why do sick people like me like seeing women get degraded in pornography?

i've got it, we see it as revenge for the kind of shit that happened to me tonight, we like to think of it as our pleasure at our enemy's pain.

people don't love eachother unless they're engaged or married, up until then, we're just two countries with bad relations, tango-ing, wrestling for power. you come on too strong, they back off, they back off too strong, their alleged concience gets them. so they back off lightly or dodge you and act like they don't know what happened.

but when i say, dodge you, i mean potentially, i know other people are ok, i'm just a puzzle peice that's too big right? which is a reason why others and i love to see the big beautiful picture formed by all the other perfectly crafted, TORN DOWN. we glory at their destruction, we luvs us watching those perfect, better than us pretty girls get reduced to sluts for te black cocks.

we love to see them humiliated, i almost found it funny when i met someone who was twenty three and already had four kids, almost. sometimes i wonder why i have such a heart for these fucks.

but then again, each side wants to win as much as eachother. to a man at war with a country, seeing one of it's soldier's humiliated is less bothersome than his own country, maybe even pleasureful. you've all seen full metal jacket.

if you've thought of a plan, your opposition may have already thought of you thinking about that plan. if your opposition is me, i've already thought it twice and filed it in order of likelihood amongst all of my other thoughts.

anyways i'm rambling so here's why i'm such a disrespectful little spite filled shit all the time: i meet a girl, she's pretty, she's nice, she's got everything going. i get to talking to her, i land in the friend zone, and i end up being her fucking social adviser until i realize that they don't care about me so i shouldn't care about them, i was a reassurance whore.

scenario B; they consider me a complete nerdz0rz. me getting to do anything, no matter how minor, i will always have about as good a chance as a paper cat in hell.

or in scenario C, we get to talkin, i use words that they don't understand, they get intimidated, so i stop and dumb down everything i say. then we get to serious talkin, i'm on the verge of doing something with them when they go, AWW fuck it, what was i thinking? that ugly compputer nerd?

they catch a glimpse of my beauty then it gets washed away by a glimpse of my physical form.

fine then. i've said it before, i can't wait till i'm a robot.

"i never knew anyone completely worthless until i finally met myself."-Fa'ad

cue song:santeria by sublime

ive told you time and time before, and ill tell you again. life is what you make of it. you get OUT of someting, what you put IN to it. relationships are EXACTLY the same way

nothing is EVER going to happen for you. why? because you dont think it will. you dont want to believe that something good will come of it all. you want to feel sympathy for yourself because you reject it from all those who have cared about you. youve had girl that liked you, i know, youve told me about them. and what did you do? you ditched them. they cared about you, even LOVED you, but you just threw them out, not wanting anything to do with themm and you blindy pursued what you thought you wanted. and now my friend, you know how it feels to have the same thing happen to you. everything comes back to you in the end. like i said, you get what you give.



"but its just SO fucking easy for you to SAY that shit. you have NO idea what it feels like!"

of course its fucking easy to say it. yknow why? because ive been thru it. you have to fight the battles before you become the commander.



"Tru_Souljer, you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about"

yes, your probably right. im just making all this shit up in an effort to humiliate you. after all, its all a big ploy just to give you more shit. pull your goddamn head out of your ass and do DO SOMETHING about it. it didnt work out? big fucking deal. keep at it, try again. find another girl you like even more and go for her. its not difficult, if you just stick with it.

...or, go home and hide in the fucking corner and feel sorry for yourself. either way, its your life, and youre gonna be the one that go thru it

ts

Hey congrats fa'ad you learned one of adolescence’s little life lessons.

Unfortunately, it sounds like you're failed experiences with women are turning you into a twisted, sadistic little man. You know what you do when you fall down? You get your lazy ass back up. Stop thinking about the time you last fell, and start thinking about the next time you're gonna make it. Tru is right man, you get what you give.

Life is a roll of the dice, it's true. But a positive outlook won't hurt the roll at all.



-Nocuous

i would call you tru.

wasn't it you who said you'll always be confused and wonder if she really couldnt talk or not because you want to think she was telling the truth?

wasn't it you who told me not to be fooled?

and then you told me to "do what my heart feels." my heart feels confused, thank you, and i don't know if i should be sarcastic or not.

i am not using my normal screen name cause she keeps ignoring me on my regular one.

PrincessLuvsPapi: hey is this [edit]?

: hey whos this?

PrincessLuvsPapi: no one. no one at all.

: this is farhad

PrincessLuvsPapi: surprise.

: surprizr!

: yea im having elliot probs

PrincessLuvsPapi: yea?

: yea what

PrincessLuvsPapi: you are?

: yea

PrincessLuvsPapi: don't look up and to the left.

: y

PrincessLuvsPapi: don't worry.

PrincessLuvsPapi: why not talk to me though?

: cuz were tlking

PrincessLuvsPapi: what would the difference be between not talking to me on my other sn and not talking to me on this one?

: the other ones colors creep me out

PrincessLuvsPapi: good one, but you're a bright person, you could've came up with something better than that.

: im serious yo

PrincessLuvsPapi: listen to me now if you're ever going to listen to me in your entire life.

: k

PrincessLuvsPapi: if you didn't want to be around me, if you don't want to see me, if you are afraid to be seen with me, say so. nothing can hurt me more than being patronized.

: thats not it at all

: y wud that be it?

: some times its hard to talkt to u cuz you use big senteces and words

PrincessLuvsPapi: so this is why you didn't want to be around me?

: not be around u

: talk online.......... u think u cud act stupid?

PrincessLuvsPapi: i think i could talk like you, but i don't think that would be acting stupid.

: hmmm

PrincessLuvsPapi: one thing i don't understand, you didn't want to go to the movies but you said you did, what's up with that?

: i did wanna go

PrincessLuvsPapi: until you had a chrisis which involved you talking to other people on aim and stopping talking to me, for hours your AIM status didnt go idle.

PrincessLuvsPapi: and here i was yesterday, trying to busy myself while i put my life on hold for hours so you could handle this "chrisis"

: huh.... ya no i dont no y yer mad at me

PrincessLuvsPapi: it's hard to be mad at you, if i was mad at you i'd have to be mad at everyone else too, you just don't wanna be around me. don't think you're the first.

: i do tho!

: ur smooth lol

: like with that letter........ "u gonna ask out that hot guy in the black and grey shirt"

: lol that was so kool

~let me clarify this part for you, i was wearing a black and grey shirt when i gave her that note.~

PrincessLuvsPapi: smoothness may go a long way, but it does next to nothing when you look like i do. i'm less sad for myself and more happy for you, you don't have to feel like that.

: looks????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????

: u look fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: whats rong with it?

: explain!

PrincessLuvsPapi: my heart hurts.

: y......

PrincessLuvsPapi: i don't mean my heart, i mean i'm getting a sinking feeling in my stomach.

: y?

PrincessLuvsPapi: shit... i came down here just so i could meet you.

: i se u tomrw

: !

PrincessLuvsPapi: no you wont. i have to leave tomorrow.

signed off at 11:58:12 PM.

then what tru? try again next weekend? fuck you. just fuck you. you really think you're the grandmaster of love and you've been through it all? i shit on your theories and philosophies.

so what do the rest of you say?

when i live far she goes yeah i'll meet you this weekend, then i come down and i'm like hey i'm here, i came from LA so i could go to one [fucking] movie with you.

then all of a sudden, brb chrisis (translates to gotta not talk to you)

then she blames my colors, which are a soft grey, and a deep, but not too deep blue to match with the color that it looks like when my name is displayed, pretty much the most mellow colors you've seen.

then she says i use words too complex for her, which i have no recollection of because i was specifically trying not to be a nerd.

i se u tomrw! sure you will honey, just put my life on hold some more.

what would the rest of you judge?

Relax man. A lot High School chicks are like that. Melodramatic and totally retarded sometimes. You think that's bad? Trust me, I've been played with a lot worse. The only thing you can do now is keep trying. Maybe not with this melodramatic psycho-bitch but there are tons of girls out there man.

Yeah, yeah, life sucks. What can ya do about it?

-Nocuous

Find a girl where you dont need to 'dumb' down your conversation with man. If you try you will feel like crap. The relationship will fail, and you will wonder once again why nothing went the right way.

Point: Try not to try so hard on girls that may seem worth it but arent. It'll get better. Look for intelligent girls.

quote:Originally posted by redemption:

Find a girl where you dont need to 'dumb' down your conversation with man. If you try you will feel like crap. The relationship will fail, and you will wonder once again why nothing went the right way.

Point: Try not to try so hard on girls that may seem worth it but arent. It'll get better. Look for intelligent girls.

In all honesty I would rather be in a relationship with an intelligent girl [and not just smart as in does good in school] than a beautiful one. The trick is finding a girl who is intelligent like that [I, for one, can count the number of girls I've met In Real Life who fit that criteria on one hand].

Any clues, especially if you're some kid in high school who doesn't have a car?

<I know it's a hijack, but it's a good hijack>

If I believed it was possible to be too aware for your own good, you would be a prime example, fa'ad.

As much as I dislike the idea of propping up your ego, you're obviously above the norm in terms of intelligence, and you know it. Your problem revolves solely around your companions. You're dealing with normal girls that have normal brains and, at the age and experience level we're talking about, have NO fucking clue what they want, what they're doing, or how they're fucking you over. Been there, done that. It sucks.

That doesn't mean you don't have to deal with it. For now, this is how it is. You can do much more with yourself than become an angry, jaded little fuck. But to do that, you have to be aware of why these girls you're dealing with now aren't worth your time or effort, regardless of how lonely you may feel. The ones you've dealt with have all been wankers, but that's because H.S. girls, no matter how smart or insightful, are not going to give the ugly duckling a second look unless he does something that really gets their attention.

So what to do?

One idea is to say the hell with girls for awhile- a long while. If any try to talk to you, don't necessarily push them away, but don't chase. Hell, don't initiate conversations with anyone you don't have to, or at least that you don't really, really want to talk to. More and more of them will catch up to where you're at as time passes. Forget the idea of gaining experience now; it does you no good to have all that experience be of a negative nature.

Alternately, you could hit the weight room and become a dreamboat for a lot of girls. It doesn't matter if you don't have a perfect face- if you're ripped and smart, members of the fairer sex will drool over you endlessly, especially in high school. It's nice, but it has downsides too, namely that having several girls to pick from is going to make it harder to find one that will actually like you or be smart enough for you and doesn't just want dick. There's nothing wrong with getting laid, of course, but since you seem to want more and would be capable of getting it, you would soon feel again like something's missing.

You could mix the two- concentrate on improving yourself mentally and physically, and let the girls come to you. Only let the ones you feel are worth your time in. That's the best idea for the long run, but it's also the most difficult to stick with. I think you could do it, but you'd have to want to do it first.

Or you could sail along as you have been, falling for this girl or that, and winding up in continual misery until you see all women as nothing but unscrupulous bitches that will do anything to fuck over every man they come across. It's not a fun road to travel, but you wouldn't be the first. Hell, you'd probably find more company down that path than any other, although you wouldn't like any of them much.

It's been said already that maybe you're getting a taste of your own medicine after rejecting that one girl. It's good for you to know what that's like, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't say no to anyone. If you're not interested, you're not. Turn her away (and follow your own request to the girl in the above conversation- be straight up about it, no games). But for now, you're going to be on the rejected end a lot more often. You either wait for everyone to mature, or you do something to change yourself so that you start drawing the girls in.

I have little doubt you can succeed in whatever you want to do. I just hope you don't get too full of yourself in the process.

quote:Originally posted by nocuous:

Relax man. A lot High School chicks are like that. Melodramatic and totally retarded sometimes. You think that's bad? Trust me, I've been played with a lot worse. The only thing you can do now is keep trying. Maybe not with this melodramatic psycho-bitch but there are tons of girls out there man.

Yeah, yeah, life sucks. What can ya do about it?

-Nocuous

What Noc said. Find a girl that seems to be on the same level of intelligence as you. Trust me, they're out there. Sometimes it just takes some looking. Not all girls are blonde, airheaded idiots (yes, I'm blonde so I can say that without backlash) who's vocabulary consists solely of "like, omg! that was like... OMG!" Whatever, you know what I'm talking about.

Don't try to hide your true self in order to impress someone, because you'll only end up hurting yourself in the end. And you'll find a great girl one day, no worries.

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:



they catch a glimpse of my beauty then it gets washed away by a glimpse of my physical form.



If I was a girl, I'd fuck you. But I'm not.

It's an accepted theory that serial murderers hunt and kill in order to fulfill a fantasy. You see, they've got a fantasy built in their mind that results in an desirable emotional effect-it's this fantasy that drives them to kill, but the emotional results of this fantasy are so fantastic that they can never be reproduced outside their mind no matter how perfectly they mimic the physical act. Thus they are compelled to kill again and again.

I see the same problem with you; the fantasy is a person that lives up to, and perhaps exceeds, these outrageous standards that you have created. You may not beleive that these standards are too much, but then again, the mind can convince itself of anything. I think that a key for you to be happy (and live a healthy lifestyle) is to do away with such standards and appreciate the strengths of each individual- whether it be something like their overall intelligence, their affability, their patience, their aesthetic qualities, or any number of other traits- focus and latch on to one of those, and you may be able to eventually do it without thinking, once you can do that, well, you may find that you don't even see the "cons" of someone's personality. You've become too self-righteous for your own good, and it's only going to get worse. If you view everyone as a lesser being once you decide that they aren't as smart as you (the very act of which makes you look ignorant and narcissitic) then what can you expect but for them to walk away from you?

fa'ad I'm just like you in a way.. Came over from europe (not to be stereotypical, just..well you know) and it seems that every single girl here is too fucking stupid to understand any of the shit that's going on. I chat with women in their mid twenties and they make the assumption that I'm their age. What I'm saying is, that regardless of what you hope or see in movies, girls this age will fuck you over - they don't see you standing in the corner, they don't think one day "oh my god... i've been in love with him all this time" they will not come to your door and apologize for fucking with your head. I have stopped talking to girls at my high school and concentrate primarily on improving my body and my mind (through writing papers for example) like spiffy said. You, my friend, are the calamities of intelligence, if you want to exchange some funky stories shoot me a note, looks like we have some stuff in common.



on a sidenote - I just watch porn to get off dude.. damn

[This message has been edited by Geenie (edited 02-01-2004).]

fa'ad, I don't think either one of us has ever responded to each other in a thread, so consider this a first.

The truth is... deal with it. You may think that I'm just being lazy by saying this, but the absolute truth is that this is about the only way for people like you (and me, because I know exactly what you're saying) to "solve" things.

Why?

College is a much better avenue of choice... as long as you go to college, or know college people. I don't know what happens, but for some reason, a degree granting institution makes everyone grow up a little more. I was the nerdiest geekiest fucker you'd ever see in high school. Didn't have a girlfriend or a date once. Went to college, and boom. I started dating "preppy" girls. It was amazing. There are no social classes in college.

quote:Originally posted by redemption:

Find a girl where you dont need to 'dumb' down your conversation with man. If you try you will feel like crap. The relationship will fail, and you will wonder once again why nothing went the right way.

Point: Try not to try so hard on girls that may seem worth it but arent. It'll get better. Look for intelligent girls.

been there tried that, any girl who is intelligent is always self centered, when girls get a little superiority over eachother, they turn into superbitch.

you know the quote, give a man some power and his true personality will come out.

quote:Originally posted by Spiffy McBang:



I have little doubt you can succeed in whatever you want to do. I just hope you don't get too full of yourself in the process.

i feel bad now cause that was helpful but not insulting, the exact way i wanted the reply, i feel like i'm being choosy in what to believe, not fair and balanced, but that just seems downright correct.

"BAH!"-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by Pacman:

It's an accepted theory that serial murderers hunt and kill in order to fulfill a fantasy. You see, they've got a fantasy built in their mind that results in an desirable emotional effect-it's this fantasy that drives them to kill, but the emotional results of this fantasy are so fantastic that they can never be reproduced outside their mind no matter how perfectly they mimic the physical act. Thus they are compelled to kill again and again.

I see the same problem with you; the fantasy is a person that lives up to, and perhaps exceeds, these outrageous standards that you have created. You may not beleive that these standards are too much, but then again, the mind can convince itself of anything. I think that a key for you to be happy (and live a healthy lifestyle) is to do away with such standards and appreciate the strengths of each individual- whether it be something like their overall intelligence, their affability, their patience, their aesthetic qualities, or any number of other traits- focus and latch on to one of those, and you may be able to eventually do it without thinking, once you can do that, well, you may find that you don't even see the "cons" of someone's personality. You've become too self-righteous for your own good, and it's only going to get worse. If you view everyone as a lesser being once you decide that they aren't as smart as you (the very act of which makes you look ignorant and narcissitic) then what can you expect but for them to walk away from you?

dude i learned my lesson on intelligence a long ass time ago, it was very emotional, it didn't hurt me but it was a great reconciliation. i learned that dumb people are people too. and that was a hard motherfucking fact of life, but not so hard as it was profound.

quote:Originally posted by Trueborn Vorpal:

fa'ad, I don't think either one of us has ever responded to each other in a thread, so consider this a first.

The truth is... deal with it. You may think that I'm just being lazy by saying this, but the absolute truth is that this is about the only way for people like you (and me, because I know exactly what you're saying) to "solve" things.

Why?

College is a much better avenue of choice... as long as you go to college, or know college people. I don't know what happens, but for some reason, a degree granting institution makes everyone grow up a little more. I was the nerdiest geekiest fucker you'd ever see in high school. Didn't have a girlfriend or a date once. Went to college, and boom. I started dating "preppy" girls. It was amazing. There are no social classes in college.

veeery interesting...so what you're saying is i should hit on college chicks and hope they're paedophiles? that sounds like it could lead to some serious trouble.