Okay, I met this girl in speech last year. Hot beyond words, talkative, affectionate, etc. We talked quite a lot on the bus rides to and from the meets, but I was always kinda frustrated because I knew she and I would never hook up. She was just out of my league, you know? Which is why I was so surprised when, one night coming home from a meet, she grabbed me and shoved her tongue in my mouth. Well hell, sweet! Unfortunately the next day... well, let's just say things got wierd and nothing came of it.

So the yeard ends, we go through summer, and in August I take up residence at the lovely University of Iowa. Then I get an email one day out of the blue. It's her, and she wants to be friends again - we'd lost contact over the summer, due to some events I'll come back to. So we've been talking, and she mentions in an email that she knew of "at least one girl who was interested" at the time of my departure. So me, being the dumbass I am, respond, Shit, tell me who. Eventually I weasel out that it was her - she was interested all along and ended up hooking up with my buddy Dan when I started going out with her friend Shawnna, in an attempt to get over it. So me, with a bellyful of bourbon and the courage it inspires, I ask her if these feelings remain. After a little verbal judo, I got her to admit that they do. Well, you wanna hook up next time I'm in town? Great idea, she says.

Perfect situation, right? I don't want a relationship, nor does she, we just wanna see what we were missing sexually. Having a fuck buddy for my routine visits home sounds like a swell idea to me.

Here's the rub. When her and Dan were dating, she cheated on him while he was in Europe. Now, it's important to remember that Dan was, at this time, fucking his ex's brains out in beautiful Greece. It could be argued that she was engaging in retaliatory infidelity. I don't care, we're just fuck buddies, and I certainly don't plan on remaining "faithful" to her. Still, it seems vaguely dishonorable fucking somebody who cheated on my buddy.

Now, I've already made up my mind, I'm gonna fuck this living goddess' tits off. But I wouldn't mind some opinions from the fine folks at S&A.

Sound's great. Why are you trying to put something bad in what is basically an ideal situation?

Armed I agree with jack on this one. Just go for it. You have a no strings attached fuck buddy. I can understand about the moral thing because she cheated on your friend. But if I read that right he was cheating on her at the same time. If you are that worried about it then bring it up to your friend first. But honestly if I was that friend and knew that you wanted her for a long time I would be happy for you that you are finally getting her.

Take Care,

Kangy

Well, on the other hand, the principles of stoicism would dictate... no, no, forget it. I'm going for it.

you've got a great situation... damn.

Christ, you're telling me! Not only do I get a rare second chance at something, that second chance involves sex with an attractive young lady I used to be obsessed with.

Out of respect for Dan, though, I think we're gonna keep it quiet so my friends back home don't catch wind of it.

My college buddies, on the other hand, have already told me to shut the hell up about it.

Bah.

Well, you seem to be in a very good situation, I'd definitely go for it. Have fun man.

Edit: spelling.

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good luck bro. if you just keep it as a friends with benefits thing you should be good to go. Just dont even think of it as your friends ex. just think of it as a hot girl that wants to screw.

He cheated on her, she cheated on him, blah blah blah...high school shit is irrelavent, it's ancient history... move in for the kill matey.

... though for some reason I doubt you'll remain so free-as-a-bird for very long if she's as bewful and luffly as you claim... you're gonna go ass-up in love, sucker!



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Confucious say, tag it.

just be careful, make sure she KNOWS that nothing else is going to come from it. friends, sex, thats it. make that very clear, otherwise it could get a little messy. girls tend to be more quick to think there's a relationship forming. then, you tell her it was just sex, she gets all hurt, and you feel like an asshole.

quote:Originally posted by EyeSore:

just be careful, make sure she KNOWS that nothing else is going to come from it. friends, sex, thats it. make that very clear, otherwise it could get a little messy. girls tend to be more quick to think there's a relationship forming. then, you tell her it was just sex, she gets all hurt, and you feel like an asshole.

Actually, she was the one to first stress that this wouldn't be a relationship thing. And I live two hundred miles away most of the time, visiting about once a month. I'm not worried. As for me falling for her... she has a long history of infidelity, and after years of getting my heart stomped on by fast girls, I've developed something of a resistance to meaningless infatuation. That which didn't kill me made me stronger.

*CLAPS*

SCORE. I just got an email from my mom telling me to call my dad (my phone is out). So I borrowed a cell, rang him up, and it turns out he's going up to Rochester tommorrow to see my sister in the homecoming parade. And he wanted to know if I wanted a ride. Hell yes! Now I just gotta call Veronica and make sure she's not in National Guard training this weekend, and we should be enjoying our first fuck buddy hookup. This week just keeps getting better.

moral quandry my ass. you just wanted to brag... i wish i could brag about something this cool. damn you.

It IS a moral quandary! Seriously, one of the key tenets of my moral code is that you cannot fuck a woman one of your buddies went out with. After they break up, she is anathema. As my pal Mahoney said today, "gots to maintain the code, brother."

But since you mentioned it, I'm gonna brag. I just talked to her online, and she's blocked off a couple hours from her homecoming schedule to, ahem, enjoy each other's company. Come on, gang, this is A&A. I've had to slave all my life under the idea that, to fuck a girl, you need to date her a while first. Damn, I say I've earned it, and the hell with you.

The easy answer (and most difficult solution) would be to discuss this with Dan.

Just fuck her in the ass and be done with it.

This way, you get your fun, but you also get to perform a vague kind of revenge on behalf of your friend to assuage your vague sense of guilt for fucking her in the first place.

Damn you and your damn morality, Mr. &Angry!!!

Making me use my brain now!

Serious though...That's a tough one!

If I were in that situation I would fuck her...She's not with my mate anymore and he cheated on her.

She not being with him gives anyone the right to have a purely sexual relationship with her as far as I'm concerned.

As for the cheating part...They cheated on each other...Sort of cancels each other out in a way.

They are my views on the subject!

quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

It IS a moral quandary! Seriously, one of the key tenets of my moral code is that you cannot fuck a woman one of your buddies went out with. After they break up, she is anathema. As my pal Mahoney said today, "gots to maintain the code, brother."

Dude, the code is for ex-girlfriends, not girls you/your buddy have screwed. Especially when she hooked up with your buddy to get over you. You're good to go.

quote:Originally posted by Armed&Angry:

But since you mentioned it, I'm gonna brag. I just talked to her online, and she's blocked off a couple hours from her homecoming schedule to, ahem, enjoy each other's company. Come on, gang, this is A&A. I've had to slave all my life under the idea that, to fuck a girl, you need to date her a while first. Damn, I say I've earned it, and the hell with you.

You don't need to date a girl for a while first. The most it's ever taken me was a week... though three hours is more the norm.