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Old 2004-02-26, 00:00
JaneDoe34 JaneDoe34 is offline
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Default Yes, but would you still love her?

I have been going out with this guy for about three months ( and yes i am a girl ). He is the love of my life, and yesterday the most disturbing, disgusting fucking NASTY thing ever happened.

Last night my boyfriend and i were having the best sex ever, and i know that he is really turned on by anal sex. We've already discussed this, and for anatomical reasons, it doesn't work out. So he stuck his fingers up there, and when i came, i came so hard that i crapped myself. i didn't know it, until the smell hit me, and then i'm like "oh shit..you did not just fucking do that..." So i got up to make sure that nothing got on the couch or anything, and i went into the bathroom. i locked myself in there, and started to clean up. I stayed in the shower for awhile and then i just couldn't take it anymore, and i broke down and started to cry.

Now let me make something perfectly clear: we are both not into scat and do NOT get off on shitting on each other. i couldn't stop crying, and i was so fucking disgusted with myself that i just cried in the shower, and tried not to think about that gagging smell. I knew i was clean, but i still felt so very dirty...and i got out and put my clothes on.

My boyfriend tried to hold me, but i just did not want to be touched. Like i would give him a nasty disease or something. i told him i was sorry (i couldn't even look at him it hurt so bad) and that i had to leave ( i only lived on the next floor up in our dorm so it wasn't that far ).

When i got upstairs i locked my door, grabbed the six pack in my fridge, and jumped into the shower again, slamming drinks as fast as i could, with the water so hot it was burning my goddamned skin.

When i got out of the shower for the second time, there was a knock at the door, and my boyfriend was there. i let him in and we sat down and talked for a bit. I expected him to call me a nasty, dirty fucking bitch. That is what i felt like: That is what i expected. But instead he just held me, and wiped away me tears and told me that it was alright as i sobbed, and told him that i was sorry over and over...He told me that he had fixed everything, and that the only thing left to fix was me, that he had failed to do that when i had left.

I guess what i have to say is this: It is all good and fine to love someone at their best. It is swell when people smile, laugh and have a good time. But for anyone that has ever held someone at their worst (puking, tripping on an O.D. or otherwise fucked up) maybe you can try to understand a little bit better.

Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?

Would you leave her if she got pregnant?

Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?

Would you accept it if she got raped and did not want to be touched again?

For now just be glad that this didn't happen to you i guess. But someday something may happen to you (perhaps not the same thing, but maybe something worse). How strong could you be? How much would your love be for a person at their absolute worst?
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Old 2004-02-26, 00:25
deadlycindy deadlycindy is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

It takes a good amount of maturity for one person not to hold another person's bodily functions against them. I don't much mess with the anal department, but be aware that those who do have learned to "prepare" themselves appropriately. So I think you were way too hard on yourself.

I've even seen the young people here hold their bf/gf's hand through suicide attempts and rough times. Some are more ready/equipped to handle challenges than others.

I keep telling my bf I'd stay with him even if he blew his face and all his limbs off. He's into pyro chemistry, so he just might hold me to that someday. He's stayed with me through a couple of issues, so I'd never leave him.
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Old 2004-02-26, 00:40
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?

I am currently single and, knowing myself as I do I don't think I'd put up with that. Being truly honest here, unless it was really true love(kind of hard to find at the age of 16), then I probably wouldn´t. Now before you flame me about this, I could say I'd love her all the same but I choose to be honest.

quote:Would you leave her if she got pregnant?

Absolutely not. This is something I see differently. If I ever did that to a girl, then I'd take on the responsability. Just the thought brings up, like, an inner call to manhood. Laugh as much as you wish, I don't really care, but I think a situation like this would only bring us closer. Well it would bring me closer...

quote:Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?

Would you accept it if she got raped and did not want to be touched again?

And again, from my limited point of view, in me she would only find love and support.

I am not perfect, nor do I expect anyone to be. These reactions are what I feel I would do. Maybe I'd react differently when faced with them, but either way I've done my best to keep it accurate.
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Old 2004-02-26, 00:55
deadlycindy deadlycindy is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by JaneDoe34:



Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?



These sorts of issues are serious health problems. It's difficult enough for those in committed long-term relationships and marriages to deal with these things. I'd be surprised if anyone under 30 could even comprehend such illnesses.
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Old 2004-02-26, 01:09
JaneDoe34 JaneDoe34 is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

There is nothing wrong with being honest about what you would do in that situation. Like you said, and least you weren't like: "Oh sure... i would stand by her forever..." and be full of bullshit. I sure as hell would not have been that committed at 16...but here i am 20, and up until 3 months ago i didn't feel that way about ANYBODY.

You got points by me for saying what you really feel, and not just what makes people happy.
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Old 2004-02-26, 02:22
Timothy Thomas ' Timothy Thomas ' is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

I havn't laughed this hard in weeks.
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Old 2004-02-26, 02:31
Der Führer Der Führer is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

If some bitch shit on my fingers she'd be packing her bags.
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Old 2004-02-26, 03:01
Lazzaro Lazzaro is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by JaneDoe34:

Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?



Yeah. I have done it with a girlfriend before. If anything it made me love her more. Not in some fucked up ass way either. Just because I came so close to losing her, and she's still here, and I have the privelige to help her out. I like helping people through there tough times.

I have never failed. Though some day I might and if I do, well shit on me. [no pun intendeed]

[This message has been edited by Lazzaro (edited 02-26-2004).]
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Old 2004-02-26, 03:49
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Hon, don't listen to these idiots (I'm not referring to cindy).. particularly the dumbass that said he'd send his "bitch" packing. Most likely his sexual experience encompasses his mom walking in on him wanking, surprised him, made him jizz on the carpet instead of the paper towel he set up.. and sent him packing.

Anyone with a lot of experience in sexual relations is going to tell you the same thing I'm about to tell you. There will be embarassing moments. Lots of opportunities for them the more you practice. Your boyfriend instinctively sensed this by his reactions. During orgasm your body is very vulnerable to letting go.. like what happened to you. Sure, it's embarassing as hell, makes you feel like shit, but if you had perfect control over your bodily functions you probably wouldn't experience that same level of orgasm. It will pass, and the unity you and your BF gain from the experience will make you closer. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

As you get older and more experienced you'll learn to know what to expect from your body better, and those moments will be much less likely to happen. It's part of learning your sexuality, that's all. Be happy you had a BF that is understanding and was there for you, not like the fucktard posting earlier... it's all good.

-Extant
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Old 2004-02-26, 04:03
AprenticeChemist AprenticeChemist is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by JaneDoe34:



Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?

Would you leave her if she got pregnant?

Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?

Would you accept it if she got raped and did not want to be touched again?

For now just be glad that this didn't happen to you i guess. But someday something may happen to you (perhaps not the same thing, but maybe something worse). How strong could you be? How much would your love be for a person at their absolute worst?

Yes id still love her if she got cancer, I have no clue what the second one is put if she gained 40lbs id still love her, anyone that leaves a girl they got pregnet should have their nuts cut off because they need to get some responsibility, I would hold her if she tried to kill her self I would do this for almost any friend or anyone that I even remotly knew, and id accept the fact she got raped and could never touch her but I wouldn't be able to touch her even if she wanted to because id end up in prison for murder or extreme assult and battery on who ever did it to her, this summer my love will be put to the test when I have to take alot of risks just to see her and be with her because her step mom and dad are very very protective and told me id rot in hell before I talk or see her but I know I will see her since im going to talk to her this weekend. If you would stop loving someone just because they looked different then it isn't true love if you don't love someone because theyve completly changed then it may be love, true love knows no bounds.
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Old 2004-02-26, 04:10
Evolution of A Saint Evolution of A Saint is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by JaneDoe34:



Would you leave her if she got pregnant?



Fuck yeah i did....OH WAIT...that wasn't my baby she got pregnant with...that makes it ok right?
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Old 2004-02-26, 06:18
Der Führer Der Führer is offline
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quote:Originally posted by Extant:

Hon, don't listen to these idiots (I'm not referring to cindy).. particularly the dumbass that said he'd send his "bitch" packing. Most likely his sexual experience encompasses his mom walking in on him wanking, surprised him, made him jizz on the carpet instead of the paper towel he set up.. and sent him packing.

Anyone with a lot of experience in sexual relations is going to tell you the same thing I'm about to tell you. There will be embarassing moments. Lots of opportunities for them the more you practice. Your boyfriend instinctively sensed this by his reactions. During orgasm your body is very vulnerable to letting go.. like what happened to you. Sure, it's embarassing as hell, makes you feel like shit, but if you had perfect control over your bodily functions you probably wouldn't experience that same level of orgasm. It will pass, and the unity you and your BF gain from the experience will make you closer. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

As you get older and more experienced you'll learn to know what to expect from your body better, and those moments will be much less likely to happen. It's part of learning your sexuality, that's all. Be happy you had a BF that is understanding and was there for you, not like the fucktard posting earlier... it's all good.

-Extant

Wow, I'm catching shit from this pussy too. Why are you reliving your childhood/teenage memories through me? Please do not replace yourself with me at anytime. I do not wish to be subject to your odd, and outrageous fantasies and or accidents involving; 1. Siblings, 2. Parents, 3. Any form of domestic animal, and 4. You're grandparents. That is absolutely horrid. I was just being a smartass about "shitsonthumb" or whoever. It's a message board, should she really be taking sexual advice from teenagers, and net whores? If your answer was no, you are 100% correct. If you answered anything else... Your idiocy pains humanity. So please, do me a favor, and shut the fuck up. K, thanks!

I also left out 5 through 9 which ended up being 5. wild animals, 6. transvestites/hermaphrodites/homosexuals any other "oddity." 7. Children (mostly boys.) 8. Extreme S&M, 9. Sheisse porn. (maybe you and "shitfreely" should get to know one another.)

The terms "shitfreely" and "shitsonthumb" are used for humor, not to be confused with insults.

[This message has been edited by Der Führer (edited 02-26-2004).]
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Old 2004-02-26, 06:50
Yoshtov Yoshtov is offline
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quote:Originally posted by JaneDoe34:

Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?

Would you leave her if she got pregnant?

Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?

Would you accept it if she got raped and did not want to be touched again?I like a girl, Alex, and I can say with a great deal of conviction "yes" to all of these statements. What's even more shocking, especially to myself, is that I have poured out approx. 5 years of love to her, and I have gotten nothing in return. Not even a short hello or a "How are you" (one or two exceptions).

Don't you dare say "get over her" because you don't love her in the way that I do. That's why you don't understand. I can't just give up.
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Old 2004-02-26, 07:04
JaneDoe34 JaneDoe34 is offline
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Oh my God, i cannot beleive how witty you are Furher! You must date a fucking super model and must get all the bitches huh? I bet you never had an embarassing moment, been humiliated, or dealt with something uncomfortable in your entire life, did you? i bet you never cried before because it is not cool, or told anyone how you really felt because they might call you were a homo. Well there will come a time when you DO have to deal with a problem, and i would laugh my ass off to see it happen.

Now do i really want sexual advice from teenagers and "net whores"? I've seen some pretty mature teens before, that can pose a respectable question and carry a decent conversation. You on the other hand were probably one of those little kids that yelled "Penis" out loud in class and fell on the floor from laughing so hard.

you're a dick-head. k thanks
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Old 2004-02-26, 07:27
AprenticeChemist AprenticeChemist is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by Yoshtov:

Originally posted by JaneDoe34:

Would you still love her if she got cancer and all of her hair fell out?

Would you still love her if the doctor found out that she got hypothyroidism and gained 40 pounds?

Would you leave her if she got pregnant?

Would you hold her if she tried to kill herself?

Would you accept it if she got raped and did not want to be touched again?I like a girl, Alex, and I can say with a great deal of conviction "yes" to all of these statements. What's even more shocking, especially to myself, is that I have poured out approx. 5 years of love to her, and I have gotten nothing in return. Not even a short hello or a "How are you" (one or two exceptions).

Don't you dare say "get over her" because you don't love her in the way that I do. That's why you don't understand. I can't just give up.



Well sorry but this sounds like an obsesion that you should get over. And unless your going to go try to say hi to her or something then you should just give it up and there is a difference between love an obsession and you may really really like her but its more of an obsession unless you actually go over to her and say hi. If you've already tried to talk to her and she rejected you then its pathetic to keep droning over her. And fuher your a dumb ass she wasn't asking for advice she was just asking a question, and you don't got to be such a dick hole, and from your username I get that your a neo nazi so you should know that hitler had sexual relations with his neice who was 10+ years younger then him and he made her deficat on him just thought you should know.
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Old 2004-02-26, 07:36
Der Führer Der Führer is offline
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^^^ Well, thanks for the verbal beating. I found it a tad weak, but still, you tried so darn hard. Maybe we can work on that later... Some teens are mature, but that doesn't mean they any knowledge about romance, relationships, and whatever. I was just giving you and Extant to an extent a little bit of shit. Lighten up? If you play it off, you'll not be as embarassed am I correct? I mean shit happens *no pun intended* and sex is meant to be somewhat dirty. More then likely your bf had no problem with it. I have no problem whatsoever with expressing my feelings. Am I not entitled to be a dick sometimes? I've gone through worse things (non and sexual) then leaving a skid mark on someones fingers. Maybe when I was a little kid (3rd-5th grade) I would yell "PENIS!!!" or something similar and laugh my ass off. You've been with your man for what? 3 months? Do you see yourself with him forever? Because if not, WHO GIVES A FUCK? The only thing remotely embarassing I can share about my sexual encounters is that I've fucked a condom into a chick, and off my dick. I was too fucked up to roll it up. Also, when I had a condom stuck to my dick and in the girls ass. Embarassing? I suppose. Do I care? No! You can flame me, or at least try. Just understand, I was giving you a hard time to get your mind off of the situation. I mean seriously, what were you thinking about while writing that post directed at me? I think it was ME! So, did I not direct your thoughts away from embarassment, and towards a fight? Once again, I was JK but I had fun with the weak flame war. Please dont bring up my dick head though. Ok then, bye bye now.
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Old 2004-02-26, 07:51
Der Führer Der Führer is offline
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My above post was intended for JaneDoe34.

Aprentice, you are the smegma from George W. Bushs' nutsack and most likely around the inside of the ass, and head of the penis. You reak of stinky human cheese, and you're a moron. Just because my name is Der Führer doesn't mean I'm a skinhead. They're just German words. (I'M THE LEADER!) is the same as (Ich bin Der Führer!) Stop being judgemental. Judging people based on their UserNames... That was ingenious! I mean, who BEFORE you has done that? Can you think of anyone off the top of your head? Well, then I guess you are a UNacist, and part of a new breed of lamers. I've never seen a decent flame war making fun of a UserName. Anyone proves me wrong, they get a cookie. Oh, and by the way. Hitlers relationship with his niece, are you sure you want to get on this subject? I'll let you start. PROVE TO ME that Geli shat on him. Do that, and you win a cookie.

[This message has been edited by Der Führer (edited 02-26-2004).]
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Old 2004-02-26, 08:14
AprenticeChemist AprenticeChemist is offline
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Default Re: Yes, but would you still love her?

quote:Originally posted by Der Führer:

My above post was intended for JaneDoe34.

Aprentice, you are the smegma from George W. Bushs' nutsack and most likely around the inside of the ass, and head of the penis. You reak of stinky human cheese, and you're a moron. Just because my name is Der Führer doesn't mean I'm a skinhead. They're just German words. (I'M THE LEADER!) is the same as (Ich bin Der Führer!) Stop being judgemental. Judging people based on their UserNames... That was ingenious! I mean, who BEFORE you has done that? Can you think of anyone off the top of your head? Well, then I guess you are a UNacist, and part of a new breed of lamers. I've never seen a decent flame war making fun of a UserName. Anyone proves me wrong, they get a cookie. Oh, and by the way. Hitlers relationship with his niece, are you sure you want to get on this subject? I'll let you start. PROVE TO ME that Geli shat on him. Do that, and you win a cookie.

[This message has been edited by Der Führer (edited 02-26-2004).]

I said that I had the feeling you were a neo nazi I didn't say that you are definatly a nazi. And as for judgeing you for

your user name I wasn't judging you I was just saying that if your a nazi you should be one to talk with the sick ness of all those things you listed for that one person because of the stuff hitler did but since your not a nazi just forget what I said about it. Sorry for misjudging you about the nazi thing I realize that not all germans or those that use german words are nazis but there are a few nazis on totse so I wasn't sure if you were or not.
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Old 2004-02-26, 09:06
Der Führer Der Führer is offline
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^^^ Danke
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Old 2004-02-26, 09:18
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i cant understand what you mean, but thank you for bringing some realism and some real conviction to sex and affection... im sick of petty little hate affection stories
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Old 2004-03-01, 02:42
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Wow, if true love really does exist in this world, I think you have it.
 
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