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| Sex and Affection Anything and everything about sex and relations. Please try to keep this forum on-topic, since things tend to wander a bit. Search through old topics before posting a new one, as questions get repeated a lot here. |
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#1
 2004-06-05, 22:05
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fstabber 
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how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
I'm seeing this girl right now, and for a while i thought she was from a rich family because of her 'expensive tastes'; but i met her parents the other day and they aren't rich, at all. they live in a modest house in the city, the father is a technician/elecrician and the mother is a teacher, yet the daughter looks like she's straight out of bel air... any comments?
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#2
 2004-06-05, 23:13
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ararise 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Outlet stores. Or maybe they spend more money on her than anything else.
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#3
 2004-06-06, 03:01
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Shiantar 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by fstabber:
(...)the father is a technician/elecrician and the mother is a teacher(...)
Electricians are skilled labourers (like plumbers, for example) who charge godawfully high hourly labour rates. Electrical or electronics technicians can charge even more due to their experience (like upwards of USD$15 per hour on contract work -- translating to maybe $30,000 per year or more)
Teachers are usually unionized and get high yearly salaries and shitloads of benefits (in the vicinity of USD$30,000 per year and more with experience)
That's not what I'd call working-class -- a family with two working parents in those employment sectors and pulling in a combined $60,000 before taxes is middle- to middle-upper-class.
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#4
 2004-06-06, 10:59
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reefguy 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
I think the teacher salary depends on the type of teacher/how long they've been a teacher and what extra responsibilities they take on.
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#5
 2004-06-06, 11:11
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Is she an only child? They may spoil her. But is she spoiled in character? or just well-dressed? Don't judge a book....
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#6
 2004-06-06, 11:17
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Some people just have superiority complexes man.
Making yourself look good isn't hard to do...I've managed to do it for a couple years on a lousy £40 a week dole money!
Unless she's treating you like she is rich and powerful...And like you're lower class scum...Don't worry about it mate! 
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#7
 2004-06-06, 14:00
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BlackNiggaTown 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Maybe she sells crack.
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#8
 2004-06-06, 14:03
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The_Rabbi 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
If you want to earn a good living, be a plumber.
I'm seriously considering it. Those guys make a ton of fucking money.
I'm also considering dermatologist, though. I like the idea of dermatology, my dad gave me it. All the perks and cash of a doctor with no responsibility. Nobody's life is in your hands, you just take a look and prescribe some pills. You could probably do it drunk.
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#9
 2004-06-06, 14:38
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
ok, i am friends with my government teacher, he makes 75000 a year, and if he retires in 4 years he will get 57000 a year.
My cousin was a plumber right after college, so was his dad and his brother, he got quite a bit, i think at most i rember he brought home 5000 in one month, thats about 50,000 so its possible they arent as bad off as they seem. I mean, i would never live it up if i had money, which i dont. I love blue collar living.
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#10
 2004-06-06, 14:42
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The_Rabbi 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by bushy:
ok, i am friends with my government teacher, he makes 75000 a year, and if he retires in 4 years he will get 57000 a year.
Where the hell are you that teachers make 75K?
quote:My cousin was a plumber right after college, so was his dad and his brother, he got quite a bit, i think at most i rember he brought home 5000 in one month, thats about 50,000 so its possible they arent as bad off as they seem. I mean, i would never live it up if i had money, which i dont. I love blue collar living.
Believe me, plumbers make the bucks.
It's like garbagemen, who also get paid well. Nobody else wants to do what they do.
You can't fix your own plumbing, they've got you over a barrel and they WILL ram it home with the charges.
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#11
 2004-06-06, 14:52
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
upper arlington, hes worked there like 35 years. its in the burbs. but now he only teaches 4 classes, thats like 170 mins a day. so that means he works a total of a little under 4 hrs a day. well he has meetings and shit but still, 4 classes a day. 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month, 10 months a year, thats like 100 dollars and hour. THATS INSANE
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#12
 2004-06-06, 14:58
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
I'm also considering dermatologist, though. I like the idea of dermatology, my dad gave me it. All the perks and cash of a doctor with no responsibility. Nobody's life is in your hands, you just take a look and prescribe some pills. You could probably do it drunk.
What about skin cancer?
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#13
 2004-06-06, 15:07
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The_Rabbi 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by nocuous:
What about skin cancer?
Oh, yeah. That too.
Do dermatologists do the operations, or do they diagnose and refer onward to surgeons?
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#14
 2004-06-06, 15:14
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The_Rabbi 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
I guess I can't claim the title of Pimple Popper M.D., eh?
I fucking love that show.
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#15
 2004-06-06, 16:55
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
Oh, yeah. That too.
Do dermatologists do the operations, or do they diagnose and refer onward to surgeons?
There's usually a professional conflict. Dermatologists will do stuff to minor lesions, like cryotherapy and radiotherapy, and refer the larger or more omnious ones (like melanoma) or the ones that recur after their own treatment to the surgeons.
And then the surgeons swear because a small skin lesion after radio or cryotherapy looks more like a large third degree burn and it usually needs skin grafting by then.
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#16
 2004-06-07, 01:01
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Rabbi, I was just reading about a dermatologist in a malpractice suit. While administering a "simple" collagen injection, he managed to kill a nerve and cause half this woman's face to "fall". Oopsie.
Electricians make far more than $15/hour in the USA. More like $25-$75/hr, depending on geography and whether they work for themselves, a contractor or a corporation.
Anyways, sounds like these people know how to spend money but it doesn't mean they have much. Anyone can do that; it's as easy as falling off a log. They could be up to their eyeballs in consumer debt and never have more than a week's pay in the bank. Or, maybe they own the house outright and/or it could have been inherited. And maybe they know how to be frugal in some ways so they can provide all the things money can buy for their daughter, which is poor parenting.
The bottom line is that you can rarely judge someone's financial worth by appearances and material possessions. Debt runs rampant in the USA.
[This message has been edited by deadlycindy (edited 06-07-2004).]
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#17
 2004-06-07, 01:08
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
Where the hell are you that teachers make 75K?
Heaven. 
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#18
 2004-06-07, 07:27
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
quote:Originally posted by Shiantar:
Electricians are skilled labourers (like plumbers, for example) who charge godawfully high hourly labour rates. Electrical or electronics technicians can charge even more due to their experience (like upwards of USD$15 per hour on contract work -- translating to maybe $30,000 per year or more)
Teachers are usually unionized and get high yearly salaries and shitloads of benefits (in the vicinity of USD$30,000 per year and more with experience)
That's not what I'd call working-class -- a family with two working parents in those employment sectors and pulling in a combined $60,000 before taxes is middle- to middle-upper-class.
dude you are a retard teachers dont make shit. never have and probably never will. My mom is a teacher she makes less than the damn janitors at some places. Isnt it sad that the people teaching the future leaders of America get paid so little.
[This message has been edited by jollydickhead (edited 06-07-2004).]
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#19
 2004-06-07, 08:01
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JoJo 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
your not there accountant how do you know how much cash they have, for all you know the could be millionaires dont be so quick to judge people by how they look, even though its fun
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#20
 2004-06-07, 08:53
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The gURu 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Had a plumber over today.
Costs were as follows:
$65 to get here + expenses
$97.50 services
10% GST
Damn. Here was here for like an hour and a half.
They do get shitloads of money. Another thing they do is make it cheaper if you pay cash so they don't end up paying any tax.
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#21
 2004-06-07, 09:43
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
How do u know the parents havn't robbed a bank and the daughter is black mailing them to get what she wants?
Or that mum & daughter put on sex shows to raise extra cash...
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#22
 2004-06-07, 10:41
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Loc Dogg 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Maybe she has a sugar daddy and she's cheating on you. She fucks her sugar daddy for cash and gifts but she fucks you on the side because you are what the girls call, "so hot".
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#23
 2004-06-07, 11:13
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moonmeister 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Maybe she's not actually * spoiled * but just
doesn't wash enough, so she smells that way.
Maybe she takes the Japanese/Italian or other
places I haven't read articles about, teen hooker way. Probably a thing in lot's of places where girls who value posessions very
highly, get to *work*.
Probably high household debt though.
Maybe she just needs a good sodomizing?
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#24
 2004-06-08, 09:00
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fstabber 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
I'm not talking "i want all the attention because i'm special" kind of spoiled... well that too, but what bothers me more is the "i want a $400 purse for my birthday even though I have 10 more just like".
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#25
 2004-06-08, 10:54
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moonmeister 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
^^^Ooooooh! Don't let that girl go! She is just the kind of woman you want to work hard to support. Her & the kids. You'll work hard & she'll stay home with the kids...when she's
not out shopping.
What are her parents spending habits like? Does her ma spend the same kind of fashion cash?
[This message has been edited by moonmeister (edited 06-08-2004).]
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#26
 2004-06-08, 22:26
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
in new york teachers make alot (>60,000) but in the south, not so much (<40,000).
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#27
 2004-06-08, 22:36
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
Whoever said electricians only make $30,000 a year is a fucking moron. 30k isn't shit.
Are you still a kid? Do you live with your parents? Because you don't really seem to have a grasp of the real value of money, or work, or services provided.
I don't know about teachers, but they are sterotyped to make little money. That might just be greedy teachers saying that to get more money though.
As far as how the girl dresses, fuck it, unless she is a bitch to you. Even if she is a bitch to other people. That means she will eventually do it to you.
My sister is like that girl, we grew up poor as fuck, living in a car at one time, and at most other times, we had no eletricity or water.
When we had a phone, and electricity, and water, and food, we were high on the hog. Yet, my sister still grew up to be a snotty little preppy fucking bitch. She thinks she is better than everyone, even though she has never worked a fucking day in her life, and is still poor, even though she is on her own.
She is having trouble paying her bills, yet I am the one who gets snubbed.
I don't know why, I really don't.
I wish I did, so I could prevent it from happening to my daughter.
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#28
 2004-06-08, 22:47
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The Misfit 
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Re: how does a girl from a working class family get so spoiled?
yeah teachers make a pretty decent living in New York, of course New York and California have probably the highest educational standards in the US for both students and teachers.
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