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 #1 
Old 2004-12-08, 00:52
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The state of Illinois.
Default Mind Games (long) I need help.

Ah Girls. They are trouble.

Let me begin. When I moved to Florida I didn't know anyone, and I still don't, except for the few people I do weed/coke with but I don't count them.

One of the first things I did when I came here is went to the beach. Plus the job I had always took me to the beach, for hours on end. While working one day I came to a pizza shop. That is where she worked and still does on the weekends.

I'm never one to encounter girl problems cause every girl (most) think I'm a pretty attractive guy. But this girl is a different story.

let me finish my smoke before I type anymore.

(finish smoking)

Ok. Anyway this girl I met one day is very attractive. Well at least to me. My smoking buddies think she isnt too pretty. Only thing they think looks good about her is her body, which is AMAZING. I find her very pretty, she has pretty eyes too. Anyway.

We met around June last summer. I started my routine of trying to talk to her, and within the first day she gave me her phone number.

Now, numerous months later, numerous calls later, we've barely hang out or talk. She rarely picks up her phone. She "honestly" (i think most girls lie but she swears) that she is always busy with school and work. Bla Bla Bla.

Whenever she see's me she always smiles, giggles. I make her laugh and all that bullshit and she is very flirtatious with me.

And when she does pick up her phone she seems pleased to talk to me. She even does that bit of changing her voice to make it seem sweet and shit.

See, sometimes I get discouraged cause I try to call her like every couple days and she doesn't pick up her phone so I don't expect her to. But once, while I was working I called, just to call so I can say "ay i called you", and she picks up.

We talk and blabber and she says "hey why dont you come to my house tomorrow". One of the rare times we've hung out besides while she is working, and the only time I've been to her house.

So i drive the 45min drive to her house. When I arrive she is looking stunning. In a nice short dress, low cut shirt exposing her sexy stomach and what not. (see she even tries to look good for me when Im coming around cause once she was mad cause I didn't come see her at work when she "straightened" her hair for me). Yadda Yadda Yadda.

At the house we try watching a movie but all Im trying to do is get that first kiss.

Side track a little bit. We hung out once before. Smoked some weed together actually. We smoked in my car right. Im usually my out going self and talkative, making her laugh but I couldn't focus on nothing else but the fact she seemed to want to hang with me that night. Even in the car she was like "why arent you talking like you usually do", I was like "because im high". We finish smoking and she was like well I gotta go now, I was like "alright". I was just gonna let her walk out of the car and go back to her place, but she was like "arent you going to walk me to my door". (another sign that she could actually like me) So I walk her to her door. I was high so I was just trying to get home. I was complementing her on her looks, said I had a great time all that shit. Said I could roll a blunt better than her to. We got to her door and I was like "ok bye guess i'll talk to ya later" .. and she was like "well gimme a hug" (another think that makes me think she likes me but she plays too many mind games with me) So I gave her a hug, and it was a pretty good hug ya know. I didnt ask for it, she wanted it. We hug, a pretty close, strong hug. I took the igniative, held her there for a moment (probably more than likely could of gotten that kiss but I was too high to even try) and I even put my hands on her ass and waist. (just some of the little moves I do to see if a chick is feeling me or not and she didn't mind) Hug is over, we part our ways.

Back to her house. So we tried watching a movie. I forgot what it was though. We was sitting rather close too. I was talking to her like I always too. I was like "i wish you would tell me what you want here, out of me, am I just wasting my time with you or not" and she always says something to the extent of "shut up what are you talking about"..

Anyway, I think she got the drift I was getting bored. I was actually honestly within MINUTES of leaving. I didn't want to drive 45 mins for nothing. I didn't want sex, I just wanted something ya know.

So she starts flitting with me. Grabbed my cell phone. Said "what you gon' do if I throw your cell phone" .. (I thought to myself, ay, she flirting and igniating contact with me, im still in, im still in she wants me, as I still think shed does but she doesnt know what she really wants) I said "I'll beat your ass if you throw my cell phone. She throws it. Then throws a pillow at me. All this flirty stuff going on I noticed. I go get my cell phone sit back down, not really amused either.

Then out of no where she says "lets go to my room".

we get up, go to her room. immediately as we get in there she showing me her bed, all her stuff. her radio, all the nice "clothes" she has, all that girly stuff. Im just sitting on the bed, like "cool, cool". "yea thats nice"

She then gets on the bed besides me and says "how about you rub my back".

OUT OF NO WHERE. Im like "ok, no problem". She still wearing her lil skirt and shirt. I pull up her shirt some, get some oil and start rubbing her back. Im a pretty good back rubber , or so I think myself. I start rubbing her back. Her body is amazing.

anyway. Im rubbing her back. I lay down on top of her and kissed her neck and said "i could rub you all day". she smiled a little bit. I at least rub her back for a good 10-15 mins.

then she was like "ok ok thats good thats good" I then get off and lay beside her.

(sorry this is long. i dont go asking for advice much and im in need of it or some opinions. im trying to bring all the history of me and this girl to the table so yall can over look it)

The whole time at her house, Im trying to get close to her, kinda tease her like Im trying to kiss her. I lean in close and say "what would you do if i tried to kiss you" she always say "i wouldnt let you kiss me" HA.

While laying beside her she turns over start looking me in the face, eye to eye. I think to myself, ya she definitely wants me to kiss her. So I kiss her once, then I say "see i knew you'd let me kiss you", then we start "making out" for a long time.

Im talking about passionate stuff. I was kissing her all over. Lifting up her skirt too, she had on a white g-string . Kissing her stomach (cause I always told her I was going to), every where. She didnt like tongue kissing though, I dont really like a lot of "french kissing" either cause most girls can't do it right. Its either too much tongue and I dont like a lot of tongue.

we kiss for what seem an hour. people are calling her up, wanting her to hang out with her and she's like "im busy". even her little sister comes in while im kissing her and i stop cause Im a nice guy for the family.

Even when we'd stop, for her to get a drink or put on a different song she'd come back to the bed and it was like she wanted to get on top of me. It was like she'd start to get on top of me but then at the last moment just lay beside me.

I tried to finger her but she wouldnt let me. Im sure I could of ate her out cause I was up there, close enough. I didn't know how she'd react though, plus I never done it but Im sure I'd be good at it.

After all this kissing stuff was over she was all digging me. We went into her sisters room and she was on top of me. We still was kissing here and there. Then she was telling me she wanted me to hang out with her and her friends , all this stuff like she liked me.

It was time for me to go so I left, but before I could leave she came back out her house and told me to come here and she kissed me some more.

Like she really liked me but I think I fucked up. I always go get high and shit with my friends (who arent really my friends anyway cause I went to jail cause of them). Im thinking she thinks Im just trying to get some sex out of her but Im not. I really really liket his girl to the point I can't stop thinking of her. I see her at work all the time cause its the only way I can see her.

After the day I left her house I didn't call her for 1 month. My fuck up #1. I showed up at her work and she flipped me off. She said "fuck you". Im thinking she was pissed because I didnt call her.

After that things been steady. She now talks to me though. Takes my phone and shit, wanting to know who Im calling and stuff. Even says things like "im going to the club this weekend think you should come meet me", but Im not much of a club guy.

She always told me she didn't want a boyfriend. Even after all that went on at her house. I think I could of came real close to hooking up with her If i called her daily after that, but I didnt call. I feel bad.

I don't even know what kind of girl she is. I know she can't be a hoe, but she likes going to the club so I know she likes the attention of other guys. She said I was a 9 on a 1 to 10 (1 being the lowest and 10 being the highest, so Im thinking she thinks Im a hottie).

She obviously thinks Im a pimp or a player. The way I look or dress but Im not. Last time I had sex was like 4 months ago.

Problem is I just don't know what to do anymore. Should I try avoiding her for a while then pop up, see if she gets excited to see me? Because I be calling her phone recently and her voice mail always pick up and I leave a message but she dont call back. She rarely calls back, but she did a few days ago but even after that she hasnt been picking up her phone.

Am I the one getting played here? She told me we could be "friends or whatever"(actual quote). I know she wants more from me from the way she acts/talks around me, and the way she looks at me.

WHAT DO I FUCKING DO!!!! I've never spent this long trying to get with a girl. I dont know what I want outta this. Im thinking sooner or later we will probably make out again or eventually fuck, cause I don't think she wants me as a boyfriend. Seeing she says she doesn't want a boyfriend but had one less than 2 months ago. I know she wants me and everyone else think she does too.

Give me advice please. Sorry for the length, but i was trying to throw in every detail I could so you have a better knowledge on the whole ordeal.

[This message has been edited by OneMulatto (edited 12-08-2004).]
 #2 
Old 2004-12-08, 00:59
Hentai Hentai is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

I read through half your post but then I lost interest.

no comments.
 #3 
Old 2004-12-08, 01:37
Evil_Tree Evil_Tree is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

She doesn't want you anymore. The entire "friends or whatever" is what tipped me off. Hang out with her on occasions, but it's over. The only way to even kiss her would be booze. Find a new prospect...
 #4 
Old 2004-12-08, 03:02
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The state of Illinois.
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

Nah man. She always all over me. And even when I go to her work and just order something without talking to her she get pissed at me.

like "why didnt you come and talk to me yesterday"

more opinions please.
 #5 
Old 2004-12-08, 03:06
PrinceLoki PrinceLoki is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

*starts reading*

*grows beard*

*dies*

*finishes reading*



ANYWAYS, dont be concerned that she said she doesnt want a boyfriend, she also said she wouldnt let you kiss her. Just stop fooling around and ask her straight up: WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!? If she says something like "shut up" than dont let her change the subject. and DONT be high or watching a movie or something at the time, no distractions allowed.
 #6 
Old 2004-12-08, 04:15
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The state of Illinois.
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

Yea. Im going to be straight forward with her. If I dont like the response it is bye bye, I'll see if she comes chasing after me.
 #7 
Old 2004-12-08, 16:28
fatal hussein fatal hussein is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

at first i thought she had a boyfriend and was just stringing you along -- which could have been the case.

anyways, i stopped after the part where you said she started to talk to you again after you didnt call her.



+ what you said about her being all over you, etc...



i think she's trying to get you in check. she knows you have feelings for her and she's trying to manipulate you, trying to get you in check.

its kind of hard to say without witnessing the events first-hand though, so i could be wrong.
 #8 
Old 2004-12-08, 18:52
Stauffenberg Stauffenberg is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

This woman appears to be quite a bit of trouble, man. I wouldn't bother. Spending this much time on a girl you're not actually dating, especially one who keeps mixing the signals, is probably a bad idea.
 #9 
Old 2004-12-08, 21:59
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The state of Illinois.
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

Yea, the putting me in check part, is something I could believe. Im just going to not go around her for a few weeks, and next time I talk to her Im going to make it seem like I'm not even interested in anything, not even being friends.
 #10 
Old 2004-12-08, 22:33
Stauffenberg Stauffenberg is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

I'd avoid any further "cunning stratagems," buddy. Slice the ties. Be done. Move on. Find somebody else.
 #11 
Old 2004-12-08, 22:45
greyhat7 greyhat7 is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

if you want this girl you need to find a way to get her pregnant, sleep with her make a whole in the condom and get her fat.
 #12 
Old 2004-12-08, 23:09
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dodging the rain and tractors
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

the joke of it is that she probably talks to her g/f's for hours about how she doesn't understand what you want and how the whole situation is sooo mixed up.

you either take charge of the situation or you decide to accept her as she is (confusing would seem an apt description).
 #13 
Old 2004-12-08, 23:35
greyhat7 greyhat7 is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

quote:Originally posted by greyhat7:

if you want this girl you need to find a way to get her pregnant, sleep with her make a whole in the condom and get her fat.

correction "hole"
 #14 
Old 2004-12-08, 23:50
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

First off, quit smoking pot. That is why you were fucking up. You would have had her LONG ago if you weren't so interested in yourself and getting high. You don't really care about her. Here's how I know. If you cared, you wouldn't pass her up for a bowl. You'd be with her instead of your smoking buddies. You would go to the clubs even though you don't like them, just because you could be spending time with her.

See, you fucked up, and it's over. Why the fuck didn't you call her for A MONTH? Seriously, what the fuck? You HAD HER! It was game set match, sex on the horizon, but you blew it because you were a jerkoff.

You cannot get her anymore, because she has moved on. She only wants you now for the attention. She doesn't see you as a potential bf because you've fucked her over too many times already.

So, here's the bottom line. Get over her, and move on, you'll never have her.
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Old 2004-12-09, 03:33
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The state of Illinois.
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

It wasn't like I was choosing weed over her. She even smoked with me.

Yea I know. I probably should of went to the clubs with her.

Why didn't I call her? I don't know. One thing a hurricane hit and I didn't have a phone for a while. My cell didn't even work. Stupid mistake.

Yea, I probably could of had her, I know it even.

She told me that I play too many games myself, that I'M always bullshitting too much with her.

Going to lay off it for a while. Try to get back in in a while.

Thing is I did really care for her. Liked her a lot. Seeing her made my day. She is still on my mind.

Guess I should call it quits for now.
 #16 
Old 2004-12-09, 05:34
Stauffenberg Stauffenberg is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

quote:Originally posted by OneMulatto:



Guess I should call it quits for now.

No! Call it quits FOREVER. You are getting entirely too wrapped up in this girl. There are literally millions of others out there. I'm not calling you a pussy for sticking with one girl - shit, I drive 250 miles to see mine - but rather that you're pigeonholing yourself. Just stop. Look around you. Notice that many other girls are just as good as this other girl, if not better. Then, once you've gotten out and spread your wild oats, you will be qualified to get wrapped up in one. Not before.
 #17 
Old 2004-12-09, 08:15
StrikeCobra StrikeCobra is offline
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Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

Dude, the chick is into you mate.

Do it like this. Ask her out, if she sez no straight out, forget the bitch.

She sez yes? Score!

She sez no but like to be friends? Whatever!
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Old 2004-12-09, 21:38
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The state of Illinois.
Default Re: Mind Games (long) I need help.

Thank you for the many up front responses. I tell you thats why I love totse. It's people have no problem speaking the blunt truth or shredding ones emotions into the ground.
 
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