OK then let?s start with a little bit of a background. Skip it if you don?t care.

I am 18 and a virgin. I have been out with a few girls but never got past making out. I lack confidence with girls due to lack of experience and a few bad experiences in the past. On Saturday I am going away and won?t be back for 2 months.

Girl in question is just under half a year younger than me. I don?t know whether she is a virgin or not.

Me and this girl started going out about a month ago. I enjoy spending time with her and she is pretty attractive. We saw each other a fair bit and generally spent the time just cuddling on the sofa and my bed but we have never got past making out.

Everything was going alright but last week we she was kissing one of my friends. We had a bit of an awkward week and she said that she wasn?t good at commitment and would rather just have a bit of fun which was alright with me as I was going away in a weeks time.

Since then she has been round a few times we just did what we did before and sat in my room cuddling.

So now it comes to today. I am going away on Saturday and seeing her tomorrow. And like any red blooded male who is confronted with an attractive girl I would like to try and get some sex out of this. So I would need to know what I could do to maximise my chances.

Firstly there is the question of alcohol. Should we both stay sober, should I get a few drinks in her, should I take a double of whiskey before she comes, should we both have a few drinks. I don?t mean to get her drunk and take advantage of her, just maybe a few drinks to loosen her up and too boost my confidence.

I am not really sure what is the best way to go about it so that I have the best chance if she is interested and don?t look like a fool if she isn?t. Would I be best just to ask her directly or, should I just start kissing her and then move from there, should I move the conversation onto sex then move from there (if so what topics would be best) or should I try to be a bit more romantic (set the mood with candles or whatever ? I am not sure about this seeing as we are not technically going out any more) or should I try something else like offereing to give her a massage?

It isn't that all I care about with this girl is sex, I do like this girl and I would just like to have a chance to do this before I leave and will most likely not get the chance to do it with her again.

Sorry about the long post.



[This message has been edited by Erotic Nightmares (edited 07-08-2004).]

Ok... I'm 13, so you might not want to listen to me... I'll post anyway...

So, she'll go to your house Friday... She comes in, you have a song playing (any... no need for it to be barry white or anything of the sort.. just music...) you 2 cuddle in the couch with some wine, talk a bit and make out...(you might want to read a couple of foreplay sites/threads/ archives)... do your foreplay, and have sex...

Tips:

- Be slow... bit by bit...Inch by inch... you need to get her aroused before trying anything.

- Dont be nervous... that is the worst you can do... just relax... think it's her that has to please you, not you that has to please her... Calm down...

- Be sure to make her as confortable as possible... If she does anything that suggests she is feeling unconfortable, pull back...

www.becomeaplayer.com (http://www.becomeaplayer.com) might help...

Just my two cents...

You are the biggest fucking pussy ever. You've beeing going out with this girl for a month and haven't even gone past making out and she's already talked you into letting her fuck around with other guys. You do not deserve your balls.

As for the sex, your girl is a hoe, so just go for it.

To be honest Little Pea, I don't really care whether you think I am a pussy or not. I am just interested to know what approach will get me the best results. If you are going to be a cunt about it you might as well just fuck off. No offence meant.

hey, basically dazzle was right. But, since you are actually GOING OUT WITH this girl, you care for her, etc...it might also help both of your confidence quotients if you talk about it a little bit first. Nothing too blatant, just....discuss the idea to assure complience, then you dont have to worry about what you do later. If nothing else, then she has only herself to blame if it goes wrong...

quote:Originally posted by Erotic Nightmares:

OK then let?s start with a little bit of a background. Skip it if you don?t care.

I am 18 and a virgin. I have been out with a few girls but never got past making out. I lack confidence with girls due to lack of experience and a few bad experiences in the past. On Saturday I am going away and won?t be back for 2 months.

Girl in question is just under half a year younger than me. I don?t know whether she is a virgin or not.

Me and this girl started going out about a month ago. I enjoy spending time with her and she is pretty attractive. We saw each other a fair bit and generally spent the time just cuddling on the sofa and my bed but we have never got past making out.

Everything was going alright but last week we she was kissing one of my friends. We had a bit of an awkward week and she said that she wasn?t good at commitment and would rather just have a bit of fun which was alright with me as I was going away in a weeks time.

Since then she has been round a few times we just did what we did before and sat in my room cuddling.

So now it comes to today. I am going away on Saturday and seeing her tomorrow. And like any red blooded male who is confronted with an attractive girl I would like to try and get some sex out of this. So I would need to know what I could do to maximise my chances.

Firstly there is the question of alcohol. Should we both stay sober, should I get a few drinks in her, should I take a double of whiskey before she comes, should we both have a few drinks. I don?t mean to get her drunk and take advantage of her, just maybe a few drinks to loosen her up and too boost my confidence.

I am not really sure what is the best way to go about it so that I have the best chance if she is interested and don?t look like a fool if she isn?t. Would I be best just to ask her directly or, should I just start kissing her and then move from there, should I move the conversation onto sex then move from there (if so what topics would be best) or should I try to be a bit more romantic (set the mood with candles or whatever ? I am not sure about this seeing as we are not technically going out any more) or should I try something else like offereing to give her a massage?

It isn't that all I care about with this girl is sex, I do like this girl and I would just like to have a chance to do this before I leave and will most likely not get the chance to do it with her again.

Sorry about the long post.



[This message has been edited by Erotic Nightmares (edited 07-08-2004).]

Well in my opinion, I'd say one of the reasons you don't have alot of progress with women is you seem like a bit of a pushover. I personally would never stand for some girl to go around making out with other guys. If a girl can't stay committed, what makes you think she'll change? It's foolish to continue anything with her, as it'll only hurt more when it falls apart. But then again I'm a zero tolerance kind of guy.

So really, you can't do much here except learn from personal experience. I can't stress the severity of any of my points, because you can't relate to the hurt you could be in for. So if you want to learn for future experiences, then see where it goes, but if you want to stay safe and avoid some hurt, then ditch her now.

Best of luck whatever you do.

Wha?t th?e hel?l is wit?h thes?e questio?n mark?s yo?u wer?e puttin?g i?n????

Anyway, Make out, lots. Slowly do more and more. While your making out start rubbing her back, then her sides, and just run your hands over her. After a lot of that try rubbing her leg and up her thigh and ass. (not litterally UP her ass) Then the inside of her thigh, then right up her thighs. Then rub her pussy through the pants. Keep making out, and if she hasnt objected to any of this as you guys are making out start to open her pants. This is the big test, if she stops you, no chance of fucking unless you pressure her and you wouldnt do that because its slak and you sound like a pussy anyway. If she doesnt stop you, your in!! The more you make out at the start, the better you chances are for being let in.

BE SLOW!!!!!!

Good Luck buddy, and don't get too attatched to her if shes getting with other guys.

Hope this helps.

quote:Originally posted by Erotic Nightmares:

OK then let?s start with a little bit of a background. Skip it if you don?t care.

I am 18 and a virgin. I have been out with a few girls but never got past making out. I lack confidence with girls due to lack of experience and a few bad experiences in the past. On Saturday I am going away and won?t be back for 2 months.

Girl in question is just under half a year younger than me. I don?t know whether she is a virgin or not.

Me and this girl started going out about a month ago. I enjoy spending time with her and she is pretty attractive. We saw each other a fair bit and generally spent the time just cuddling on the sofa and my bed but we have never got past making out.

Everything was going alright but last week we she was kissing one of my friends. We had a bit of an awkward week and she said that she wasn?t good at commitment and would rather just have a bit of fun which was alright with me as I was going away in a weeks time.

Since then she has been round a few times we just did what we did before and sat in my room cuddling.

So now it comes to today. I am going away on Saturday and seeing her tomorrow. And like any red blooded male who is confronted with an attractive girl I would like to try and get some sex out of this. So I would need to know what I could do to maximise my chances.

Firstly there is the question of alcohol. Should we both stay sober, should I get a few drinks in her, should I take a double of whiskey before she comes, should we both have a few drinks. I don?t mean to get her drunk and take advantage of her, just maybe a few drinks to loosen her up and too boost my confidence.

I am not really sure what is the best way to go about it so that I have the best chance if she is interested and don?t look like a fool if she isn?t. Would I be best just to ask her directly or, should I just start kissing her and then move from there, should I move the conversation onto sex then move from there (if so what topics would be best) or should I try to be a bit more romantic (set the mood with candles or whatever ? I am not sure about this seeing as we are not technically going out any more) or should I try something else like offereing to give her a massage?

It isn't that all I care about with this girl is sex, I do like this girl and I would just like to have a chance to do this before I leave and will most likely not get the chance to do it with her again.

Sorry about the long post.



[This message has been edited by Erotic Nightmares (edited 07-08-2004).]

tell her yah love so much you would do anything for her and still love her even though she has commitment problems and then fuck her dude

quote:Originally posted by Dazzle:

Tips:

- Be slow... bit by bit...Inch by inch... you need to get her aroused before trying anything.

These other members should be sad that a 13 year old has given the best advice so far (sorry firdge but he beat you to it). And for the love of god only listen to this one part of his post.

In my honest opinion though, you will not get laid by this girl before you leave. You have been going out for a month. You are a virgin, and you think she might be one too. If she is, then there is no way in hell (if a 17 year old chick is a virgin she chooses to be), if she's not then you still won't get any because she doesn't talk about it enough to be "easy" enough.

By the way, you should have dropped that hoe when she made out with your friend... And just outta curiosity, what did you say to your friend about it? It's as much his fault as hers (probably more because chances are he instigated it).

Well in terms of the friend I talked to him a bit about it and told him that he had been a prick for doing it. I have known him a long time and he has been a good mate so I didn't really want to loose my friendship over it.

A lot of poeple have been saying I have been a pushover and you are probably right but in normal situation I would have done what you have all been saying and ditched her. It was just the fact that I was going away that I thought I would just spend a bit of time with her. I no longer feel emotionally attached to her and I am not intending on really seeing her when I get back so I thought I might as well let her get away with it.

Just ask her if she wants to make your going away a night to remember...if she has a chipmunk or greater mental capacity she will know what you mean. From there, start with a back rub, move to making out, massage her breasts with intense focus on her nipples, slowly kiss her from her face, to her chest, then down her stomache while removing her leggings; suck her clit a bit while massaging her hips and legs...once she's wet n' ready, fuck her brains out. If you can carry a lot of weight and have decent muscular and respiratory endurance, I highly suggest the Stand and Deliver if you're more than 6" (it's difficult otherwise).

I personally would say no alcohol. That is just asking for trouble. I dont know the girl or anything but from what you say, this girl is not a faithful girl. She isn't loyal to you. If she gets drunk, and you fuck her, you have put yourself in a bad position. Plus you don't know how alcohol affects you sexually. Some people have a lot of trouble coming/ even getting hard if they drink too much before hand. If you fuck up your last chance by not being able to get hard, you will regret it.

Setting the mood is either a really good idea or a really bad idea. You'll know the answer. If she has been "having a little fun" with guys who will fuck around with her and then leave (esentially if she's getting used by these dudes), she will love it if you set the mood. If not, it might seem cheesy, so if you do set the mood, dont be a douche bag and scatter rose petals and play barry white etc. Just make it comfortable, and so she has to be near you.

As someone already said, take it slow. play with her hand in yours, then start out by cuddling with her, and then start kissing her, and work on from there. Then, when things are getting hot, ask her if she would like to have sex. Don't be whiny about it and say it sexily.

Just some friendly advice...if you are going to use a condom, buy some, make sure they fit, and practice putting them on before hand. Nothing turns a girl off quite like having to wait for a guy who struggling with himself for a couple minutes.

So, (guessing time zone here) How did It go?