Am I the only one who finds that if you become friends with a chick ya like, then you ask her out, she just wants to remain friends?

This has happened to me everytime I've asked out a chick. She just wants to be friends.

So, I took a different approach one day and asked out an aquaintance (sp?). In the end she lied and told me she already had a boyfriend, so she asked out some asshole to make a cover story.

And if she ever gets to read this: Yeh, fuck you. You know who you are. I do my research before I ask chicks out.

Man, I have bad luck with chicks. Apart from that, I'm very shy and I get nervous when I do ask 'em. I have terrible confidence and low self esteem. I'm not good looking. I'm not smart. I have a boring voice.

To get with the "in's": I'm nice. Friendly. I listen. I'm myself around others. I don't give in to peer pressure. That's about it.

Is there any advice you guys can give me?

quote:Originally posted by EssJay:

In the end she lied and told me she already had a boyfriend, so she asked out some asshole to make a cover story.

And if she ever gets to read this: Yeh, fuck you. You know who you are. I do my research before I ask chicks out.

you know this could be for 99.99% of the girls in the world?

I can't give u any advice but i can make u feel better man - ur not alone. I'm the same way!

"You know who you are. I do my research before I ask chicks out."

You should have read chapter8 where it states that if you say things like this : "I'm very shy and I get nervous when I do ask 'em. I have terrible confidence and low self esteem. I'm not good looking. I'm not smart. I have a boring voice."

That's usually the outcome of every date.

If you like the girl, but the girl doesn't like you, of course she'll want to remain friends. That "never be her friend thing" is bullshit. The way your odds improve by being her friend first and letting her get to know you outweighs the potential for her to say no solely because you're her friend and she doesn't want that to change, but she'd have dated you if she didn't know you that well.

girls use the 'i just want to be friends' excuse when they don't want to hurt your feelings. chances are, either she's not attracted to you, or she's more attracted to someone else. same thing with the 'i don't want a boyfriend right now' thing.

quote:Originally posted by Spiffy McBang:

If you like the girl, but the girl doesn't like you, of course she'll want to remain friends. That "never be her friend thing" is bullshit. The way your odds improve by being her friend first and letting her get to know you outweighs the potential for her to say no solely because you're her friend and she doesn't want that to change, but she'd have dated you if she didn't know you that well.

I have gotten pretty good at getting out of the friend zone, and I still have to disagree with this. The best approach is to send the sex vibe up front and go for what you want. It does take a lot of skill to change a relationship to sexual later on.

EssJay, don't blame the girl for this. It sounds like it’s all your fault. Everything you mentioned about yourself is a reason why she would say no, but she is NEVER going to give you that reason. Just forget about that happening. You will never hear "you have no confidence" or another real reason. You really have to just work on your skills, technique, and yourself. Also, don't judge everything by just one girl. You can never do this, even if you become a seduction master. It’s like batting in baseball, even the ones who are the best at it cannot guarantee that they will hit off a particular pitcher. They just know they’ll get their fair share.

-Easy