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Old 2004-07-05, 00:47
Bleedthrough Bleedthrough is offline
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Default Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn?

Remember how she said that we would meet again, some sunny day..

Vera! Vera! What has become of you?

Does anybody else in here

feel the way I do?

This thread is dedicated to romances, sweethearts, summer loves, or even just a friend, from your past who you somehow lost touch with or had to leave behind, and miss. You know: The great guy/girl you met on vacation, but had to leave, and never got the number of, or the high school sweetheart who moved away? Tell us your story!

As for mine..Her name was Cerelia.

I was taking what you might call an extended vacation in Sicily about 5-6 years ago; I was basically living there, in Cefalu, but I wasn't there but a few months. It was a well-deserved vacation from the ordinary, from the boring shitstorm that American life was becoming. Those days in Sicily were some of my best; Though I did plenty of touring (No way was I going to miss Messina or Palermo, and I wanted to see as much of Sicily as possible), I spent most of them just taking long walks around the countryside, beaches, streets; there was beauty everywhere in Sicily. Even the air seemed to purify the soul a little more with each deep breath. I did of course mingle as well as possible, and in the process, I of course learned some Italian, and got better and better at conversing, and translating my mannerisms to the new language. I made friends, went out on those hot summer nights for drinks, walked around just enjoying the female scenery and chatting about American life vs. Sicilian life, school, women, society, you name it, with the male friends I'd made; I sampled the excellent food, always going to the smaller cucinas, as opposed to the big places, chat with people over the customary espresso, you name it. They were great days; I had no obligations, I had a good deal of saved money to spend, I had nothing to do but enjoy the heart of Italy in any way I chose. This is why I'm so fond of all things Italian; not just the beautiful women, or Kelly's influence (she was 100% Sicilian).

It was during my last week in Sicily that I met Cerelia. I was sitting outside one of the smaller cucinas of Agrigento, in the West, having my dessert of arancie al vino, or oranges with wine sauce, before I'd even ordered dinner (I found that in Sicily, eating dessert first and working your way back was common, and even encouraged), and mesmerized by the sunset: It wasn't even a truly spectacular, colorful, cloud-filled sunset; it was just the golden/orange orb of the sun, which appeared inordinately large, throwing off the same golden/orange glow into a cloudless sky. I must have somehow worked myself into a little trance, as I never even acknowledged the sound of the dainty little footfalls of the woman approaching me made on the wooden veranda; I took no notice of anything but the tranquility of the moment, until I was snapped out of it and startled by the chair acrost from me being slid out of it's place. My head snapped in that direction, startled a bit, eyes widened, only to behold a very beautiful young woman in a dress that, though I could tell was meant to be more practical than dressy, looked simply divine on her. She had the beautiful, rich brown hair and the soulful yet tough, equally-rich brown eyes that I had really come to appreciate; something that still stands to this day, as many of you know. She was very petite; about 5'0" on the dot, which placed me a foot and two inches taller than her. She had a sort of serenity about her that reminded me of Kelly (who had stayed behind for the vacation to visit her parents while I was gone), though she somehow simultaneously carried a light-hearted air about her; she was attractive to me because, aside from lovely physical features, she struck me as an introspective woman who was at peace with herself, and yet, capable of having fun and not being too serious or heavy. This was before she even said a word to me. In retrospect, she was worth missing the sunset for, and perhaps even more entrancing at that moment. I still have that memory burned vividly into my memories, and I hope it never leaves.

After taking her seat, she sat down, and then turned her head a bit and looked at the sunset, just as I was. I was just a little unsure of what to say. But then, she spoke to me, in the colloquial dialect which I had also come to appreciate, and by this time, be fairly proficient with.

"It's beautiful, isn't it? It's so easy to get lost in it.", she said, while still looking at the sunset. Her voice was beautiful. Angelic. and yet, still Earthly and "normal".

"Yes.." was all I could say.

"You looked lost in it! You still sound lost in it!" she said with a little chuckle. Truth to tell, I was lost in her. "I couldn't help but come over. You don't look like you're from here, but you have the Sicilian soul, I can tell."

"I'm not from here..But it feels more like home to me than America ever has."

"American?! You look like a Spaniard."

"You might say I am..But I was born and raised in America. New Mexico."

"Ohh, New Mexico! I've studied all the states; yours is the only one with any culture."

"It's like another country to me, sometimes. But I'm coming to love Sicily even more..I only have another week here, before I go back. I've been here for a little over 3 months."

"I want to see the world, New Mexico too, but I could never leave Sicily. By the way, my name is Cerelia..Cerelia Lucia." Note that that was her first and middle name; she was given a first/middle/last name like an American. Her last name I didn't learn until later. Also, she said her friends called her Paola ("little", roughly, also a name), due to her size.

"I'm Thomas O-----[my first/middle]..But most call me Tom, or Tommy..even Tomaso, within the family."

We finished our salutare there, and kept talking, about...everything. I answered her questions about me and where I lived, asked questions about her, talked with her about damn near everything, from food to history to photography to pet peeves to music; you name it. I was indeed right about the inherent serenity she carried with her, but as we chatted more, I learned that I was also right about her funner side. She liked to go out and get drunk and have fun as much as anyone, she liked to dance, she was a wiseass, even, at times; you name it. We liked each other from the start. We had spent about 3 hours and 20 minutes or so there at that table, the sunset long having given way to night, my arancie al vino long forgotten, and the dinner we had long cleared from the table (it was only proper to offer her dinner). We eventually had to say our bella seras and go, but I gave her the relevant contact info of mine, she gave me hers, and I told her I definitely wanted to see more of her.

My last week in Sicily was spent mostly with Cerelia. We did plenty; dinners, dancing, drinks, long walks together, drives out into the country, discussion, everything, all while bonding on more and more of a level. She lived in Agrigento, so I had to go back and get my things from Cefalu and re-base there, but that was my choice; she even offered to come stay in Cefalu for awhile, but I wouldn't dare make her do that.

She had a few quirks, heheh; she was clumsy, for one. She'd stumble a little, bump her elbows on things, you name it. She was graceful, yes, but..clumsily graceful. It was actually very charming. She also was very interested in names and their meanings; I listened to her give me a rundown of what my name meant and why she felt it was significant. It was nice, actually. She was very smart, indeed, and very headstrong, but she was, in true Italian fashion, a bit stubborn as well, and she was very, very impulsive; some would call it immature, but to me, it was just youth and lust for life. We had truly great times together. And it's funny; I know it sounds like a building romance, but what it felt like to me was a building friendship. I was with Kelly at the time, so I was devoted to her, but as it turned out, that devotion was never tested or strained: Cerelia and I became close friends, not lovers. It's hard to explain it, as it borders on the intangible, but that route just kind of felt natural for both of us, I think, even though we never stated that. We never had sex or fooled around or even brought romance into the picture.

When it came time for me to go, I was down as hell, and so was she, of course: I met her for our last time at that same cafe again, where we had a meal together, and talked one more time. She was on the verge of crying throughout it all; I was, as well. We made sure to give each other our contact info; addresses, numbers, etc, and she told me she wanted to come visit me in America someday (might have been hard with Kelly in the picture; even though I was with her, and I stayed faithful to her, and Cerelia and I were friends, you know that women never seem to quite fully be alright with that; sorry, but it's true). I told her I wanted to come back here, too; that her and Sicily felt like home to me. This made her weep a little.

The time came for me to go; I had to drive from Agrigento to Palermo, to the airport, and head back home. Her and I hugged each other, for a very long time; it felt like an eternity, and it still does today. She was crying a little throughout it all; I wanted to, but I for some reason felt the need to hold back and be resolute for her sake. This could be construed as uncaring of me, but she knew better; I'm sure that, with her ears as close to my heart as they were, she could hear it breaking anyway.

We eventually separated, and we kissed each other on each cheek, which is customary in Italy, between close friends, or family. She composed herself, and she told me that she wouldn't forget me, and that she had a wonderful time with me; pleasantry-sounding, I know, but it was meaningful. I said to her that I loved Sicily as it was, but that she's what made it all worth it; what made it feel like home. She gave me a single picture, which is one of her and I, slightly drunk, looking perfectly content together {we had asked a very old woman to take a quick picture of us one evening, so we'd have something tangible to sum up all the good times. It indeed did. Cerelia kept the other copy of it). Then, she said to me..

"I met you when the sun was setting..It's not, right now, but it is, inside right now..I just wish you could stay.."

I told her, "You know that it always rises again". Cold comfort, perhaps, but she seemed a little more tranquil after hearing that.

"I know..", she says sadly.

Eventually, I get to my car, I'm ready to go. And sad as hell. But her and I were both at peace again, somehow.

"Don't worry, Cerelia. We'll see each other again."

Sparing more dialogue...I eventually pulled away, my last glimpse of her being through my rear-view mirror, as she waved; she looked as serene as she did when I first saw her. I knew she would be ok.

I got back to America, and her and I did maintain phone contact, and letter contact, but the calls and letters got more and more infrequent...Cerelia told me in the last letter I received from her that she was going to study abroad, soon. I ended up moving to a different house, and life became very difficult for me for unrelated reasons, so I wasn't able to contact her for awhile. I managed to call again, finally, only for an unfamiliar person to answer, and tell me that I had the "wrong number" when I asked for Cerelia..She had moved away, and I don't know where to.

That was the end. Now, after everything that's happened since, she represents the purest feeling I've ever shared with somebody in retrospect; her and I were truly happy with each other, and we didn't desecrate the experience with sex or romance. When I think about her, I feel sad because we lost contact; right now, after losing Kelly, the purity of my friendship with Cerelia is what I need. I also, however, feel...happy. Looking back, I never felt quite the same even with Kelly.

Cerelia's middle name was "Lucia"..This basically meant "Light". She is light, in my life. Looking back now, she might have been the very brightest. We spent only a week together, but even in that time, we became close like family. I'll never forget her.

Cerelia, if by SOME chance you've read this...I miss you. I'd give anything to see you again.



Looking back, I think that it's because Cerelia and I were such close friends that she's the only woman I've ever really loved so profoundly..It was the love of two friends. Romances can be beautiful, but they aren't meant to last, and they never do. Friendships and familial bonds, however, do.

If I've ever had a soul mate, it was Cerelia.



-Infrared

(Thanks for reading..Fucking shut up about the length; I'm a man with a lot to say. Fucking whiners.)



[This message has been edited by Bleedthrough (edited 07-05-2004).]
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Old 2004-07-05, 01:13
Evolution of A Saint Evolution of A Saint is offline
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Damn man...you should become a writer, very, very descriptive. I feel your pain, I've been there too(though not as quite attached to the other half as you seemed to be). I'll write about it later tho, cause it's 4th of July and i got stuff to do...Just wanted to say i hope you find her, and good luck with it!

~evo
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Old 2004-07-05, 02:08
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Why aren't there men like you in real life?
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Old 2004-07-05, 02:33
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quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

Why aren't there men like you in real life?

There are, you just have to dig past our outer skin to our juicy center...
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:22
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Maybe I dig to the wrong center.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:28
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quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

Maybe I dig to the wrong center.

Hmmm, I don't think anything can have more than one center. I'd say the error is in the guys you choose to dig to the center of...
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:31
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Infra (and yes I will call you Infra forever just like Gustave will always be Guswut), didn't read your post, but I know the gist of it already - say I'm typecasting, but I dare you to tell me I'm wrong. I just wanted to say I do catch all the Pink Floyd references you put into your posts, and it's always appreciated. The Floyd was the first band I ever listened to for real.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:33
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quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

Why aren't there men like you in real life?

(I am on a double posting rampage tonight)

There are guys like us (and I'd consider myself a 'romantic', even though several posts of mine may attest otherwise), and we suffer for it.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:41
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I fuckin' grew up with Pink Floyd, man. I'm only one year older than The Wall...My dad bought it on vinyl, played it for me as an infant; it was there for me through all stages of life. I now listen to it on CD, of course, but I still have that very same vinyl to this day.

And Mojo, There's no one out there like me, for all the good, and all the bad (trust me, there's lots). I know that sounds arrogant, but it's true.

...But goddamn, my resemblance to Sarc in this one picture I had taken awhile ago is fucking creepy. I'll post it when I upload it.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:41
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quote:Originally posted by Gustave:

There are, you just have to dig past our outer skin to our juicy center...

A woman would have a lotta diggin to get to your center Gustave.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:53
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quote:Originally posted by Gustave:

Hmmm, I don't think anything can have more than one center. I'd say the error is in the guys you choose to dig to the center of...

It was a joke. You're slippin'!

What I have to choose from is idiots. That's why I'm single.
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Old 2004-07-05, 03:58
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quote:Originally posted by Black Flag:

A woman would have a lotta diggin to get to your center Gustave.

Oh yes, but it's so big and sexxxxaay.

~~~

quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

It was a joke. You're slippin'!

I know it was a joke, silly. I tried to continue it AND stay on topic. Seems I failed, though. *pouts*

quote:Originally posted by MrMojoRisin:

What I have to choose from is idiots. That's why I'm single.

Eh, I know how you feel. I've never gotten the urge to ask any of the females out at my old high school because they all talked, non-stop, about clothing, make-up, and the current gossip. Trying to get an intelligent conversation out of them would be similar to getting water from a very dry stone.... :\
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Old 2004-07-05, 04:09
Bleedthrough Bleedthrough is offline
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Man...I also miss this girl from 9th grade named Erika Wood. She was SO beautiful. She was natural-looking, and didn't wear too much makeup; that's what made her so hot. We got along well, yes, but we never got to know each other enough to date. She signed my yearbook with this:

"Yo Tom,

What's up? You are a really cool and sweet guy. I hope we have classes together next year too! Cya, Tommy! Or rather, Tom Cruz!

Love always, Erika (heart)"

...Damnit. I REALLY wish I'd stayed in school. I got a great education through homeschool; diploma, and a 3.75 GPA, but I miss my friends from 9th grade.
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Old 2004-07-05, 04:10
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*apologizes to Infrared for hijacking his thread*

Intelligent conversation is so hard to come by these days. But when you do, you're appreciative.

This explains why I talk to myself so much.

[This message has been edited by MrMojoRisin (edited 07-05-2004).]
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Old 2004-07-05, 04:20
Bleedthrough Bleedthrough is offline
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Naaah, no apology needed; just your posting in the thread is nice enough.

As for intelligent conversation..Nothing like it, indeed. Lately, I've had something of a desire for just inane conversations, considering that life before the Final Cut with you-know-who was convoluted and emotional. But that doesn't mean I don't love to wax philosophical or pick people's brains now and again. =]
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Old 2004-07-05, 04:42
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Bleedthrough, or Infra, i really dont know what to call you anymore...lol...anyway, that shit was beautiful man, and it may not seem like it, but im also a romantic, but im shy, so i dont really get many girlfriends...and philosophical(sp) discussions and/or intelligent discussions are great, i wouldnt go out with someone if i couldnt hold a intelligent conversation with them, no matter how hot they were...
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Old 2004-07-05, 05:03
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VERA!!!!! VERA!!!!!!

What has become of YOU!?!?

Classic. Simply classic.

Moving around a lot as I have I've lost touch with many a vera lynn. The most outstanding of which I wasn't even sexually involved with.

For example there was this one girl, she's a lady actually true class, but she was the first to give me a chance in the shit hole called New Jersey. From that friendship I was pulled out of a self-depriciating downward spiral of senseless nothingness. With my relationship with her I soon gained friendships all around, but then I fucked it up around half way through highschool. Well I didn't fuck it up technically but I didn't stand by her like I should have, like she stood by me.

It's actually kinda funny that I come across this thread because I got a call from her about a week ago but my cell phone was stuck in retard mode as usual and I was drunk so I forgot about it. Then a few days ago my brother was somewhere (some restaraunt I think) and saw her and she told him to tell me to call her.

I think I will.

Thank you totse.
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Old 2004-07-05, 06:30
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I was attracted to her long before I even saw her. Her beauty timeless, fitting in the best silent films of the '50s like a glove or the dreams I had last night like the answer to this equation. She was quiet around me, we shared silence like drinks. We shared love like we shared our content. She commanded attention, but not from me, because we were equal. One in the same. Around my friends, she drank a lot; she spoke loudly, and she smiled often.

Gone was the girl whose father left her and her mom alone and poor. Gone was the girl who overcame crippling drug use. Gone was the girl who couldn't sleep unless I said "goodnight." Gone was my love.

She didn't stray far, as if she didn't want to lose her way. She didn't walk too fast, as if she wanted to make sure she wasn't stepping over too many toes. She never carried gasoline over bridges.

I'm left with bitterness, like I'm left with words. I'm left with emptiness like I'm left with memories. I loved her, I really did. But now I know better...

---

She helped me win a poetry contest by inspiring me, and helped me find a new passion, acting as therapy.
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Old 2004-07-05, 06:40
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Vera Lynn is rhyming slang for chin...
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Old 2004-07-05, 06:41
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My god infra. Why do you have two accounts? Excuse my ignorance on the subject.. but damn. If something happened to your other account, then ok, but if not, then why the second account? Looking for more attention? or what..
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Old 2004-07-05, 09:02
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quote:Originally posted by Johnnx:

Vera Lynn is rhyming slang for chin...

You soft Soho bastard!! Meet me up the apples and pears!
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Old 2004-07-05, 13:39
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High school sweetheart. Well...sorta.

Was kind of like a relationship without sex, just lots of cuddling. I think we just enjoyed the closeness more than anything else. I miss that so much.

One of those people that would say or do something and make you stop in awe and just admire them and completely astonish you that another person could be so on the same level as you.

I can honestly say she is the only person I've ever felt I have TRULY connected with.

Damnit I miss her.

Nokio
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Old 2004-07-05, 15:12
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Pink floyd, one of the most depressing tracks on the album too you chose for this thread Yeah well, this makes me think about anything female I came close to, had a taste of, got the feeling of "love" and lost. Sad, true, and pathetic. Sometimes I don't like remembering the happy times I've had with a signifigant other, makes me feel even more down.
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Old 2004-07-05, 15:38
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The most depressing track is "Nobody Home", man. It manages to sound like the words of someone who's both halfheartedly optomistic and yet completely hopeless and heart-ruined inside. That's fucking scary.
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Old 2004-07-05, 16:12
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god damn, thomas (infrared) great reading.. a sad ending, but really great reading... damn I hope you find her again someday. have you tried writing her ( on the address you have) they might send the letter to her new address... dont know.. try it.. if you haven“t already..

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