Ok...This is my first message under this username...I have some things i need to say and questions i need to ask...I've been told by an online friend who goes to this board that this place is as raw as they come when it comes to talking straight about sex...And right now i need some straight talkers and some opinions on what i should do to get my life onto track...

The past two years i've been living one giant lie and i can't live it anymore...It's time to fess up to the truth and confront it.

I have a story and if you care to hear it then thank you...

After fifth grade i was pulled out of elementary school because of a problem...A birth defect.

The birth defect...A smaller than average penis along with a pee hole that was on the side of my penis instead of the top.

After several surgeries i have finaly had it fixed...Since i was but 12 i have been battling to get it fixed and finaly now at the age of 17 i can say that i am normal...At least in one way...The pee hole has been fixed and moved to the top but I still have a smaller than average penis and limp i measure in at just under an inch...And at full erection i measure in at just under four inches closer to three and a half.

Through all the surgeries and the social seclusion i had one friend through most of the years and one girlfriend who was one year younger than i.

Last year my girlfriend stopped speaking to me...Kinda left me without giving a reason...Hell we never even had sex...But i guess that all the stuff i had done i had no time to really spend with her.

Six months ago i hooked up with a new group of friends and i hang out with them often...Most of them are two years younger than i and all have had sex on numerous ocastions as they had told...I sharing stories of my own tell them of the many girls i have slept with...And they believe me...They think i'm a fucking phenom considering the things i've told them...Problem is...I've never had sex before...Only kissed a girl once...And i'm 17...Being homeschooled...I never had time to go out and meet girls...And now hearing all the stories my friends tell...And all the lies i tell back...It's starting to get to me...Hell it's killing me...A 17 year old virgin...And the thing is i would try to meet girls...But something is holding me back.

My size is what is holding me back...Hell i envy guys with 5 inches whereas most would taunt them and call that small...I only have 3.7 at the very most...And my current urologist says i'm normal and on top of that he reccomends that i not try any kind of penis enlargement due to my work i have had done...Too bad i just really don't feel like i am normal.

I feel even if i get a girl into bed with me she's gonna take one look at my thing and laugh and just tell me she can do better.

On top of that i really don't have much confidence in myself as the only thing i'm any good at is swordfighting and self enlightment through meditation but anyone can do that...I don't have any facial deformalities or cosmetic deformalities...Everyone i know says i'm a real handsome dude...I have long brown hair and i'm 5,11 and i look at myself in the mirror and even i think i'm decent looking.

But the problem is simple...I'm just concerned about turning 18 and being a virgin who probaly won't ever get any considering my size...I just don't feel like i could satisfy any woman with what i've got.

Can anyone maybe help me?

Maybe tell me something i can do to help myself?

I don't even know what i'm asking for...But could someone maybe give me a little advice on how i should go about getting a girl to accept my handicap?

Hell i don't know...I just need help.

quote:Originally posted by CanOfScrewz:

Ok...This is my first message under this username...I have some things i need to say and questions i need to ask...I've been told by an online friend who goes to this board that this place is as raw as they come when it comes to talking straight about sex...And right now i need some straight talkers and some opinions on what i should do to get my life onto track...

The past two years i've been living one giant lie and i can't live it anymore...It's time to fess up to the truth and confront it.

I have a story and if you care to hear it then thank you...

After fifth grade i was pulled out of elementary school because of a problem...A birth defect.

The birth defect...A smaller than average penis along with a pee hole that was on the side of my penis instead of the top.

After several surgeries i have finaly had it fixed...Since i was but 12 i have been battling to get it fixed and finaly now at the age of 17 i can say that i am normal...At least in one way...The pee hole has been fixed and moved to the top but I still have a smaller than average penis and limp i measure in at just under an inch...And at full erection i measure in at just under four inches closer to three and a half.

Through all the surgeries and the social seclusion i had one friend through most of the years and one girlfriend who was one year younger than i.

Last year my girlfriend stopped speaking to me...Kinda left me without giving a reason...Hell we never even had sex...But i guess that all the stuff i had done i had no time to really spend with her.

Six months ago i hooked up with a new group of friends and i hang out with them often...Most of them are two years younger than i and all have had sex on numerous ocastions as they had told...I sharing stories of my own tell them of the many girls i have slept with...And they believe me...They think i'm a fucking phenom considering the things i've told them...Problem is...I've never had sex before...Only kissed a girl once...And i'm 17...Being homeschooled...I never had time to go out and meet girls...And now hearing all the stories my friends tell...And all the lies i tell back...It's starting to get to me...Hell it's killing me...A 17 year old virgin...And the thing is i would try to meet girls...But something is holding me back.

My size is what is holding me back...Hell i envy guys with 5 inches whereas most would taunt them and call that small...I only have 3.7 at the very most...And my current urologist says i'm normal and on top of that he reccomends that i not try any kind of penis enlargement due to my work i have had done...Too bad i just really don't feel like i am normal.

I feel even if i get a girl into bed with me she's gonna take one look at my thing and laugh and just tell me she can do better.

On top of that i really don't have much confidence in myself as the only thing i'm any good at is swordfighting and self enlightment through meditation but anyone can do that...I don't have any facial deformalities or cosmetic deformalities...Everyone i know says i'm a real handsome dude...I have long brown hair and i'm 5,11 and i look at myself in the mirror and even i think i'm decent looking.

But the problem is simple...I'm just concerned about turning 18 and being a virgin who probaly won't ever get any considering my size...I just don't feel like i could satisfy any woman with what i've got.

Can anyone maybe help me?

Maybe tell me something i can do to help myself?

I don't even know what i'm asking for...But could someone maybe give me a little advice on how i should go about getting a girl to accept my handicap?

Hell i don't know...I just need help.



I think you fucked up by lying like that, its going to cat5ch up to you later definatly. When your at a party or drunk or something. I have one ball. I'm self concious about it, but not that much anymore I learned to get over it. For a while I was telling people I was waiting until I got married to have sex, just because I was so embarassed. Now i just say fuck it. I got a girlfreind. had a few since then. Everythings gravy. You just need to not be so self concious. Realize its something noone can see. hope that helps.

as i've said on another post, it's not the size that matters, it's what you do with your tool.

and besides, it's really society/media that says being a 17 yr old virgin is bad, don't rush it too much, find the right girl and you'll enjoy it more.

tho i do agree that lying about your experiences is a definite bad thing. so what if you have less experience? if your friends can't accept that then they're not true friends. besides, most people enjoy getting the opportunity to corrupt their friends (in a purely helpful fun way of course, not to get them in trouble)

yeah i dont see why you would want to lie about your virginity. i'm 19 and still a virgin....and i just so happen to meet a girl who found that attractive....and we plan on having sex in a matter of weeks. about your size...dont feel bad about it, but dont lie about it...simply, when the relationship between you and your potential sex partner is open and confortable enough, talk about your birth defect and your size, then ask her if it will be a problem...if she says yeah...then she doesnt deserve a guy like you.....just know that many other men have your size, if not smaller, yet they all have a wife they fuck 4-6 times per week (statistic average)....so just be patient during your teenage years and early 20's when your problem will be most difficult to deal with

If your friends believed your tales of sexual prowess, either they don't know any better or you know more about it than you think. In any case, just quit talking about it. No need to justify it or anything. Find other things to talk about.

Read The Penis Faq (http://www.totse.com/en/ego/self_improvement/164201.html). You're not what would be considered "abnormal". So you're going to have to cultivate a personality and learn how to please a woman creatively. Big deal, piece of cake.

Honestly, you're making mountains out of molehills. Not to belittle your plight, but we've seen worse circumstances in this forum.

And it's pretty normal that, being homeschooled and having "health issues", you don't have the same social experiences as the "average teen". Plenty of guys are virgins into their 20s.

Here's a question. With all the shit you have had done to your dick, is it really that good of an idea to be going out and having sex anyways?

Anyways I dun take your story as the stone cold truth, a lot of it seems messe up. Such as you never had friends because you were homeschooled, but you got pulled out of elementary school at 5th grade. Also why would you get pulled out of school at 5th grade for a penis problem? Peeing out the side of your dick seems like a big problem to me, either they woulda fixed that when you were younger, or figured you could take care of it when you got older. Not to mention you refer to it as your "pee hole" the entire time, I am sure you have heard a more official name to call it if you are really trying to get help and not just laughed at. Also just outta curiosity are you from the US (or an english speaking country)? Because your spelling doesn't really seem like it. I know a lot of people's spelling is off, but it annoys me when people try to sound smart by using bigger words then mess them up.

quote:I feel even if i get a girl into bed with me she's gonna take one look at my thing and laugh

Not to shoot down your self-esteem or anything but there is a good chance that is going to happen. You have a small dick, get over it. Find a chick that is going to like you for your personality (i.e. an ugly one) .

All you really need is self confidence, dude. That's what's really important. I've know a pretty small guy who had a cute girlfriend for over a year. I'm sorry about your situation, i dont know what to tell you about your lies. You shouldnt have done it, but to tell the truth i wouldnt fess up if i were you. If you get a girlfriend, i'd definitely tell her the truth, but the fact is your sex life (or lack thereof) is no ones business but your own, and almost everyone lies about sex anyway. That doesnt excuse it, but it's understandable. And for the record, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a 17 year old virgin, and don't let any asshole tell you there is.

give the guy a break he has a deformed cock lik he is gunna be honst about it.

He would get hell at school. Prolly end up toppin himself.

Anyways dude i wouldnt worry as much as u are if its any concelation i was a virgin at 18 and who cares people like u will nd up with a nice, sweet caring girlfriends and thats what u want right.

I think if your penis looks normal now but small dont worry some people only have 4 inches without a defect. Hll asians prolly only have 4 inches.

Anyways chicks wont say anything about your size. They may form an oppinion in there head but thy wont say anything.

whn th tim comes i would tell th chick about it before she sees it for herself.

I cant imagin how u feel man if u where ovr here i tell my bitches to fuck u silly.

As long as it looks ok u should be fine.

Bleiv or not dcnt woman dont care about your dick they care about u. And thats th type of woman u want. No one wants a dumb slut that only stays with th biggst dick.

Some guys ar tiny and stillplease ladies so it definately possible.

On day man dont u worry and if u get impatient go to a hooker.

hell i did'nt lose my virginity til i was gone 18..(made up for lost time tho' hee hee!)

as to the size of your dick....don't sound that small.ok you ain't ever gonna be a porn star but thats about the only thing you'll lose out on.

there are some comestic ops that can at least make your cock seem bigger but how well they work ihave no idea.

believe it or not there are women who find small penises very sexy.....(a former girlfriend's ex was so tiny they could only have anal sex !)

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quote:Originally posted by CanOfScrewz:

A 17 year old virgin...And the thing is i would try to meet girls...But something is holding me back.

My size is what is holding me back...Hell i envy guys with 5 inches whereas most would taunt them and call that small...I only have 3.7 at the very most

I had sex when I was 14 and I have a 7 inch cock. Harhar

quote:Originally posted by LuvBuds:

give the guy a break he has a deformed cock lik he is gunna be honst about it.

He would get hell at school. Prolly end up toppin himself.



If he wants an honest reply he should be honest about what is going on with him. Why would he get hell at school? Unless he uses that as a conversation starter, "I have a birth defect which gives me a small penis with my pee hole on the side" how often is that going to come up? How many times did you get asked about your penis in 5th grade? I dun even know what that last sentence means toppin himself?

Ok if you are that concerned and I dont think you should be just go to a decent prostitute. Im not saying his as a flame and not saying you should pay for sex but talk to her and ask her to look at it. I can assure you there are alot of people out there smaller than you.

And the whole thing about size..Well it doesnt matter.

I mean its all a myth even the whole black thing. Yes some blacks have bigger dicks but the biggest on record is a white guys. Im engaged to a black girl who constantly tells me Im big though I know Im just a little over average but she says this and other things just like I tell her things to make each other feel good. But I know I please her just as she knows she pleases me and size isnt whats doing that at all. Its what I do with it and what she does in return that makes for a good sexual relationship.

Ummm, as long as you arent planing on fucking one of your friends, just stop telling stories. find a nice gf, and get to really like her and then tell her about your predicament.

quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

I had sex when I was 14 and I have a 7 inch cock. Harhar

WOW!!!! someone give this guy a medal!

dude, that sucks. you can tell them if you want, they'll probably make fun of you behind your back though because you lied to them about that. You might as well just find some new friends if your not gonna continue lying.

canofscrewz -its a dead cert all your mates have been telling you porkies as well.don't sweat it...all lads do it

quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

I had sex when I was 14 and I have a 7 inch cock. Harhar

people like you shouldnt be alive.

as for the problem at hand; it's not a problem. firstly, i have a friend who's almost 19, and like it was said earlier, it doesnt matter how old you are. depending on if you're looking for a quick shag, or to make love to somebody. if a girl is going to laugh at you because you have a medical defect, then she has a brain defect. it's as simple as that. do you really want to have sex with somebody who's as shallow as that?

i dont think you have anything to worry about. chin up dude!

quote:Originally posted by NewRage:

Here's a question. With all the shit you have had done to your dick, is it really that good of an idea to be going out and having sex anyways?

Anyways I dun take your story as the stone cold truth, a lot of it seems messe up. Such as you never had friends because you were homeschooled, but you got pulled out of elementary school at 5th grade. Also why would you get pulled out of school at 5th grade for a penis problem? Peeing out the side of your dick seems like a big problem to me, either they woulda fixed that when you were younger, or figured you could take care of it when you got older.

first who doesn't want to have sex.

second unless he's trolling, which i doubt, why would he bother to come here and lie, his story seems plausible enough to me

finally they probably waited until he was in fifth grade because it was necessary to do the operation, i'm no doctor and neither are you so you're not in much of a position to judge.



So far as the 4 inch thing goes it could get a bit bigger during moments of intense arousal, ie sexual contact. Not much but a bit never hurt. If you want to make it bigger you could shave your pubes, if that's not your thing trim them real short, cut down the forest and the tree looks bigger so to say.

You might want to look into that Encyte (sp? maybe enzyte) "male enhancement" supplement. I remember someone on TOTSE saying that shit was magic.

Since you're a virgin just find yourself a nice virgin girl who cares more about you than about getting laid. If she really cares for you your somewhat smaller than average penis probably won't bother her and if it does she can fuck off. Besides that if she's a virgin she won't know how big a cock is supposed to be. If you're still concerned about your sexual performance become adept at oral and fingering, lot's of girls don't get off during sex cause their partners are chumps who can't keep it up. But they won't complain if you give them a heart stopping orgasm prior to engaging in the act, besides that after the first orgasm a girl becomes more sensitive making it easier for her to cum again.

anyhow it's time for me to eat. Don't worry about your tool bud, there's plenty of options, and it's not thaaaat small.

It could be Worse (http://dwoloz.users.phenominet.com/bad/5049_1.jpg)

quote:Originally posted by bushy:

It could be Worse (http://dwoloz.users.phenominet.com/bad/5049_1.jpg)

Omg! What the fuck is that???

Hmmm.. A few random thoughts I as having while reading this story:

"Holy crap! My thumb is almost bigger than his dick!"

If his dick was that short, is it possible that he could have sex without breaking the girl's hymen? That would be pretty...interesting...

Well, since you're already well-versed in lying... might as well continue weaving the web of deceit. Confessing at this point will accomplish two goals, it will piss off the people you've lied to and make them mistrust you from here on, and it will relieve some of the guilt you're feeling (useless). Forget about it, learn to be honest in the future.. it will help in the long run.

I don't suppose you have small hands by any chance? You could always forewarn your potential lover that because of your small hands, jacking off (your monster-size dick)was uncomfortable so you had a penis reduction. Just a thought.

Don't worry about sex before 18... great if it happens but not a big fucking deal. I was a virgin until I was 20. Plenty of non-intercourse related activity, but because of getting braces on my teeth at age 18, and being a stupid self-conscious little introvert it was the way the cards fell for me. In the long run I think it's made my libido stronger as I'm always thinking about sex. Starting at 20, and being 45 I have no regrets... lots of experience and never a dull moment.

If you're a good looking dude, you can capitalize on other aspects of pleasing a woman. Get informed and good at oral sex. Look at the bright side... you probably won't have to worry about teeth scraping your dick (during a bj), believe me, it's not a good feeling. Eating pussy is fun, and girls love it, get good at it. If you have/develop a good personality and concentrate on foreplay tactics and emotional responsiveness your smaller than average penis can be less of a problem than you're making it.

Sometimes a girl just wants to be fucked good and hard. You might (or might not) fall short, depending on her requirements... but there's a lot of good women out there that will appreciate your good qualities, find them and have a good time. Life is short, it's meant for living. Hope I've helped.

-Extant

quote:Originally posted by Aunt Jemima:

Omg! What the fuck is that???

Its a penis with a birth defect.

quote:Originally posted by bushy:

It could be Worse (http://dwoloz.users.phenominet.com/bad/5049_1.jpg)

lmao!

to tell you the truth, size does matter, but only when it comes to sex. you can still find a girl and she will not judge you on your penis size. the girlfriend i have now, didn't even get to see my penis when we first had sex(we were in my car and it was dark out), i just caught her this morning looking at my dick after sex(it was kindof of funny seeing her looking at it). dont worry about it and live your life and stop the lying and make the stories come real. good luck!

normally a woman gets off on about 3.5-4 inches of penetration. that is what she can feel sexually. i don't like to post that cause every woman will say it's not true, but it is. that distance can vary based on position.

length becomes important when you have positions that don't allow all of the cock to penetrate. also, longer cocks stimulate the entire "active zone" for a longer duration during a stroke, but that is not as big a deal.

my point is you're not fucked. just realize you need to focus on certain positions that allow for deep penetration. missionary with her butt propped up on a pillow and legs up is good. doggie is good too. you will have to avoid side entry stuff and the more exotic positions.

having said that, you will find girls that want size. however, there is someone that can be satisfied by you. fine tune your oral skills and find a girl that will appreciate you.

most important, you have to come to terms with this on your own. it is you, just deal. get to the point that you could say "fuck you bitch" to any girl that gives you shit about it and just move on.

quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

I had sex when I was 14 and I have a 7 inch cock. Harhar

that's nothing to be proud of, somehow that's kinda low. But I have no room to poke fun at you.. cut that age in half and you have where I first had sex.....

Addendum: Easy Going is right. Just learn to do it doggy style and you have from what I know to be the best stimulating position.

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quote:Originally posted by Mahimaki:

cut that age in half and you have where I first had sex.....

bullshit.

i wish i had had sex when i was 14, instead i was 17. i also with i had a 7 inch cock, instead mines 6 inches. i just fall short of you. i kindof like how i waited though, i was in love and she was in love with me and it was on a trampoline and perfect..kindof...ahhhh memories. i just had sex last last and this morning...beat that.

quote:Originally posted by Son of Northern Darkness:

I had sex when I was 14 and I have a 7 inch cock. Harhar

The average dog fucks for the first time at 8 months.

You were 13 years and 4 months late.

quote:Originally posted by SBTlauien:

bullshit.



I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true, I am in no way proud of it, but I felt I had to upstage him for how he put it.

Yes, I had sex at 7 years old. On the playground, in a tire structure, with a girl named ... second thought, name shouldnt be said.

It all balanced out, at that time in school I was considered "gay" because I hung out with the girls most of the time. *nyah* to my elementary school days.

is it possible to get an erection at age 7?

ROLFMAO

That is exactly what somegirl had said to me when I disclosed that fact to her for she was proud that she was fifteen and had oral sex and intercourse with a nineteen yearold in another state.

Just the kind of response and stuff i wanted to hear.

Almost all things said minus a couple rather crude comments really make a lot of sense to me and i'm starting to think that maybe i don't have it as bad as i thought i did.

Thanks to everyone who helped me by posting what they know in this topic.

I'm really feeling a lot better...Plus one of my friends knows this dude who's sorta a pimp...He's got some money up and since i bought the weed last time he's gonna pay for the "services" of his two favorite girls for us pretty soon.(both 16)

But maybe not...On one hand i think i should wait for the right girl...But on the other my horny bastard side says to just do it and have fun.

Eh...What happens...Happens i guess...Thanks again to all who helped me out.