i am just so freaked! i have just spoken to a girlfriend and her face was black and blue.her boobs were the same and she had ciggy burns on her genitals!

her boyfriend had beaten her for forgetting to buy in beer! can you believe it? i told her she should go to the cops and leave him NOW.but she won't.she even defends him.

i have never made a secret of the fact i am spanked by my b/f. if i've been a real bitch he'll take his belt to me. but its always on the bum. i think a man has a right to discipline his woman and i know that sometimes i need it. but NO man has the right to do that!

i know i can't make her decisions for her but i'm scared he'll really do her some damage.

keep thinking i should call the cops about it but then she'll hate me forever and she won't testify against him.

I think unless she comes forward there is little you can do. Offer her your support and understanding, and help her to see she desrves better. You might also want to confront the boyfriend. You might be able to get through to him and convince him to get himself help.

quote:Originally posted by henteichicken:

i think a man has a right to discipline his woman and i know that sometimes i need it.[b]

theres the problem. what kind of twisted idea is that? why exactly do men have the right to discipline their women? if you dont respect yourselves then how can you expect your boyfreinds to? sorry if this sounds harsh, its just hard to sympathise with people who probably have a large part to play in their own suffering. my advice to you and your freind is to get some self respect and stop going out with complete wankers.

matty baby you've got real good taste in music(just checked your website!).shame you don't know much abouts us girls.

i have got a funny feeling you get treated like dirt by most of the girls you meet because you're seem like a nice caring man.

Matt doesn't take any fucking shit from anyone, really, he's not the "caring type", if you piss him off he'll make you feel very, very small, and he has a good point, you're way too submissive, why the fuck should you take any shit from anyone?

I see this all the time, complete arseholes exercise their dominance through violence and playing on their partner's insecurities, and because they damage their morale so badly, they feel they depend on their abusive wanker boyfriends.

This really pisses me off a lot becuase I've seen it happen to several people I know, don't take any bullshit, because as soon as you get into the mindset that "you need to be disciplined" you're digging your own grave.

I can't be sure, but from the description you gave of the injuries, it does not sound like she was just beat up. Maybe she was, but it sounds more like hard S&M to me. That does not mean she is not in an abusive relationship, but it does make things more complicated. If she is consenting to this, I am not sure what you can do.

What the fuck is that, you need to be disciplined, honey don't let your man think that he can hurt you and you will take it, it will only get worse.

The next thing you know he's putting you in sleepers and stalking your ass or has people watching you because he thinks he owns you, then try beaking up with him it's almost impossible.

Why would you think you need discipline, your you're own person you make your own decisions, you shouldn't be punished for that and if you are he's to controlling.

You and your friend need to get rid of your men before it's to late.

yes easy going i did wonder about the burns thing myself. but as i know her b/f i can believe it. he's a real ratfink and has left one girl with a small baby(his!) already.he doesn't think he needs to get a job and lives off what she can make.

i told my b/f about this and he said not to do anything cos he would 'deal' with it. now i'm scared that he'll do something silly like kill this bastard. he's killed before and is a pyscho. me and my big mouth.

to the rest of you you think i have no self respect: i did say i was strange and i'm very mixed up but i've met a lota girls who feel the same way about their men spanking them. maybe i'm just a kink??

[This message has been edited by henteichicken (edited 05-19-2004).]

Ok sorry to convert into asshole mode but hentai you are a dumb bitch.

Cigarette burns on her genitals? Your B/F has killed before?

This is some bullshit, you are an idiot to for one let your boyfriend spank you with a belt? You deserve to be spanked? You deserve to go to the gas chamber so you can no longer breed.

You bet he gets treated like shit because he's a nice guy? Sorry I don't like to beat the shit out of women so they sleep with me.

You are the reason women have been opressed, because you let men control you and that's how it is going to be until you and the rest of the women realize your not going to get equality till you stop being victims.

Anyways, this is why I don't even fraternize with girls like this and just leave them to the assholes.

quote:Originally posted by mattskinny:

theres the problem. what kind of twisted idea is that? why exactly do men have the right to discipline their women? if you dont respect yourselves then how can you expect your boyfreinds to? sorry if this sounds harsh, its just hard to sympathise with people who probably have a large part to play in their own suffering. my advice to you and your freind is to get some self respect and stop going out with complete wankers.

Hentai, I know others have said this to you, but I'll say it anyway:

You..are..a..DUMBASS!

Why in the FUCK would you feel your boyfriend has the right to discipline you? Are you two Muslim or something? If you're a bitch to him everyday of the week, that STILL doesn't give him a right to use a belt, a board, his hand, whatever on you. You are your own person and no one elses.

Someone said it earlier in the post, but how far are you willing to let him go? First its a belt on your ass only if you've been a bitch, then its a belt on your bare ass (assuming hes not doing that already) for being a bitch. Then its a belt on your ass for the hell of it, then pretty soon you wind up like your friend. You admitted yourself hes a 'psycho', so why the fuck are you still with him?

I'd forget your friend and start worrying about yourself. I am engaged to a girl at this moment, and after the wedding (or even before it), no matter what she does or says to me, it DOESN'T give me a right to hit or 'discipline' her. I would never lay a hand on her no matter what, and if your boyfreind is even 1% real man, he wouldn't either to you.

Think about it...

if she has two black eyes that means she has already been told twice.

quote:First its a belt on your ass only if you've been a bitch, then its a belt on your bare ass (assuming hes not doing that already) for being a bitch. Then its a belt on your ass for the hell of it, then pretty soon you wind up like your friend. You admitted yourself hes a 'psycho', so why the fuck are you still with him?

we've been together now for 5 years and he has'nt changed or got like worse. how many here have had a 5 year relationship?(except maybe with their hand?).

why am i still with him? cos i love him ! despite all his faults and all.he makes me feel 10 ft tall and like nothing can ever hurt me.

hentai-if i read your post in spurious right you've been with this bloke since you were 12? tell me i'm wrong cos that sounds very unhealthy.

Why dont you go round there and beat the dirty cunt up coz i would for being a wife beater. Go round wiv a couple of mates and kidnap him and torture and murder him simple as that. fuck him and if you havent done that yet then you are a woman a fuckin cissy mums boy so get round there daft cunt and cut yer fuckin whinging bwahahahah

Oh BTW im going to murder the President of the United States and his little dog too (Tony)

Get a grip will yer go to bed and have a wank (Not Over Kids)

LOL.

It's ironic I read someone post about her age that she hooked up.

I was just about to say, what did you hook up at age 11?

Bitch, being in an unhealthy relationship for 5 years ain't shit. Being in a good relationship for 5 years is something.

Your a dumbass, your probably trailor trash and just got a puter for christmas.

Please remove yourself from here becuase all that is going to happen is you getting harassed.

Everyone, shut the fuck up. "She"is clearly a troll. Just forget it.

Haha.

Females are fucking stupid.

Your ignorance hurts me.

NEVER let a man hurt you and get away with it. Do you think he's gonna respect you after you lean over for his belt and let him "dicipline" you?

If you let him treat you like a child that's how he's gonna think of you. As his to treat how he wants. And that's how things end up the way they did for your friend. If you let anyone think your theirs to dicipline they'll just take it further and further until they end up beating you for not getting beer.

It fucks with my mind to know that women let their man do this to them. I mean my guy is no pussywhip, we fucking punch each other in the face and roll around fighting. But he knows I would cut his throat before he "diciplined" me. If you have to deal with violence in your life, fight back, it's the only way your gonna survive it.

All discipline, with the exception of nonviolent self, even nonviolent, parent to child discipline is wrong. You are not free if anyone has the power to control you in any way. True freedom is the freedom of mind, the freedom to not fear or obey. This is what I hate about school; they tell me how to live my life. Anyone who submits to the control of others is evil, as is anyone who would deign to control others. When ones will becomes the extension of anothers, a hunk of your soul is consumed. Freedom is the only virtue. Freedom, preservation of the self, and chaos. This is the only thing worth fighting for. You fool. I would rather kill myself than suffer what you do. All relationships that are not equal are dysfunctional. Without freedom, you are dead.

Any self respecting person would rip their life back with skeletal hands.

Chaos is perfect...

Only in chaos can true freedom be attained...

(I normally write unprocessed thoughts like this in my journal, excuse me for posting while in my late night state of mental awareness/insanity. This is my current manifesto.)

quote:Originally posted by ChickenOfDoom:

All discipline, with the exception of nonviolent self, even nonviolent, parent to child discipline is wrong. You are not free if anyone has the power to control you in any way. True freedom is the freedom of mind, the freedom to not fear or obey. This is what I hate about school; they tell me how to live my life. Anyone who submits to the control of others is evil, as is anyone who would deign to control others. When ones will becomes the extension of anothers, a hunk of your soul is consumed. Freedom is the only virtue. Freedom, preservation of the self, and chaos. This is the only thing worth fighting for. You fool. I would rather kill myself than suffer what you do. All relationships that are not equal are dysfunctional. Without freedom, you are dead.

Any self respecting person would rip their life back with skeletal hands.

Chaos is perfect...

Only in chaos can true freedom be attained...

(I normally write unprocessed thoughts like this in my journal, excuse me for posting while in my late night state of mental awareness/insanity. This is my current manifesto.)

Obviously you've never been a parent, or studied politics and society. You make me sick, you ignorant prick.

the poster is clearly a troll so let's not feed the trolls (although I have met people who "brag" about their problems, and they piss me off bad enough to slap)

Erm, henteichicken, do you live somewhere in the middle-east?

i'm starting to think that chickenheadbitch, or whatever her name is, is a troll. i've read a few things she's posted, and i didn't think they made chicks that dumb anymore. i dunno. maybe it can be attributed to a pointless drug habit.

hentai, you my slutty friend, are a fucking idiot.

You think matt gets treated like shit for being a nice guy huh? You think hes a nice guy because he says no guy has a right to hit his girl? No thats just fucking common sense. Your the typical bitch i would just use as a sex toy while im not getting laid by someone who I liked more. You think you have everything figured out, dont bother trying in life. Just go into the bathroom, take a razor, and slit your wrist. Save yourself the trouble of living the rest of life. And remember, down the tracks not across the road, make it count.

[This message has been edited by whiteass (edited 05-19-2004).]

I don’t know if she is a troll or not, but I would not be so naive to think no one thinks like her. You would be surprised how much “discipline” goes on in some relationships.

people i sorry if you think i've been a troll cos i never meant to. i didn't mean this thread to become a discussion on 'domestic discipline' . i am in a wierd relationship i know that and yes i did meet my b/f when i was 11/12.

troll? no! a crazy, mixed up little bint? yes. although if she wants to be disciplined then that's her choice.i'm guesing there's a sexual element to it anyway, at least on her part if not on her b/f's.

and hentai tell me please that he was'nt shagging you at age 11?

thank you mr.jackoff! if i answer that then i'll get acussed of being a troll again you jerk!

quote:Originally posted by ChickenOfDoom:

All discipline, with the exception of nonviolent self, even nonviolent, parent to child discipline is wrong. You are not free if anyone has the power to control you in any way. True freedom is the freedom of mind, the freedom to not fear or obey. This is what I hate about school; they tell me how to live my life. Anyone who submits to the control of others is evil, as is anyone who would deign to control others. When ones will becomes the extension of anothers, a hunk of your soul is consumed. Freedom is the only virtue. Freedom, preservation of the self, and chaos. This is the only thing worth fighting for. You fool. I would rather kill myself than suffer what you do. All relationships that are not equal are dysfunctional. Without freedom, you are dead.

Any self respecting person would rip their life back with skeletal hands.

Chaos is perfect...

Only in chaos can true freedom be attained...

(I normally write unprocessed thoughts like this in my journal, excuse me for posting while in my late night state of mental awareness/insanity. This is my current manifesto.)

It might be sick...but it is right when you think about it...but you know...dont think about and say it's ignorant. That's saying something.

look guys this realy was not supposed to be a thread about my relationship.

ok i believe something that a lot of you don't but isn't that my right?

and jackfuckingketch is right again (bastard) as yes there is asexual element on my part.no i hate the pain (and 30 blows with a leather belt by a very strong man on a naked bum is pain not play) but i do get aroused by the 'sermon' before he spanks me.and when he pulls my panties down i sometimes feel that i'm getting wet.

when i lie over the table or his knee with my bum in the air its somehow a good feeling.

as i said before may be i'm just sick but i'm happy with it.

So he was fucking you when you were 11, and he has quite a bit of dominance over you.

Let me guess he was 18 when you met?

no he was about 28 . i don't know for sure cos i don't even know what day is his birthday. god that sounds so dumb but that's the way we are.

alright this is getting ridiculous. Its obvious your an attention whore now...why? because everytime someone asks a sensitive question, you come back with a shocking response that has a phrase, comment, sentence or something that begs a future sensitive question, just so you can answer with another shocking statement.

my vote is this thread is about 100% bullshit. Go play at the mall.

i don't think she's an attention whore. i think she's a 17 year white trash girl who has lived in a restrictive environment for too many years.somehow her answers ring true but naive.and to be honest who gives a fuck anyway?

quote:and i thought i was fucked up..?

Oh, no doubt about it, you are definitely fucked up.

Your friend is just a helluva lot more fucked up than you are.

this is silly. 1st you say i'm a troll and now i'm supposed to be an attention whore?

i don't mean to shock anyone (i would have thought people on totse were case hardened anyway) i just answer questions.i'm not ashamed of my relationship or of what i am.

quote:Originally posted by henteichicken:

i am just so freaked! i have just spoken to a girlfriend and her face was black and blue.her boobs were the same and she had ciggy burns on her genitals!

her boyfriend had beaten her for forgetting to buy in beer! can you believe it? i told her she should go to the cops and leave him NOW.but she won't.she even defends him.

i have never made a secret of the fact i am spanked by my b/f. if i've been a real bitch he'll take his belt to me. but its always on the bum. i think a man has a right to discipline his woman and i know that sometimes i need it. but NO man has the right to do that!

i know i can't make her decisions for her but i'm scared he'll really do her some damage.

keep thinking i should call the cops about it but then she'll hate me forever and she won't testify against him.

Fool.

quote:Originally posted by henteichicken:

this is silly. 1st you say i'm a troll and now i'm supposed to be an attention whore?

i don't mean to shock anyone (i would have thought people on totse were case hardened anyway) i just answer questions.i'm not ashamed of my relationship or of what i am.

"shocking responses" was just a way to put it, I highly doubt you shocked anyone here. At least not by your sexual acts, but possible at intelligence level. I mean you managed to turn on your computer, Connect to the net, type in totse.com, register, and create a thread. Yet then you come up with this complete idiocy. Fuck it, im not even going to try anymore. When you have a sliver of self respect, email me.

He was 28 when he met you and you were 11. Now 5 years later your 16? and he's 33?

Wow....I am sure that brings no attention out...

Anyways, it's a troll, or just some dumb 10 year old. Let's just leave the thread alone.

yes carbon please leave this thread alone.you are probably gay like jackketch anyway.

quote:He was 28 when he met you and you were 11. Now 5 years later your 16? and he's 33?

If that's true then the dude belongs in jail. Heck, he probably belongs in jail even if it isn't true.

i think most 33 year olds would kill to have a 16 year bint that loved them as much as this one obviously loves her jean.

and by god she must really love him!

Lol I'm gay?

Well atleast I'm not getting horse beaten by a man 20 years older than me.

quote:Originally posted by LutherX:

If that's true then the dude belongs in jail. Heck, he probably belongs in jail even if it isn't true.





it is because of such small minded atittudes i left home and we moved over the border, my parents did get the cops involved and have never accepted us.

quote:Originally posted by henteichicken:

no he was about 28 . i don't know for sure cos i don't even know what day is his birthday. god that sounds so dumb but that's the way we are.

As if people didn't respect you before for accepting being beaten by your man, now you admit that he's some kind of super paedophile too? I'd be careful if I were you, he's probably only going to see your mate's abusive boyfriend to get some info on that abusive boyfriend's abandoned kid that you mentioned.

So he probably spanks you because he is old enough to be your dad eh? I now don't even believe this is true, just a fantasy made up by a 12 year old.

Yeah like it's that hard to get a restraining order on a 28 year old stalking your daughter?

I mean for god sakes it's the U.S. you could have him put in jail for atleast 30 days lol. Anyways, it is a bunch of bullshit, just leave it alone.

actually carbon here in europe (where she is) its not very easy at all. esp in germany and holland. england aint too easy neither (ian huntley was shagging 13 year olds for years and police and social services did nothing)

quote:Originally posted by jackketch:

england aint too easy neither (ian huntley was shagging 13 year olds for years and police and social services did nothing)

Since when did Huntley actually sexually abuse those 2 girls, let alone shag em? Nothing was ever mentioned of sexual intent, no evidence found, no nothing I ever read relating him to sex with anyone but Carr, and she's 30-something.

30 is not 13, there is a slight difference.

quote:Originally posted by jca-:

Since when did Huntley actually sexually abuse those 2 girls, let alone shag em? Nothing was ever mentioned of sexual intent, no evidence found, no nothing I ever read relating him to sex with anyone but Carr, and she's 30-something.

30 is not 13, there is a slight difference.



was'nt talking about soham. its come out since the trial that he had several violent relationships with underage girls up in geordie land before getting the soham job.there was a program last week about it.they couldnt tell it before the trial for the usual legal reasons.