Here's the deal.

Work in a financial work place with LOTS of women. Got friendly with one in particular and is getting very friendly.

Problem, I am married and older than this girl. Never done it before (thought alot)

Should I or shouldn't I.

i'm assuming that you don't have an open relationsship

do you care about you wife?

if you don't really that much.. do it

otherwise.. what would you think if you wife did it with some younger guy?

if you have to ask the question,you already know the answer.

is everyone on totse ancient?

quote:Originally posted by pantagruelist:

if you have to ask the question,you already know the answer.

is everyone on totse ancient?

Quite the opposite actually...

Do it only if you're absolutely sure Miss Chummy will do something for you (sexually, of course) that your wife absolutely will not do. This could mean swallowing, anal, calling her "bitch" or wearing a private school uniform, or all of the above. If it's the same as you get at home, you're creating more problems than it's worth.

quote:Opportunity or Bad idea

Bad idea

Bad idea.

very bad idea

If you have kids absolutely not. If you don't you still got a bunch of moral, religious(if you are religious), and possibly legal issues with it. All in all probably a bad idea unless you are planing to divorce your wife.

[This message has been edited by Cloaked Dagger (edited 09-25-2003).]

you probably shouldn't have married in the first place, and if you don't already have kids, please, just get a vasectomy. If you do have kids, i suggest putting them up for adoption. their probably better off getting abused in foster homes than being raised under an absentee fuckstick like you.

please, think about something other than yourself, just this once.

you motherfucker.

quote:Originally posted by deadlycindy:

Do it only if you're absolutely sure Miss Chummy will do something for you (sexually, of course) that your wife absolutely will not do. This could mean swallowing, anal, calling her "bitch" or wearing a private school uniform, or all of the above. If it's the same as you get at home, you're creating more problems than it's worth.

Am I the only one who sees something seriously fuckin' wrong with this logic (opinion?)? You don't go marry someone, only to fuck around with someone else just because your wife won't give you a rimjob or whatnot. I'm not a bible-thumper either; I'm all for casual sex between unmarried folks, but god damn, when you marry a person, you chose that person, and shouldn't at all be fucking around. Your husband/wife could be the worst fuck ever, but that still gives you no right to cheat. No matter what you 30-something liberals have to say about it; marriage is a sacred institution that you shouldn't participate in if you don't want to stop being a whore.

-Infrared

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Am I the only one who sees something seriously fuckin' wrong

Just worry about what you think and let others speak for themselves.

quote:I'm not a bible-thumper either

Sure you are! See judgemental phrase below:

quote:I'm all for casual sex between unmarried folks, but god damn, when you marry a person, you chose that person, and shouldn't at all be fucking around.

I wouldn't, you wouldn't, but I don't give a fuck what other people do.

quote:Your husband/wife could be the worst fuck ever, but that still gives you no right to cheat.

Says you. Which doesn't make it true.

quote:marriage is a sacred institution that you shouldn't participate in if you don't want to stop being a whore.



Good grief, lighten up. And whores fuck for money.

Yes, and I do have a child. But I think it comes from the fact that I work in a place where there are literally 4 guys, and 67 girls. This one, whenever I run into her, is alway touching, ie back rubs, neck rubs, and a couple of days ago, she actually grabbed me. I am not dead, but she is pretty, and I am confused. Yes, I love my family, but in some way this is very exciting.

One other thing, my child is sick and my wife and I have had no time for each other, just work and take care of our kid.

Opportunity or Bad idea ???????

both

quote:Originally posted by deadlycindy:

Good grief, lighten up. And whores fuck for money.

A whore has no self-respect, either.

Cindy, thank you for being highly predictable in your responses. Understand that my post wasn't an attack on your person, just an objective criticism of your rationale, and I apologize if it sounded otherwise. Fine line, maybe, but I think you see my point.

You're a valuable totse member and all, but you're also a disloyal slut in my eyes, and therefore I have very little respect for you as a person. You're a witty one, though. And that was an analysis of your person.

So you can post again in some attempt to put me in my place because I'm nothing but a judgmental prick; it makes no difference. I stand by everything I said before.

As I said, thank you for being highly predictable in your responses. I'd have even less respect for you if you said anything different.

-Infrared





[This message has been edited by Infrared (edited 09-25-2003).]

"A whore is not a whore if she loves money, she is a whore if she loves dick."

-a friend of mine

Look godzillarulz, looks like your mind is already made up. Just make sure your wife NEVER finds out.

No I am not ancient, and yea, I know it's a fucking bad idea, but can you preach because you have never been in a situation where you had an opportunity to do something wrong?

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

You're a valuable totse member and all, but you're also a disloyal slut in my eyes, and therefore I have very little respect for you as a person.

WHOA. Back up a second.

Did you not see where she said, "I wouldn't, you wouldn't..."? All she's doing is not calling this guy a bad person because he's thinking about this. If you want to say something about her calling you judgmental, fine, whatever, but at no point in either thread regarding this topic has she said it's ok for someone to do this. All she's said (and I've echoed it) is that there are reasons people would, and that it might behoove some people to take a step back and look at the possibilities.

In this instance, I can see no good outcome from this, barring a miracle of some sort. But this is another case of someone who undoubtedly cares for his wife and child, yet is tempted because the basic needs that nature keeps kicking us to take care of have had to be put aside for some reason.

ofcourse it's intrestin.. duh.. but you mean you've never been tempted before??

and maybe ever thought it's smarter to FIND some time for you wife?

quote:Originally posted by godzillarulz:

Yes, and I do have a child. But I think it comes from the fact that I work in a place where there are literally 4 guys, and 67 girls. This one, whenever I run into her, is alway touching, ie back rubs, neck rubs, and a couple of days ago, she actually grabbed me. I am not dead, but she is pretty, and I am confused. Yes, I love my family, but in some way this is very exciting.

your a disgrace to marriage, just divorce now and save yourself alot of time. Im dead serious, what a weak and idiotic man you are, worthless...

quote:Originally posted by godzillarulz:

No I am not ancient, and yea, I know it's a fucking bad idea, but can you preach because you have never been in a situation where you had an opportunity to do something wrong?

your... married??? with kids you say???

(nothing but pity, nothing but pity)

just another sad story

General update.

Have taken Careful consideration of all of your replies and just talked to X.

I have asked her to keep our relationship professional and no more touching.

She just smiled and walked away.

P.S. I also got a babysitter and am taking my wife to dinner and a movie.

Also , hopefully you do not ever have to be in this position since you are all so morally superior.

You made a good choice. My dad was in the same situation but he went ahead and did it, many times. I'm not mad about it but I did lose some respect for him for the way it made my mom feel. I can't speak for your kids but you have to consider how your kids would feel.

Thanks.

Yea, my daughter was one of the considerations.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

disloyal

So wrong. I've learned the hard way, true, but I've forgotten more ways to be loyal than you'll ever learn.

quote: slut

Yeah, so?

quote:therefore I have very little respect for you as a person.

Right back at ya. I guess we won't be fucking any time soon.

Aren't you the guy in Bad Ideas that goes around committing home invasions at every given opportunity? Quite a hypocritical high horse you're on there. When you elevate yourself above "cheap hood" status, you might gain some credibility.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

I steal quietly across the yard, and slip over the wall, into whichever neighbor's yard I feel like exploring at the moment. I'll go into garage doors and even go in the house, if opportunity provides.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

I'd love to have a silenced pistol to shoot any dogs with, but like I said, I don't want to leave any traces whatsoever

You're creepy. http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/004673.html



[This message has been edited by deadlycindy (edited 09-25-2003).]

Infrared, you do that kind of shit?

She's right, you're creepy.



[This message has been edited by LutherX (edited 09-25-2003).]

Infared

Before spouting off bullshit,

look in the fucking mirror and say

Yea, I am a hypocrite.

Fucking is bad, but theft is good?

Gimme a break.

hey dc

do not listen to these assholes

if a girl was aggressive to them,

would probable faint

Godzilla, you're an idiot. If you read my thread, you'll see that I've explicitly stated many times that I don'tsteal or cause harm, just explore. As a side note, you made the right choice with the girl, I respect you for your good judgment, if not your literacy.

I never said I was morally superior to anyone, either; I said I found marriage a sacred institution. Fucking around on your wife/husband and exploring restricted/dangerous areas are two very, very different things.

Yes, I'm creepy. I'm also a real lovable guy once you get to know me. What's your point?

-Infrared

And the dog-shooting thing: Again, read the thread, and you'll see I wasn't serious about that. I stand by my hobby known as nighttime operations with pride and professionalism in execution, and that's the end of that, whether it makes me immature or anything else.

well if i was in the situation, i don't think i'd be able to turn it down...

yes, im a slut, a whore, a disrespectful, unloyal piece of trash. i know this. i'm an asshole. i hate myself sometimes.

BTW, cindy, i think your position was pretty good on the situation, and godzillarulz, you're a stronger man than i.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

I'm not a bible-thumper either;



No you’re not. You’re an insecure little prick who drew way too many conclusions about Cindy’s post that were not there, just because you automatically identified yourself with the person being cheated on instead of the person doing the cheating or the 3rd party. The reason you did this is because you feel inadequate, and you know that the lack of ability to please, that Cindy alluded to, will probably apply to your future marriage; and you are hoping the institution of marriage is going to save you.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

No matter what you 30-something liberals have to say about it;



This is where you made it personal in your first post.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Understand that my post wasn't an attack on your person,



This is where you showed you don’t really have the balls to follow thru with your opinion. Kinda like you don’t have the balls to really debate this issue without getting your insecurity involved.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Cindy, thank you for being highly predictable in your responses.



Again getting personal. You are one mixed up little boy.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

but you're also a disloyal slut in my eyes, and therefore I have very little respect for you as a person.



Here is where you contradict yourself again. You said your response was nothing personal. Not only does Cindy not post any more things for you to get insecure about, but she specifically said that she would not cheat, and then have this to say. It was obviously inspired by her first post that you were answering so “objectively.” Speaking of objective opinions, you’re a dumbass.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

I stand by everything I said before.

Not possible for you to stand by the nothing personal comment since it was a coward’s lie.

-Easy



[This message has been edited by Easy Going (edited 09-26-2003).]

cheat and you are scum

i will personally lead the team that hunts you down and castrates you.

who the fuck are you to say cheaters are scum.

what is your definition of cheating?

The act, the thought, what?

Don't do it man...It's a bad idea.

It's a lot of bother that could fuck your life right up!

Hooray for you dissicion (i know it's wrong spelled) impressive, i don't know if i would have done that..... but like eyesore... i'm a slut (not a whore, it goes against my principles to get payd for sex)

i honestly wish that if i ever get married that after a few years i can actually be that strong

quote:Originally posted by Easy Going:

Originally posted by Infrared:

I'm not a bible-thumper either;



No you’re not. You’re an insecure little prick who drew way too many conclusions about Cindy’s post that were not there, just because you automatically identified yourself with the person being cheated on instead of the person doing the cheating or the 3rd party. The reason you did this is because you feel inadequate, and you know that the lack of ability to please, that Cindy alluded to, will probably apply to your future marriage; and you are hoping the institution of marriage is going to save you.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

No matter what you 30-something liberals have to say about it;



This is where you made it personal in your first post.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Understand that my post wasn't an attack on your person,



This is where you showed you don’t really have the balls to follow thru with your opinion. Kinda like you don’t have the balls to really debate this issue without getting your insecurity involved.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Cindy, thank you for being highly predictable in your responses.



Again getting personal. You are one mixed up little boy.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

but you're also a disloyal slut in my eyes, and therefore I have very little respect for you as a person.



Here is where you contradict yourself again. You said your response was nothing personal. Not only does Cindy not post any more things for you to get insecure about, but she specifically said that she would not cheat, and then have this to say. It was obviously inspired by her first post that you were answering so “objectively.” Speaking of objective opinions, you’re a dumbass.

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

I stand by everything I said before.

Not possible for you to stand by the nothing personal comment since it was a coward’s lie.

-Easy



[This message has been edited by Easy Going (edited 09-26-2003).]

But you told me you loved me!

Nice job, Freud. You done got me alllll figured out. You deserve a nice slice of pie.

The first post wasn't an attack on her person; the second one was more of one, and I even pointed that out. Did I stutter? I'm not going to waste more time on this one, because as I said, I stick by all I said, so you can flame me all you want, and then go to hell.

-Infrared

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

But you told me you loved me!



I don't remember if I said I loved you, but I did consider you one of the better posters here. Problem is there is often someone better, and you picked the wrong person to flame. I usually stay out of stuff like this, but I like cindy more and your attacks were most unwarranted. You can say it was not personal at first; it really does not matter. But I think it was. The 30-something liberal comment was in your first post, it was personal, and directed at her. And, all your subsequent comments regarding adultery in later posts were geared towards her first post even though most of your real feelings came late. In fact, she posted later that she would not cheat on a spouse and that was not good enough for you. I'm sure I'll read you more in the future, but I suggest you re-read what happened here and consider apologizing to cindy.

-Easy

I'm not apologizing to anyone for my opinion, whether it's objective or subjective. You can defend Cindy to no end and call me insecure more, if you like; for the Nth time, it makes no real difference to me. In spite of your very subjective attack on my person in your post, I still think you're an intelligent and respectable totizen, and at least you flamed me intelligently, so more power to you.

Case closed, think what you will of me from here.

-Infrared

"You told me you loved me" was an obscure movie reference.

Damn, we both need to work on our flaming skills.

*walks off to B&M*