Sailor-Boy

[This message has been edited by Sailor-Boy (edited 09-13-2006).]

I asked a question. I'm obviously stupid because I don't know when I'm being teased, and when a girl is seriously coming on to me.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Ok, how do you know her, how long have you known her for, what type of group does she hang out with, and what types of conversations have you two engaged in in the past.

We just got new seats and theres this chick that I have never talked to before in my life that I wanna try out. I dont know much about her but how should I go about this.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

You're an idiot.

The simple fact that this guy has asked this questions tells us that he does not have a good rep at school and he has absolutely no hope in going after this girl.

Unless this guy undergoes some radical change - and people notice him - in a positive sense, this guy will never get with that girl.

With guys like him, they usually have to learn everything (about girls) the hard way. Us telling him what to do will not get him the girl. He has to learn everything and master the art through experience.

That being said, we can so him the path, but he has to walk it - and its not a short path either.



No i'm not an idiot.

That's my plan is to show everyone the path.

Night op guides are not fruitless because they deals with something that has a set methodology for the most part. Like mathematics. Relationships do not adhere to specific rules - they're all different. Multiple guides? Brilliant! .

Help me out here then, how do I get a girl to like me? .

quote:Originally posted by Chaotix:

I asked a question. I'm obviously stupid because I don't know when I'm being teased, and when a girl is seriously coming on to me.

The best test for those, is to ask them for their phone number, or to ask them on a date.

Simple as that. If they refuse, or try to lead you on some more, then they are being nothing but teases.

I've got their phone number. We're like friends.. I didn't really know her. Then we were all at a party.. And, she's known for being sort of a tease, so she was being a tease.. I don't know.. She grabs my ass a lot?

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

Night op guides are not fruitless because they deals with something that has a set methodology for the most part. Like mathematics. Relationships do not adhere to specific rules - they're all different. Multiple guides? Brilliant! .

Help me out here then, how do I get a girl to like me? .

Actually, female instincts do adhere to specific rules.

Yeah I know I'm dumb for asking here but I thought what the hell, I'll give it a try. Its not like I am counting on this advice to help me that much. I know I'm gonna do it myself anyway just I wanna hear what someone says.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

The best test for those, is to ask them for their phone number, or to ask them on a date.

Simple as that. If they refuse, or try to lead you on some more, then they are being nothing but teases.

Ummm wtf... how old are you?

Ask them on a date?

Ask for their phone number?

Where did you get this material from? A movie?

quote:Originally posted by ProtextBlue292:

Yeah I know I'm dumb for asking here but I thought what the hell, I'll give it a try. Its not like I am counting on this advice to help me that much. I know I'm gonna do it myself anyway just I wanna hear what someone says.

No you're not.

Gives me some more info here.

Such as, what type of girl is she, and what group do you hang out with. (Be brutally honest, that's key.)

How long have you been in class for etc.

Alright, I'll be the first person to not be a little bitch, and I'll actually ask.

Okay so basically I'm stuck in a no-girl zone. It started from grade 8 when I just started hanging out with a group of friends, and we kinda isolated ourselves by not hanging out with anyone else. This lasted until grade 10 or so. I then realized that I didn't talk to any girls, ever, and hadn't even kissed a girl by 17 (age I am now).

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm told often by friends of friends of this particular girl or that girl or w/e that I'm attractive. I'm also not completely awkward when talkign to girls; I can hold a conversation by asking lots of questions and not letting there be that killing silence. The thing is, girls never ask me anything about myself. When I go to parties, I'm confident and I strike up conversations with people, but they just sorta walk away. It's like I have nothing to offer or something.

I try to talk to girls and put myself out there, but it never leads anywhere. Girls would rather hang out with the really popular funny guys or really cool guys that have had girlfriends before, and don't even really consider me at all, despite them thinking I'm good looking. The group of friends I have doesn't really hang out with girls, so I don't really get any exposure to them in group settings, and I have no idea what to do. I eventually get to the point where I just stop trying and just say "fuck 'em" and stop talking to them. No girl has ever made the effort to hang out with me or initiate a conversation. Meh

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Actually, female instincts do adhere to specific rules.

Well, back up your statement with some examples and a source.

quote:Originally posted by Chaotix:

I've got their phone number. We're like friends.. I didn't really know her. Then we were all at a party.. And, she's known for being sort of a tease, so she was being a tease.. I don't know.. She grabs my ass a lot?

Counter-tease and play hard-to-get, flirt with her friends.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

Ummm wtf... how old are you?

Ask them on a date?

Ask for their phone number?

Where did you get this material from? A movie?

No, the best way to figure out wether or not the girl is seriously interested is to up the ante. How do you up the ante past flirting? A date, or the phone number which would lead to further personal contact OUTSIDE of the area you usually see her.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

Well, back up your statement with some examples and a source.

That's the reason i made this thread.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

No, the best way to figure out wether or not the girl is seriously interested is to up the ante. How do you up the ante past flirting? A date, or the phone number which would lead to further personal contact OUTSIDE of the area you usually see her.

hahahaha, dont make me laugh dude.

That's not how girls think. You're so logical... makes me laugh. And people are supposed to get advice from you??

If you asked for her number/date whatever, she will fuck you over. She will use that to her advantage. I cant express how fucking wrong you are..

Oh hell, I'm on the right path already.

quote:Originally posted by Chaotix:

I've got their phone number. We're like friends.. I didn't really know her. Then we were all at a party.. And, she's known for being sort of a tease, so she was being a tease.. I don't know.. She grabs my ass a lot?

Pull her aside, and tell her that you guys should hang out together 1 on 1 and go somewhere together.

On that date, go for a kiss.

Girls that are known to be teases are usually not worth the effort, but the quickest way to find ANYTHING out of this sort is to just up the ante.

I reiterate...

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

My mom keeps giving me these seemingly seductive glances.

How do I get her to let me penetrate her butthole?

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

That's the reason i made this thread.

That is a complete cop-put. I'm not wasting anymore time with this.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

No, the best way to figure out wether or not the girl is seriously interested is to up the ante. How do you up the ante past flirting? A date, or the phone number which would lead to further personal contact OUTSIDE of the area you usually see her.

hahahaha, dont make me laugh dude.

That's not how girls think. You're so logical... makes me laugh. And people are supposed to get advice from you??

If you asked for her number/date whatever, she will fuck you over. She will use that to her advantage. I cant express how fucking wrong you are..

Actually i've been doing this for so long, i've realized logical, more effecient ways to go about things.

Unlike you who has read a lot, and hasn't had 5-6 years of field experience under his belt. Get off my fucking nuts.

quote:Originally posted by Toothlessjoe:

That is a complete cop-put. I'm not wasting anymore time with this.

Great, nobody wants you here.

EDIT: a1b2c3d4c5d6e, you gettin' to my post or what?

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quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Pull her aside, and tell her that you guys should hang out together 1 on 1 and go somewhere together.

On that date, go for a kiss.

Girls that are known to be teases are usually not worth the effort, but the quickest way to find ANYTHING out of this sort is to just up the ante.

Seriously man.... that's the worst way to do it....

You have no experience whatsoever...

Guys... please don't follow his advice... PLEASE.

Okay, I'm a girl and I fancy this guy.

What should I say?

How can I get him to like me??

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Actually i've been doing this for so long, i've realized logical, more effecient ways to go about things.

Unlike you who has read a lot, and hasn't had 5-6 years of field experience under his belt. Get off my fucking nuts.

hAHAHA 6 years of field experience??

HAHAHAHAHA

Ok, lets be serious here for a sec..

Your strategy is to read the target by upping the ante and using obvious indicators to categorize the target's thinking. Then take everything movie-style from there.

Chicks don't work like that.. Unless you are uberconfident (and most people who ask for advice here aren't) This will not work.

My strategy is - instead of trying to read the target at all, is to manipulate the target to your liking. You can control the target easily after this.

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

Okay, I'm a girl and I fancy this guy.

What should I say?

How can I get him to like me??

-Look pretty

-Talk to him and give him verbal hints

-Wait

quote:Originally posted by I-RapeTards:

Alright, I'll be the first person to not be a little bitch, and I'll actually ask.

Okay so basically I'm stuck in a no-girl zone. It started from grade 8 when I just started hanging out with a group of friends, and we kinda isolated ourselves by not hanging out with anyone else. This lasted until grade 10 or so. I then realized that I didn't talk to any girls, ever, and hadn't even kissed a girl by 17 (age I am now).

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm told often by friends of friends of this particular girl or that girl or w/e that I'm attractive. I'm also not completely awkward when talkign to girls; I can hold a conversation by asking lots of questions and not letting there be that killing silence. The thing is, girls never ask me anything about myself. When I go to parties, I'm confident and I strike up conversations with people, but they just sorta walk away. It's like I have nothing to offer or something.

I try to talk to girls and put myself out there, but it never leads anywhere. Girls would rather hang out with the really popular funny guys or really cool guys that have had girlfriends before, and don't even really consider me at all, despite them thinking I'm good looking. The group of friends I have doesn't really hang out with girls, so I don't really get any exposure to them in group settings, and I have no idea what to do. I eventually get to the point where I just stop trying and just say "fuck 'em" and stop talking to them. No girl has ever made the effort to hang out with me or initiate a conversation. Meh

Well, the thing about the popular guys is that in their minds those guys have more net worth. Why? Because everyone knows them, and the fact that everyone knows them makes them a wanted commodity.

Mystery can be your friend in this situation.

Instead of asking general questions, ask questions that get you places, try to bust their balls in a while.

So... be utterly different not in your style, but in your conversating. Offer different types of conversation to give to the girls, be like no other guy.

Ways you can go about this is to bust their balls.

Put them on the persona that you are the one that is too good for them. If you are the loner at the party, i'm sorry, there is nothing you can really do about it. BUT you can find better higher quality girls in a sense.

Emphasize a little more and i'll give you some conversating tips.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

hAHAHA 6 years of field experience??

HAHAHAHAHA

Ok, lets be serious here for a sec..

Your strategy is to read the target by upping the ante and using obvious indicators to categorize the target's thinking. Then take everything movie-style from there.

Chicks don't work like that.. Unless you are uberconfident (and most people who ask for advice here aren't) This will not work.

My strategy is - instead of trying to read the target at all, is to manipulate the target to your liking. You can control the target easily after this.

You can't manipulate without first reading you fucking idiot.

You're a keyboard jockey PUA.

You've read, and you can say but you can't do.

You've had limited success.

I've been through a 2 year relationship. Countless, times where i'd go to public areas and approach almost EVERY girl there.

I've done this for a while buddy, again.. get off my nuts.

What do you mean bust their balls?

Anyway, it's not like I'm a loner at parties. I've got friends, it's just when meeting a girl I don't know, it feels like their not interested at all in what I have to say, even if what I'm saying is asking them their name, where they go to school or whatever. Basically groundwork shit when meeting people.

I have no idea how to act like I'm the one girls are lucky to be around without sounding like an arrogant prick, either.

We've already kissed.. We weren't dating.. lol.. So, I'm lost.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

No you're not.

Gives me some more info here.

Such as, what type of girl is she, and what group do you hang out with. (Be brutally honest, that's key.)

How long have you been in class for etc.

I'm not a nerd or anything. I hang out with older kids usually. I can't classify who I hang out with into a stereotypical social group, but let me say this: I'm not some pimply faced computer geek who worships video games and warcraft. I'm not popular at all though.

Like I said, I don't know much about this chick. But she doesn't really look like a preppy bitch, she isn't really like super hot or anything, but shes not bad.

I've only been in this class 2 weeks but now I sit like right by her. But I don't really have many opportunities to talk in class because its a math class and most of the time the teacher is talking and I sit near the front. Maybe I could try before class and after the teacher quits talking and we are supposed to sit there and do the math assignment.

Now give me some fucking advice dammit.

quote:Originally posted by Chaotix:

We've already kissed.. We weren't dating.. lol.. So, I'm lost.

Well up the ante a little more, get her in a room alone.

Other ways to tell are.

If she treats you differently than other guys, watch and see if she flirts with other guys the same. If she treats you differently, then chances are she is genuinely interested in you.

Put her in an area where she is dissasciated from the crowd she is in.

Meaning she doesn't know a lot of people there.

Make sure this place has an alone room.

Proceed with touching, small touches on the arm, and wait for her responses back.

Make it seem COMPLETELY natural, and try this too. Grab her hair by the back of her neck, and squeeze just a little. "Accidentally" Brush up against her tits, etc.

When you guys are touching each other like crazy, dissappear into the room.

When she asks what your'e doing in there, say you feel like relaxing for a bit.

She will be forced into the room lol because she is dissasosciated.

Talk with her a little, STOP the touching for now. Fondle her hair a little, look into her eyes, then look at her mouth, and back at her eyes. If she doesn't move go in for the kiss and proceed with sexual intercourse.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

You can't manipulate without first reading you fucking idiot.

You're a keyboard jockey PUA.

You've read, and you can say but you can't do.

You've had limited success.

I've been through a 2 year relationship. Countless, times where i'd go to public areas and approach almost EVERY girl there.

I've done this for a while buddy, again.. get off my nuts.

hahahaha

don't fucking question me fucker.

I know one must read before taking action..

But asking them on a date/phone number would have to be the worst way to provoke the target for indicators if you were a newb... These kids have no experience dude..

Guys like us who know how to use body language / voice tone etc. to convey confidence can skillfully use almost ANY technique to pick up.. These guys don't have a clue about showing confidence/alphaness etc..

If these shy/unconfident/inexperienced guys go up to a girl and ask for her number.. can you imagine what the reaction would be like?

Think about who you are dishing this advice out to..

quote:Originally posted by I-RapeTards:

What do you mean bust their balls?

Anyway, it's not like I'm a loner at parties. I've got friends, it's just when meeting a girl I don't know, it feels like their not interested at all in what I have to say, even if what I'm saying is asking them their name, where they go to school or whatever. Basically groundwork shit when meeting people.

I have no idea how to act like I'm the one girls are lucky to be around without sounding like an arrogant prick, either.

I'm getting to you, i just need to spend extra time on the reponses back. Be patient and thanks for having faith .

Bitch its my turn. I want advice before I go to bed.

quote:Originally posted by I-RapeTards:

What do you mean bust their balls?

Anyway, it's not like I'm a loner at parties. I've got friends, it's just when meeting a girl I don't know, it feels like their not interested at all in what I have to say, even if what I'm saying is asking them their name, where they go to school or whatever. Basically groundwork shit when meeting people.

I have no idea how to act like I'm the one girls are lucky to be around without sounding like an arrogant prick, either.

You are being too "nice guy".

Act relaxed/comfortable and don't look like you are dedicating yourself to the girl when talking.. You have to show that you are confident and show that you think about urself before the girl. Simply: don't move your body into the conversation - this shows that you are thinking of the girl before yourself. Instead, let the girl lean in towards you.



E:--------------------------------------

By "busting their balls"

He means you have to challege the alpha males in the social group. Treat them like they are lower than you. Make jokes of them. etc. etc.



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quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

hahahaha

don't fucking question me fucker.

I know one must read before taking action..

But asking them on a date/phone number would have to be the worst way to provoke the target for indicators if you were a newb... These kids have no experience dude..

Guys like us who know how to use body language / voice tone etc. to convey confidence can skillfully use almost ANY technique to pick up.. These guys don't have a clue about showing confidence/alphaness etc..

If these shy/unconfident/inexperienced guys go up to a girl and ask for her number.. can you imagine what the reaction would be like?

Think about who you are dishing this advice out to..



I can tell that you know lightly on the subject you speak of.

Here is the thing.

There are people who know SHITLOADS of techniques.

Then there are people who have actually tried all these techniques for years.

I will get to the alphaness, etc. I need to know the disposition that is the reason i'm not writing a guide.

I know more than you do on this subject through MASSIVE field experience.

I can tell that you've read a lot, but you really don't exactly what you're talking about or have any original things that youv'e come up with yourself, or ways yourself that you have used by a process of elimination. A process of elimination can only be acheived through time. That is why it is a long road. And i've been on it longer than you have.

I can just tell by your responses to the guys that you've only read.

Seriously, you're cluttering my thread. I can give better advice, If anything you can learn from me, but you don't want too becauase your'e a stubborn donkey.

Shut the fuck up.

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quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

You are being too "nice guy".

Act relaxed/comfortable and don't look like you are dedicating yourself to the girl when talking.. You have to show that you are confident and show that you think about urself before the girl. Simply: don't move your body into the conversation - this shows that you are thinking of the girl before yourself. Instead, let the girl lean in towards you.



E:

See??

This shit looks like it's fucking copy pasted.

what you're saying is very broad and you're giving bad advice.

WHEN YOU CHALLENGE THE OTHER ALPHA MALES YOU ONLY SHOW INSECURITY, YOU FUCKING DUMBASS, YOU DON'T KNOW, OK? I'VE DONE THIS LONGER KEEP FUCKING READ, AND KEEP FUCKING GETTING FIELD/LIFE EXPERIENCE AND YOU WILL REALIZE WHAT THE FUCK YOU SPEAK OF.

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY NUTS.

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quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:



Grab her hair by the back of her neck, and squeeze just a little. "Accidentally" Brush up against her tits, etc.



Is this a guide to pissing off women?

If a guy did this to me, out of the blue, I would punch his lights out!

Hey a1b2c3d4c5d6e, I was like the first one to ask. FUCKING ANSWER ME ALREADY IM GOING TO BED SOON.

quote:Originally posted by ProtextBlue292:

Hey a1b2c3d4c5d6e, I was like the first one to ask. FUCKING ANSWER ME ALREADY IM GOING TO BED SOON.

LOL.

Ok, i'm getting to it now.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:



I can tell that you know lightly on the subject you speak of.

Here is the thing.

There are people who know SHITLOADS of techniques.

Then there are people who have actually tried all these techniques for years.

I will get to the alphaness, etc. I need to know the disposition that is the reason i'm not writing a guide.

I know more than you do on this subject through MASSIVE field experience.

I can tell that you've read a lot, but you really don't exactly what you're talking about or have any original things that youv'e come up with yourself, or ways yourself that you have used by a process of elimination. A process of elimination can only be acheived through time. That is why it is a long road. And i've been on it longer than you have.

I can just tell by your responses to the guys that you've only read.

Seriously, you're cluttering my thread. I can give better advice, If anything you can learn from me, but you don't want too becauase your'e a stubborn donkey.

Shut the fuck up.

Haha..

After about 6 months of fielding various techniques and whatnot I have already come to understand the social dynamics of everything.

I have eventually come to a stage where picking-up does not interest me at all. And using methods etc is too superficial for me and I have started to do everything the genuine way - Although all of the body language stuff is now permanently stuck with me since I use it too much.

Trust me - I have made girls work hard and I push limits.

I can read girls in a few milliseconds by giving out body-language type messages and reading the response etc. I just got to the point where everything in life became a game and it was too fake for me - and I'm not interested in trying to manipulate girls who are fake enough as it is - I'm more interested in getting to know genuine girls the genuine way - which is much more emotionally rewarding i may add.

So, yes - You may be better than me at 'approach' and shit but giving advance advice to guys with absolutely no experience would have to be the stupidest idea in the world. They are going to go out there and fail - And hence be discouraged to try again.

You have to start them off from step 1 dude.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Actually, female instincts do adhere to specific rules.

You lost all credibility right there...and you didn't have much to start with.

quote:Originally posted by ProtextBlue292:

I'm not a nerd or anything. I hang out with older kids usually. I can't classify who I hang out with into a stereotypical social group, but let me say this: I'm not some pimply faced computer geek who worships video games and warcraft. I'm not popular at all though.

Like I said, I don't know much about this chick. But she doesn't really look like a preppy bitch, she isn't really like super hot or anything, but shes not bad.

I've only been in this class 2 weeks but now I sit like right by her. But I don't really have many opportunities to talk in class because its a math class and most of the time the teacher is talking and I sit near the front. Maybe I could try before class and after the teacher quits talking and we are supposed to sit there and do the math assignment.

Now give me some fucking advice dammit.



You hanging out with older guys is a HUGE PLUS.

Approach her with a BIG SMILE before class.

Introduce yourself, shake her hand etc.

Have a little small talk about the teacher, the school etc. Make a witty comment. KEEP IT UNDER A MINUTE.

Things to remember during this conversation.

1. Eye contact, make sure she is the one that looks away first.

2. Smiles. DONT' MAKE IT CREEPY.

3. Stand tall, and very confident.

Look at your phone, and act like you forgot to make an important phone call. Make your leave. Return to class, dont' talk to her, when you leave class, leave abruptly.

Tell me how that went and remember her EXACT responses, her facial expressions etc.

Post back in here, and i'll tell you where you're at.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

LOL.

Ok, i'm getting to it now.

Ok thanks

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quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

You lost all credibility right there...and you didn't have much to start with.

Female instinincts, just as male instincts adhere to specific rules that are wired into us. Instincts don't lie, and don't change. I didn't lose any credibility.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:



You hanging out with older guys is a huge pluse.

Approach her with a BIG SMILE before class.

Introduce yourself, shake her hand etc.

Have a little small talk about the teacher, the school etc. Make a witty comment. KEEP IT UNDER A MINUTE.

Things to remember during this conversation.

1. Eye contact, make sure she is the one that looks away first.

2. Smiles. DONT' MAKE IT CREEPY.

3. Stand tall, and very confident.

Look at your phone, and act like you forgot to make an important phone call. Make your leave. Return to class, dont' talk to her, when you leave class, leave abruptly.

Tell me how that went and remember her EXACT responses, her facial expressions etc.

Post back in here, and i'll tell you where you're at.

See dude..

Someone who has done the ground work will be able to pull that off with no troubles - and people with experience like you or me will do that naturally on the spot.

But a guy who asks for advice on totse...

He will stutter, look down, slouch, low voice volume, etc...

You can't get the 'confidence' qualities by reading advice - one must actually trial-and-error it all first before it all looks seemless/coherent.

They need the groundwork.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:



You hanging out with older guys is a huge pluse.

Approach her with a BIG SMILE before class.

Introduce yourself, shake her hand etc.

Have a little small talk about the teacher, the school etc. Make a witty comment. KEEP IT UNDER A MINUTE.

Things to remember during this conversation.

1. Eye contact, make sure she is the one that looks away first.

2. Smiles. DONT' MAKE IT CREEPY.

3. Stand tall, and very confident.

Look at your phone, and act like you forgot to make an important phone call. Make your leave. Return to class, dont' talk to her, when you leave class, leave abruptly.

Tell me how that went and remember her EXACT responses, her facial expressions etc.

Post back in here, and i'll tell you where you're at.

See dude..

Someone who has done the ground work will be able to pull that off with no troubles - and people with experience like you or me will do that naturally on the spot.

But a guy who asks for advice on totse...

He will stutter, look down, slouch, low voice volume, etc...

You can't get the 'confidence' qualities by reading advice - one must actually trial-and-error it all first before it all looks seemless/coherent.

They need the groundwork.

You act like everyone on totse is a copmletely insecure fool.

Most guys are actually decently confident with women. Which is enough provided the quick and effective means on which i am giving them. Which require no reading.

If i were to give them groundwork, i would have to write a guide. Something i'm not doing because i believe in personal 1 on 1 coaching. Learning from mistakes etc.

quote:Originally posted by Sailor-Boy:

Haha..

After about 6 months of fielding various techniques and whatnot I have already come to understand the social dynamics of everything.

I have eventually come to a stage where picking-up does not interest me at all. And using methods etc is too superficial for me and I have started to do everything the genuine way - Although all of the body language stuff is now permanently stuck with me since I use it too much.

Trust me - I have made girls work hard and I push limits.

I can read girls in a few milliseconds by giving out body-language type messages and reading the response etc. I just got to the point where everything in life became a game and it was too fake for me - and I'm not interested in trying to manipulate girls who are fake enough as it is - I'm more interested in getting to know genuine girls the genuine way - which is much more emotionally rewarding i may add.

So, yes - You may be better than me at 'approach' and shit but giving advance advice to guys with absolutely no experience would have to be the stupidest idea in the world. They are going to go out there and fail - And hence be discouraged to try again.

You have to start them off from step 1 dude.



Evertying you speak of.

I've been doing for 6 years.

i'm not just good at "approach"

I've been through a 2 year relationship.

Ok, time to get to I-rapetards.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Female instinincts, just as male instincts adhere to specific rules that are wired into us. Instincts don't lie, and don't change. I didn't lose any credibility.

Holy shit man...you act like the primal brain is immune to change. You have gone into negative credibility.

Edit: And in case you don't know this, every last thing you have advised is bound to fail for the rookie, because they lack true confidence; they are bound to make mistakes when faking a persona, thus leaving themselves open to some REALLY viscious manipulation. Women don't take kindly to being fucked around with.

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quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Holy shit man...you act like the primal brain is immune to change. You have gone into negative credibility.

He thinks all women are chimpanzees!

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

He thinks all women are chimpanzees!

They are. Fuckable chimpanzees at least though, for the most part.

quote:Originally posted by gadzooks:

They are. Fuckable chimpanzees at least though, for the most part.

Duh, human have evolved beyond the primal instinct stage!

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

He thinks all women are chimpanzees!

Don't insult the chimps...their outter brain is almost as developed as the human's; they show all but tertiary emotions, show strong evidence of conscious cognition, and don't follow raw instinct. Same with most other apes; and a good deal of 4-legged mammals.

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

Duh, human have evolved beyond the primal instinct stage!

Not entirely. Your observational skills aren't very well honed. Either that, or you don't get out much.

quote:Originally posted by Hexadecimal:

Holy shit man...you act like the primal brain is immune to change. You have gone into negative credibility.

Edit: And in case you don't know this, every last thing you have advised is bound to fail for the rookie, because they lack true confidence; they are bound to make mistakes when faking a persona, thus leaving themselves open to some REALLY viscious manipulation. Women don't take kindly to being fucked around with.



The reasons females are attracted to males go back to bare bone instincts.

Otherewise it isn't true attraction, it's logical attraction that they themselves force themselves to feel. Which is why women end up cheating on their husbands. because their REAL NATURAL PRIMAL instincts start showing their face over and over and over and over again.

Bare bone instincts don't change.

I haven't gone into negative anything.

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You rabbit on about confidence, yet if you had any REAL confidence in yourself, you wouldn't need all these tricks and methods in order to snare a female.

quote:Originally posted by Marchesa:

You rabbit on about confidence, yet if you had any REAL confidence in yourself, you wouldn't need all these tricks and methods in order to snare a female.



For people who are not completely into the field, i give them tricks so they themselves can observe reactions, etc.

I really don't anymore, it's just natural reactions now. I surprised myself a week or so ago by having sex without even really hitting on the girl, just conversating as i normally would. Which would be completely different than how i did 5-6 years ago.

Alright update mother fuckers, I went through with it cause I'm not a pussy. I actually talked to her for a while about school and just other shit kind of an inductory thing you know. And all of you were saying that no one on totse was capable of pulling off such a difficult task.

I'm joking its not difficult, you just gotta say 'fuck it why not'.

BTW this topic looks dead

Ok, here's mine:

I am 15, soph. in high school. I'm currently courting a freshman girl.

I asked her out on a date and she said yes, and suggested we go on a double date with her best friend and her boyfriend at the movies.

However, she was grounded for going to a school football game, which her father took her to so she could work the food stand for a school club. Her parents are scrict as hell, very protective, really too much so.

Now, we can't see each other out of school for 2 weeks, and I don't see her all that much during school, and I want to know how I can keep these flames from simmering down. I talk to her a lot online but thats teh intarweb. How can I keep her interested in going out on that date as soon as she's ungrounded?

Background on the girl

She basically lives at our church, which I just recently began attending, for many reasons. She plays in the church band for the youth group meetings on sundays sometimes. She's a student leader, and a lot of girls come to her for advice and stuff.

Guys i'm here, just very busy.

I'll answer everything and include the thing for I-rapetards in about a half hour to 45 minutes.

Whatever, I'll post here too since I could use more advice.

quote:Ok, so here's the skinny. I met this girl in my gym class, we are both seniors, and it was a very awkward meeting. She came up to me one day in the beginning of the year while I was just chilling, minding my own business and sat next to me on the bleachers and just started talking to me. Of course, I was bamboozled by this, then 5 seconds later I finally said something and continued the converstation. Now this girl is gorgeous, I mean wow...That's why I was kinda stunned about why she would talk to me. I'm not hideous or anything, but nothing I would ever consider dating material to her.

Every day in the beginning of class she approaches me and talks to me, I never approach her first though. She likes to stand real close to me when she talks to me and when I'm looking at her, especially in the eyes, I notice her pupils dilate every time I talk to her and no, it's not in a dark room and I'm pretty sure she isn't on drugs. She has put her hands on me a few times, but nothing I would consider sexual.

Although, she is a very energetic type of girl and is very sympathetic toward other people's feelings although I'm the only guy she talks to in class and the rest are her friends and it's really awkward trying to make conversation with 4 other girls around so I kinda of ignore her when she's with her friends. Is this good or bad? She also is president of our school's NHS (national honor society) club and is pretty popular, but she isn't like the other preppy bitches at my school. She's different.

So is she really into me or is she just being nice?

hah this thread is funny.

I don't know, I think what works for one guy doesn't work for all guys, so maybe your techniques are just useless to someone else. It is nice though, that you're helping them out, sometimes just advice gives confidence, reassurance etc etc.



You sound cocky. Like you could get ANY girl. I could gaurentee that if I met you outside of totse, without knowing you were this totse member, you could not 'seduce' me or whatever you believe you have the amazing capabilities to do.

quote:Originally posted by peace frog:

hah this thread is funny.

I don't know, I think what works for one guy doesn't work for all guys, so maybe your techniques are just useless to someone else. It is nice though, that you're helping them out, sometimes just advice gives confidence, reassurance etc etc.



You sound cocky. Like you could get ANY girl. I could gaurentee that if I met you outside of totse, without knowing you were this totse member, you could not 'seduce' me or whatever you believe you have the amazing capabilities to do.

Honestly, you wouldn't be able to help but become attracted to me.

I always have to downplay myself and change my personality a lot for peoples GF's. That's one thing i NEVER do is take someones girlfriend, that's low and pathetic.

But I wouldn't try and "seduce" you. I'd merely be what has become of me from my experiences and you wouldn't be able to help but be attracted to me.

quote:Originally posted by a1b2c3d4c5d6e:

Honestly, you wouldn't be able to help but become attracted to me.

A photo would help