Question 1:

There is a girl at my school, hot, and its been varified that she's slutty. Now, how would one approach her to get some action (head, to be specific). She is a friend at the moment, but not a good enough friend to where I would feel guilty. She is more of a girl I just flirt with.

Don't give me some stupid or blatant answer. I'm not gonna just whip it out on her and say "wax it", nor will I just ask her to blow me. Something more subtle, perhaps conversation that leads into it.

Second question:

This is more serious, and is my main question. The other one is sorta a "side-quest" so to speak (that prolly sounded fuckin stupid, I know).

There is this hot hot girl, who I have strong feelings for. She is giving me the craziest signals I have ever gotten. One day she smiling at me, the next she barely even looks at me (no, I have not done anything wrong, I'm 100% postive, so don't even consider that posibility). I can't tell anything about what she feels about me. I should also add, that despite how hot this girl is, I rarely see her with tons of surrounding boys and girls(from what some other guys have told me, she isn't very inviting, but what confused me is that she will smile and give me some good looks one day, and then snub me the next), which is strange, but I'm willing to ignore that for now. She always seems pre-occupied, as if she is looking for someone and I'm just talking to a wall.

I was reading some posts about treat girls the opposite of what they expect. So, tommorow or the next day, should I try giving her some attitude. Maybe that whole notice but ignore thing? Or should I go for more obviously negative approach, where I actually show that I'm angry or dislike her?

If you only wanna answer one question, answer this one, as its more important to me.

bumpity bump bump.

can't answer either question...

but if the hot chick you're really keen on finds out you're the kind of guy who tries to use random slutty chicks to blow him, she'll likely be unimpressed.

Heh,

well, yeah, thats why I said the second girl was a lot more important to me. I wouldn't even think about that other girl if I could get something going with the girl I really like. As I said, the first girl was just kinda a side-quest. I should add, this girl isn't exactly slutty, but she has given head to a guy who she wasn't in a relationship with. But AGAIN, I don't even care about her that much, this second girl is like everything.

#1. invite her to a party, get her drunk, then move to acting sexual. not too drunk that she can't think, but a bit tipsy.

#2. sounds like she might be playing the female game. she flirts and smiles one day, then ignores you for a while, then smiles again, then snubs you totally. right? thats the female game. she's playing hard to get. girls do this. they're stupid.

it works for guys too BTW. but most don't have the will power to turn down a flirty conversation, or not look at a girls body long enough for it to work. chances are, she likes you somewhat too, and you need to do some fucking work to get her.

be warned though, if you date her, she's going to control the relationship. she might pretend like you're in control, but the second you make her unhappy, she's going to let you know. you're going to have to work your ass off to keep her happy. if you make the move, then it gives her the control. if you're good enough, and you know how the game works, you can reverse it, but at your position it's doubtful.

but its very obvious that she's playing the game. thats why you like her so much. she's hard to get. the prize for the winner. she's got you wrapped around her little finger.

Not touching #1.. Eyesore's right about #2, mostly. She's trying to assert control over you. If you approach her boldly, she'll probably act a bit coy, but otherwise react favorably to your advance. Her intent is to keep your mind under her control. If you try and get the girl, you can escape this. However, it generally requires time, patience, and a willingness to lose the girl if she's more stubborn than you're willing to put up with.

The method: Be yourself.

It's really no more complicated than that, but it isn't easy. You're stuck between wanting to make her happy, holding up your end of the "give" that the give and take of a relationship requires, and keeping an eye towards not being whipped. You have to be extremely firm with where your limits lie, since she'll always be testing them (unless you go on the offensive in this battle of wills and try to control her instead), yet not rigid; there will be situations where bending is the best option. You'll be entering a clusterfuck of emotional bullshit and mental warfare, all for the smile of one particular female.

If you want to go for it, by all means, do so. But if you wind up in a situation like the one I just outlined.. well, you'll learn a lot. I guess there's an upside.

I've been myself for the past 14 years and what has it done for me? NOTHING

quote:Originally posted by prozak_jack:

I've been myself for the past 14 years and what has it done for me? NOTHING

I guess you're not doing it right.

Thanks for the generally good responses. I suppose that maybe she is playing the female game. I FUCKIN HATE THAT. No other girl has ever done that shit to me personally, but I've witnessed it with some of my friends.

I caught her looking at me once on the stairs from my peripheral vision, and there have been other instances where she clearly looked at me and smiled,etc. I'm not really sure though, because she does seem to be shy with boys in general.

Either way, tommorow I'm gonna approach her if I get any chance.

Shit, I dunno, I just have trouble thinking of her as a manipulative type girl. Not to say I think less of her, but I just don't think I've ever noticed that as part of her personality.

she very well might not be doing it on purpose. girls do shit like this without even realizing they do it. like it's genetically encoded or something.

this is why i hate girls.

Question 1) Get her a little tipsy and get onto a conversation about her giving head...Then challenge what she says when she says she's good at it. Eventually she should "prove" that she gives it good!

Question 2) Go up to the chick and say "You've got a nice smile you know that?!" and just start talking!

Pretty simple really!