I got to talking with my aunt about fucked up things my stepfather's done, and it led to me revealing something I'd never thought much of. When I was 11, my whole family went down to Virginia Beach to go camping, there were like 12 people there sharing a big tent (it was a 2 room tent). Consequently, I ended up sharing a spot with someone; I slept on an air mattress with my stepfather. The second night we were down there, I woke up to a hand in my pants furiously masturbating me. I didn't know what to do, I tried to stop him and eventually he stopped and then a few minutes later, he told me to take a walk with him. We sat down at some benches and he said to me "was I playing with you?" and I nodded. He told me he had been dreaming, and thought it was my mother, and went on a long explanation of how it was him mistaking my cock for my mothers pussy while he was asleep. He told me not to say anything to her, because it would upset her, and I didn't want to upset her. So I didn't think much of it, and I didn't worry about it.

Then our conversation turned to some things he's done to my aunt, things I won't say here. Then it clicked in my head: I had been the object of sexual gratification for my father. I remembered when I was 12 or 13, living at the trailer, he felt it was appropriate to purchase me a membership to a porn AVS (adult verification service). I think the AVS was called Sexkey. He told me that I could use it as much as I wanted, but to tell him when I had used it so he could go through and clear out the history and whatnot. I guess he thought I was too dumb to do it myself. Then a few months later, he decided it was time I learn how to masturbate. He took me into my room, pulled out a Playboy, gave me some lotion, and had me do it in front of him. He asked me if I felt uncomfortable, but I said I didn't, because I thought it was just something dads do with their sons, imparting their knowledge unto them.

He also taught me to anally stimulate myself, by telling me about how it felt and that it could be very pleasurable, so a few weeks after that he got out some lube and put it on my left middle finger and told me to lay down and masturbate while I put the finger into my anus and applied pressure. I did, and he took my hand by the wrist and positioned it for me. All the while I was ignorantly and naively going along with it, not realizing that he was getting sexual gratification from it. After I'd learned that technique, he pulled his out and we masturbated while in the same room as eachother, I have no idea what his bullshit excuse was for that, I can't belive I was so stupid. He orgasmed with me in the room, while thinking of me. I'm so disgusted. I can't believe I was so stupid. Talking to my aunt was so liberating, and she helped me realize and is helping me deal with it, because she got it worse from him than I did, and nobody belived her.

I have to tell my mother, but I have no idea how to bring this up. I'm living in Virginia while they're still in Germany, and my mother is trying to come in August for when I go to college. If she does, I'm going to tell her then, otherwise I won't see her until December, at Christmas. I don't want to bring it up around then, but I can't talk about it on the phone. I'm so lost, so confused.

I'm also incredibly worried about my little sister. I'll kill him if he touches her. I'll tear him limb from paedophilic limb.

I'm sorry for this, if this is the wrong place, then delete it, I just needed to get that out.

Jesus Christ, I'm so sorry. That bastard deserves to have his balls melted off and shoved down his throat.

Hey, man. Dont stand for that shit. Its your responsibility to talk to your mother about it as soon as possible (even on the phone), if not for you and your aunt, but by far, for your little sister. Think about it: you know hes done this sort of thing to you and your aunt, it makes sense that your sister is in danger of the same thing. For the sake of everyone around him, talk to your mother about it as soon as you possibly can. Think, if you waited another month or two, and in that time he started doing things to your sister, how would you feel, knowing you could have stopped that from happening? On a lighter note, if your sister is actually safe already, blackmail the fuck out of him.

You didn't realize that was abnormal? And you only just noticed it, after being on this forum for so long?

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

if you're trying to say that what his step father did was only wrong becasue society says so, you're one sick fuck. did you READ his post?

quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

Fuck you. I didn't realize that it wasn't right, and it wasn't. Perhaps you were molested as well and you don't find a problem with it. Perhaps you still fantasize about it. I don't.

quote:Originally posted by Shodan's Own:

Hey, man. Dont stand for that shit. Its your responsibility to talk to your mother about it as soon as possible (even on the phone), if not for you and your aunt, but by far, for your little sister. Think about it: you know hes done this sort of thing to you and your aunt, it makes sense that your sister is in danger of the same thing. For the sake of everyone around him, talk to your mother about it as soon as you possibly can. Think, if you waited another month or two, and in that time he started doing things to your sister, how would you feel, knowing you could have stopped that from happening? On a lighter note, if your sister is actually safe already, blackmail the fuck out of him.

I'm not worried, my sister is in the US for the summer with me. It happened several years ago, I just never even realized it was wrong until today. I'm going to tell my mother before my sister is ever alone with him again.

It's a shame, but don't let it get to you. I was abused too but I don't let it get in the way of things.

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

I'm going to tell my mother before my sister is ever alone with him again.

very good to hear.

It never really bothered me, but my how stupid and blind I was bothers me.

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

It never really bothered me, but my how stupid and blind I was bothers me.

Yeah, I didn't realize it until I was older either. Doesn't mean you were stupid though, we were all innocent and naive as children.

Thanks for the sympathy.

ROFL. This was a good post.

Er...whatever.

quote:Originally posted by Saline Colors:

Jesus Christ, I'm so sorry. That bastard deserves to have his balls melted off and shoved down his throat.

Alot of kids dont realize that things like that are wrong until later. It may show up as an uncomfortable feeling, But I think the mind protects kids from trauma like that by keeping them in the dark. Im sorry about what happened. You'll probably realize from here on out, that this has affected more relationships in your life then your admiting to yourself now. And Avril Lavigne, Most humans are born with an inate sense of right and wrong. Its only things that happen in our lives that skew that.

Damn...you should be a therapist. I despise him. So much. He's fucked me up in more ways than that.

That's terrible. I hope you find closure.

I will. When he dies.

Dude I really really sorry cause thats really really messed up.

No really I feel bad for you but I TOLD you

thats why your an ass muncher.

quote:Originally posted by Scareface:

Dude I really really sorry cause thats really really messed up.

No really I feel bad for you but I TOLD you

thats why your an ass muncher.

Umm...when did you tell me that?

Check the eat ass thread a while back. But no worries man. I really do feel bad for you its just that I got really excited about this thread and felt that I should post. My bad just forget about it. Iam sorry its just that this thread explains alot. But again Iam sorry about what happened to you its preaty messed up I have no idea how you deal with it I couldnt I would just end me life. But dont do that either.

Umm...bueno.

Don't kill him, castrate him. Courts are sympathetic to children who do that shit to people who have sexually abused him. Worst they are likely to do is give you probation.

How long ago was that? if it was less than five years, you can prosecute him in court. i'd recommmend it, because his name will get on the list of sex offenders - and he won't be working with children. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but i think its important - just as important as you keeping your sister away from him. It would be easy for him to get a job that deals with children, and do it to another kid.

quote:Originally posted by Chibi Shinigami:

How long ago was that? if it was less than five years, you can prosecute him in court. i'd recommmend it, because his name will get on the list of sex offenders - and he won't be working with children. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but i think its important - just as important as you keeping your sister away from him. It would be easy for him to get a job that deals with children, and do it to another kid.

Why is it limited to 5 years? That seems... messed up to me.

It's the law, i believe. At least here, anyway. If its after five years, you can't prosecute.

But it might be different where you live, check the laws.

Fuck the legal system, one word: CASTRATION

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

I got to talking with my aunt about fucked up things my stepfather's done, and it led to me revealing something I'd never thought much of. When I was 11, my whole family went down to Virginia Beach to go camping, there were like 12 people there sharing a big tent (it was a 2 room tent). Consequently, I ended up sharing a spot with someone; I slept on an air mattress with my stepfather. The second night we were down there, I woke up to a hand in my pants furiously masturbating me. I didn't know what to do, I tried to stop him and eventually he stopped and then a few minutes later, he told me to take a walk with him. We sat down at some benches and he said to me "was I playing with you?" and I nodded. He told me he had been dreaming, and thought it was my mother, and went on a long explanation of how it was him mistaking my cock for my mothers pussy while he was asleep. He told me not to say anything to her, because it would upset her, and I didn't want to upset her. So I didn't think much of it, and I didn't worry about it.

Then our conversation turned to some things he's done to my aunt, things I won't say here. Then it clicked in my head: I had been the object of sexual gratification for my father. I remembered when I was 12 or 13, living at the trailer, he felt it was appropriate to purchase me a membership to a porn AVS (adult verification service). I think the AVS was called Sexkey. He told me that I could use it as much as I wanted, but to tell him when I had used it so he could go through and clear out the history and whatnot. I guess he thought I was too dumb to do it myself. Then a few months later, he decided it was time I learn how to masturbate. He took me into my room, pulled out a Playboy, gave me some lotion, and had me do it in front of him. He asked me if I felt uncomfortable, but I said I didn't, because I thought it was just something dads do with their sons, imparting their knowledge unto them.

He also taught me to anally stimulate myself, by telling me about how it felt and that it could be very pleasurable, so a few weeks after that he got out some lube and put it on my left middle finger and told me to lay down and masturbate while I put the finger into my anus and applied pressure. I did, and he took my hand by the wrist and positioned it for me. All the while I was ignorantly and naively going along with it, not realizing that he was getting sexual gratification from it. After I'd learned that technique, he pulled his out and we masturbated while in the same room as eachother, I have no idea what his bullshit excuse was for that, I can't belive I was so stupid. He orgasmed with me in the room, while thinking of me. I'm so disgusted. I can't believe I was so stupid. Talking to my aunt was so liberating, and she helped me realize and is helping me deal with it, because she got it worse from him than I did, and nobody belived her.

I have to tell my mother, but I have no idea how to bring this up. I'm living in Virginia while they're still in Germany, and my mother is trying to come in August for when I go to college. If she does, I'm going to tell her then, otherwise I won't see her until December, at Christmas. I don't want to bring it up around then, but I can't talk about it on the phone. I'm so lost, so confused.

I'm also incredibly worried about my little sister. I'll kill him if he touches her. I'll tear him limb from paedophilic limb.

I'm sorry for this, if this is the wrong place, then delete it, I just needed to get that out.



Holy shit, im sorry about that. You shouldnt wait for your parents to come home, call the cops IMMEDIATELY. Also, try to speak to a lawyer (regerdless of age, i THINK nearly everyone is entitled to bring up a case with a lawyer.)

quote:Originally posted by Chibi Shinigami:

How long ago was that? if it was less than five years, you can prosecute him in court. i'd recommmend it, because his name will get on the list of sex offenders - and he won't be working with children. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but i think its important - just as important as you keeping your sister away from him. It would be easy for him to get a job that deals with children, and do it to another kid.

Uh I believe it's 7 years.

If I call the cops, they won't be able to do much, he's in Germany, and I don't want to cause a giant uproar with everything, I want to tell my mother when she gets here, discreetly, so she can do what needs to be done. He's going to get what's coming to him, don't worry.

And no, you're only guaranteed a lawyer if A) you're the defendant and B) it's a criminal case, not civil.

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Man, that sucks. He's a sick pervert, and should have his balls put through a meat grinder.

The people who said that you should have known it was wrong can go fuck themselves, because they don't know what they're talking about. When someone is close to you like that, you trust them. When they tell you it's ok, and fathers do this with their sons and daughters, you believe them.

The guy that molested me moved to South Africa. He's a doctor now, and his family (his little sister was my best friend in kindergarten) refuses to have contact with us. Hope things work out... karma is going to wreak some serious havoc on your stepdad's amoral ass.

Which is exactly what I'm counting on.

quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

Avril has a point. If you orgasmed then you obviously weren't too uncomfortable with it; you don't "just find out" you were sexually abused. You "got the idea" that that is sexual abuse.

Did I say I orgasmed?

quote:Originally posted by deptstoremook:

Avril has a point. If you orgasmed then you obviously weren't too uncomfortable with it; you don't "just find out" you were sexually abused. You "got the idea" that that is sexual abuse.

Actually, it is very possible that he could have "found out" he was sexually abused. When a memory is too disturbing to think about, your brain may repress it until you're able to deal with it. That was the case with me.

If you read my other post..

If someone close to you, like your father, were to tell you that the sexual acts he made you do were completely normal- even if they made you feel uncomfortable- you would believe him. If you had no idea what sexual abuse was, couldn't you find out it was sexual abuse?

Either way, it's still wrong. It doesn't matter whether he enjoyed it or not..he obviously has issues abot it now, so it did some damage. You dig?

I'm really glad I'm coming to grips with this now, instead of 15 years from now when I'm married with kids. That would ruin me.

Restrain him and tattoo "I like to touch little kids" across his forehead. Then let him go. See how he does when his (hopefully) darkest secret is out for everyone to see.

Like in the Scarlet Letter.

I found out that he has had several affairs during his marriage to my mother. One with a woman (that my mom knows about, but she's in denial of because he denied it to her) and one with a guy, that she doesn't know about.

dont tell your mom, instead lure the pervert into a room, and when he whips it out, cut it off!!

le sigh

He never tried to do anything to me, just had me do things. The fact that I went along with it is fucked up enough, and I need to come to grips with that.

quote:Originally posted by start_today:

It's a shame, but don't let it get to you. I was abused too but I don't let it get in the way of things.

I agree, i wouldn't let it get you down. i was abused too and i didnt think much of it at the time either but then i learned it was wrong but i still didnt let it get the best of me.

*- csc -*

I'm doing alright, I guess, but...it's just...a lot to deal with so suddenly.

My evil half says: HAHA ---> Infinity.

My good half says: Forgive, as you require forgiveness.

My evil half says to kill him. Take a plane to Germany right now and kill him.

My not so evil half says that I've got to do all I can to make sure he doesn't do it again.

Best of luck to you with everything, hope it all works out.

Thank you all for being so understanding. I'm going to go to bed, I've got a lot on my mind.

This is some fucked-up, repugnant shit.

Indeed, I suggest you go and break his face with a crowbar. You will feel vindicated. And I don't mean to be callous, either: There's nothing I can say to you that can make it right, but I do suggest you stop beating yourself up over your own naivety (I think it's "naivete", actually). It wasn't your fault at all: He was the one who rationalized and explained it for you, and made it seem right, and you trusted him as your surrogate father, and as such, you trusted that what he was doing was right. He abused that trust, and it was a fucking sick thing to do. You're not at fault here, friend.

I still suggest you go and beat the shit out of him. I've done it to one person from my past who had wronged me (granted, not in a sexually-abusive way; it's a long story), and it did make me feel better. Two wrongs, or two rights, or any conbination thereof, won't change what happened, but the sense of vindication might help you.

Do take me with a grain of salt, though: I'm a very fucked-up and unusual person inside. I don't have all the answers, and things that have worked for me might be detrimental to you. It's up to you, in the end.

And for what it's worth, you know you have my sympathies.

-Infrared

I don't think violence is the answer here. I think your plan of telling your mom sounds great and if you could get him to go to therapy, that would be cool too.

And all this time I thought you were a tightass...

quote:Originally posted by Green Lantern:

I don't think violence is the answer here. I think your plan of telling your mom sounds great and if you could get him to go to therapy, that would be cool too.

Obviously you dont know what the fuck your talking about. As someone who has been in a similar situation I say kill the bastard. But thats just me.

EDIT: fuck therepy. it doesnt help anyone. its all a bunch of fucking bullshit!

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stab him.repeatedly.sorry to hear that shit man.chin up,always.

Does it bother anyone else when people say they are sorry when the obviously had no controll over it? I dunno it just really pisses me off.

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quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

No, it was sexual abuse. A child isn't able to give there consent to sexual conduct because they don't know what sex really is.

quote:Originally posted by smellyneohippy:

Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

how exactly did he harm you?

you saw no problem with what happened until you learn of society's perception of the acts.

you need society to tell you what's right and what's wrong?! you need society to tell you what's abuse???

No, it was sexual abuse. A child isn't able to give there consent to sexual conduct because they don't know what sex really is.

too bad there wasn't any sex

I'm not going to touch him, I'm going to ruin his life. When my mother finds out, she'll kick him out. She supports the family with her GS12 job, he makes maybe 25K a year. He'll lose even that when they get a divorce, because he has that job in Germany because my mother is stationed there. He'll be disowned by his own mother, and everything he loves will be taken away from him.

That's much more satisfying.

quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

too bad there wasn't any sex

That's retarded, and you know it.

Troll.

quote:Originally posted by Avril Lavigne:

too bad there wasn't any sex

Too bad it was still sexual, cunt.

Run away with your little sister. Disappear. Leave a note telling why, and that you'll contact her when it's safe (your S-dad is gone).

quote:Originally posted by Lazzaro:

Run away with your little sister. Disappear. Leave a note telling why, and that you'll contact her when it's safe (your S-dad is gone).

I'm already gone, if you'd read. She's going to be fine, he won't see her until I've talked to my mother.

too bad there wasn't any sex????

Avril Lavigne that is about the same as me saying too bad you havent been gang raped and sodomized by a bunch of fucking transients

Your stepdad sounds like a cool guy D Krunk.

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

I'm already gone, if you'd read. She's going to be fine, he won't see her until I've talked to my mother.

If I were you I wouldnt ever let him get near her.

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

I'm not going to touch him, I'm going to ruin his life. When my mother finds out, she'll kick him out. She supports the family with her GS12 job, he makes maybe 25K a year. He'll lose even that when they get a divorce, because he has that job in Germany because my mother is stationed there. He'll be disowned by his own mother, and everything he loves will be taken away from him.

That's much more satisfying.

I like your style, my friend. I like your style.

My vindictive and evil side is smiling. My good side is kinda turning a blind eye. I won't lie to you; you're just in your actions. Good luck, bud, and I do hope it brings you some peace inside. Don't ever lose your head and go too far, though. It's easy to do.

quote:Originally posted by Bleedthrough:

I like your style, my friend. I like your style.

My vindictive and evil side is smiling. My good side is kinda turning a blind eye. I won't lie to you; you're just in your actions. Good luck, bud, and I do hope it brings you some peace inside. Don't ever lose your head and go too far, though. It's easy to do.

I know, believe me. I've ruined somebody's life by alerting her parents to sexual deviance, drug use, and alcoholism. Her parents gave her up to the state. I wish I'd been more compassionate on that one, even though she did hurt me.

quote:Originally posted by D Krunk:

I know, believe me. I've ruined somebody's life by alerting her parents to sexual deviance, drug use, and alcoholism. Her parents gave her up to the state. I wish I'd been more compassionate on that one, even though she did hurt me.

OK, now what is the story behind that one?

That sounds pretty messed up to me.

It's a pretty long story, to shorten it here goes:

She cheated on me

Lied for a month about it

Broke up with me because she cheated on me

Alienated me from my friends because of it

So I published and distributed a picture she took of herself in a softcore bondage type position, complete with her name and phone number. Then I told her mother how she got drunk all the time and had an oxycontin addiction, which she did/does. They are terrible parents who don't know how to deal with things, so she's in state custody for a year until she turns 18. I guess it helped her a little bit, but I feel crappy about it.

quote:Originally posted by KnowingYouNow:

...Most humans are born with an inate sense of right and wrong.

You are so quaintly naive. Your ideas belong in a museum.



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hey man thats fucked up. sorry you had to go through that. try not to let it scar you.

To all the Avril losers out there:

the hardest part is realising/remembering what happened, and not thinking that somehow you wanted it or were responsible for his actions.

Children DON'T know it's not right, they DON'T know what innocence is until they've lost it or had it taken away.

Signing a child up to a porn site and encouraging it's use IS sexual abuse, it's gross misconduct and lewd behaviour all wrapped in one sick package, never mind all the rest. Child abusers can be pretty clever on how to lure kids in, making it all look like a right of passage.

Avril why the fuck would you get semantic (google it) unless you either had completely no concept, or you are jealous of the attention?

It's one thing to fuck with an adult-

But children are SO vulnerable, and it's SO easy to mess with their heads and steal their innocence.

Krunk, never forget that it was ALL him and not at all your fault. Your aunt was presumably a grown adult and probably should not have let things get out of hand, but who knows how much of a monster this guy was?

When you tell your mom, you have to be prepared for a whole host of different reactions, i'm sorry to say.

Ideally it would be "oh! my poor son! what did that beast DO to you??!"

but she may feel guilt that this happened right under her nose (by a man of her choosing) and may feel more comfortable denying it, especially if she has denied unpleasant stuff in the past. So it may be more like, "why are you trying to split us up now, after all we did for you?!" or some other bullshit.

If she does go into denial, she may eventually allow the light of truth in, or she may never be able to deal with it.

quote:Originally posted by Tabiba:

Your aunt was presumably a grown adult and probably should not have let things get out of hand

Nah, she was in elementary school when it happened. My sister's age.

You live in VA beach? I do, too.

Nah, I live in Prince William County, but we used to go down there every summer.

ah~ to bad ;p

fuck him. fucking fuck him over. do you have a birthday coming up? if you do, invite him over a few days early... then you and some mates hold him down, tatoo 'i cheated on my wife and touched children' on his forehead, and kerb him ( open his mouth and put it on the edge of a kerb, like he is biting the kerb, then stamp on the back of his head until all his teeth have fallen out). then slice open the fron of his ball sack and put a scalpel blade inside it and some vinegar, before sewing it up. not only will he have no teefs and a big fuck off tatoo on his head, he wont be able to ride a bike, sit down properly, sleep prorperly, masturbate, or many other things, due to having a sharp as fuck scalpel blade between his legs slicing open his testicles.

Revenge By Tad*

by the way- my dad used to beat me up until i moved...so on my last day at his house i kicked him hard in the balls and poked him in the eye