well this sounds gay as fuck but i have the BIGGEST problem with making moves. i dont have a problem approaching girls or talking to them like most people here but the funnest part and probaly easiest part about having a girlfriend i cant do. my last girfriend actually thought it was cute and liked that i didnt make moves on her for while but i know that she is probably one of the many few and i need to just fucking grow some balls and do this shit. so anyways for other people who have this problem do you have any tips that might help. usually when im sitting next to her my hand goes for hers and like at the last second i just turn back i have no idea why cuz i know she wants me too. well thanx for reading this i think it might have something to do with confidence which i thought i had but apparently not. any tips at all will be highly appreciated.

Bring her to your house. Go up to your room. Chill for a while listen to a cd that you like a lot and has a beat that you can do shit with. Then at the right moment (if she's laying on your bed) get on top of her and go from there. Works like a charm I used to have that problem but now I don't.

PYTH

dude thats a good idea ive never though and/or heard of that approach. hope my next girlfriend likes sublime.

The way I do might seem a bit complex, but it works for me, so here it is...I do martial arts and this is also used in combat, it's a state called zanshin...where you don't think about things, you just do them. To make the first move, young grasshoppah, you must clear your mind and act without thinking. Of course, you will have to have considered your actions before you do this, otherwise you could get slapped. Eh, not a very good explanation, bottom line: don't think, do.

Here's my secret (discovered this past week, and it seems to work well). I know for a fact that I'm going to put my foot in my mouth. It just happens, no avoiding it. The trick is to do it, while warning the person that you know you're going to do it. That way it's funny insted of pathetic.

For example, talking to this girl:

"Forgive me if I act weird or something, I'm just uncomfortable around new people. I tend to put my foot in my mouth. It's really bad around girls, especialy ones I like. (pause) Oh crud, I didn't meand it like that, I like you but I don't like like you, just that you're the kind of person I'd like to get to know and..."

"Yummy toes" (look embaresed)

"I warned you."

Now that that's over, I can stop being stupid.