What are some good ways for a male to seduce the female?

she has to want you first, seems to be a problem for me....

Taken from this thread. (http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum4/HTML/004588.html)

quote:Originally posted by Easy Going:

I agree with the "she has to have some attraction to you" part, but either she does or she does not. You can create it with seduction, but unless a girl is a novice or vulnerable in some way (rebound...) the touching/eye contact is not going to make her sexually attracted to you.

I do not normally post this because it is seen as controversial here, but here are some tips on a possibly successful slow approach. (leave your morals at the door or just move on)

1. hot and cold: you cannot always be mr nice guy. mix it up to mess with her head and make her think about you. you want to make her experience every emotion possible EXCEPT BOREDOM. boredom is death to a seduction. you need to take her on an emotional rollercoaster and not let her have any clue what is coming next. NICE ALL THE TIME IS BORING

2. leave her wanting more: do not let her end every convo on the phone or in person. do not always be available for whatever. say no sometimes just to say no.

3. mystery: do not explain everything and do not make sense on occasion. not all the time. on occasion.

4. be human: let her occasionally see an ugly side of you. maybe helpless. maybe rage. maybe despair. whatever. give her a chance to feel superior and nurturing. then later it was just a phase and you are over it.

5. absence makes the heart grow fonder: once she is getting hooked, take a bit of a break. it does not have to ever be explained or you can do so vaguely (mystery).

6. most important is confidence and attitude: do not wonder if she likes you or if whatever is working. just assume it, and assume she will respond how you wish. that is how you portray the right attitude.

7. once you have her head spinning, make a move as bold as possible.

-Easy

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^^^lol. It depends on what you want from her. If you just want puusy, then I think that Easy's formula would work decently (although that is a lot of work for some pussy); but if you want a relationship then be yourself, just the best of yourself. And I agree wth Easy in that boringness kills seduction.

As a girl, I think Easygoing has the most promising design or formula,for a successful "seduction" --- especially items 2, 6, and don't forget item 7. It's item 7 that lots of guys forget, yet without that follow through, when the moment is right and ripe, all his effort will likely be wasted! And to LittlePea: No, I think it's not even half as much work as I see the guys usually go through -- doing different, and sometimes really stupid and ineffetive things, which usually don't take him where he really wants to go! (hee hee)!! What EasyGoing's formula really amounts to is simply getting a different ATTITUDE, and a little more CONFIDENCE!! Love, Venus.

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well i think i can tell you because i have some experience on this subject, not to brag. Last night i hooked up with a girl that i had never met before. Basically what you need is confidence that you can please this girl. You need to act like you do and talk to her like you do, but dont be arrogant because that just makes you look like a fool. For example, last night, a bunch of people were dancing in the corner of the room and i saw a girl i thought was pretty hot so i just went up to her and was like 'hey whats goin on can i join in' or something like that. and i started dancing with her. like 1 minute lagter i started running my fingers through her hair (girls like that) and was blowing in her ear and stuff, she was pretty much mine after we were done dancing and i could leave, go chill with my friends and come back like 10 minutes later and just started kissing her and it was no big deal. So anyways, yea, be confident, I guess i am pretty aggressive but it seems to work on 95% of the girls ive ever went after, except for this one bitchy polish girl, but i wont get into that.

Remember to please her first, ie massages and all that and she will be more than willing to please you.

1,2,5,7 from Easy.

Easy's post seems to be sound advice and has everything I would suggest.

So I will just agree with what he said!

quote:Originally posted by pretty pinay:

And to LittlePea: No, I think it's not even half as much work as I see the guys usually go through -- doing different, and sometimes really stupid and ineffetive things, which usually don't take him where he really wants to go!



Very good point...sad bastards. hehe

I must say that I am impressed with the reaction to my post. Often when I post stuff like that, people come out to say that game playing is evil or something like that. That post was off the top of my head. Here is more for you, if you are interested, taken from Robert Greene’s The Art of Seduction:

1. Choose the Right Victim: Study your prey thoroughly. The right victims are those for whom you can fill a void. The perfect victim allows for the perfect chase.

2. Create a False Sense of Security-Approach Indirectly: The seduction should begin at an angle so that the target only gradually becomes aware of you. Haunt the periphery of your target’s life.

3. Send Mixed Signals: A mix of qualities suggests depth, which fascinates as it confuses.

4. Appear to Be an Object of Desire: Make your target hungry to posses you. It will become a point of vanity for them to become the preferred object of your attention.

5. Created a Need-Stir Anxiety and Discontent: A perfectly satisfied person cannot be seduced.

6. Master the Art of Insinuation: Create a sublanguage-bold statements followed by retraction and apology, banal talk combined with alluring glances. Make everything suggestive.

7. Enter their Spirit: Play by your targets’ rules. In doing so you will stroke their deep-rooted narcissism and lower their defenses.

8. Create Temptation: Lure the target by creating a glimpse of the pleasures to come.

9. Keep Them in Suspense: The moment people feel they know what to expect from you, your spell on them is broken. Give your victim a thrill with a sudden change of direction.

10. Use the Demonic Power of Words to Sow Confusion: The trick to making people listen is to say what they want to hear. Flatter them.

11. Pay Attention to Detail: Lofty words of love and grand gesture can be suspicious. The subtle gestures and the offhand things you do are often more charming.

12. Poeticize Your Presence: Intrigue your target by alternating an exciting presence with a cool distance, exuberant moments followed by calculated absences.

13. Disarm Through Strategic Weakness and Vulnerability: Too much maneuvering on your part may raise suspicion. The best way to cover your tracks is to make the other person feel superior and stronger.

14. Confuse Desire and Reality-Create the Perfect Illusion: Aim at secret wishes that have been thwarted or repressed, stirring up uncontrollable emotions, clouding a victim’s power of reason.

15. Isolated the Victim: Take your victims away from their normal milieu, friends, family, home. With no outside support, an isolated person is easily led astray.

16. Prove Yourself: One well-timed action that shows how far you are willing to go to win your victim will dispel doubts.

17. Effect a Regression: People who have experienced a certain type of pleasure in the past will try to repeat or relive it.

18. Stir Up the Transgressive and Taboo: People yearn to explore their dark side. Take your victim further than they imagined-the shared felling of guilt and complicity will create a powerful bond.

19. Use Spiritual Lures: Everyone has doubts and insecurities about their physical presence. Lure them out of their insecurities by making them focus on something sublime and spiritual.

20. Mix Pleasure with Pain: The greatest mistake in seduction is being too nice.

21. Give Them Space to Fall-The Pursuer is Pursued: Hint that you are growing bored. Seem interested in someone else. Create the illusion that the seducer is being seduced.

22. Use Physical Lures: Targets with active minds are dangerous. Put their minds gently to rest and waken their dormant senses by combining a nondefensive attitude with a charged sexual presence.

23. Master the Art of the Bold Move: Don’t give the victim time to consider the consequences. One person must go on the offensive, and it is you.

24. Beware the Aftereffects: Never let the other person take you for granted. Use absence, create pain and conflict, to keep the seduced on tenterhooks.

If you need any more info on any of the above, you can get the book.

-Easy

EG, stuff like what you posted initially works for one-nighters and shit like that. Lots of people do those, you're not an asshole for advising how to do that. This guy, though.. I haven't read the book, but it appears that all these steps are designed to make a long-term play for somebody. People who do that are generally asswipes, and worse yet, the ones who aren't wind up falling hard for the person they're seducing. That leaves them unable to keep the person at arm's length, as is necessary for all that bullshit to work, and then they find themselves in the highly uncomfortable role of the playee.

^In some respects you are very right. But a lot of those "principles" are at play in every normal relationship by accident. Identifying how the mind works in the ways of love just makes the process controllable. I posted a link to this book a long time ago in response to one of your posts, and I said that it was like learning how a magic trick is done. It allows you to do it, but it takes away the magic.

-Easy

I think Spiffy is right--better for the one-night stand than the long term "relationship".

But I am sorry to have to tell you guys something sad--an obvious fact you guys may not know (unbelievable!), or maybe that you have forgotten)---And it could be a problem for you after you read the book.

But it's only fair that you know......MOST girls NATURALLY, and ALMOST INSTINCTIVELY, (ie. without having to read that book)--- know and practice these techniques to "shape up" their guy "prey", to prepare him for their "sting", so they get whatever they want from him (most often NOT sex, but something else--hee hee).

Men, generally, must LEARN these book techniques ("book learning" they call it), whereas it's built right into the chromosomes (sp.?) of most girls. This fact makes "knowing your victim" even more important than the book would suggest.

So after reading the book, it's best to temper your confidence with a tiny bit of caution, OTHERWISE it may turn out different than the book says it was supposed to!! (hee hee)!! Love, Venus.

^LOL Miss Pretty! I was just saying the same thing to someone yesterday or the day before about how women use these techniques most of the time and guys never do.. However, I had a different conclusion. It is harder for them to work for women because they have so much competition. Too many girls try them. For guys, if you get half way decent at a few of them, you are really in a league by yourself and you are giving girls something they probably have never seen before. IMO, these techniques are actually more effective for guys unless they are way too obvious. Even then it could still work. It is just way more effort than most guys can make.

BTW, the same applies to guys dressing nice. Most girls dress nice so it is no big deal when one does, but a guy who has some style (or some help) will stand out.

-Easy

edit: It is really good to have you back as a regular, Miss Pretty! Your expertise was missed.



[This message has been edited by Easy Going (edited 10-06-2003).]