Several people have asked "Why don't you put a Donate button on the website?"

I plan to.

The problem is, I'd like to be able to have some form of recognition for the people who donate. Such as having the word "Contributor" or "Member" appear next to their names in their posts.

Or, for instance, when a new feature is added to the site, the folks who donate can test it out while it's in beta and offer feedback before the newbs even see it.

PayPal "Donate" buttons however, are tied to your real, legal names, not your handles. I'm working on some Perl scripts that will allow you to login to totse.com with your handle, click a PayPal donate button that donates money for the site from your PayPal account, and then credits your handle as being someone who donated money to totse.com -- all without revealing your real name to anyone on the site, not even me. To do this I have to tie UBB's crappy flatfile user database system into the Apache::Registry module, but that's been something I've wanted to do for a while.

Once that's all working the donate button will be up. I hope to raise enough cash to pay for hosting and maybe buy a new server.

(I'd be happy if the site covered it's own bandwidth costs.)

What kind of money does the cafepress get?

Sounds like a very good idea, Jeff. Totse might even become profitable to you in the near future.



Are donations tax deductible?

ILL DONATE BECASUE POKEMON ARE THE 1337 HAK0RZ

What if you dont give teh cash????????

Hell,id give 5 bucks and hey jeff may i ask you why you never post?

I'll throw in like $10

quote:Originally posted by da_skza:

What kind of money does the cafepress get?

Try looking into to it...

But since I already know it's only a few dollars profit each item sold...I already know it's not a huge amount.

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

The problem is, I'd like to be able to have some form of recognition for the people who donate. Such as having the word "Contributor" or "Member" appear next to their names in their posts.

Only drawback I see is the same indifference as the post issue again, but instead it will be "I donated and you didn't" Shouldn't be an issue or something you have to worry about, but it's bound to happen. Catch 22 is when people go..."Hey I did donate, stfu!"

If memory serves correctly, Paypal requires you to have a major credit card to open an account. Taking into consideration the average age of totse users I wouldn't count on a lot of donations from this approach.

I'm well past the average user age here and I can't even open a checking account, from the aftermath of my '01 escapade which rendered me unable to save my credit from going to shit.

A P.O. box is dirt cheap and a good alternative to offer.. which I did several months ago to a certain admin. but my email went unanswered.

very good idea Jeff. I like the fact that those who support totse would get recognition for it. by the way, i like your decision to put acidmelt as admin. good choice, good choice

quote:Originally posted by Extant:

If memory serves correctly, Paypal requires you to have a major credit card to open an account. Taking into consideration the average age of totse users I wouldn't count on a lot of donations from this approach.



Yeah, I thought about that, as well. Hell, I'm 20, and I still don't have a credit card.

Paypal only requires your bank account number and routing number, I think.

I don't have Paypal so it would be cool if I could just mail some cash or something. The cafepress merchandise isn't very impressive, or I'd buy some.

Hmm, I like that idea Zok said about having Regular, Gold, and Silver memberships.

quote:Originally posted by robbinthehood:

Hmm, I like that idea Zok said about having Regular, Gold, and Silver memberships.

na, thatd suck.

PAYING for membership?

even if i could get it free, theres something annoying about the fact that someone else seems better just because they can afford it.

It would be nicer if we all could NOT be defined by our income.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:

na, thatd suck.

PAYING for membership?

even if i could get it free, theres something annoying about the fact that someone else seems better just because they can afford it.

It would be nicer if we all could NOT be defined by our income.

Bingo, I dont use credit cards anyway.

As for the credit card requirement you could just pick up those pre-paid cards that are sponsered by major credit card companies. Coinstar offers something like that but I feel they require way too much personal information. I don't no about the other cards, like the simon gift card. I also think e-gold would be a better service for donations as they are more secure, pluse I've never heard of them freezing accounts and other like scams that paypal has commited over time. Using the "suspicous activity" arguement when they do freeze accounts.

I still think that your status should be defined by your activity, not your money.

[This message has been edited by Jaguarstrike Resurection (edited 12-28-2004).]

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:

It would be nicer if we all could NOT be defined by our income.

It'd also be nice if Jeff didn't have to pay thousands of dollars of his own cash to support the faceless masses who act like Totse is a right, instead of a privilege.

Set up a post office box,and i'll gladly send a money order to it.

I have no credit card,sorry jeff.

quote:Originally posted by Red Raven:

It'd also be nice if Jeff didn't have to pay thousands of dollars of his own cash to support the faceless masses who act like Totse is a right, instead of a privilege.

You have a point, raven, but how much dom you think he pulls in in ads?

He may be making money.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:

You have a point, raven, but how much dom you think he pulls in in ads?

He may be making money.

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

(I'd be happy if the site covered it's own bandwidth costs.)

more ads.

^^ I don't know about you, but I don't want to deal with thousands of popups everytime I got to totse.

all you need for paypal is your account number(bank)

i got 2 dolla in my paypal account i are 1337!

quote:Originally posted by Pyro44:

^^ I don't know about you, but I don't want to deal with thousands of popups everytime I got to totse.

Totse doesnt do popups, but there IS plenty of unused space under the About Community Bad Ideas Drugs Ego Erotica Fringe Society Technology column.

[This message has been edited by Jaguarstrike Resurection (edited 12-28-2004).]

I would be happy to donate, If only i could send cash or money order.

I think that you should not define a user for contributing towards totse because of the "i contributed to totse and you didnt so shut up haha" idea that other people have suggested. I think that the donate not be shown to users.

Maybe a special forum for users who donate? Also making a special forum would cut alot of unserious noobs out and only the people who are serious are about it will be there. (and the rich unserious people).

Also i think that you should set up a totse box account.

Oh and another thing. Instead of banning users, ban their IP. But if they are serious enough they should be able to pay to be unbanned. (but in doing this, the people who ban other people have to be monitered closly to make sure they are not robbing people of their money and forcing them into blackmale)

Thanks,

Shiznit.

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

Or, for instance, when a new feature is added to the site, the folks who donate can test it out while it's in beta and offer feedback before the newbs even see it.

What you're saying here is that totse may have more changes to it in the future? All the time I have been here on totse I don't remember seeing totse go through any big changes except some layouts and colors changing then the miniprofiles leaving.

Hey Jeff, one more question. I know you won't reply to this but I just figured I could ask anyway. Will there be a way you could take money orders? Or even cash? I don't have a credit card but would happily donate 200, 300, maybe 400 dollars but I can't seeing as how I don't have a credit card.

Anyway, glad to see there is finally going to be a donate button.

quote:Originally posted by Shiznit Skitzafrantic:

Oh and another thing. Instead of banning users, ban their IP. But if they are serious enough they should be able to pay to be unbanned. (but in doing this, the people who ban other people have to be monitered closly to make sure they are not robbing people of their money and forcing them into blackmale).

1. They DO have an IP ban system.

2. You can go around this with a proxy.

3. Paying for anything on totse except a little "contrib" logo next to your name is retarded.

4. *Blackmail

I'll gladly contribute to totse. I love this website and completely agree with its open atmosphere.

Shiznit, people get banned for a reason. If totse bans them then totse doesn't want them coming back.

Jaguarstrike, you're an ungrateful pig. You've been coming to this website for a long time and you don't feel you owe anything?

As for a Member or Donator title, I wouldn't mind that, but if you were going to take Money Orders, cash, or checks you would have a hard time changing all those titles by yourself.

Jeff, you should take money orders as well. If not, I'll ask my mom to use her credit card, and just give her the cash.

Not to be rude or intrusive, but I wonder how much totse costs to run. Anybody have a good guess ? I'll pledge 10% of my savingaccount to totse ! Anything, anything, to make sure totse lasts for years to come.

Alles für Totse !

*sheds tear*

totseforever@gmail.com - the best e-mail adress EVER, belongs to me.

I'm a broke-ass college student with about $5 to spare...I hope that's enough to at least show my appreciation

quote:Originally posted by Billy Idol:

Not to be rude or intrusive, but I wonder how much totse costs to run. Anybody have a good guess ?

Well, from what I have been told, totse's bandwidth alone costs around $400 a month.



Jeff doesn't ever reply to questions anymore.

Let me control the mods and I'll pay for the whole damn thing.

How much does a new server cost?

id donate money but there is no way i could

sorry

I'd be up for donating some money to keep this place going, ain't going to be much, but everything helps.

quote:Originally posted by Heywood Jablomi:

Let me control the mods and I'll pay for the whole damn thing.

Yes hand it all over to haywood, he will take great care of totse

Of course the admins would hand totse over to someone who has been banned multiple times!

if you could pay by cash id send money 2 the US for sure i havent been on totse that long but its the best site ive ever been on

For the ppl who donate how about a tag board?

If it was open to everyone it would get spammed. So just ppl who donate, that would be cool.

Two points:

1) For contributors, allow an avatar icon (graphic).

2) Stop using such a retarded, rape-in-the-ass ancient board. Instead of hacking it up, write a perl parser or find someone who has that will convert it into a sensible format that another board understands. Simple Machines is good.

quote:Originally posted by eberon:

Two points:

1) For contributors, allow an avatar icon (graphic).

2) Stop using such a retarded, rape-in-the-ass ancient board. Instead of hacking it up, write a perl parser or find someone who has that will convert it into a sensible format that another board understands. Simple Machines is good.

1. totse is a site about INFORMATION why do i need to see your picture of ****** beside your name to learn... i dont

2.the ubb might not be as fancy as the newer ones but i like it actually perfer it to most others.

What about a "donate hardware" button.

This is an old UBB code and you cannot have avatars on it. From what I am told.

I wouldn't like avatars anyway they get annoying and stupid. If avatars are allowed they should be to a fixed size.

What is wrong with the board we have now? It is perfect for transferring information. We don't need avatars, signatures, or anything else for that matter. I like this board the way it is.

It would be nice to have more than four moderators in a fourm though...

[This message has been edited by cronic5 (edited 01-02-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by mapack:

1. totse is a site about INFORMATION why do i need to see your picture of ****** beside your name to learn... i dont

Uhhhh, that seems a bit irrelevant to my suggestion. The implementation of my suggestion would not prevent or obstruct you form obtaining information.

I don't see you submitting any constructive responses to the topic at hand, so stfu about 'information.' Obviously you don't give a real shit about information since you've not written anything constructive or substantive in this topic.

As for the code being too old to hack, that's ridiculous. But if you were to say that it's not an efficient use of time or cost-effective, I'd agree with you. And you'd be proving my point. This board software is a dinosaur from an ancient age. Why should the site admin pay either a subscription fee or licensing fees to run a discussion board? And why should I be convinced to help run a site that pays a greedy company for something that has freely available, in most cases superior equivalents?

Just my 0.22 pesos.

I could go for an avatar.

quote:Originally posted by eberon:

Uhhhh, that seems a bit irrelevant to my suggestion. The implementation of my suggestion would not prevent or obstruct you form obtaining information.

I don't see you submitting any constructive responses to the topic at hand, so stfu about 'information.' Obviously you don't give a real shit about information since you've not written anything constructive or substantive in this topic.

As for the code being too old to hack, that's ridiculous. But if you were to say that it's not an efficient use of time or cost-effective, I'd agree with you. And you'd be proving my point. This board software is a dinosaur from an ancient age. Why should the site admin pay either a subscription fee or licensing fees to run a discussion board? And why should I be convinced to help run a site that pays a greedy company for something that has freely available, in most cases superior equivalents?

Just my 0.22 pesos.

...You have 6 post and yes what i said did have somthing to do with what you said. i said why would we need avatars for a site about disscussing diffrent subjects to learn so fuck you bitch.

I don't think eberon knows what ****** is. If he did he would know why avatars are would be bad, especialy in SG.

Just being able to come here and post is a big enough reward for donating....I wouldnt worry about special "contributor" tags.

WHAT A FUCKING SCAM!!!!!

Get a Better Job Hunter and pay your own bills slut!

quote:Originally posted by Wardawg:

WHAT A FUCKING SCAM!!!!!

Get a Better Job Hunter and pay your own bills slut!

This is a good reason to keep donations private, or at least, private from those that don't donate. Please are, in general, idiots and will be idiotic about this if you allow them to. Don't, please.

quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:

I don't think eberon knows what ****** is. If he did he would know why avatars are would be bad, especialy in SG.

I don't think many of the kidiots in SG would bother spending part of their allowance on totse.

The main point remains, UBB sucks.

quote:Originally posted by Gustave:

This is a good reason to keep donations private, or at least, private from those that don't donate. Please are, in general, idiots and will be idiotic about this if you allow them to. Don't, please.

Lol ok pay Jeff your money and watch it go into nothing on totse. You fat fuck.

quote:Originally posted by Wardawg:

Lol ok pay Jeff your money and watch it go into nothing on totse. You fat fuck.

..go into nothing?

GOD!! you're a fucking moron.

I'd glady pay the admins large amounts of money to ban people that i don't like...

but that would be unfair.

Donations probably not be known to the regular users because of the aforementioned reasons. Pseudo-hierarchies will form and what not. However member's donations should be known to moderators and administrators so that they can at least be aware of those who are contributing their dollars (or euros) and not just their opinions.

Also, the only people who will probably donate money anyways are those members who actually give a fuck about totse and its quality. These members are probably the ones who post worthwhile things as well, and therefore may be entitled to a little leniency from mods once and a while.

quote:Originally posted by LostEquation:

Donations probably not be known to the regular users because of the aforementioned reasons. Pseudo-hierarchies will form and what not. However member's donations should be known to moderators and administrators so that they can at least be aware of those who are contributing their dollars (or euros) and not just their opinions.

Also, the only people who will probably donate money anyways are those members who actually give a fuck about totse and its quality. These members are probably the ones who post worthwhile things as well, and therefore may be entitled to a little leniency from mods once and a while.

people would just post that other peopl have donated and it would be wide spread



no matters

just get the damn button up so i can throw away my money..

I would donate, my reward would be this site.

BTW why doesn't anybody simply click the ads? As I'm posting I middle-clicked all the ads (open in a new tab in firefox), so we all just do that a bit and it will be just as good, right? Not completely sure how these things work.

Finally, a real reason for me to get a paypal account. The years of enjoyment I've gotten from this site is totally worth donating now and then.

quote:Originally posted by Wardawg:

WHAT A FUCKING SCAM!!!!!

Get a Better Job Hunter and pay your own bills slut!

Do you really think he would go to the trouble to rig paypal so it protects OUR identities purely for HIS benefit? Way to think about it, dumbass.

Instead of having reconition under your name you could always just take the flood control away for those specific users or lower it. Of course this is only if they pay a certain amount. I think anyone can pay $1.00 to get rid of flood control. Make it like $20.00 to take flood control away.

You could always allow signatures that are text based only. I would love to have a signature.

Avatars blow. They take up bandwidth and they make totse look immature. Also, I love UBB because of its simplicity. What else would you need? Private messaging? Birthday alerts? God forbid...ratings?

Totse is fine the way it is save for all the stupid fucking trolls. In my opinion the best way to get rid of them would to include an ignore feature. Its win-win! Totse doesn't have to give up its constitutional ideals by banning trolls, and the good users don't have to deal with any crap.

is there a minimum? Can someone donate 5¢ and get an 1337 sticker next to their name?

Sure, I'll throw some cash in.

totse keeps Me occupied, and I feel as if I owe.

I'll donate.

What will these donations go to? Anything legit, or are we just giving you our money for no reason?

quote:Originally posted by OneMulatto:

I'll donate.

What will these donations go to? Anything legit, or are we just giving you our money for no reason?

Do you have any idea how much totse's bandwisth costs? There are like four ads on the site so I doubt that pays for the bandwidth. I for one would donate some money to the cause.

To encourage people to donate you could give them small little perks. Like maybe a signature that is completely text based and limited to something like fourteen character. Or something that could lower flood control by like ten seconds. And you could bring back img tags to donaters.

BTW how old do you have to be to get a paypal account?

quote:Originally posted by chainy:

Totse is fine the way it is save for all the stupid fucking trolls. In my opinion the best way to get rid of them would to include an ignore feature. Its win-win! Totse doesn't have to give up its constitutional ideals by banning trolls, and the good users don't have to deal with any crap.

In my opinion, an ignore feature is a system for ostracism which can too readily be abused. If I feel you are a troll and your posts shouldn't be read, I would be free to not read them, but if I don't like you and want you to shut up (which is actually against the basic principles of a discussion board devoted to free speech, such as Totse) I could persuade a bunch of others to ignore you...

I don't have that much money (£5, roughly $10) but i'd send that to Jeff, just because i like this site and he deserves it, i know it wouldn't be much, but if every memeber donated $10 i think that would make him quite a bit of money to cover the cost and a bit for himself, kind of like a tip, and if i every get more money in my bank, i would donate most of that.

You should make it accept pay pal and money orders/cash. My idea on thanking contributers would be to have a page that lists every member that donated and the amount they gave.

What about the possibility of Totse's own merch instead of CafePress merch?

PayPal & P.O. Box

Then instead of having something next to their name, set up a separate page to list all donators. Have it in different categories so people have a vague idea as to how much they donated.

People will still be judged by what they have to say. So what if contributors get a little more respect. If they're helping the site & Jeff, it shows they support this place and I think they deserve it.

Also, don't worry so much about automating everything. If people are sending you cash, money orders, and donating online, it's worth it to spend the extra time each week to organize everything.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:

na, thatd suck.

PAYING for membership?

even if i could get it free, theres something annoying about the fact that someone else seems better just because they can afford it.

It would be nicer if we all could NOT be defined by our income.

quote:Originally posted by Wardawg:

Lol ok pay Jeff your money and watch it go into nothing on totse. You fat fuck.

You have no idea of what you speak of. If my twenty dollars went to a good meal for Jeff, I'd feel just as good as if it went to bandwidth or servers. But then again, I'm not an asshole like you.

I've thought it over - and after careful consideration, I'm thinking seriously about donating a button.

Answers to (some) questions:

Cafe Press? Next to nothing. I took the ads down, in fact.

Donations (if there ever are any) would not be tax deductable.

totse has had a P.O. Box for years and years.

You can safely disregard anything Zok said about Regular, Gold, and Silver memberships.

totse.com doesn't do pop-up ads, which you might have noticed BASED ON THE LACK OF POP-UP ADS ON TOTSE.

Banning IPs is next to useless. People either come here to talk with other people or they come to throw their poo against the wall and see what pretty patterns it makes. Deal.

I don't particularly like UBB, but I haven't liked any other software I've seen enough to make it worth the pain of switching. I've posted my requirements here before, and no one has ever forwarded a link to any system that comes close. MINIMUM requirements are for something database-driven (so it doesn't break when there are more than 20000 messages in a category), with a new message scan (show me all of the new messages since I was last on) and a "new messages to me" scan (show me all of the new messages since I was last on that are replies to my messsages). It would be nice if the software was written in Perl and was open source.

Finally, a donation is just that, a DONATION. Hence my use of the word, DONATION. In English, that's spelled D-O-N-A-T-I-O-N. n 1: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause [syn: contribution] 2: act of giving in common with others for a common purpose especially to a charity [syn: contribution] Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University.

... just in case the meaning wasn't clear.

quote:Originally posted by mizled:

I've thought it over - and after careful consideration, I'm thinking seriously about donating a button.



lol, that's pretty funny. Donate a button. Hahaha. You're always so clever, even when it seems there's nothing clever to be said. Almost 15000 posts too, I solute you.



Anyways, Jeff I think a donate button is a good idea. There are a lot of people on totse and I'm sure some of them have money, I know there are people that spend hours here every day, you'd probably make fair bank that way.

As for rewarding the one's who donate, here are a few ideas:

<UL TYPE=SQUARE>

<LI>No flood control

<LI>An ignore feature

<LI>Avatars

<LI>IMG tags (anywhere)

<LI>Extended profiles

<LI>Signatures

</UL>

Some of those were already mentioned, I just compiled a list. I also think you should put the cafepress link up somewhere on the site, I think the problem was that you weren't selling the right stuff. I remember there were mugs and boxors and tshirts, but I think you'd do better with hoodies, beanies, that type of thing (considering the TOTSE demographic).

Or maybe you need a more catchy logo than "totse.com-raw data for raw nerves", I mean text is kind of bland. Perhaps you could run a contest in Art & Design, lot of talented people there.

Maybe you could even open up a TOTSE store, free from cafepress. I personally would buy a TOTSE beanbag, or a "PWND" hat, etc. Like I said, lot's of well off Totsians who would spend money on it, you just have to figure out what they'll buy.

PS-I'd donate but I'm poor , I try and contribute in other ways though, i.e TOTSE fanart, I tell refer people to this site, stuff like that.

quote:Originally posted by robbinthehood:

Hmm, I like that idea Zok said about having Regular, Gold, and Silver memberships.

That wasn't my idea. Somebody in suggested it in #totse a while back.

What about offering a MyName@Totse.com email address (and POP3 server ) to all people which donate money ?

That way It wouldnt deter people from using the BBs , same "intelligent creative enlightening posts"

, but It will be a really incentive to donate (specially those users more identified with Totse's phylosophy -whichever that could mean- ).

Id go for one , at least ! .



Have fun .

J.

quote:Originally posted by celbii:

ILL DONATE BECASUE POKEMON ARE THE 1337 HAK0RZ

Yeah, I guess if there is a donate button then I will give you some money. $100-$1000 depends whether or not you think I deserve to be a moderator :P.

Honestly I don't really care if we get any special recognition I'll still give.

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

Answers to (some) questions:

blah blah blah...

totse has had a P.O. Box for years and years.

more blah blah blah...



Okay, after looking around I finally found it under "Advertisers" in the FAQ. Here it is if anyone wants it:

Totse.com

P.O. Box 5378

Walnut Creek, CA 94596

This brings up another question.. if someone was to send a money order should they make it payable to totse.com or Jeff Hunter?

Jeff Hunter, probably.

quote:Originally posted by MoneyBoxers:

Jeff Hunter, probably.



That's my guess, but it could make a difference come tax time is why I asked.

quote:Originally posted by marty:

What about the possibility of Totse's own merch instead of CafePress merch?

Nobody answered. It's cheap and make much more then CafePress.

My 2 cents worth.

I think recognition is a bad idea and it should remain completely anonymous (as to who donates)

Run it (the donate button) like this for a while, and then you can hopefully cover your costs or better.

If after 6 months or so, there is little or nothing coming in; Then more drastic steps such as recognition could be implemented.

I guess the only problem with this would be that every man and his dog would be saying "I donated $1000 before we started being recognised" etc etc.

Anyhow, I would contribute a small amount every now and then - And actually wouldn't want anyone to know (not that they would care) nor know if anyone else had donated.

I think it would definately detract from the site if there were different classes of users based on their contribution. But I definately agree that the donate button in essence is a good idea. (and just sending money orders to a PO box, Seems simple enough)

Hunter pay for your own shit!

quote:Originally posted by Wardawg:

Hunter pay for your own shit!

It's not like he's the only one who use's totse.

5h|_|7 |_|p /\/006!



Sorry, I figured I'd do it in jest before someone really did it...

Sounds like a good idea.

What can i do to become a moderator?, apart what is said on FAQ i have found no helpful information on the matter. What can i do to improve my chances of becoming one?

quote:Originally posted by escape_reality:

What can i do to become a moderator?, apart what is said on FAQ i have found no helpful information on the matter. What can i do to improve my chances of becoming one?

Don't call them, they'll call you. You're pretty much already fucked for getting the job now, anyways.

Thats a good idea

Reduce flood control down to like 20 seconds sometime

I've been here for awhile only, and I like Totse forums over most boards I've been in. I think that no avatars contributes for something..I can surf just as quickly using my old 28.8 as I am with my current broadband connection.

Avatars would be mini tubgirls or mini ******s.

Stupid crap.

Needless crap.

id donate.

but if i got anything for donating. I would like

a totse email.

and

well, thats all.

If I wasn't poor I'd donate like 50 bucks.

Give me money mutherfuckers. You owe me. You waste my bandwidth with your bullshit, but you won't pay up. Donate or leave my forum.

Hit spammers with bans ASAP, perhaps cater the ads based on what forum the person's in(S&A, W&C are pretty clear).

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

Several people have asked "Why don't you put a Donate button on the website?"

I plan to.

The problem is, I'd like to be able to have some form of recognition for the people who donate. Such as having the word "Contributor" or "Member" appear next to their names in their posts.

Or, for instance, when a new feature is added to the site, the folks who donate can test it out while it's in beta and offer feedback before the newbs even see it.

PayPal "Donate" buttons however, are tied to your real, legal names, not your handles. I'm working on some Perl scripts that will allow you to login to totse.com with your handle, click a PayPal donate button that donates money for the site from your PayPal account, and then credits your handle as being someone who donated money to totse.com -- all without revealing your real name to anyone on the site, not even me. To do this I have to tie UBB's crappy flatfile user database system into the Apache::Registry module, but that's been something I've wanted to do for a while.

Once that's all working the donate button will be up. I hope to raise enough cash to pay for hosting and maybe buy a new server.

(I'd be happy if the site covered it's own bandwidth costs.)



How about you put the old tags on people who contribute more than "X" amount of money. It will say



Fallen Angust

Member

Post count: XxXx

Contributed: XxXx



That would be good, and would jew people into giving up the $, which would be a GREAT CONTIBUTE to keep this site up and running, top notch.



no minimum, but if it was up to me, it would be 100 for the X amount, old school tag, and how much you have contributed.



Ya but its not, so what ever, just bring back the member/ post count, people want it, so they will have to pay yes?

Jeff, whatever happened to those 900 numbers you could donate from? Wasn't there a 25 dollar and a 10 dollar number to call and then you press 145 for Totse or something like that? If those still work somehow then post the numbers and i'll gladly donate, and I bet many other members will too.

Although this may be a bit far fetched, with the money fomr a donate button how about make a mobile phone totse site. A version of the forum, just smaller and toned down so it could be viewed from a cell phone.

quote:Originally posted by Xerxes35:

Jeff, whatever happened to those 900 numbers you could donate from? Wasn't there a 25 dollar and a 10 dollar number to call and then you press 145 for Totse or something like that? If those still work somehow then post the numbers and i'll gladly donate, and I bet many other members will too.



A lot of us would but Jeff wants to give people recognition when they donate and it's a bit of a hassle to write down who donated when they called etc. and then assigning you a tag that says "contributor" etc.

quote:Originally posted by Xerxes35:

Jeff, whatever happened to those 900 numbers you could donate from? Wasn't there a 25 dollar and a 10 dollar number to call and then you press 145 for Totse or something like that? If those still work somehow then post the numbers and i'll gladly donate, and I bet many other members will too.

Yeah I remember those. The numbers were

1-900-443-2279 x145 to donate $25.00.

1-900-443-4227 x145 to donate $10.00.

quote:Originally posted by cronic5:

Yeah I remember those. The numbers were

1-900-443-2279 x145 to donate $25.00.

1-900-443-4227 x145 to donate $10.00.

How the FUCK did you remember that?!?! Are those really the numbers? Btw what was your user name back then?

Sorry for going off topic.

[This message has been edited by Xerxes35 (edited 02-14-2005).]

I quite like the idea of a 'HeadShrinkers' for people who donate. That way the people who donate get the recognition of other people who care about totse, but it means it can't be used as a new form of 'I've got a big post count'.

fuck i love this site and im in india no card no way to send cash and a couple of dollors is like a meal for two in a good resturant with change left over and discriminating cause i cant pay sucks i seriously thought this site stood for more than that ,ps it took me a long time to sign up and now......

It'd also be nice if Jeff didn't have to pay thousands of dollars of his own cash to support the faceless masses who act like Totse is a right, instead of a privilege.[/B][/QUOTE]

you re right too and that means i lose totse as theres no way i can pay in cash

would bater do

anyone need some shit

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:



It would be nicer if we all could NOT be defined by our income.



one way or the other if you are on the interrnet you can afford some sort of a donation.

quote:Originally posted by liquid:



one way or the other if you are on the interrnet you can afford some sort of a donation.

What if your mommy pays the bills?Ha Ha

quote:Originally posted by sketchy:

What if your mommy pays the bills?Ha Ha



Get mommy to donate.

X &lt;-----

how about a donate button right here

Still waiting for a donate button....

donate (http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum1/HTML/000039.html)

What if I don't have Paypal?

quote:Originally posted by Louder Than Bombs:

What if I don't have Paypal?

suicide

quote:Originally posted by robbinthehood:

Hmm, I like that idea Zok said about having Regular, Gold, and Silver memberships.

quote:Originally posted by Jaguarstrike Resurection:

I still think that your status should be defined by your activity, not your money.



Sorry for the double posts, but I think that if we contributed money we would help totse be better, and most of us will start to look at it better. Not to mention if your paying for it you will be more active. Also the self satisfaction of knwoing you are part of keeping this wonderful place alive.

I'd donate if I had any money...

I really don't want to be recognized, if I contribute. I'd do it because I like this site, not because I get a fancy doohickey next to my name.

Also, I'd like the other guy's question about adressing a money order to totse.com or Jeff Hunter addressed. If there's a way that I can have this be tax-deductible, it's be awesome.

I'd probably donate $10 a month or more. I think it's better to keep Totse as simple as it has been so far. Of the reward thing, I like:

-Lower the flood control

-Extent profile

-And the most important, a totse email.



[This message has been edited by Esperantist (edited 03-24-2005).]

TOTSE is the best, I would donate 10$ or so

Maybe TOTSE could become a Limited company enableing Jeff to sell stock to friends and family. This would help members to feel like they own a small part of TOTSE too, hense giving them more motivation to make TOTSE ever better.

HHMMM this would stop TOTSE being so "Underground" meh its worth thinking about.

quote:Originally posted by Aldhan:

Maybe TOTSE could become a Limited company enableing Jeff to sell stock to friends and family. This would help members to feel like they own a small part of TOTSE too, hense giving them more motivation to make TOTSE ever better.

HHMMM this would stop TOTSE being so "Underground" meh its worth thinking about.

That makes no sense fool. People buy stocks to make more money. And totse isn't a buisness so therefore it cannot become a stock.

quote:Originally posted by still laughing:

Although this may be a bit far fetched, with the money fomr a donate button how about make a mobile phone totse site. A version of the forum, just smaller and toned down so it could be viewed from a cell phone.

Why wont he make a mobile phone totse site?

Because its a stupid as shit idea.

How much does it cost to run totse. i love this site and would be happy to contribute if I had some idea of the costs involved.

quote:Originally posted by AGruntsJaggon:

Why wont he make a mobile phone totse site?

Because its a stupid as shit idea.

So you can view totse on the go.

not shure if its been posted yet but to accomplish what your trying to accomplish you may need to use the paypal sandbox and dev a php script that allows this, not too shure but maybe it will help

Ok, this may sound gay, it may be in fact gay, but here goes. I know that a few totse members, including myself, are in bands. It would be cool for bands all over the country who are here, local or not; if of course if they have the ability, to set up a show with most the proceeds going to here. In addition to the bands advertising totse, it can make the site some cash too. I'd say in exchange for that, allow the bands to set up a links page on here so the bands can get some advertising as well. At the show say it's a fundraising event for one of the most out there and influential websites on the web. I'd be down with it, but it sounds almost too much like "tsunami disaster charity". Anyways, it could work if we all tried.



[This message has been edited by PUN5H3D3X5T3NC3 (edited 04-24-2005).]

[I appologize]

LMFAO

I THOUGHT IT SAID DETONATE BUTTON

[/I appologize]

so whats going on with the donate button? ill donate as soon as you guys get artound to getting one.

sounds good.. =)

Imp

I'd like to see a donate button soon, you guys. I'd also like to see my money go towards the revitalization of this fora. Thank you.

quote:Originally posted by PUN5H3D3X5T3NC3:

Ok, this may sound gay, it may be in fact gay, but here goes. I know that a few totse members, including myself, are in bands. It would be cool for bands all over the country who are here, local or not; if of course if they have the ability, to set up a show with most the proceeds going to here. In addition to the bands advertising totse, it can make the site some cash too. I'd say in exchange for that, allow the bands to set up a links page on here so the bands can get some advertising as well. At the show say it's a fundraising event for one of the most out there and influential websites on the web. I'd be down with it, but it sounds almost too much like "tsunami disaster charity". Anyways, it could work if we all tried.





I'm probally going to hangf out with a couple well known bands who will be nameless right now and I will talk to them and see what kind of support they will give totse. If they do that will kick som major ass.

to be honest i believe in magic

Well I can't donate remember! I NEEDmoney!

My $4.20 worth.

The simple truth is that people do things to make themselves stand out from the crowd, that's why they buy those stupid ass H2's. Why not use that to Totses' advantage?

People around here already talk about how big their post count is like its some kind of badge;(somehow having a big post count must make up for poor posts and lame topics).

So if there were a "badge" or "contributor" next to usernames, then people wouldn't want to loose that user name. Now instead of just banning IPs so that shit users just use a proxy and make up new names, you could disable that user's profile maybe, someone steps out of line, you email them with a warning, they do it again, and their user name gets locked for a couple of weeks. I doubt to many of these kids are gonna want to spring for 2 or 3 bucks everytime they get locked for spamming.

It's not about money, its about control, and responsibility.



The point is that people who spend thousands on a Hummer, don't usually like the idea of taking it out and wrapping it around a light pole. If there were consequences to their actions maybe they would think twice about being asshats.

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FUCK YOU JEFF HUNTER YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTY FAGGOT ASS FAGGOT MUNCHING FAG!

quote:Originally posted by Jeff Hunter:

Several people have asked "Why don't you put a Donate button on the website?"

I plan to.

The problem is, I'd like to be able to have some form of recognition for the people who donate. Such as having the word "Contributor" or "Member" appear next to their names in their posts.

Or, for instance, when a new feature is added to the site, the folks who donate can test it out while it's in beta and offer feedback before the newbs even see it.

PayPal "Donate" buttons however, are tied to your real, legal names, not your handles. I'm working on some Perl scripts that will allow you to login to totse.com with your handle, click a PayPal donate button that donates money for the site from your PayPal account, and then credits your handle as being someone who donated money to totse.com -- all without revealing your real name to anyone on the site, not even me. To do this I have to tie UBB's crappy flatfile user database system into the Apache::Registry module, but that's been something I've wanted to do for a while.

Once that's all working the donate button will be up. I hope to raise enough cash to pay for hosting and maybe buy a new server.

(I'd be happy if the site covered it's own bandwidth costs.)

You can say to ask for credit once they send you money or else they will not get any credit.

I know you can't ban anyone for being annoying but CUT has taken it too far too many times please pleas please ban him please.

lol. Yeah, there's alot of guys posting in places where the content doesn't belong. That's the only real violation i think you can do on the forum besides you know, trying to actually attack the server. But that's different.

ummm...Is jeff a auto-mated bot?

quote:Originally posted by krys:

ummm...Is jeff a auto-mated bot?

Well, duh, that's the only logical conclusion.

There should be a forum specifically for contributing members, or several forums, since that would be the only forum free of spam/idiots/juveniles.

No one's asking the real important question!:

If this donation thingy works out real well, does that mean Mods will start getting paid?

How many people here are fat-asses?

cmon? just fuckin tell me.

cmon, its easy just yes or no im doing a survey. I know none of you fucks leave the god damn comp.

Ok, So where is this button!?

quote:Originally posted by Metaphysicist:

No one's asking the real important question!:

If this donation thingy works out real well, does that mean Mods will start getting paid?





Admins first.

It's a privlidge to be a moderator here, not get paid for it..

Well that's what I think.

Well it seems alot of your money woes come from bandwidth. Mabye if you BANNED THE ISP'S OF SPAMMERS, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO EAT YOUR BANDWIDTH FOR BREAKFAST, YOU COULD PREVENT THEM FROM COMING BACK. It might just be cheaper. Just a suggestion.

^^ How would you like it if you could not use TOTSE because somone in your city spamed?

I don't know about the US, but in the UK loads of companies set up a five digit number which people can text (sms).

You could set up one of those where each message costs a set amount (say £2 / $ 3), so you text your handle to a 5 digit number. Easy, not attached to any particular individual, and you don't need a paypal account or a credit card.

quote:Originally posted by AllStar:

It's a privlidge to be a moderator here, not get paid for it..

Priveledge? How is it a priveledge to do work here, for free? Sure, its not that hard of a job, but its still no priveledge, even if we don't have flood control.

quote:Originally posted by littlegreenguy:

I don't know about the US, but in the UK loads of companies set up a five digit number which people can text (sms).

You could set up one of those where each message costs a set amount (say £2 / $ 3), so you text your handle to a 5 digit number. Easy, not attached to any particular individual, and you don't need a paypal account or a credit card.



ya they do it here too. i like this idea but how much is it to set up the account and what does it do when u text it just charge your account? And if so wouldnt the phone provider charge a bunch of fees to the account, like keeping some of the money for themsleves for like

quote:Originally posted by BIGguapo:

And if so wouldnt the phone provider charge a bunch of fees to the account, like keeping some of the money for themsleves for like

Yes but you would get money from people with cellphone that don't use paypal and are too lazy to mail things.

most of the companies charge you the standard text charge (10p here) plus the cost put in place by the company whose number it is. I think you can get the 5 digit numbers pretty cheap, i *think* ive heard the price £10/year somewhere.

it's a good idea, howeveryou could put more adds on the sides of the site www.newgrounds.com (http://www.newgrounds.com) does it and they cover all there cost and then some.

^^ We don't want totse to end up like ebaums world.

quote:Originally posted by Solisious:

it's a good idea, howeveryou could put more adds on the sides of the site www.newgrounds.com (http://www.newgrounds.com) does it and they cover all there cost and then some.

I love totse not having a shit load of popups come up whenever I surf around it.

Hopefully it stays that way, and if the donation thing works out well that would be just swell.

Hey if totse made a donate button I would donate whenever I can.

Why not just log the IP and username that they use to visit the page with the donate button? PayPal's IPN (Instant Payment Notification) sends your server the Payee's IP so you can then compare that with the username in the database and change that user's status to "Donor" or w/e...

Well, I think we should have some kinda of donate system (paypal, and a mail system for non-CC, younger people). Still, though I love the Temple, I'm in the position right now that I could only give like a few bucks a month.. Anyway we could like "negotiate" something with the "Regular, Silver, Gold" accounts idea with the people who are non-spamming, useful, and overall, good totseans?

Like I said, I couldn't donate a big bag of cash, but I do what I can to keep totse both a lively and excentric place. Anyway, just a thought.

SmartTart

I would be happy to donate to totse, I will however not do it if it registers so other totse users can see that I have done.

Your "social" status on totse should not be defined by your income or the fact that you're a rich kid.

Yes donating goes to show that you care about totse, but some people will have it easier than others.

People with bad grammar/spelling of course also has it harder, but that is something that cannot be avoided. I don't think we should create another injustice.

Allowing members to buy status on totse Is IMO going against everything favorable about an online community.

quote:Originally posted by Lacedwithdelight:

I would be happy to donate to totse, I will however not do it if it registers so other totse users can see that I have done.

Your "social" status on totse should not be defined by your income or the fact that you're a rich kid.

Yes donating goes to show that you care about totse, but some people will have it easier than others.

People with bad grammar/spelling of course also has it harder, but that is something that cannot be avoided. I don't think we should create another injustice.

Allowing members to buy status on totse Is IMO going against everything favorable about an online community.

Maybe we can have a status line under our names like where post counts used to go that denote whether or not you have donated. That way no one knows how much or how often you donate but you still get the pat on the back for doing it whether it be one cent or a million.