I mean come on people. Is everyone still living in the 17th century? if you get out and talk to a variety of people, you will notice that many (especially conservatives/christians) are A) homophobic or B) terrinly against homosexuality. even alot of the teens of america - possibly the most democratic entity of america - look down on gay piers and make fun of queers. i mean WTF?!? people are people jesus christ ... get over their sexuality. Which leads me to my next point, Why Do alot of gays take on a different - social style just because of their sexuality? (aka- talk different, where pink) I am bi myself, but im stilla guy. I mean i dont want to go around in a purple satin shirt and scream oh behave to passerbys. Is it a fad or do they really feel like expressing themselves that way?

And on the 8th day after his nap God burned all the fags.

You can't expect people to change their minds about their religious beliefs to accomidate homosexuals. I do, however, think that a person's sexuality is no one else's business.

And the reason why so many gays act effeminate is because they see so many other gays being complete flamers. Same reason why so many black people need to be "fitted" and talk ebonics. It's just part of the culture, so they act the part.

quote:I mean come on people. Is everyone still living in the 17th century?

quote:you will notice that many (especially conservatives/christians)

I'm personally not against homosexuals.

However maybe it's because liberal pieces of shit like yourself force *acceptance* and *tolerance* of homosexuals and any or every other minority group out there down everyone's throat.

Reflex action is not to accept or tolerate.

Freedom of speach works both ways.

quote:Originally posted by I Love Poop:

Freedom of speach works both ways.

Interesting perspective. I've never once seen a show that dosn't push anything but politically correct values. Still I'd prefer that to shows where people go around lynching their neighbors.

quote:lynching their neighbors

Who said anything about "lynching their neighbors" and...

who said homosexuals don't fight back?

http://www.pinkpistols.org

quote:politically correct values



I'd prefer that

If you were truely politically correct you would have to accept (now full and true acceptence is debatable) and tolerate anyone.

Even individuals who hate homosexuals as a whole for whatever reason or reasons.

Not doing so would not be accepting them for their beliefs.

You have to tolerate and accept them just as you would someone, for example, who believes in the Klu Klux Klan.

Otherwise you are not being politically correct or tolerant of other individuals beliefs. You are a hater of the haters. The worst kind.

Basically my point is, although I disagree with someone on the basis that they hate all homosexuals, I don't get all worked up over it like the topic starter appearantly does. Also nor do I have to accept or even tolerant someone because that is what is deemed proper socialization by societies standards.

quote:Originally posted by I Love Poop:

If you were truely politically correct you would have to accept (now full and true acceptence is debatable) and tolerate anyone.

Even individuals who hate homosexuals as a whole for whatever reason or reasons.

Not doing so would not be accepting them for their beliefs.

You have to tolerate and accept them just as you would someone, for example, who believes in the Klu Klux Klan.

Otherwise you are not being politically correct or tolerant of other individuals beliefs. You are a hater of the haters. The worst kind.

Not true. There's a difference between tolerating a person's skin color or sexual preference and their ideas. A person picks his or her beliefs, but loving the cock isn't something you can change.

I accept gays, I don't know many people that don't... it's just they get pissed off when there's all these gays forcing their ways on to us. I know I'd get annoyed with ANY group trying to force acceptance.

IMO , people only dislike gays because they keep imagnining them in a sexual way , meaning all they think of is them doing the sexual act. And if that repulses them , then there breeds the hatred.

*VROOOOOOM*



*looks around*

not here either.

*VROOOOOOOM*

i'm not against them. a lot of people i know get freaked out when theres an obvious fag, like a "screaming queen" around, but i dont give a shit as long as they arent creeping me out.

You guys are all retarded. We need to judge and hate people based on their beliefs. What else are we going to judge based on? I'm not just going to accept every homophobe and nazi as completely cool simply because I'm so amazingly PC that I can't judge anyone. Homophobes are wrong. Period. End of story. They're not correct in thinking that straight people and gay people are inherently different in any way other than sexuality. They believe something that is incorrect and harmful to the world. They hurt people. That's wrong. Homosexual males believe that men are more attractive than women, which is a matter of preference. You can't say that this guy is wrong any more than you can say that someone else is wrong for liking the Misfits. You're an asshole if you go around Misfit-fan-bashing.

Jesus, you guys are fucktards. People who believe things that are contrary to fact are incorrect.

I hate gays that force their sexuality in my face just as much as I hate christians who force their religion to me. Flash your pink g-string at me and call me 'silly buns' and I'll hit you just as hard as a Christian telling me I'll go to hell if I dont convert.

All in all I dont have a problem with homosexuality, I have a problem with certain fucking gays.

quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:



I hate gays that force their sexuality in my face just as much as I hate christians who force their religion to me. Flash your pink g-string at me and call me 'silly buns' and I'll hit you just as hard as a Christian telling me I'll go to hell if I dont convert.

All in all I dont have a problem with homosexuality, I have a problem with certain fucking gays.

Will you hit a Christian just sitting there talking about their religion? Because that's the equivelant. Believe it or not, not all people's actions are influenced by your presence. Some people have personalities that aren't impacted by your being there. Why in the fuck does everyone have to change who they are so you won't feel like they're shoving their sexuality down your throat? You're not justified in feeling this way, so they shouldn't have to change for you. Fucking asshole

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

You guys are all retarded. We need to judge and hate people based on their beliefs. What else are we going to judge based on? I'm not just going to accept every homophobe and nazi as completely cool simply because I'm so amazingly PC that I can't judge anyone. Homophobes are wrong. Period. End of story. They're not correct in thinking that straight people and gay people are inherently different in any way other than sexuality. They believe something that is incorrect and harmful to the world. They hurt people. That's wrong. Homosexual males believe that men are more attractive than women, which is a matter of preference. You can't say that this guy is wrong any more than you can say that someone else is wrong for liking the Misfits. You're an asshole if you go around Misfit-fan-bashing.



I agree

Not long ago, I found out my best friend since 3rd grade (we're in college now) is gay. It's odd though, because he still says things like "That's gay" and "What a fucking fag!" Though I don't support it at all, I tolerate it because he's like my brother. The biggest thing wrong with homosexaulity is the fact that it kills. Over 50% of all AIDS cases in the US are from homosexauls. Homosexual men have a 3% chance of living past the age of 60! Being homosexual raises a man's risk of anal cancer by 4000%. Why? Semen contains a substaince composed of immuno-regulatory macromolecules. These molecules sense the fertility in a woman and help direct the sperm cells toward the egg. What happens when female genes can't be found? The sperms cells merge with the nearest foreign cells (the cells of the reciever's colon) forming cell malignancies (cancer). The average life span of gay men is 41...not including death from AIDS. The average life span of gay men with AIDS is 39. Gays say everyone has a right to love. I agree, but not when that love kills you. A man living a gay lifestyle from the age of 20 to 50 gives himself a 50% chance of contracting HIV. The only way that being gay would be somewhat healthy is to:

1) Limit partners. The average gay male has 30+ sex partners a year and 6+ life partners (not exactly healthy).

2) End sodomy. Stick to HJs and BJs.

Overall, homosexuality is not normal (normal being defined as that with functions according to its own design), nor is it in any way healthy.

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quote:Originally posted by Jasper Jones:

Not true. There's a difference between tolerating a person's skin color or sexual preference and their ideas. A person picks his or her beliefs, but loving the cock isn't something you can change.

Who and the fuck said anything about CHANGING anyone?

I don't want to change a homosexual.

I don't want to change someone who hates homosexuals.

I don't want to change someone's ideas or beliefs.

I don't have to agree with them but it's their own free will if they choose to hate someone based solely on sexuality, race, etc.

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

You guys are all retarded. We need to judge and hate people based on their beliefs. What else are we going to judge based on?

lol what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

You're the retard, retard.

quote:Homophobes are wrong. Period. End of story.

I'm sure they would disagree with you.

I would disagree with you solely on the grounds that you're a fucking idiot.

quote:You can't say that this guy is wrong any more than you can say that someone else is wrong for liking the Misfits.

Your logic sucks stinky hot ass. In that case you can't say someone who is a homophobe is wrong either.

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

Will you hit a Christian just sitting there talking about their religion? Because that's the equivelant.

Suprisingly I agree with you completely on this one.

I personally wouldn't hit either.

Instead I would hit the liberal sissy pants who tells me I "have to accept or tolerate" someone or something because it is deemed proper socialization in todays society.

James is a little bitch for starting this piss shit topic.

quote:Originally posted by I Love Poop:

James is a little bitch for starting this piss shit topic.

quote:Originally posted by I Love Poop:

I'm personally not against homosexuals.

However maybe it's because liberal pieces of shit like yourself force *acceptance* and *tolerance* of homosexuals and any or every other minority group out there down everyone's throat.

Reflex action is not to accept or tolerate.

Freedom of speach works both ways.

I agree totally. People who refuse to tolerate my intolerance piss me off.

Gay people are not humans or even mammals, bottom line. they do not deserve equal rights or even human right. why? because they decide to fuck other men instead of procrating. None of them can procreate, and that why they are not in the same catagory as normal men. luckily they will eventually die off because of this.

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

Will you hit a Christian just sitting there talking about their religion? Because that's the equivelant. Believe it or not, not all people's actions are influenced by your presence. Some people have personalities that aren't impacted by your being there. Why in the fuck does everyone have to change who they are so you won't feel like they're shoving their sexuality down your throat? You're not justified in feeling this way, so they shouldn't have to change for you. Fucking asshole

I have no problem talking to Christians about their religion or gays about their sexuality, HELL I've got several bi and christian friends. But when I'm down at the beach and two grown men sit down next to me and start grinding in speedos it starts to invade my personal space. Just as I start to get uncomfortable when Christians persue me down the street for minutes pushing paper against me trying to make me take one telling me I'll go to hell.

That said and done, you go off at me saying that it's bad for people to make other people change who they are for them. Think of it from my perspective, I don't hate gay people, but some take things too far when they dont need to in a way that I find uncomfortable. Your answer is of course that I have to change? If some gay peoeple would respect that their sexuality is accepted but flaunting overly makes some people uncomfortable, nobody would have to change for anyone else.

I Love Poop, for this one, I'm with you for once. Fuck political correctness. I personally think homophobes are idiots, but we all think people who disagree with us are idiots. But just because I think someone is a fucktard to believing something in no way means they shouldn't be albe to believe it. Even if it does make them dumbass fucktards. Especially DivineShaft.

quote:Originally posted by TheDivineShaft:

luckily they will eventually die off because of this.

how were the current gay people born? mostly from straight parents. most parents are shocked and/or appalled when theire gay son tells them hes gay.

therefore they will not die off due to no procreation, as 'faggotry' is not genetic.

personally im not against gay people, im only against it when they start advertising it. like those fucking gay pride parades. im not about to tell anyone i meet 'hi, im straight' so why the fuck should gay people tell everyone their gay?

if they kept it to themselves my theory is that they wouldnt be discriminated against as much as they are.

quote:Originally posted by yomammasfatass:

personally im not against gay people, im only against it when they start advertising it. like those fucking gay pride parades. im not about to tell anyone i meet 'hi, im straight' so why the fuck should gay people tell everyone their gay?

if they kept it to themselves my theory is that they wouldnt be discriminated against as much as they are.

Listen to this man.

quote:Originally posted by TheDivineShaft:

Gay people are not humans or even mammals, bottom line. they do not deserve equal rights or even human right. why? because they decide to fuck other men instead of procrating. None of them can procreate, and that why they are not in the same catagory as normal men. luckily they will eventually die off because of this.

So then, does that mean using birth control is the same way? You're not procreating either way, and following your logic, anytime ANYONE has sex, they MUST be procreating, or theyre "not human, and dont deserve equal rights" as everyone else.



And really, I have nothing against gays, I have friends who are gay. I even dont have anything against gay guys hitting on me (it's really no different from a girl I dont like who hits on me..). They've got every right to do so, to talk to me, hit on me, check out my ass, whatever... just like EVERY other person on this planet has a right to do, male, female, gay, or straight. Do I neccisarely AGREE with what they're doing, or enjoy it? No, but just because I dont side with it, doesn't mean that they dont have a right to do so anyways.

There's a lot of things I dont agree with that people do, but it still doesn't mean that they dont have a right to do it. Like the gay pride parade examples. Do I think they're pretty dumb? Yes, but they still have a right to have them, just like anyone else in the US can hold any other kind of parade they want to.

And yes, I know theres gonna be some jackasses who are like "But theyre infringing on my life by talking to me or checking me out!" or something. Well you know what, TOUGH SHIT. That's life, deal with it. If you cant handle people looking at you, or socializing with you, then maybe you should stay at home with all the curtains closed, eating Ramen noodles the rest of your life.

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quote:Originally posted by yomammasfatass:

personally im not against gay people, im only against it when they start advertising it. like those fucking gay pride parades.

I would only be against a gay pride parade in the event,

they wouldn't allow a straight pride parade to take place.

If one group is to get reconizition then the other should as well if they so desire it.

Otherwise those fruit cakes and candy asses can do whatever the hell they want.

If two homosexuals want to marry and pay more in taxes to the government. Fine with me.

quote:Originally posted by I Love Poop:

However maybe it's because liberal pieces of shit like yourself force *acceptance* and *tolerance* of homosexuals and any or every other minority group out there down everyone's throat.

To tolerate something is to put up with it. You tolerate long lines at the bank. You tolerate the idiots at the video store. Tolerance does not mean you have to like something, so what's the big deal with tolerating gays or any other groups?

Gay people kick ass. More women for me Gotta be optimistic.

I agree with I Love Poop. I'm tired of having "diversity" crammed down my throat.

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The South Park episode featuring special guest Lemmiwinks (the gerbil) where Mr. Garrision attempts to get fired due to his sexuality, where the children are forced to visit the Museum of Tolerance and are subsequently sent to The Tolerance Camp and in conclusion the message of tolerance and acceptance given by Mr. Garrision towards the very end of the episode really puts everything in prospective.

quote:Originally posted by SkiPpYP:

To tolerate something is to put up with it. You tolerate long lines at the bank. You tolerate the idiots at the video store. Tolerance does not mean you have to like something, so what's the big deal with tolerating gays or any other groups?

The point is you should not make someone tolerate any individual, anything or any idea based solely on it is deemed proper socialization of modern day society.

Tolerating homosexuals or any other group isn't a big deal until certain individuals make it in to a big deal.

I tolerate liberals but that doesn't mean I am not entitled to make a generalization in the effect of "I hate all liberals". That is my entitlement and my choice.

Apathy is the key to a happy life.

I really think its time for hetrosexual pride parades. Course, all the PC pieces of shit would probably claim that it discriminates against gays or something.

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quote:Originally posted by CatharticWeek:

All in all I dont have a problem with [insert sub-culture, minority or religion here], I have a problem with certain fucking [same as above].

It's multi-purpose!

the love that dare not speak its name nowadays just won't fuckin shutup...

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

the love that dare not speak its name nowadays just won't fuckin shutup...

what the FUCK are you talking about assrake

LOL Whitford, you're gay.

People are still against gays, because like every other debate, there are different viewpoints and opinions. There will always be different viewpoints and opinions because not everyone thinks the same way.

It's like murder. Everyone believes killing is bad, right? WRONG!! If this were true, there wouldn't be any murderers. People have different viewpoints on life.

quote:Originally posted by dimm:

People are still against gays, because like every other debate, there are different viewpoints and opinions. There will always be different viewpoints and opinions because not everyone thinks the same way.

It's like murder. Everyone believes killing is bad, right? WRONG!! If this were true, there wouldn't be any murderers. People have different viewpoints on life.

You're saying that people who commit murder think it's right? It's not a matter of different viewpoints, it's a matter of accepting the fact that there is a right and there is a wrong. Homosexuality is a shady area; we all have a right to love, but at what cost to ourselves and our loved ones. If anyone bothered to read my earlier post, they'd see a few of the statistics proving that homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle. That doesn't take away peoples' right to live that way, but it gives people a good, logical reason to be against it. What gay organizations need to do is make the health risks and statistics known to people that are gay. They at least have a right to know what science says about their lifestyle, just like smokers have a right to know smoking causes cancer. But what do gays do that know these facts? Do they warn fellow gays and people questioning their sexuality? No. They keep quiet about the facts, fearing they may inhibit the sexual freedoms of their peers. It's bullshit. Another thing gays should quit doing is refering to the Kinsey report that said 10% of all people are gay. That report was published in the 50s and has been disproved time and time again (the poll wasn't really random). Recent polls conducted in the US, Britian, France, Canada, and the Netherlands suggest the actaul percentage of gays ranges from 1%-2%.

I think the statistics you provided were pointless.

The same things could be said about other unhealthy lifestyles as you so ignorantly put homosexuality.

Drinking and driving, Drinking in general, ciggarettes. I mean what are the deaths alone each year on those 3 things? Do you see president Bush outlawing and banning any of those things?

Puting regulations on those? Homosexuality is just something that people need and like to hate.

Nothing other than that. I don't mind homosexuals. People are just afraid of something they don't understand. Who cares what happend.

You are going to talk shit about liberals? Cramming stuff down people's throats? Is that why I am told that I can be harassed by any officer of the law if I look like a terrorist?

Just accept the fact that you can't change anyone who is homosexual and you shouldn't wait up long nights, because they get more ass than you. Also, no gay men has sex without a condom. I would like to think they want to avoid bacterial infections.

Anyways,

quote:Originally posted by uebe:

And on the 8th day after his nap God burned all the fags.

LMAO. I'm sure there's something in the Bible that says being gay is forbidden. What did God do to the Sodomites in that city? Burn all the fuckers. So if there is a God, you fags are doomed to eternal damnation,

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

You guys are all retarded. We need to judge and hate people based on their beliefs. What else are we going to judge based on? I'm not just going to accept every homophobe and nazi as completely cool simply because I'm so amazingly PC that I can't judge anyone. Homophobes are wrong. Period. End of story. They're not correct in thinking that straight people and gay people are inherently different in any way other than sexuality. They believe something that is incorrect and harmful to the world. They hurt people. That's wrong. Homosexual males believe that men are more attractive than women, which is a matter of preference. You can't say that this guy is wrong any more than you can say that someone else is wrong for liking the Misfits. You're an asshole if you go around Misfit-fan-bashing.

Jesus, you guys are fucktards. People who believe things that are contrary to fact are incorrect.

You're a fucking idiot. There is a difference between straight and gay men and if you can't see that then you're an idiot. I personally think being gay is wrong, and I'm entitled to my opinions (as are you), but you're still a fucking idiot. I can't be bothered explaining or going into detail so we'll leave it at that.

quote:Originally posted by I love Poop:

lol what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

You're the retard, retard.

Well said.

quote: Originally posted by TheDivineShaft:

Gay people are not humans or even mammals, bottom line. they do not deserve equal rights or even human right. why? because they decide to fuck other men instead of procrating. None of them can procreate, and that why they are not in the same catagory as normal men. luckily they will eventually die off because of this.

LMAO, I agree.

"luckily they will eventually die off because of this." - Let's hope so.

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

the love that dare not speak its name nowadays just won't fuckin shutup...

Yeah, what the FUCK are you talking about you old butt-hat? Stop posting your retarded shit all over the place it's starting to stink.

quote: Originally posted by TheDivineShaft:

what the FUCK are you talking about assrake

LMAO, I guess I'm not the only one who agrees jackketch is an asstard.

Ok well I dont personally have a prob with gey people! It's the fact that they are gay! I can talk to gay ppl and be friends with them and everything but I just dont like the actually being gay. Irealize some people have had a pretty fucked up life and it's not their fault how they feel, but me personally can't comprehend whet makes a person be that way! I don't like it because God clearly made it to were a man is with a woman, that is why there was Adam and Eve.. not Adam and Steve... he mad a penis and vagina for a reason... penis can't go in penis.. vagina cant go with vagina... yes there are other ways around this, but apparently they weren't meant to be used with the same sex either.... STD's. Gays are the reason for most Std's.... I don't know I am gonna shut up now...

quote:Originally posted by Huggy Bear:

LMAO, I guess I'm not the only one who agrees jackketch is an asstard.



awww sounds like scumbucket is still sore that big bad zok closed his thread...awww

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:



awww sounds like scumbucket is still sore that big bad zok closed his thread...awww



What thread might that be? I don't remember making a thread and getting it closed (you see, I don't really give a damn).

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

I think the statistics you provided were pointless.

The same things could be said about other unhealthy lifestyles as you so ignorantly put homosexuality.

Drinking and driving, Drinking in general, ciggarettes. I mean what are the deaths alone each year on those 3 things? Do you see president Bush outlawing and banning any of those things?



I didn't say being gay should be outlawed, dumbass. I do think gay organizations should be more upfront about the risks of being gay. It isn't all about "living free" and "being who you are". Being gay has risks, big risks, and people have a right to know that.

quote:Puting regulations on those? Homosexuality is just something that people need and like to hate.

Nothing other than that. I don't mind homosexuals. People are just afraid of something they don't understand. Who cares what happend.

And people hate paedophiles because they don't understand them. It comes naturally to a paedophile to want to have sex with children. We just don't understand that. That's why we persecute them. /sarcasm

quote:Just accept the fact that you can't change anyone who is homosexual and you shouldn't wait up long nights, because they get more ass than you. Also, no gay men has sex without a condom. I would like to think they want to avoid bacterial infections.



Yes. No gay men have sex without condoms. That explains why they have a 4000% higher chance of getting anal cancer than straight men. /sarcasm

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quote: You're saying that people who commit murder think it's right? It's not a matter of different viewpoints, it's a matter of accepting the fact that there is a right and there is a wrong.

"there is a right and there is a wrong" is STILL based on viewpoints and opinions. For example - What people think in the the Western world as being "moral" is not the same as what people in some parts of the Eastern world think is "moral". Just because we say it's "right", doesn't mean the rest of the world agrees.

[/QUOTE]Homosexuality is a shady area; we all have a right to love, but at what cost to ourselves and our loved ones. If anyone bothered to read my earlier post, they'd see a few of the statistics proving that homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle. That doesn't take away peoples' right to live that way, but it gives people a good, logical reason to be against it. What gay organizations need to do is make the health risks and statistics known to people that are gay. They at least have a right to know what science says about their lifestyle, just like smokers have a right to know smoking causes cancer. But what do gays do that know these facts? Do they warn fellow gays and people questioning their sexuality? No. They keep quiet about the facts, fearing they may inhibit the sexual freedoms of their peers. It's bullshit. Another thing gays should quit doing is refering to the Kinsey report that said 10% of all people are gay. That report was published in the 50s and has been disproved time and time again (the poll wasn't really random). Recent polls conducted in the US, Britian, France, Canada, and the Netherlands suggest the actaul percentage of gays ranges from 1%-2%.[/QUOTE]

Now you're just ranting. If you read my response correctly, you'd see where I'm coming from - I didn't even state my opinion on Homosexuality, I only stated why OTHER people have different viewpoints.

quote:Originally posted by dimm:

If you read my response correctly, you'd see where I'm coming from - I didn't even state my opinion on Homosexuality, I only stated why OTHER people have different viewpoints.

And what I'm suggesting that it isn't all just a matter of one person's view or another. Suppose there is a definitive right and an definitive wrong. Not everyone is always right or always wrong. What my little rant supplied were the facts supporting my viewpoints, answering the original question "Why are people still against gays?".

I'm not against gays, I just think they should keep there sexuality to themselves. They flaunt their 'gayness' and expect everyone to just give them what they want, because if you don't they'll play the discrimination card. Just like blacks and the NAACP, If a black kid doesn't get accepted to a school he wants, he can very easily call up the NAACP and whine about false racism. All in all, forced tolerance isn't tolerance, its bullshit. Same thing with the FemiNazis, they don't want equality, they want to be in charge, they want not equal power and rights than men, they want more.

And if the Kinsey report is wrong, and only 1-2% of the entire population is gay, then lets do the American thing and put it to a vote, Majority rules.

1-2% vs 98-98%

Who Wins?

Fuck the liberals, and their 'tolerance'!

quote:Originally posted by James A. Whitford:

I mean come on people. Is everyone still living in the 17th century? if you get out and talk to a variety of people, you will notice that many (especially conservatives/christians) are A) homophobic or B) terrinly against homosexuality. even alot of the teens of america - possibly the most democratic entity of america - look down on gay piers and make fun of queers. i mean WTF?!? people are people jesus christ ... get over their sexuality. Which leads me to my next point, Why Do alot of gays take on a different - social style just because of their sexuality? (aka- talk different, where pink) I am bi myself, but im stilla guy. I mean i dont want to go around in a purple satin shirt and scream oh behave to passerbys. Is it a fad or do they really feel like expressing themselves that way?





No, I'm not living in the 7th century; I'm living in the 9th century. Viking Power muhahahaha. Homophopia is a way of life damnit. MOST OF AMERICA HATES YOU. The only people that like homos are the liberal scum.

it seems to me the gay community has chosen a thing that they can numb us to there shit. if they dress up as angels or run around in manthongs enough, well accpet them.

no.

instead, they are exacerbating the problem. they are sinking in the stereotypes, and giving ppl just cause to think they are freaks.

i cruise bodybuilding boards. there are a few gays on there. these are gays i respect. they arent the weak, lisping, limp wristed pussies that the stereotype is. see, i dont care who you love, but i hate weakness. and an effeminant man, gay or not, seems weak to me.

these gays also dont like the flamers. they know they are doing more to hurt than good. i think flamers are out to get a reaction. these ppl hate themselves, and maybe seek to have that validated. in turn, they can blame there overtly gay ways for the reason why they arent liked. in truth, its not because they like man ass, but because they are assholes. the pathology they have is incredible, and not one id even bother trying to change.

and yes, homos do have more problems than straights. after this past election, calls to gay suicide hotlines tripled. i dont know which came first, the gay or the mental problems, but by and large they are intertwined.

they arent going to go away. and i think largly the population at large as taken a step to them. they need to do the same.

A wise man once told me. Just because you like dicks up ur anal cavity dosent make you any less of a man.

You can't rid the world of all the people you don't like. The anti-homosexuality is merely part of their beliefs, it is in the bible that homosexuals were punished by god for their ways, and they believe that the lifestyle is perverse. You can't strip people of their beliefs (though they can do that to themselves). All you can ask is that they be tolerant and even if they believe the lifestyle is perverse, is to not force their beliefs on anyone else.

Your point would have been more relevant if you would have had better grammar (ie wear and where have two different meanings). It is also ironic that you said Jesus Christ in your post but did not know or care enough to understand that Christianity condemns homosexuality.

By the way I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality or bisexuality, but I do have a problem with people that are intolerant and do not take the time understand others (usually due to their arrogance).

Good Luck

quote:Originally posted by uebe:

And on the 8th day after his nap God burned all the fags.

In the Bible, women were punished for having periods. Now, I don't think that the Bible should be a more valid value system than, oh, say, this: http://www.kkk.bz/index1.htm.

quote:In the Bible, women were punished for having periods

no they weren't. try reading the book. (and before another flame fest starts i should add i studied for the priesthood and will happily kick anyone's arse who wants to argue otherwise but in the appropriate forum ,not here!)

quote:Originally posted by GlitterPunk112358:

You guys are all retarded. We need to judge and hate people based on their beliefs. What else are we going to judge based on? I'm not just going to accept every homophobe and nazi as completely cool simply because I'm so amazingly PC that I can't judge anyone. Homophobes are wrong. Period. End of story. They're not correct in thinking that straight people and gay people are inherently different in any way other than sexuality. They believe something that is incorrect and harmful to the world. They hurt people. That's wrong. Homosexual males believe that men are more attractive than women, which is a matter of preference. You can't say that this guy is wrong any more than you can say that someone else is wrong for liking the Misfits. You're an asshole if you go around Misfit-fan-bashing.

Jesus, you guys are fucktards. People who believe things that are contrary to fact are incorrect.

Yes beign a homosexual is wrogn. Beign gay is a sin so yes people can say someone is wrong for being gay. God also teaches acceptance and forgiveness though so I dont deny their existence or thier right to but I dont have to like them.......and I dont.

[This message has been edited by Trigger Happy Badass (edited 01-01-2005).]

Homosexuality goes against nature. Living organisms are designed to reproduce. That is pretty much the point of living, many creatures die after mating. Until men are able to produce butt babies then homosexuals are wrong.

Do I bitch at people because they don't listen to Iron Maiden ? Do I throw a huge pussy fit when people don't want pinapple and ham on our pizza ? Do I bitch and moan when people listen to shitty-ass rap music in my house ? NO. So, I don't wanna hear you running your fucking gums when I say FAGS JUST PLAIN ANNOY ME, among other things. Stop being a whiny liberal cunt, and go have butt sex in your own home.

quote:Originally posted by Jasper Jones:

Not true. There's a difference between tolerating a person's skin color or sexual preference and their ideas. A person picks his or her beliefs, but loving the cock isn't something you can change.

Whether you can or can't change it, I can hate you as much as I want. It's my right. So, why even argue about it ? Does that mean I have the right to beat your ass ? No. So, just live in peace with your mutual enmity, and we'll be all set.

quote:Originally posted by Billy Idol:

Whether you can or can't change it, I can hate you as much as I want. It's my right. So, why even argue about it ? Does that mean I have the right to beat your ass ? No. So, just live in peace with your mutual enmity, and we'll be all set.



Hmm. Interesting. If only you practiced what you preach, you might not be in the trouble you claim to be in here:

quote:Originally posted by Billy Idol:

I beat the shit out of him because he a bigoted racist Schweinhund. For over a year, he would constantly make derogatory remarks about my family's financial hardships, ethnicity, and religion. Plus, he always used to tough talk me like he was some kind of mobster.

He's Jewish, and lives in a 4 million dollar beachfront home. I, on the other hand, live in an average-sized home. I'm Catholic, and my dad's side of the family is from northern Iraq. Living amongst Muslims in Mosul for most of his youth and young adulthood, my dad learned that you can't afford to take shit from anybody. Obviously, he instilled that into my brothers and me. So, when I am called a "sand nigger", "fucking chaldean", "poor trailer trash" whilst being slapped in the back of the head, I tend to get a little angry.

It's funny. His whole family is like that, except for his older brother, who has been my best friend for four years.

Taken from this thread.

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum3/HTML/049031.html

I took screen shots of that thread in case it mysteriously disappears.

quote:Originally posted by Elephantitis Man:

Yes. No gay men have sex without condoms. That explains why they have a 4000% higher chance of getting anal cancer than straight men. /sarcasm



First of all, more upfront about the risks of being gay? What the fuck are you talking about? You really give a shit that more gay people are aware that they have a 400, or 4000%(whatever bullshit figure you posted) greater chance of getting anal cancer?

Also who is even talking about paedophilia? Which is violating a minor and taking advantage of someone not capable of making decisions. I am sorry that you dislike gay people are so "worried" that they have a greater chance of getting anal cancer.

I don't see you campaigning to get any other type of cancer related activity altered to the public.

quote:Originally posted by deadlycindy:

Taken from this thread.

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum3/HTML/049031.html

I took screen shots of that thread in case it mysteriously disappears.



The thing is, he was harassing me for over a year, and I just got tired of it. There's a difference. I'm not the guy who just hits someone just because he annoys me. It takes alot to get me to that point. I've only hit one other kid, and it was because he took my $40 and drove away instead of giving us the weed. So I asked him for a week to get my money back, and he wouldn't, so I just swung on him.

There are plenty of people I dislike, but I don't do anything unless I'm provoked severely.

the romans kicked major ass when it came to sex. the entire country was bisexual and loved every minute of it. they were also the original members of NAMBLA (or RMBLA?) which i find to be... strange... ok, so that part wasnt so cool. but the giant orgies were pretty awsome if you ask me.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

First of all, more upfront about the risks of being gay? What the fuck are you talking about? You really give a shit that more gay people are aware that they have a 400, or 4000%(whatever bullshit figure you posted) greater chance of getting anal cancer?

quote:Source of my "bullshit figure":

According to J. R. Daling et.al, "Correlates of Homosexual Behavior and the Incidence of Anal Cancer," Journal of the American Medical Association 247, no.14, 9 April 1982, pp. 1988-90, the risk of anal cancer soars by 4,000 percent among those who engage in such intercourse.

quote:Also who is even talking about paedophilia? Which is violating a minor and taking advantage of someone not capable of making decisions.

Do you think this organization was started by heterosexuals? http://216.220.97.17/

quote: I am sorry that you dislike gay people are so "worried" that they have a greater chance of getting anal cancer.[quote]

What?

[quote]I don't see you campaigning to get any other type of cancer related activity altered to the public.

It isn't just cancer.

quote: Youth who identify themselves as homosexual, lesbian and bisexual are four times more likely than their peers to suffer from major depression; three times more likely to suffer anxiety disorders, four times more likely to suffer conduct disorders, six times more likely to suffer from multiple disorders and more than six times more likely to have attempted suicide.

A 1997 New York Times article reported that a young male homosexual has about a 50 percent chance of getting HIV by middle age. (Sheryl Gay Stolberg, "Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (Late edition, East coast), Nov. 23, 1997, section 4, p.1)

As of 1998, 54 percent of all AIDS cases in America were homosexual men and, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), nearly 90 percent of these men acquired HIV through sexual activity with other men. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1998, June, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 10 (1)).

Even more alarming, the CDC reported in 1998 that an estimated half of all new HIV infections in the United States are among people under 25. In fact, 52 percent of all AIDS cases reported among 13-to 24-year-old males in 1997 were among men who have sex with men. (CDC Fact Sheet: "Young People at Risk," Center for Disease Control & Prevention, National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, July 24, 1998

There's more "bullshit facts" supporting why I dislike the gay agenda. Why do I know all these facts? Why am I so concerned that they aren't known to the public? A very good friend of mine is gay. He doesn't have a clue about any of the risks he's putting himself through. I know if I tell him, he'll most likely do what any gay person would do, call me an ignorant, homophobic bigot and never speak to me again. Considering the fact we've been friends for 10 years, I'd rather not have something like that happen.

i sense a lot of kids here are basing their arguements on what daddy told them... or someother misinformed bullshit.

people are gay, who cares

people are midgets, who cares

people are black, who cares..

gay midget n1gger sex.... man, i gotta see that.



whatever.

Did I read that right? That study was from 1982?

Your gay friend of 10 years would not talk to you if you told him that anal sex gives him a higher risk of anal afflictions.

If you really cared you would of already told him.

quote:Originally posted by CarbonB:

Did I read that right? That study was from 1982?

Your gay friend of 10 years would not talk to you if you told him that anal sex gives him a higher risk of anal afflictions.

If you really cared you would of already told him.

I highly doubt that in the past 20 years, the immuno-regulatory macromolecules in our semen evolved to a point that they no longer spontaniously merge with foriegn cells (which is what causes the cancer). It's not as simple as me telling him of the risks. I fear he will mistake my concern for contempt.

quote:

Youth who identify themselves as homosexual, lesbian and bisexual are four times more likely than their peers to suffer from major depression; three times more likely to suffer anxiety disorders, four times more likely to suffer conduct disorders, six times more likely to suffer from multiple disorders and more than six times more likely to have attempted suicide.

A 1997 New York Times article reported that a young male homosexual has about a 50 percent chance of getting HIV by middle age. (Sheryl Gay Stolberg, "Gay Culture Weighs Sense and Sexuality," New York Times (Late edition, East coast), Nov. 23, 1997, section 4, p.1)

As of 1998, 54 percent of all AIDS cases in America were homosexual men and, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), nearly 90 percent of these men acquired HIV through sexual activity with other men. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1998, June, HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 10 (1)).

Even more alarming, the CDC reported in 1998 that an estimated half of all new HIV infections in the United States are among people under 25. In fact, 52 percent of all AIDS cases reported among 13-to 24-year-old males in 1997 were among men who have sex with men. (CDC Fact Sheet: "Young People at Risk," Center for Disease Control & Prevention, National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention Division of HIV/AIDS Prevention, July 24, 1998



I describe myelf as being bisexual (as I have already said). I have suffered from depression. You know why? It's homophobic fucktards like you that point and laugh for something that I can't change. Would you laugh at someone in a wheelchair? Many of my friends will now no longer talk to me because of my sexual orientation. One of my best friends refused to sleep in the same ROOM as me during a trip to Hamburg. People now see me as a pervert, based on this one fact, ignoring completely what it means. I would have been much better off if those homophobic twatsacks learnt to accept and tolerate(eg put up with it, not care about it, not let it change anything). It wouldn't have affected them in any way. Why do they need to make it affect me more than nessecary?

Here's another statistic:

quote:One in four children in primary schools in the UK has been bullied regularly. One in three in secondary school.

I have no doubt that this is higher in the US (though I have no statistic, either).

These children are bullied for various reasons. It might be because of their appearance; it might be a mental issue, eg dyslexia; it might be because of a physical disablility, eg the child is in a wheelchair. The one thing in common with these is that they are all things that cannot be changed to suit the (unnessecary) wants of others...you can see where this is going.

NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) has nothing to do with normal gays or bisexuals. These people are paedophiles. Something completely different. There are undoubtedly at least a few organisations devoted to Man-Girl love. If you cannot see the difference between a paedophile and a homosexual, you need to see a doctor, or buy a dictionary or something.

Anal cancer?

I assume you are against smoking as well, for similar reasons. If not, this would definetely seem a bit hypocritical.

What happened to the right for people to do what they want, as long as it doesn't harm others (who don't consent)? Do you hate people who drink regularly? Do you hate people who eat fast food? Do you hate all fat people in general?

Stoyve

quote:Originally posted by S t o y v e:

What happened to the right for people to do what they want, as long as it doesn't harm others (who don't consent)? Do you hate people who drink regularly? Do you hate people who eat fast food? Do you hate all fat people in general?

Stoyve

I don't hate gays, dumbass. I spent new years eve at my gay friend and his fiance's apartment. Why don't you see how many other dumbfuck conclusions you can make about me? As for the right for others to do as they want, the whole point of the studies I posted were to display that it does harm someone. It's not that they don't have a right to do it, it's that they have a right to know the risks involved in doing so (which many of them don't). Would it be right of a tobacco company to knowingly sell a cancer causing product to people without giving them a fair warning? No, that's why they have surgeon general's warning on tobacco products. And if people still choose to smoke, that's fine and dandy. But people are being constantly pressured by gay rights groups to "come out of the closet" if they think they are gay, without warning people of the potential dangers of living such a lifestyle. These risks don't necessarily mean that homosexaulity, itself, it's what's so destructive. If gay men were a little more monogamous (the average gay guy has 30+ sex partners a year) and practiced oral sex and mutual masturbation instead of anal sex, one could possibly life a healthy, gay lifestyle. Unfortunately for newly gay people, gay organizations are more focused on recruiting more gay people than educating the ones they have on how to live healthier lifestyles.

[This message has been edited by Elephantitis Man (edited 01-02-2005).]

I'm sick of hearing about how people care about stuff that shouldn't concern them.

I seriously don't understand what some of you unemployed losers are thinking when you say something like "what is wrong with society when certain groups look down on other certain groups in this day and age of supposed acceptance and utopian equality!?"

I swear to god if I have to hear about one more persons personal opinion that they can only back up with anecdotal evidence and hearsay, I'm going to arrange for 17 bulging black cocks to violently skullfuck you until your neck explodes from internal pressure.

quote: To be posted by some retarded fatass:

well uhh you lyke said bad stuff about personal opinions but isnt your whole post one thus making it hypocritical?!11

quote: To be posted by me, a serious pimp:

No. My post is not only my opinion, but it is also solid fact that people who think they can reach a compromise between opposing parties by swapping idiotic anecdotes and arbitrary statistics are mostly losers trying to fill their empty lives with meaning by meddling in things that shouldn't even be a fucking issue in the first place.