this is the reply i was going to give to the 'sex is meaningless' post on here. it branched out into another topic i think would be nice to bounce off the board. so having set it up, here it is:

sex has no meaning, in and of itself.

and you know why women hate that sex is so commonplace today? women want to use sex as a reward. if you can get it from some other girl, theres no reason to hop through hoops for theres. hence they might have to bring something else to the table. women are used to being chased and wanted just for being there. when thats not enough, it really fucks with them.

try telling the next girl you fuck no the first time they want to get down. you will see them disintergrate before your eyes. while guys have been conditioned to accept no women havent. this one word brings up alot of insecurity in women.

the humiliation, the slap on your self esteem, the shock to an already vulnerable position, its a world breaker. for the uniniated.

its a great way to get on even footing early on too. letting them know you wont pavlov out on them when they get down to there panties makes them respect you.

i think at least half the problem with women now is they have been more or less immune to alot of the humbleing stuff in life. defeat creates charecter and grit. guys always having to put it out there from day one, getting totally destroyed from a girl in middle school.... it part of what makes us unbreakable.

id say its also a decent reason for the serial killers among us, but thats for a different time.

Hmm... interesting, but what if its the guy that awards the femalf with sex for doing something good?

There are guys like that out there, after breaking down a females mind they just fuck them all over and just mess them up.

But as for me, I try to keep my libido in check, although it does run away from me everyonce in a while.

Are you "mrman(plus numbers I forget)"? Your point of view and "writing style" is quite similar.

quote:Originally posted by Nihilism:

the humiliation, the slap on your self esteem, the shock to an already vulnerable position, its a world breaker. for the uniniated.





What does "uniniated" mean, and if it's a typo, what word were you trying to type?

[This message has been edited by deadlycindy (edited 04-25-2004).]

I believe the password is "uninitiated".

Girls lack crackbone. Mutual respect is something to have. We're all liable to be self centered & thereby selfish, even to end up hurting our self interest.

is it really Nihil or is it a fake - Spiffy?

Dude, really, really good point. It works like a charm. The majority of girls (those who have 4 limbs) use sex as some kind of lure also, what i dont get is that somehow they are in control of the sex but the men are in control of everything else (money, dinner, buying condoms) shouldn't it be made fair by allowing guys to either split the responsibilities fairly or have all or none of them. That way they can't take advantage of us because they are lucky.

I guess the two different goals we can acheive here are either more sex in a longterm relationship (or less if you play it badly) or the position of power and decision about sex to the guy. It seems obvious to me that the reason guys are doing this, is because we're generally hornier and stronger thanks to tesosterone. A guy going through puberty will probably be more assertive due to testosterone, and more likely to initiate the sex life. Hence women are put in a position to use and abuse the power we just handover. We bust our balls making them happy as being the providers has also been bred into us. We give them exactly what they want and due to greed, they take it and ask for more. Human nature.

I apologise for my ramblings, re-reading is never a good thing.

GIRLS ARE GAY.

only when we're lucky, damn lesbians rock

I think in many respects you are absolutally correct, sir. See, [and i believe this was already said] men initiate the sex. They WANT it more than we do, in general. Therefore, we're in a position to refuse. Men don't say no to sex, unless they're waiting for marriage - and in that case, most women wouldn't try anyway. We KNOW that sex is a powerful tool to get what we want. I don't use it myself; i think sex only belongs in a relationship where you have MUTUAL respect and admiration, and in that kind of relationship, theres no place for sex as a tool because he wouldn't demand it anyway.

we = equaling females in general, this doesnt apply to all.

quote:Originally posted by Chibi Shinigami:

I think in many respects you are absolutally correct, sir. See, [and i believe this was already said] men initiate the sex. They WANT it more than we do, in general. Therefore, we're in a position to refuse. Men don't say no to sex, unless they're waiting for marriage - and in that case, most women wouldn't try anyway. We KNOW that sex is a powerful tool to get what we want. I don't use it myself; i think sex only belongs in a relationship where you have MUTUAL respect and admiration, and in that kind of relationship, theres no place for sex as a tool because he wouldn't demand it anyway.

we = equaling females in general, this doesnt apply to all.

what you are doing is using sex as a tool, as a tool to tie a man to yourself in a "relationship". thats not exactly uncommon, bitches know a "relationship" is a wonderful sexual leash that allows them to reap benefit after benefit at the males expense.

Seems to me that all of you guys who have posted here already know the answer. Isn't it really simple....really? But here's one girls suggestions, anyway:

1) I don't feel sorry for you guys. That's because, EXCEPT FOR THE POWER OF "SEXUAL PURSUASION", you guys (not us girls) are the unequaled and undisputed "winners". So don't be so selfish.....don't begrudge us girls our single, one and only tower of power called sexual pursuasion!!

2) The only reason our tower of power works is that we have what you want, and you think you should have what you want when and how you want it, and JUST BECAUSE you want it. On the other hand, though we may also want what you've got, we can easily be patient, because we know time is on our side, and we know we can and will get it.

3) So, guys, the solution is in your hands: (A) Want it less, or (B) wait for it more patiently, or (C) earn it by "investing" in your target girl with things like warmth, caring, humor, fun, and meaningful gifts and surprises.

4) If you don't want to make this investment, then the only hope for you is to find a F...Buddy, (which won't be easy for most of you to find.)

Sorry to have to give you this dose of reality, guys, but I hope it helps you understand. Love, Venus.

^^^you're right pp, which is why guys should start holding out. Personally, I think that denying some egotistical slut from sex is muuuuuch more satisfying than a lousy fuck. Just knowing that they know that a guy exists that wont stick their dick in them and the massive blow to their ego that is just makes my day.

I think that guys just have to ask themselves, "is sex really that good?" Although the answer is yes, it doesn't mean that it is something that we can't live without. Guys mourning over how they can't get laid is exactly what gives females their power. Don't be sad that you can't get laid, have some goddamn self respect and deal.

quote:Originally posted by pretty pinay:

Seems to me that all of you guys who have posted here already know the answer. Isn't it really simple....really? But here's one girls suggestions, anyway:

1) I don't feel sorry for you guys. That's because, EXCEPT FOR THE POWER OF "SEXUAL PURSUASION", you guys (not us girls) are the unequaled and undisputed "winners". So don't be so selfish.....don't begrudge us girls our single, one and only tower of power called sexual pursuasion!!

2) The only reason our tower of power works is that we have what you want, and you think you should have what you want when and how you want it, and JUST BECAUSE you want it. On the other hand, though we may also want what you've got, we can easily be patient, because we know time is on our side, and we know we can and will get it.

3) So, guys, the solution is in your hands: (A) Want it less, or (B) wait for it more patiently, or (C) earn it by "investing" in your target girl with things like warmth, caring, humor, fun, and meaningful gifts and surprises.

4) If you don't want to make this investment, then the only hope for you is to find a F...Buddy, (which won't be easy for most of you to find.)

Sorry to have to give you this dose of reality, guys, but I hope it helps you understand. Love, Venus.

2)the only reason women can hold sex over mens heads is because we have a sex drive. women have a take it or leave it biological need for sex and thus they can try to be barter whores. its supply and demand.

3) or D) being smart enough and a good enough actor to get sex anyway.

4) fuck buddies are not at all hard to find or maintain. the most difficult part about a fuck buddy is the constant need for renewal because pussy gets old real fast.

along those lines, read the last sentence and take it to heart. your bravado over that "tower of power" has a life span like a fruit fly. you might get us to waste our time acting like you dont suck, but only for a little while. once we fuck you, its over. you no longer have that to hold over our heads and go back to your role of worthless. so perhaps you cunts who gleefully bask in this power should step away from it and realize that you might want to grow a personality, because holding sex over guys doesnt work for every guy and doesnt last for any guy.

quote:Originally posted by mrman383:

...once we fuck you, its over. you no longer have that to hold over our heads and go back to your role of worthless...

Not true. The prospect of more sex keeps guys on the leash.

quote:Originally posted by Little Pea:

Not true. The prospect of more sex keeps guys on the leash.

funny, because i blew off 2 sure things last night and didnt go after another. why? because ive fucked them and i wanted to do other things more than i wanted to hook up with either or them. would i have made that same decision for new pussy? not a chance.

quote:Originally posted by mrman383:

funny, because i blew off 2 sure things last night and didnt go after another. why? because ive fucked them and i wanted to do other things more than i wanted to hook up with either or them. would i have made that same decision for new pussy? not a chance.

Then again, you're a very unique individual. That is, unique in a way most females are thankful for.

Very well said, p-pinay.

quote:Originally posted by deadlycindy:

[B] Then again, you're a very unique individual...B]

Truely.

quote:Originally posted by Little Pea:

Truely.

not at all. my survey size may only range a few hundred guys in my age range, but i see the vast majority doing the same thing i did. that pussy is there anytime, why bother changing fun plans in order to get it when i can go out, have a blast and have the opportunity for new pussy? its hardly showing all that much restraint. infact, the 2 guys i went to philly with last night both left town with easy fucks at the party i was picked up at. a 3rd friend stayed. why? because he had 2 girls there that wanted to fuck him but he had not yet fucked. he stayed, one of them slept over and he had his fun.