Do you belive that a girl could stay with the one person her whole life and only have sex with that person.

I ask because I was talking with people from work about me new GF and one of them said "IF you want to keep her let her go fuck some other guys now rather than in 12 years time"

It makes perfect sense to me..So do you think you could sleep with only the one person your whole life?

~30-06~

That only makes sense in our pathologically hedonistic society.

It used to be the norm to only be with one person, remember? You know, for centuries and centuries.

So I guess if you think she's only out for herself in this nihilistic society then yes it makes perfect sense to let her got get her fuck on now so she doesn't break your heart and your wallet later on.

But it also makes no sense because why would you want somebody like that for the rest of your life anyway?

Depends on how well I like her outside of the bedroom.

I like my wife all the time, so I think it's quite possible that we'll be able to do it.

Our body remembers our partners oh so well. Whether good or bad...especially the good.

Well, maybe only if stone-cold-sober.

But I remember a man...one man...oh so well...

And my body will never forget him even though he is not a part of my life anymore. I miss his smell, his touch, his face...I miss everything about him...

No, IMO...it is not a good idea...

But that's just me...

no, i dont think a woman can be faithfull for the rest of her life. or should i say, thats a rarity.

kissing and groping are almost a for sure at some point. sex not far behind.

trust me, ive fucked around with enough married women to know. after awhile, its not love or passion or anything thats holding a couple together. its fear and uncertainty. familiarity. maybe being able to live a certain lifestyle.

the truth of it is, and its not a pleasent one, is that maybe 2% of us find that perfect love. the majority will never even know how it feels. and a few of us will ave it for awhile, but it just wont work out.

its not a nihilistic society that has brought this infidelity to surface. its human nature. greed. expectation. and too many choices.

i think, that with the balls out atmosphere we have, we are truly seeing each other for what we are. and thats lacking in almost every way.

in a world so completly decayed, it brings even the best ppl down too. and as a whole we all spiral. there arent any handholds to grab onto. no way to stop it, and its only picking up speed.

in many ways, were seeing the end of an era. forget what you think you know, cause the rules are gone now.

quote:But I remember a man...one man...oh so well...

And my body will never forget him even though he is not a part of my life anymore. I miss his smell, his touch, his face...I miss everything about him...

what a 'memorial'! could any man want to be remembered for more?

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

Depends on how well I like her outside of the bedroom.

I like my broad all the time, so I think it's quite possible that we'll be able to do it.

There.. fixed!

quote:Originally posted by Nihilism:



in many ways, were seeing the end of an era. forget what you think you know, cause the rules are gone now.

Unless there's a backlash by the younger generation, which I think is in it's beginning stages with people like the sXe kids.

This is a great topic! This exact thought is often on the tip of my tongue(well tip of my brain). Using myself as an example, I've been with my girl for six months. We've both messed around with others, but only had sex with each other. We're so good together and have after only six months developed the ability to basically read each others mind.

If I said to her look we're gunna be together for ages, you need to try other guys and she did, I wouldn't be able to take her back after it. I just couldn't handle it (yes, im the jealous type). There's just no way I could take it.

It seams silly to me too, because how do you know that 2 years down the track, one of you won't change your mind and break it off anyway? Just because things may seem perfect today, doesn't mean they will be tommorow.

If your girl is really meant for you, she wouldn't want to fuck anyone else. If my girl told me to fuck someone else, I would be insulted.

I think it's a bad idea, unless you were already open to that kind of thing from the begining.

My 2 cents.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

Unless there's a backlash by the younger generation, which I think is in it's beginning stages with people like the sXe kids.

im 22. trust me, there is no such movement.

quote:Originally posted by Nihilism:

its not a nihilistic society that has brought this infidelity to surface. its human nature. greed. expectation. and too many choices.

i think, that with the balls out atmosphere we have, we are truly seeing each other for what we are. and thats lacking in almost every way.

in a world so completly decayed, it brings even the best ppl down too. and as a whole we all spiral. there arent any handholds to grab onto. no way to stop it, and its only picking up speed.

in many ways, were seeing the end of an era. forget what you think you know, cause the rules are gone now.

You would not believe how closely this resembled my thinking a few years back. There are people out there who don't subscribe to the hedonistic 'me' philosophy growing and growing. There are people who are awake to their freedom, condemned to be free, in this age of decadence who don't figure "fuck it, I'll just do everybody dirty since everybody's doing me dirty."

Nietszche (who I'm assuming you've read so I might just be making an ass of myself) himself didn't subscribe to the nihilistic philosophy. In his personal life he was actually described as almost femininely polite and soft spoken. Even in his philosophy, though, it's a positive message it just might not seem like it because of his contempt for the common man. The herd. He had just as much contempt for the nobles crushing the slaves, as he had for those of the herd trapped under slave morality.

It's about creating your own purpose and taking responsability for your meaning. Sure it's all about action, but action with purpose. Strive to be the ubermensch. Which takes form as well as passion.

I'm not saying some "forgive them for they know not what they do" kinda of lecture, I'm saying FUCK 'EM. These people are either ignorantly staying in line of extremely life negating morals, or they'r mindlessly engorging themselves with no purpose. If you have such contempt for the average man, and human nature in general, don't go down to their level of pointless debauchary. Fucking ignore them and create your own meaning, with your own path. Or (since I know your nihilistic nature) manipulate them, they don't have their own ideals.

If you hate infidelity as you do, which is becoming apparent, then don't submit yourself to commiting the same act. Obey yourself or learn to be commanded by others. Just because everybody else doesn't have their own values coming from their own thinking doesn't mean you don't have to.

*ending stoned rant*

quote:Originally posted by Nihilism:

im 22. trust me, there is no such movement.

I'm 18. Trust me, there is, and it's passed you by.

If you're lucky, then this will happen for you. However, today's society is fucked up and women seem to think less of fidelity. I'm not saying that men don't cheat, I just know that i don't.

There are probably people who start out this way, but get fucked around along the way, just like nice guys. Nice guys start out nice, but get fucked around by bitchy women and turn into bitter bastards.

that said, don't get your hopes up, expect the worst but enjoy the best.

quote:Originally posted by I_Like_Traffic_Lights:

It's about creating your own purpose and taking responsability for your meaning. Sure it's all about action, but action with purpose. Strive to be the ubermensch. Which takes form as well as passion.

Obey yourself or learn to be commanded by others. Just because everybody else doesn't have their own values coming from their own thinking doesn't mean you don't have to.

*ending stoned rant*



Absolutely beautiful Traffic...and you're stoned even...

I think I could really stand getting stoned, it's been probably 15 years since I did that. Too bad so many companies do drug testing now.



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quote:Originally posted by 30-06:

Do you belive that a girl could stay with the one person her whole life and only have sex with that person.



Probably not "a girl" since that implies someone on the young side. I couldn't have said I could with any certainty until recent years.

People who try to settle down into commitment before age 30 are probably fighting an uphill battle. A person needs to explore all s/he can while young and still figuring the world out.

Once a person passes 30, and certainly 35, things change. Oh sure, old people always told me this, like I'm telling y'all, but I didn't believe it, probably like y'all. Trust me, you can't predict what you're going to think in 10, 15, 20 years. Priorities change, and the advantages of monogamous partnerships becomes obvious.

quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:

I'm 18. Trust me, there is, and it's passed you by.

yeah, well im 15! but the sXe kids piss me off. its one thing to try it then say no. but to pass bad judgement on something only because of the media is just idiotic.

but going with many people is just making you a whore. no im not saying become a prude and never do anything with yourself, but you shouldnt try to get wiht a bunch of guys to be able to "live"

quote:Originally posted by 30-06:

Do you belive that a girl could stay with the one person her whole life and only have sex with that person.

I ask because I was talking with people from work about me new GF and one of them said "IF you want to keep her let her go fuck some other guys now rather than in 12 years time"

It makes perfect sense to me..So do you think you could sleep with only the one person your whole life?

~30-06~

Fuck your coworkers. They are just looking to bag your GF.

There's more to life than just sex. Find someone that shares the same opinions as you do.

I had enough sexual partners and enough sexual experiances early during the ages of 17-21. Even during that time I was still able to commit to one person (however during those years I only had one or two closed relationships which lasted less than a year).

Giving your girl permission to fuck around isn't what I call a healthy relationship. Espically if you have long term plans.

no, I had trouble being with my ex gf for over one year. I got tired of fucking the same person. So i NEED to be sleeping around with others

quote:Originally posted by I_Like_Traffic_Lights:

That only makes sense in our pathologically hedonistic society.

It used to be the norm to only be with one person, remember? You know, for centuries and centuries.

So I guess if you think she's only out for herself in this nihilistic society then yes it makes perfect sense to let her got get her fuck on now so she doesn't break your heart and your wallet later on.

But it also makes no sense because why would you want somebody like that for the rest of your life anyway?

I sort of agree with the second part, but for centuries and centuries we were also killing each other and not bathing daily.

quote:Originally posted by DeadlyAssassin:

yeah, well im 15! but the sXe kids piss me off. its one thing to try it then say no. but to pass bad judgement on something only because of the media is just idiotic.

I'm of the former. I've been there, I've done the drugs, and now I choose to avoid it.

However, it doesn't take a media brainwashing to realize that drug abuse is a bad idea. One need only look around at all the people in your life whose lives have gone to shit, whose whole existences have been taken over by drugs.

won't you feel cheated if your gf has sex with other guys? i mean they are your girl damn it.you let other guys touch her crotch and insert their dirty dicks into her vagina which supposedly only meant for u?

i wouldn't do that. if my gf has sex with other guys, this relationship is over

Depenss if she wants to be in LOVE with one guy forever or wants to sample some others, and if you yourself can handle being with one chick.

I see where you're coming from, thinking about letting your GF have the opportunity to experiment, but it rings alarm bells. It's like saying "Sure, cheat on me." and sharing your partner! I'd find that too fucking weird, personally!

Two possible (of many) outcomes:

1) She gets pregnant by some other dude who you *allowed* her to fuck around with.

2) You get an early christmas present, a sexually transmitted disease or two.