Ok, here's my story: I am a 15 year old, in 10th grade, and seriously confused about what to do about the girls in my life. The only girl that I can truly say that I have loved was with me for 9 months before she decided that I shouldn't be with her, and that she wanted to be "free".

The truth is that I still don't understand her decision to give up on me for whatever reasons she had, just to move on to two other meaningless relationships. I'm not just being bitter in calling them "meaningless" either, that's what she tells me they are/were.

Me and the girl, let's call her A, are still very good friends, i.e. we still hang out, hug, kiss, sometimes make out. Lately I've been hanging out with another girl, S. S is very attractive and a good person overall, but I'm not attracted to her in any other way than physically. Lately it seems that I want something more with S, but that I'm not willing to give up on A. A, though, also has another relationship with a guy (J) that I know (he's a dick, liar, overall piece of shit, so obviously A goes for that other guy, not the "nice guy" or whatever they call us pansies).

J and A have almost nothing more than a physical relationship, which I can logically know is alright, but I still don't like. Well, my problem is that I have looked down on A and J for having nothing more than physical attraction, but now I feel it for S, which is confusing.

Ok, that's getting a bit muddled. Anyways, I'm not sure whether I should stick around for A, be there for her, willing to shower her in affection when J and her break it off, or if I should back off some and go for S. Ok, I'm not sure if anyone can help with this, but it feels good to type it all out.

Also, I noticed today when me and A were hanging out, that I was disgusted by the fact that I know she has had sex multiple times with J. Me and A lost our virginities together after being together for about 8 months and had sex probably 10 times. That was 3 months ago. Now J and A have had sex 6 times in the last month that they've been together. Gah... I have some issues to work out now.

[This message has been edited by SublimeZen124 (edited 04-26-2004).]

Wow this is a lot for a 15yr old to think about... even for me to think about.

I would say not to worry about A because from the sounds of it you don't want her anyways.

Try going for S then I guess who knows it might end up being a meaningful relationship.

But just so you know, girl at your age, or any age for that matter, hardly know what they want. So tell them!

"Gah... I have some issues to work out now."

Yes, you do. :P

On a more helping note, all teenage relationship will eventually break down. Learn to live with that, and try moving on. You may get to know someone more mentally and physically attractive who you would never have met if you kept pining for A.

I say go with 'S'. Don't hang around wasting your time for a girl that didn't respect you enough to stay with you. And who knows, you might really like and fall in love with 'S'! You're attracted to her physically but you still might love her when you get to know her so dont feel guilty.

And if you're sadistic like me I'd let 'A' know that you're going out with 'S' and if you get some, tell her too.

As disgusted you are with what A is doing, I still suggest you clean up your act a little too. I think the fact that you and A go as far as making out while seeing other people is wrong. In my opinion, you should drop both A and S and start fresh. Find someone that is dedicated, and attractive. Dedication seems to be the underlying issue here, and since A shows she obviously doesn't have any, I think you should look elsewhere. As for S, don't play her. If the only attraction between you two is a physical one... is it worth keeping?

See, the thing is that I don't have anything going with S, we're just friends. And A, I don't feel like ever kissing her anywhere but the forehead ever again. Her lack of self respect/control disgusts me, even though I have no reason to judge her. Now I'm trying to decide whether to completely get away from A so I can get over her, or to stay close to her because we are such good friends. I definately haven't been keeping S a secret from A or vice versa, I have no reason to. And also, I think that S would be down for a little physical contact a few times, possibly nothing else.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

I say distance yourself from that whore 'A' but I still like the idea of throwing 'S' around a few times just to get back at 'A'.

quote:Originally posted by Billowz:

Wow this is a lot for a 15yr old to think about... even for me to think about.



Yeah, it is a lot, but I'm not exactly the average 15 year old high school student. I'm a vegetarian for moral reasons, I like to paint, write poetry/songs, read, and get the shit kicked out of me in mosh pits, then go to school on Monday and try to maintain straight A's. According to my IQ, which I think is bullshit, but I still agree with, I'm halfway between average and genius. In case you haven't caught on yet, I also tend to over think things. And for some reason, I like to waste my potential by smoking too much weed and not caring about my future.

In short, I'm not very normal.

quote:Originally posted by SublimeZen124:

I like to waste my potential by smoking too much weed and not caring about my future.

Heh, this sounds a lot like me at 15. Except I stopped smoking weed and only recently started caring about my future.

Don't worry dude, there will always be more girls. Esp. if you're only 15.

Don't get serious with 15 year old girls!! Just like the baby who throws its rattle out of the crib for no known reason, then whines and cries about not having it because it's on the floor, the 15 year old girl discards her BFs often, and for no reason at all. Don't even try to figure out why......'cause the truth is that she, herself, doesn't even know. It's just a part of her metamorphis (sp?)from an emotionally imature twit into a slightly more rational female. Come back and see her when she is 19, and if you still like her then, she might be worth your time and effort. Love, Venus.

quote:Originally posted by pretty pinay:

... the 15 year old girl discards her BFs often, and for no reason at all. Don't even try to figure out why......'cause the truth is that she, herself, doesn't even know. It's just a part of her metamorphis (sp?)from an emotionally imature twit into a slightly more rational female.

Ah, I just thought my ex was a evil sadistic bitch, my bad then.

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quote:Originally posted by SublimeZen124:

Originally posted by Billowz:

Wow this is a lot for a 15yr old to think about... even for me to think about.



Yeah, it is a lot, but I'm not exactly the average 15 year old high school student. I'm a vegetarian for moral reasons, I like to paint, write poetry/songs, read, and get the shit kicked out of me in mosh pits, then go to school on Monday and try to maintain straight A's. According to my IQ, which I think is bullshit, but I still agree with, I'm halfway between average and genius. In case you haven't caught on yet, I also tend to over think things. And for some reason, I like to waste my potential by smoking too much weed and not caring about my future.

In short, I'm not very normal.

no actually, your lifestyle is rather like every other person i know to some extent.

as much as we would like to be "different" most teenagers live similar lives to some extent/aspect. we just don't like admitting it. :P

Looks like you're in a bad position. Id definatly say move on completly from A stay friends but don't kiss her or do anything and if she tries step back say "yo we are through if you want to be physical go find some other guy" A sounds like a slut I mean kissing another guy while shes with a different guy? Id also say go with S because at this age(your one year younger then me) most realationships won't last so why even bother waiting for a realationship thats totaly emotional? Go for S and get some and hell maybe you'll get lucky like I did and actualy find out you like the girl for something else besides her good looks, and also if you want to make shit easier for the break ups and move on all you got to do is for the most part go into a realation ship thinking that although there is a possiblity the realationship will last that odds are youll break up that way you dont get let down when you break up. OK thats my 60cents im done good luck with sorting all of this shit out and you got to try to not think shit out so much man and go with the flow.

Im sorry, but I never quite got the idea of renaming people online. Like, you do realise that the internet has an inherited sense of obscurity, right?

quote:Originally posted by devilsAngel:

no actually, your lifestyle is rather like every other person i know to some extent.

as much as we would like to be "different" most teenagers live similar lives to some extent/aspect. we just don't like admitting it. :P

Wow, I wish I lived where you do, around here, only my friends are really anything like me. Almost everybody here is really preppy or a hick.

And I've decided to distance myself from A, at least until she isn't with J anymore. I think that today I'll write her a letter that tells her all that stuff about how I don't think that I'm gonna get over her if we stay how we are. I'm not quite sure if I'll try to get something going with S though. Like I said, I'm mostly just physically attracted to her.

At least I didn't use SWIM for every name...

Those are some nice problems to have. Tell me, how does one go about getting a girlfriend at 15? Because I really don't have any idea.

quote:Originally posted by SublimeZen124:



Yeah, it is a lot, but I'm not exactly the average 15 year old high school student. I'm a vegetarian for moral reasons, I like to paint, write poetry/songs, read, and get the shit kicked out of me in mosh pits, then go to school on Monday and try to maintain straight A's. According to my IQ, which I think is bullshit, but I still agree with, I'm halfway between average and genius. In case you haven't caught on yet, I also tend to over think things. And for some reason, I like to waste my potential by smoking too much weed and not caring about my future.

In short, I'm not very normal. [/QUOTE]

wow, you sound a lot like me. im 14, vegetarian for moral reasons, consider myself pretty smart and just think philosophy most of the day. I also waste all possible potential on smoking weed, and don't think more then ten minutes from now, yet i still maintain and A-average, which my friends all give me shit about. Too bad about the girl issues, but I'm not sure what it is you're contemplating. You obviously don't want to get back together with "A" because she seems like she really hit you hard, and why not just hit up S for a while. Just because you're going out with someone doesn't mean you have to, or even have to consider having anything real with them in the future. I can understand not wanting to be with a shitty person, but you say she's pretty decent. All i can really see is that you still seem pretty hung up on A, so maybe thats what you should be dealing with

wow...the similarities between me when I was 14-15 (i'm 17 now) and you guys is uncanny...I broke up with my first true girlfriend after 9 months also, weird.

Well, 3 years later and nothings really changed as far as my love life is concerned...sex at parties is empty and meaningless but I guess it's better than nothing, at times...

I have although realized that for the most part the girls at my school are superficial, skin deep ditz's. So I just don't bother...my best advice is just meet girls at places that require intellect, record stores are great.

Let's see the figures here, I live in a town of 30,000. That means about 15,000 women. About half are single (7,500). I want a girl that's between 14 and 19, so let's divide 70 (general age of the oldest people) by five year increments, that's 14. I'm in the same age group as one 14th of the population. That's about 536. I'm 98th percentile for my intelligence in the united states, I'd settle for 85%. So 15% of 536 is 81. There are about 81 girls, ages 14 to 19, that I could maybe be compatible with. Hmm... that sounds pretty good.

as one of my bros on another board said:

stop being a pussy and start degrading chicks.

lets be honest, the only reason you want a steady at this point is to fuck. if you could get it anytime you wanted it, youd give a shit less about A.

let it go and start hammering other girls.

Umm, not so much. I'd rather have a meaningful relationship, but if I can't have that, I wouldn't mind bedding S, but I'm not sure if that's really me. I don't really know much about myself sexually, considering I've only had sex with A.

i didnt read the whole thread, just the first couple of posts, but from what i've read it sounds like A is a bitch who deserves to be slapped. She's a cunt who wants a badboy, someone who doesn't write poetry, but someone who will fuck her the first month, she wants a fucking hot guy. She was tired of you so she wanted to get a hot guy to fuck, and when she breaks up she's going to be all sad and be like aw no I loved him(the cunt should be saying cock though)

let me start over

cunt(A) wants a hot guy, not a poet, J sucks, go fuck S, and write a poem about it.