I don't know why but for some reason when I talk to a guy and he says he's a virgin I just can't believe it, I think it has to do with the fact that men have been stereotype with the macho man personality, but if a girl tells me she's a virgin I would believe it, is it posible to think that some day the women sexual behavior would be equal to that of the men, or did it superpast men's already but society, which is mainly ruled by men, doesn't want to admit it?

Is this a way for men to feel powerful by playing the main character in sexual life, eventhough is well know that women are more capable to comtrol men through sex?

***Uses failing mod powers***

This thread would definately be better to be posted in the Sex and Affection forum. As this deals more with sex than any real conspiracy.

well...

you might think that but if you look back in time, in england for example, queen Elizabhet the 1srt used to used sex to gain power,she went to bed with any major emperor to get favors. just the same way many people use sex to day, and believe me, men use sex as a conspiracy against woman the same way women use it against men. It is all about power not affection or some crap like that.

I feel that roles these days have changed. IUts the women that hurt men and use them, and its women who lie and cheat. Well, except for my girlfriend.

quote:Originally posted by Lewneedsrs:

I feel that roles these days have changed. IUts the women that hurt men and use them, and its women who lie and cheat. Well, except for my girlfriend.

Amen to that, So many girls lead guys on lie and cheat. It sickens me.

Instead of dividing people by their sex and then randomly assigning a behavior to them, why don't you divide people by their behavior and then decide what sex they are. It is true of neither sex that they always lie and cheat or never lie and cheat. The same person is capable, in two different relationships of being either one of those things. Statistically speaking, there are lots of male and female virgins. I've met 30 something male virgins before, and probably a fair few 30 something female virgins too, though being female, I'm more likely to find that information out about a male..

Try giving people the benefit of the doubt.. That's my best advice. Not everyone is lying, not everyone is telling the truth. The only stupid position to take would be to assume one thing or the other and then act according to what you assume. ie, if you believe a guy is a virgin when he says so and begin dating him because of that.. or you reject a guy because you think he's lying about that.. Reject, or not, based on more sophisticated criteria, such as how he treats you, etc.

Lecture over.

My girlfriend and I have all these magazine subscriptions that we gto free to magazines such as Stuff, Maix, PLayboy, Gq, Cosmo, 17 magazine...and several more. But you know how magazines always have men/women surveys. IN ALMOST ALL OF THEM, the women ratio of cheating was higher than the mens. Something else which was interesting was also that, that women often fantasize about being with another women more than men think about being with other men. And men think about 3-somes more than women. I was reading 2 girls magazines that my girlfriend had...one was YM and the other was 17. And it was filled with girls stories about how they all have cheated, and all there stories. Many of them do it frequently. Although, you mhave to take into consideration...girls are fickle, and especially the young ones who send their life story articles to the magazines...all seem to be 17 year old or younger high school girls. Most of them couldn't handle a real, grown-up, committed relationship. But hey, they are young after all. So commitment can be overwhelming at a young age. You should still have the decency to at least break up with your partner first. Agree? And most of the girls I know ARE NOT VIRGINS. They all lost in in high school, some in Junior High. So there is no reason to beleive a guy or girl more, when they say they are a virgin or not. Usually, you can tell if they are lying or not, if you know they nature and character of the person. I have always been able to tell if someone I met was a virgin or not.

Wow, I wish I was psychic and believed everything I read, too.

Magazines cater to society's perceptions and desires, not to anything resembling *fact*.

As for more women fantasizing about being with another woman than men with a man, it's more socially acceptable for a woman to be attracted to a woman. I know plenty of men that have fantasized about being with a man, but getting them to *tell* you something like that, with most men, is worse than pulling teeth.

Women bullshit, they fail to admit they are sex craving bitches. They go out and have sex with 9 different guys, go to church, and suddenly they are all clean again. It's bullshit.



Shek

quote:Originally posted by Prince Charming:

Women bullshit, they fail to admit they are sex craving bitches. They go out and have sex with 9 different guys, go to church, and suddenly they are all clean again. It's bullshit.

You think they'd care about people knowing if it weren't for the fact everyone would call them a goddamn slut?

Cause and effect, folks.

quote:Originally posted by bloodybones:

I don't know why but for some reason when I talk to a guy and he says he's a virgin I just can't believe it, I think it has to do with the fact that men have been stereotype with the macho man personality, but if a girl tells me she's a virgin I would believe it.



i think that it all stems from the juvenile male misconception that girls don't like sex. young guys, which im inclined to believe you are (young, that is) seem to think that girls don't want or like sex. they think they must con them into it. spiffy has another good point, reputations are on the line as well.

on top of all that, perceived notions about behavior also contribute. guys try to get everyone to look up to them and try to make everyone jealous of them. guy's all want to get laid, so to get other guys to look up to them, they make people think they get laid.

girls want to get ahead of other girls, to do this they try to make other girls look bad, labeling them slut, whore etc. so that guys won't want them. i don't know if this is going anywhere.

i think that women ARE conspiring on men...they use sex to gain power only to one day unite as one and not give us sex until we are enslaved and work our guts out for their happiness and comfort...forgetting ourselves and putting them first to make sure they are content...hold on...that's already happened...it's called marriage!!!