sigh.... I had a huge article written on this in a reply in my other post but here goes, sorry if it's a little half assed.

wake up mother fucker. stop being so goddamn nice.I am nice. I do everything nice. I give my everything to everyone.the people who deserve it the least get it the most.

don't get me wrong... I get niceness back... IN THE ASS. wake up mother fucker. I've been doing nice shit for my "sick" mother all day. she just fucking got the audacity to get up out of her bed and pretend like shes not tired/sick anymore and come over to my room and interrupt my writing this article and tell me I've been "telling fibs just to get out of doing stuff"

honestly. i AM nice. I don't mean nice can be used to describe me. I mean I AM nice. at school i always play the nice guy. the giant walking pussy. I'm fucking sick of it. i give kindness ang get a big 'ol bowl of fuck you off for it.

I don't have the time or patince for this shit anymore. Example:I'm sitting, eating my lunch. a pretty girl walks up and says hey my freinds are all here will you move so i can sit with them? i go "alright" and move. just like that. and you know what? thats in-fucking credible.

I do this kind of fucking shit all the time. why? because I'm a nice person, thats just how i am. oh wait thats not accurate. I'm not really a nice person and neither are you. we're one and the same. you and I pretend to be "nice" because we hope people will accept us better. because we're ugly beasts and we have to be nice and kind and do all the right shit just for people to accept us.

Also we do it because we hope that one day, a "REAL" girl will say "aww he's so nice and sweet and funny. I like his personality. the next time he asks me out to a date i will say yes." wake up mother fucker. wear fancier, more expensive, more hip clothes. wear anchor blue. make yourself prettier.

thats what they *REALLY* want out of you. i had someone say "maybe they like him for his personality, you insensitive shit." yeah maybe I'll ram a schoolbus up my ass bull-dyke. STFU and don't lie to me. I know what that shit is all about. pretending like it's not about looks.

Fa'ad

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one time i had this tea kettle, and i kept peein in it, right? So one day I'm whistlin and my lips get too chapped to whistle, so I put the tea kettle on the stove and let it heat up, then i peed in it.

Whistled like an ANGEL. Great trick, you guys.

quote:Originally posted by oldpervrt:

one time i had this tea kettle, and i kept peein in it, right? So one day I'm whistlin and my lips get too chapped to whistle, so I put the tea kettle on the stove and let it heat up, then i peed in it.

Whistled like an ANGEL. Great trick, you guys.

I swear to god this is like an episode of the family guy. what the *HELL* are you talking about? get the fuck off my thread.

You're an angry little one, aren't you?

With a little twist of sarcasm.

tell me the truth, when was the last time somone beutiful and thusly popular did something for you? once for like maybe 1 or 2 of you, if (we'll be charitable here) you are telling the truth.and do you know why they never do anything for you? because they can and no one will ever give a shit. no one beutiful enough to be with them, anyway.

goddamn i need a smoke to relieve myself. and i don't even smoke. ever! oh my god I'm so mad i punched a wall and made a little nuckle hole in it and now im shivering a little bit. fucking shit.

"take pills, drop outta school, kill people, drink and jump buhind the wheel like it was still legal."

-Fa'ad

er, wrong motives.... don't try being nice to GET you something or somewhere, 'cause it won't ever feel like it is working as it should... try being nice just because its the right thing to do, and because you'll be a better person for it....

Would you rather know that you're a good person, or would you prefer to know that you're an asshole like the pretty girl that pushed you aside to sit with her friends...

At least you don't have something like that resting on your conscience, she does, dumb bitches.

Take the high road...

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Sounds like you've got one hell of a self-asteem problem, combined with a massive amount of cockiness.

A rare combination indeed.

Hah ha ha ha ha ha ha....

Ah hah hahhh...

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

Sounds like you've got one hell of a self-asteem problem, combined with a massive amount of cockiness.

A rare combination indeed.



How do you figure that? I see no evidence of that at all in his post....

Do you know how frustrating it is always doing your best to treat people with kindness and consideration, and then always having rudeness and inconsideration thrown back at you?

It can really get to you, that's why you have to learn to be kind and considerate to others for your own benefit, just to know in your heart that you're decent and nothing like the people who are treating you so rudely.

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

tell me the truth, when was the last time somone beutiful and thusly popular did something for you?

Perplexing. Why in the world would you even expect anyone to ever do anything for you?

If your actions are only motivated by the expectation that you'll receive something in return, you're in for a lifetime of angry disappointment. Angry, disappointed people are generally not well-liked. No one ever wants to do anything for a bitter jerk. It's a vicious cycle, so stop perpetuating it if you want people to respond to you differently.

quote:Do you know how frustrating it is always doing your best to treat people with kindness and consideration, and then always having rudeness and inconsideration thrown back at you?

Not a comment on Sarcophagus here, but I find that people who believe they behave this way actually don't. If people are responding with rudeness and inconsideration, it is likely they are responding to what they consider rude behavior. One person's "kindness and consideration" is another's "annoying jerk."

Misunderstandings abound.

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quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:

er, wrong motives.... don't try being nice to GET you something or somewhere, 'cause it won't ever feel like it is working as it should... try being nice just because its the right thing to do, and because you'll be a better person for it....

Would you rather know that you're a good person, or would you prefer to know that you're an asshole like the pretty girl that pushed you aside to sit with her friends...

At least you don't have something like that resting on your conscience, she does, dumb bitches.

Take the high road...

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you're not catching my point, hot chicks and handsome popular guys won't have anything on their concience because they don't have to. they can not give a shit and no one will care. everyone will still love them and be nice to them because they are attractive members of society. if any attractive popular members read this post, just post the words, "being attractive kicks ass."

no matter what i will always be nice cause its the right thing to do. I have alot of people who admire me as a great freind who is always honest and giving.

I'm just trying to tell people to stop hoping that being nice will get them places cause it won't. maybe people won't hate you, but it will take forever for you to find someone that likes you for your personality because you are not beutiful.

It's like a handicap. you will always try hard but you will never be in the real olympics, never.

-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:



How do you figure that? I see no evidence of that at all in his post....

I arrived at such a conclusion through this post, which clued me in to the self-asteem problem, and his previous thread, which clued me in to his cockiness(wherein he talked about how much better looking he was than 'this fat fuck.').

quote:Do you know how frustrating it is always doing your best to treat people with kindness and consideration, and then always having rudeness and inconsideration thrown back at you?

Why, yes. I do.

Why do you think I'm such a dickhead?

quote:It can really get to you, that's why you have to learn to be kind and considerate to others for your own benefit, just to know in your heart that you're decent and nothing like the people who are treating you so rudely.



Somehow, fa'ad doesn't seem to me like the selfless, giving-unto-others type. Sounds to me like he was only being nice to get laid.

Okay honestly, stop worring. Just be yourself. Seriously, why sit there and let other people degreade you because you wanna come off as the "Nice" guy. People should like you for who you are. And everyone (even tho it never happens) should be treated with respect... See what happenes when you take advantage of people and degreade people enough to a point where they break like you did up there... Shit like putting people into groups like "goth" or "prep" or "nice guy" is bull. Honestly if people just acted like themselves and didnt give a fuck what other people thought things like columbine, or suicide would never happen... god i'm sick of shit like this..

Nyky

Oh, ok. I wasn't a big fan of his other post myself, yet while I am not at all cocky, I can still tell you I'm more attractive than some chicks out there, especially the fatty ones. :P

Meh, every teenager has low self-esteem and cockiness.

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

...hot chicks and handsome popular guys ...can not give a shit and no one will care. everyone will still love them and be nice to them because they are attractive members of society...

Of course, this has always been true. No one should take this personally. Attractive people have an edge. There's a reason I pay attention to my appearance; there's a jarring difference in the way I'm treated.

quote:I'm just trying to tell people to stop hoping that being nice will get them places cause it won't.

So, you do act nice just to "get places?" People can tell when someone's trying to "work" them, i.e. "being nice" to "get places." Maybe that's why they treat you rudely. People can sense when they're being used, and most don't like it.

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:



How do you figure that? I see no evidence of that at all in his post....

Do you know how frustrating it is always doing your best to treat people with kindness and consideration, and then always having rudeness and inconsideration thrown back at you?

It can really get to you, that's why you have to learn to be kind and considerate to others for your own benefit, just to know in your heart that you're decent and nothing like the people who are treating you so rudely.

I'm just sick of people thinking that it'll be like "oh jimmy mildly ugly, I love your nice and interesting personality and you have a great sense of humor! aaaaahhhh"

http://www.bigcocksex.com/s1/images/bigcocksex_r2_c5.jpg (http://www.bigcocksex.com/s1/images/bigcocksex_r2_c5.jpg)

you will meet a moderately good looking girl because you are a moderately good looking guy.and even getting that will take you a long ass time. to quote onslaught, "the dream is dead."

-Fa'ad

i dont see why some people are pussies all the time.

if a girl asks you to give her a dollar, tell her to ask someone else.

beat someone up. show your not a little bitch.

try to be a jerk sometimes. people take control of you if you are too much of a pussy.

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:

Meh, every teenager has low self-esteem and cockiness.

Nah, some of us just have low self-asteem.

it sounds to me like you don't know the first thing about me or this post.

let me put the message simple.

1)I am nice. always will be regaurdless of others.

2)others are not nice to me.

3)girls won't go out with you for being nice, you have to be good looking

4)stop trying to be nice because you think it will help your tangometer raise

5)start being nice solely because it's the best way to live, knowing that you truly don't deserve that shit.

6)when you're not nice you know deep down that you really do deserve shit to get thrown in your face.

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

it sounds to me like you don't know the first thing about me or this post.

let me put the message simple.

1)I am nice. always will be regaurdless of others.

2)others are not nice to me.

3)girls won't go out with you for being nice, you have to be good looking

4)stop trying to be nice because you think it will help your tangometer raise

5)start being nice solely because it's the best way to live, knowing that you truly don't deserve that shit.

6)when you're not nice you know deep down that you really do deserve shit to get thrown in your face.



That is perhaps damn near the exact opposite of what your original post said.



Also, I've had occasional luck with getting good-looking girls to go out with me. Granted, they were either drunken lushes or stoned skanks, but they sure as hell weren't ugly.

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

I'm just sick of people thinking that it'll be like "oh jimmy mildly ugly, I love your nice and interesting personality and you have a great sense of humor! aaaaahhhh"



you will meet a moderately good looking girl because you are a moderately good looking guy.and even getting that will take you a long ass time. to quote onslaught, "the dream is dead."

-Fa'ad



uh, contrary to that: I'm not ugly, but I'm certainly not gorgeous, yet I'm engaged to a guy who could be the next CK undeez model... (and oddly enough I didn't fall for him because of his looks)

So evidently there is something about me that makes me really worthwhile to a man even though I'm not incredibly attractive and don't flaunt name brand shit... possible?

You're just being negative and feeling sorry for yourself because you're having a bad puberty, you'll get over it.

There's a difference between being nice and letting yourself be pushed around. Buying someone a can of Pepsi from the school vending machine because they let you copy their math homework is being nice. Your example of getting up to move because a bunch of people ask you to is getting bitched.

Believe me, dude, I understand. I was the exact same way at 14 (and 15, and 16, and 17). It took me quite some time to figure this out, and I still learned it faster than most people, so do your best to wrap your head around this. An asshole is someone that is unnecessarily mean to others. You do not, ever, have to be a straight-up asshole in life. You may have to show balls, you may have to stand up for yourself, and you may need to be aggressive at times in order to avoid a bad situation, but you don't need to be an asshole.

How to pull this off will take some figuring on your part, as it would be impossible to try and give all the possibilities you might face. Even if it could be done, the proper response to any situation varies based on time, place, people involved, etc., so it still wouldn't do any good.

Just trust me on this. Things seem fucked now, but they'll seem fucked in all new ways in the future. If you react so strongly to everything, your head will wind up in a giant twist. That's not a good place to be. Keep being a nice guy, but be choosier about when you show that side of yourself so that people don't take it for granted. Let others prove to you that they're worth your kindness. And if you wind up fooled by a smile and get played, learn from it and keep going.. most people are decent at heart, regardless of what you're seeing now.

Humanity didn't reach the six billion mark by consisting of 99% bastards.

I'v seen how nice guys end up. Wanna know what it is?

It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his pajamas, sipping a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm the Oscar Meyer wiener".

Being nice is like wearing a big sign that says "Take my money, take advantage of me, milk me for everything I'm work, fuck me in my asshole, and finish it off by ejaculating your hot creamy load all over my suprised face as thanks for all I've done.".

You act like a nice guy, you get taken advantage of. You start not taking shit anymore, you get somewhere in life.

Nooen ever accomplished anything by being nice alone. A kind word and an iron fist will get you infinitely more than a kind word alone.

Hell, you could just skip the superfluous kind word thing all together, the fist of iron is all that really matters.

Edit: After reading Spiffy's reply, I'm inclined to agree with him. There is a fine line between niceness and just allowing yourself to be taken advantage of. Know the difference and know where you stand.

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I agree with Spiffy too. Only be nice to the people that deserve it and even be mean to them every now and then to let them know you won't take shit if too much is being given. Hell I'm mean to some of my best friends and even my gf to let them know not to fuck with niceness and forgiveness. I'm forgiving when they have been forgiving of me for something of equal or lesser value (haha sounds like a coupon or something). There is a fine line between kindness and pussification.

Here's my theory on being nice -



If someone in need kindly asks you for a dollar, smile and give it to them.

If that same person comes back a week later and demands that you give them a dollar, punch them in the face.

You have generalized a little much about girls going for the jerks, and dismissing the nice guys.

I work in a place where all kinds of men nightly congregate. I totally know that I can have my choice to date any of them I want. But, honest to God, I am telling you the truth that I have NEVER EVEN ONCE knowingly targeted a guy to go out with who was an "as_hole"--- loud, rude, pompous, conceited, overbearing, or "model gorgeous".

When I don't know either of 2 competing guys who want me to go out with them, but I can see that one is physically "gorgeous" and the other -- though not "painful" to look at -- is NOT "good-looks exceptional", I will always pick the ordinary one. That's because I know my ODDS of enjoying the date, and not having a troubled evening, are infinitely better with him.

That's not to say all "gorgeous" guys are jerks, or that all ordinary looking guys are nice, but my experience is that my ODDS are MUCH better going with an unknown ordinary guy than with the unknown "hot" one.

But for you "ordinary" nice guys who think you want to become jerks, you should think about it more carefully. The only thing worse for the girl, I think, than dating a gorgeous jerk, would be to date an ugly jerk, or even a jerk of ordinary looks!! (hee hee).

So if you are an ordinary looking guy, STAY NICE. Don't add another hurdle to those obstacles you think you already have, by being -- stupidly -- an a_shole.

I know many other girls agree with me (both of my roomates agree with me, and lots of my GFs too). I'm sure many girls feel the same way......more, at least, than you guys seem to think. So just keep being nice. ("Nice", of course, doesn't mean letting anyone push you around or take advantage of that good quality). Love, Venus.

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ok get your fuckin head out of your ass, i used to be like that till i realized it doesnt get you anywhere in society anymore

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:



uh, contrary to that: I'm not ugly, but I'm certainly not gorgeous, yet I'm engaged to a guy who could be the next CK undeez model... (and oddly enough I didn't fall for him because of his looks)

So evidently there is something about me that makes me really worthwhile to a man even though I'm not incredibly attractive and don't flaunt name brand shit... possible?

You're just being negative and feeling sorry for yourself because you're having a bad puberty, you'll get over it.

hey sweetie, honey, shut the fuck up.

It's ok if you want to think you've verbally owned me but you can't because you're a fucking idiot. my puberty is going fine and my dilznick is getting alot bigger.

how do you know you didn't fall for his looks bitch? hmm? oh yeah thats right because you built a time machine, went back in time and kicked him in the face while he was little so he would be ugly and then saw that you still liked him.

fuck you retard. You can't own me. you see, i knew there would be plenty of people telling me I'm wrong because they CAN'T BELIEVE IT. because they WON'T BELIEVE IT.

Didn't you ever see that movie the matrix. some people are so dependant in their current beliefs that they can't accept new ones. it's the reason why CS 1.6 doesn't have alot of players. (PS my steam name user name is Fa'ad)

shutup fatty mcgee. if you had read the title you would know it says wake up niceGUYS. "I'm not gorgeous but I'm certainly not beutiful.." exactly bitch you're average.

and you think your guy could be the next ck model but thats cause you love him. have you asked modeling agents about it? lets be charitable here and say he is cute enough to be a ck model. congratulations you got lucky that hardly ever happens. that is if we're nice and say everything you said about him being able to be the next CK underwear model is true.

Power owned, bitch.

-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by acid_drop:

ok get your fuckin head out of your ass, i used to be like that till i realized it doesnt get you anywhere in society anymore

I'm going to allow this... and agree to it. this was KIND OF my point.. but not entirely. being nice couldn't hurt but it won't help you get girls so don't try to utilize it.

-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by WomanLover:

i dont see why some people are pussies all the time.

if a girl asks you to give her a dollar, tell her to ask someone else.

Excellent point. If women are walking all over you, it might be because you're letting them. I used to know a real cute girl who asked me to buy her a pack of smokes (she was still underage then). I did, and then she kinda assumed I would whenever. At this time it occurred to me that I was now her errand bitch. So next time she wanted a pack, I told her to get them herself, 'cuz I'm not a goddamn mule. She treated me with noticeably greater respect once she realized her huge tits couldn't control me.

What the fuck?

Verbally owned?

How the hell do you even get the idea I was trying to do that?

Your anger is misdirected, and you totally misunderstood me....

Furthermore you just proved yourself a dumbass, so fuck off "dilznik".

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:

What the fuck?

Verbally owned?

How the hell do you even get the idea I was trying to do that?

Your anger is misdirected, and you totally misunderstood me....

Furthermore you just proved yourself a dumbass, so fuck off "dilznik".

you care to explain that a little bit more, dumbass? Or are you going to pretend like everyone gets it?

Also I never gave you permission to use the word dilznick. (unless you know where it came from, in which case you don't need permission or in the case you don't use it against me)

I didn't misunderstand me, you thought you could prove me wrong with your story shitbomb. Well guess what? you didn't. Go eat some chicken nuggets and keep thinking they're made out of real muscle meat, dumbass.

-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

you care to explain that a little bit more, dumbass? Or are you going to pretend like everyone gets it?

Also I never gave you permission to use the word dilznick. (unless you know where it came from, in which case you don't need permission or in the case you don't use it against me)

I didn't misunderstand me, you thought you could prove me wrong with your story shitbomb. Well guess what? you didn't. Go eat some chicken nuggets and keep thinking they're made out of real muscle meat, dumbass.

-Fa'ad

Ok..I've stopped laughing long enough to type (funniest post ever), so here's my take on you, my angst-ridden friend:

Where the fuck are your balls? No, don't misunderstand me - you're not lacking balls because you're nice, you're lacking balls because you seek approval from, and seem to want to change yourself for, other people. Knock it off. Stay the way you are (although I do agree with other posters, about there being a fine line between being a pussy and a nice guy). Handle social interaction however YOU want, not the way other people tell you you should. Know thyself - know your worth, know who you are and what you have to offer, and you'll find all the comfort you need. You don't need the approval of your peers. If you do somehow adopt that mindset (here again; only do it if this feels right for you, not because I'm telling you to), you're going to change. It won't be a conscious thing, your dick won't get bigger, your acne won't clear up, but you'll be comfortable with yourself. Confidence exudes, my friend - this is something that goes a bit beyond spoken or otherwise physically expressed interaction. I don't know exactly what it is. It's one of those abstract things that just kicks you in the head, but you cannot ever hope to put it into words. Have you ever been in a situation where you, say, see a girl across the room who is pretty, but dressed nicely, not a supermodel, not in any way all that physically different, but you just feel something, notice something, whatever, that you can't put your finger on. "What the fuck is it about her?" you find yourself wondering. It's like that, that solid self-confidence: women notice it, guys will notice it (and be intimidated by it), you'll notice it eventually. You'll feel good about yourself, and it'll exude, and it will validate your person entirely, which is what you wanted in the first place, right? Your problem isn't whether you're too nice, it's because you don't understand your own worth.

-Infrared

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:

Meh, every teenager has low self-esteem and cockiness.

Nope, I just have the bouts of low self-esteem.

Yeah, nice guys always finish last. I am a nice guy as well, but I generally help anyone that looks like they need it. (None of the getting your hands dirty for them shit, just like school work and shit). As I have grown so sick of the opposite sex using me for an answer sheet, and being generally nice to and ignored... even if I waste my time talking to 'em. And aside from a few other factors, I have grown to instinctively perceive nearly every one of them as a threat. Yeah girls, thanks for fucking up my brain. Otherwise, I have grown more selective. Meaning I don't help most people I know will just be using me. And I never forget the favors I do, and then later cash in on them (metaphoricly speaking).

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fa'ad, what would really help is if you made a choice- either accept the assistance people are offering, or shut the fuck up and go away. A bunch of people have said what they could to help, and have apparently been more or less ignored by you in favor of repeatedly telling Sarc she's wrong until she said something you felt you could flame the shit out of her for.

Either quit being an ungrateful little shit or fuck off.

quote:Originally posted by Spiffy McBang:

fa'ad, what would really help is if you made a choice- either accept the assistance people are offering, or shut the fuck up and go away. A bunch of people have said what they could to help, and have apparently been more or less ignored by you in favor of repeatedly telling Sarc she's wrong until she said something you felt you could flame the shit out of her for.

Either quit being an ungrateful little shit or fuck off.

First of all, I'll get the most important thing out of the way. thanks infrared and the rest for making me think twice about taking shit.

Now less importantly FUCK YOU. You don't know what the shit you're talking about. Just because i don't post that it helped you think i don't give a shit? Sweetheart, bob up and KISS MY DICK. I'm thankful I just didn't post about it bitch.

"All of your sins against me are forgiven"-Fa'ad

I think the problem on this thread is that guys and gals have different ideas of what "being nice" and "being an ass" means.

Guys, if you try to be a nice guy, you are going out of your way to not be yourself, and you will portray a lack of confidence. This will cost you. The solution is to be yourself, not an ass. Seeing yourself as trying to be an ass is also changing who you really are.

Girls, don't kid yourselves. You don't always like the nicest guy out there and some of you do seem to have a tendency to get stuck on the worst jerks around. Especially you younger girls.

Guys again. Don't blame the girl for the way she reacts to you. She is just being herself and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact, that is what you should be doing. Remember that she is not out to get you, you are out to get her, and she knows that even if you are being nice.

-Easy

quote:"All of your sins against me are forgiven"-Fa'ad

*rolls eyes*

fa'ad you fucking suck. So far I've learned you're fucking pissed off and angst-ridden, have very low self-esteem, you think you're ugly, and on top of it all you're a pussy. You need to chill out dude. I know you'll make some shitty attempt to flame me, but i certainly dont care. here's a jumbled attempt by me (at 4am!) to try and help ya.

1) You don't need to be good looking to pick up a chick. Don't you ever see ugly dirtball's from hell with ultra-hotties? There is a method to their madness. They are confident and know what they are doing. Basically to get a girl you need real confidence, and know how to give her what she wants. she doesn't want a pussy, but she doesn't want a asshole.

2) Chill the fuck out, calm the fuck down. Remember, nobody loves you on totse, infact most people probably dislike you because you're acting like a shit.

3) Getting chicks is just a small part of life. you'll get the hang of it sooner or later.



Basically you need to get yourself on your feet, stop being depressed. If you don't take shit from people, you'll notice you feel slighly better about yourself. Incrementally your confidence and self esteem will rise if you can make the steps. Alot of people on totse were probably like you at your age, but I know I wasn't half the dumbass you are. Also remember you're not the center of the fucking world, and your shit stinks the same as everyone else's (probably worse).

edit: typo

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Like someone else almost said: Women don't want a pussy or an asshole - they already have both. They want balls.

-Infrared

"but no cock(iness)"

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

Like someone else almost said: Women don't want a pussy or an asshole - they already have both. They want balls.

-Infrared

"but no cock(iness)"



Problem is, I feel like an asshole and a dick when acting like I have balls.

the more you do it, the easier it is.

quote:Originally posted by DarkFire47:

the more you do it, the easier it is.

Kind of like murder, right?

quote:Originally posted by DarkFire47:

the more you do it, the easier it is.



Like murder, right?

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:



Problem is, I feel like an asshole and a dick when acting like I have balls.

That's because you're acting like you do. Read my longer post up there for a more in-depth analysis of what I mean

-Infrared

BEING ATTRACTIVE KICKS ASS

quote:Originally posted by Infrared:

[b] *rolls eyes*



aww cmon i know thats cheesy but I wish i was like kain from soul reaver. why cant i have quotes with magnitude? my usual quotes are like

"she told me to get away from her"-Fa'ad

"UH-OH I SOILED MYSELF AGAIN"-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by bunghole:

fa'ad you fucking suck. So far I've learned you're fucking pissed off and angst-ridden, have very low self-esteem, you think you're ugly, and on top of it all you're a pussy. You need to chill out dude. I know you'll make some shitty attempt to flame me, but i certainly dont care. here's a jumbled attempt by me (at 4am!) to try and help ya.

1) You don't need to be good looking to pick up a chick. Don't you ever see ugly dirtball's from hell with ultra-hotties? There is a method to their madness. They are confident and know what they are doing. Basically to get a girl you need real confidence, and know how to give her what she wants. she doesn't want a pussy, but she doesn't want a asshole.

2) Chill the fuck out, calm the fuck down. Remember, nobody loves you on totse, infact most people probably dislike you because you're acting like a shit.

3) Getting chicks is just a small part of life. you'll get the hang of it sooner or later.



Basically you need to get yourself on your feet, stop being depressed. If you don't take shit from people, you'll notice you feel slighly better about yourself. Incrementally your confidence and self esteem will rise if you can make the steps. Alot of people on totse were probably like you at your age, but I know I wasn't half the dumbass you are. Also remember you're not the center of the fucking world, and your shit stinks the same as everyone else's (probably worse).

edit: typo

[This message has been edited by bunghole (edited 08-22-2003).]

First of all what you are about to recieve is not a flame, its an owning.

Now, to begin with I'm probably smarter than you are now, let alone when you were my age, gramps. Furthermore, your name is bunghole, thus stripping you of credibility.

Allow me to elaborate, you are a complete asshole who thinks he's big when in fact he sits in his garage watching reruns of beavis and butthead on a brown leather couch eating doritos and wiping the nacho cheede on your black shirt. You occasionally get up to make yourself a grilled cheese sandwich, if you're feeling saucy.

And if not, congratulations you are smarter than a 14 year old boy, would you like a certificate? Oh yeah that's right, you have one, your GED.

The first few words in your post made sense until you started acting like a complete ass and/or dickbomb.

I have low self-esteem, because I really do suck at everything. If you don't believe me, lets go at it on CS. My steam name is Fa'ad.

I don't think I'm ugly, girls do.

And I'm not a "pussy", I am just sick of being nice. Fuck being nice. I will be nice when it is absolutely necessary.

Also when I talk to girls or boys, I have confidence UP THE ASS. It seems to have gotten me NOWHERE.

Please let us focus on number 2 for a moment, you just said to me, "nobody loves you on totse". Un-fucking-believable. Then you had the fucking audacity to say, "In fact most people probably dislike you". Clean up those doritos stains, asshole. Oh I'm sorry, bunghole. how rude of me. I apologize.

In conclusion thanks for trying to help but sorry for me pwning you.

"And then i said, no. Ahahaha"-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

[QUOTE] sorry for me pwning you.



maybey thats why your a 'nice guy virgin'

and i think everything he said is true man, thats the first imprssion i got from the shit you posted

nothing he said was harsh... untrue... or deserved a 'pwning'

you posted this homo thread about you 'in a nutshell' being a nice guy (pussy) who cant get chicks coz he gets used as a doormat

someone posts agreeing and you give them a 'pwning' and a fuckin poooor one at that

so next time some bitch asks you to move say suck my fuckin dick and give her a pwning and she will want you fo sho

*prepares for a week assed pwning*

im a realist btw



[This message has been edited by ZEbbEDY (edited 08-22-2003).]

you're doing it all wronf mate...

don't be nice to these beautiful and/or popular girls...they are manipulative bastards and will tell you everything you want to hear to get their own way.

when it came to women in school i was just a mean and nasty fucker...they'd say "awww pete...can i sit there and talk to my mate?" and i'd say "erm...let me think...NO!" and they wouldn't talk to me after that...that was a result.

just get through it and when youleave school you can look at them and laugh coz they'll be like kenny mccormick's family in south park: poor, smelly and ugly...whereas you can be rich, famous, successful or all of the above!

i like meeting old school "friends"...the ones who treated me like shit for years then come up beiang all chummy with me in the pub...gives me the chance to say "get the fuck out of here you piece of scum...i wasn't good enough back then and YOU aren't good enough now...fuck off!"

lots of fun!

quote:Originally posted by fa'ad:

it's the reason why CS 1.6 doesn't have alot players.

-Fa'ad

CS 1.6 doesn't have alot of players because its still in beta asshole.

BTW, I am going through the same shit man.

I just remembered one more thing I forgot to include in my last post. If you really wana pick up chicks try the ones a bit younger than you. I realize you're 14 do you can't go too young, but its real easy to pick up a younger girl. Eg. I'm 18 and 16/17 year old girls = easy. Actually everyone is, nevermind..

quote:Originally posted by ZEbbEDY:



nothing he said was harsh... untrue... or deserved a 'pwning'

you posted this homo thread about you 'in a nutshell' being a nice guy (pussy) who cant get chicks coz he gets used as a doormat



so next time some bitch asks you to move say suck my fuckin dick and give her a pwning and she will want you fo sho

*prepares for a wEEk assed pwning*

im a realist btw



[This message has been edited by ZEbbEDY (edited 08-22-2003).]

you misspelled the word, "weak" up there.

Also he just misunderstood, but criticism accepted, It's time for the FINAL IRON FIST'S STAND.

I haven't pwned you cause I don't feel like it's neccesary. I could also make one of those lame comments about how if I responded back to you intelligently you wouldn't understand, etc. etc. Also unnecesary.

quote:Originally posted by Kikey_Kikeowitz:

Kind of like murder, right?



Yeah, and sex, and driving, and just about anything else in life.

quote:Originally posted by bunghole:

I just remembered one more thing I forgot to include in my last post. If you really wana pick up chicks try the ones a bit younger than you. I realize you're 14 do you can't go too young, but its real easy to pick up a younger girl. Eg. I'm 18 and 16/17 year old girls = easy. Actually everyone is, nevermind..

Hey thanks! Maybe you're not so bad after all. I thought you were one of those complete asses who doesn't really want to help, you just want to see you message on the board and know that someone read your shit.

But you're not. I'm surprised at how much good there really is in totse.

"STFU, n00b."-Fa'ad

quote:Originally posted by psycho_8b:

you're doing it all wronf mate...

don't be nice to these beautiful and/or popular girls...they are manipulative bastards and will tell you everything you want to hear to get their own way.

when it came to women in school i was just a mean and nasty fucker...they'd say "awww pete...can i sit there and talk to my mate?" and i'd say "erm...let me think...NO!" and they wouldn't talk to me after that...that was a result.

just get through it and when youleave school you can look at them and laugh coz they'll be like kenny mccormick's family in south park: poor, smelly and ugly...whereas you can be rich, famous, successful or all of the above!

i like meeting old school "friends"...the ones who treated me like shit for years then come up beiang all chummy with me in the pub...gives me the chance to say "get the fuck out of here you piece of scum...i wasn't good enough back then and YOU aren't good enough now...fuck off!"

lots of fun!

SOLD!

"Got Milk? Thats also funny."-Fa'ad

P.S. I hope you caught that one.

TALK TO ME BROTHA

I'm Mr.Nice Guy at school and ppl just never repay the motha fucking favor. Just Keep letting them push u around and then remember that someday they'll realize how much of an asshole there being. And yes They WILL GO TO HELL WHEN THEY DIE. KARMA IS A BITCH U WHORES

Once, for an entire year I claimed to be Jesus. I even acted the roll. I came the the conclusion that if you are nice to people out of the kindness of your heart, they will just take advantage of it. Nobody like a Jesus who cant preform miricals to suit their own selfish wants and needs.

Bah, I'm nice and I hardly ever get taken advantage of. I don't have any trouble getting the good looking girls. People don't demand things off me. In fact people tend to give me things, booze, drugs, places to sleep.

Maybe you are just hanging around with the wrong people. Or it could be just that I'm so fucking beautiful

being attractive kicks ass

yeah i concour i am one of the nicest guys , but recently i have tried to change i gave my friend 20 dollars for a skirt , she said shed pay me back, and this wsaa like a few months ago , never got it back and were still friends. i am the nicest kid i know and i get nothing except an awe your so nice. i know that no one will like em cause im nice, btw im not ugly my sisters friends think i am hot. but i am to fucking nice

DAMN IT ALL

quote:Originally posted by Sarcophagus:

er, wrong motives.... don't try being nice to GET you something or somewhere, 'cause it won't ever feel like it is working as it should... try being nice just because its the right thing to do, and because you'll be a better person for it....

Would you rather know that you're a good person, or would you prefer to know that you're an asshole like the pretty girl that pushed you aside to sit with her friends...

At least you don't have something like that resting on your conscience, she does, dumb bitches.

Take the high road...

[This message has been edited by Sarcophagus (edited 08-21-2003).]

:)

I am/was kinda like this, but am progressing out of it. You just get sick of it. Someone makes a crack at me, and I call them something back. Someone pushes me (even playfully), I push back. Try it. You know how sometimes people might push you, not to start a fight, but just to be kinda tough. Well, next time that happens, push him back. Even fight him.

Sometimes being nice to people is smart if it can keep you out of trouble. Just use your head w/ those situations.

A good way to become more aggressive is to play an agressive sport. My top sports are football, soccer (a lot more agressive than its viewed as), hockey ,and boxing. This gets you used to hitting people back. There is no way you can be a good boxer, yet never hurt people. Same with the other sports. You'll get used to knocking people down, and struggling against them. It WILL seep over into your normal life.

Also, as far as girls go, I try to balance it out. I am sweet with girls, and more rough with the guys.

Trust me, play an agressive sport like the ones I listed. In a matter of weeks, you'll notice changes. The last few years, I've been punked outta my share of chairs, but thats pretty much stopping. You just have to push yourself to say "Fuck off, I was here first".

Nice guy's finish last.



By: Garrett Hols

It’s amazing that assholes can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are assholes at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what assholes their predators

really are, they pretend like the asshole is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the asshole into a nice guy, but assholes will always be assholes. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the asshole. But she claims to love the asshole… now this is where the

theory begins.

She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the asshole right away, instead she will stay with the asshole.

Girls are idiots. They don’t realize that the nice guy has been there all along.

He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don’t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their asshole boyfriend. But the nice guy isn’t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along.

The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get

attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as

a friend. A FRIEND. They don’t say, “Oh he’s hot” or “I want to have his

children” about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don’t need it from the asshole. The nice guy gets the shit end of the stick while the asshole gets all the action.

I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women

department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the asshole is because

assholes ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, “Why isn’t he paying attention to me?” so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the asshole. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The asshole finally says, “I’ve let this beauty dangle long

enough, time to boat this bass”. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an asshole.

Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a “listener” you can’t turn

back. The girl will always go after the assholes because there are always

nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a “listener” you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants… ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn’t work like that. The girl wont “come to her senses” and realize what an asshole her

boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another asshole, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you.

Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren’t looking for nice guys… they say they are but they’re not. They are looking for the perfect asshole, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect asshole. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the

girls out there with boyfriends that don’t treat you with respect, that don’t

listen to you, and that don’t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your asshole to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to

it all.