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| Printed Matter Books, Magazines, and Newpapers. What you read and why you read it. Favorite authors, magazines you read, recommendations for future reading, unusual books and where to purchase them, and sources of strange mail. |
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 2005-07-20, 01:54
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Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Of course I forgot to give credit to deptstoremook for the first edition, which happened to be superior to this thread in that it included why the book was listed as required reading.
Well, you get the idea. The original thread contained many great books to provide totseans with reading suggestions.
The longer your list, although quality over quantity is always better, the more helpful and interesting this thread will be to everyone.
Wow, there are already well over two hundred books on the list.
I'm disappointed that the original was deleted without any notice for bumping.
For those of you that don't realize it, there is no order to this list.
The Illiad The Odyssey Ulysses (Anything by Joyce) The Count of Monte Cristo The Complete Works of Shakespeare The Grapes of Wrath The Great Gatsby Animal Farm 1984 Fear And Loathing in Las Vegas Brave New World Angela's Ashes The World Treasury of Physics, Astronomy, and Mathematics The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz The Deptford Trilogy The Bible Frankenstein Catch 22 Catcher in the Rye Two Solitudes Paradise Lost The Death of Ivan Illytch. Dracula LOTR (Anything by Tolkien) Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy (Anything by Douglas Adams) The Republic The Allegory of the Cave Jane Eyre The Things They Carried Beloved Crime and Punishment For Whom the Bell Tolls The Sun Also Rises Fahrenheit 451 Fight Club Gods Debris Tao of Jeet Kune Do H4rrY p0tt3R!!! OMG!! l0lz0rz!11! Heart of Darkness The Poisonwood Bible All Quiet on the Western Front Anything by Burgess (A Clockwork Orange) The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn Flowers for Algernon The Color Purple Qu'ran Torah Anything by William Faulkner I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings Leaves of Grass Anything by Robert Frost Anything by Emily Dickinson Things Fall Apart On the Road Slaughterhouse-Five Anything by Nietzsche Go Tell it on the Mountain Point Counterpoint Jennifer Government Of Human Bondage The Moral Animal Non-Zero: The Sum of Human Logic The Disposessed The Razor's Edge Temporary Autonomous Zone Power of One A Christmas Carol Anything by Einstein The Chronicles of Narnia Noteable Historical Trials (Vol. 1-4) No Man is an Island: A Selection of Prose of John Donne The New York Public Library Science Desk Reference Culloden Glencoe Aeneid Moby Dick Anything by Will Ferguson (If you're Canadian) Business Communication: Process & Product Neuromancer Anything by Poe The Egyptian Anything by Orwell The Farseer Saga (Anything by Robin Hobb AKA Megan Lindholm) The Wheel of Time Anything by T.H. White A Song of Fire and Ice The Sword of Truth Anything by Tad Williams Anything by David Eddings Anything by Frank Herbert (Dune Series in Particular) Anything by Raymond Feist (Riftwar Saga) The Darksword Trilogy The Death Gate Cycle Sword of Shannara Rose of the Prophet Anything by Michael Moorcock Incarnations of Immortality Series Anything by Steven Brust Tales from the Earthsea Tales of the Otori The Glass Bead Game The Prince The Art of War Anything by Jung Anything by Marx Metamorphosis Gulliver's Travels The Island of Doctor Moreau Oedipus Trilogy (Sophocles) Gulliver's Travels Dante's The Divine Comedy (especially Inferno) Origin of Species Anything by Dickens Anything by Jules Verne Don Quixote This Side of Paradise The Wealth of Nations The Time Machine The Three Musketeers Faust The Dumas Club Long Walk to Freedom Anything by Hunter S. Thompson In the Skin of a Lion Coming up for Air The Motorcycle Diaries The Histories (Herodutus) Song of Solomon Shibumi Breakfast of Champions Despair (Nabokov) Something Happened Ivanhoe Redwall The Dharma Bums The Divine Comedy Selected Works of King Anything by Kerouac The Autobiography of Malcolm X The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Anything about science, history, or religion by Asimov On War Schindler's List Grimm's Fairy Tales Hans Andersen's Fairy Tales The Arabian Nights The Oxford Companion to English Literature On the Good Life Meditations Democracy in America History of Western Philosophy The Wit of Oscar Wilde A History of the English-speaking Peoples Anything by Hawking Silent Spring Island Ishmael A Brief History of Everything Ishmael: An Adventure of the Mind and Spirit Thus Spoke Zarathustra The Millionaire Machine Common Sense Economics Goals! by Brain Tracy Man's Search For Meaning Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates The Clan of the Cave Bear Anna Karenina Bhagavad Gita Sophocles Siddharta Dhalgren Something Happened God Knows Endgame (Script) Voss A Short History Of Nearly Everything Out of Darkness The War Diaries of Weary Dunlop Papillon The Stars My Destination Zop Wallop Common Sense, the Rights of Man, and Other Essential Writings by Thomas Paine The Red and the Black Anything by Balzac (Lost Illusions) Anything by Lovecraft Njal's Saga Anything by Schopenhauer Anything by Rousseau Leviathan From Here to Eternity The Thin Red Line Anything by Brian Greene Anything by Hesse Waiting for Godot: A Tragicomedy in Two Acts The Martian Chronicles Reflections on the Revolution in France Story of Philosophy by Durant The Picture of Dorian Gray One Hundred Years of Solitude Ficciones One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest Anything by Terry Pratchett The Godfather Rosemary's Baby Anything by Philip K. Dick Songs of Innocence and Experience by William Blake L'Etranger by Albert Camus
Many more to come when I have a moment to think about it.
I'm going to update my list up front for incase/when this thread gets large to make it usable without taking the time to go through pages of posts.
[This message has been edited by Eudaemonistic_SOB (edited 03-08-2006).]
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#2
 2005-07-20, 02:03
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I must say:
The Great Gatsby. 1984. Brave New World. The Death of Ivan Illytch. Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas.
-Val
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#3
 2005-07-20, 15:45
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anything written by Tolkien can't lose Dracula - This book does start off rather tediously, but once you get into it, it becomes an absolutely fantastic read.
If someone doesn't mention 'Hitchikers guide to the galaxy' or any of the other books in that 'series' - i shall commit virtual suicide on behalf of Douglas Adams.
Yikes, also - The Republic and The allegory of the cave. Can't hurt to have some philosophical input. arx_
[This message has been edited by arx (edited 07-20-2005).]
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#4
 2005-07-20, 18:16
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Angela's Ashes Jane Eyre Julius Caesar
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#5
 2005-07-20, 19:39
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
let try (((if possible))) to get down to a 15 or 20 book list that we can (or most of us) can agree on.
To start out everyone post their ideas, then later we'll start making cuts.
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#6
 2005-07-20, 19:41
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by arx: Dracula - This book does start off rather tediously, but once you get into it, it becomes an absolutely fantastic read.
I disagree, I thought the book was terrible and the ending was a tremendous cop-out. I think a different author could have made it a much better story. It was incredibly dull and boring. I'm also going to disagree with "The Complete Works of Shakespeare" simply because I'm not a fan of Shakespeare. I think everyone should read at least one of his works, though. Definitely 1984 and Catch 22, also Tolkein's books. Hmmm... The Things They Carried (Tim O'Brien, I think) Beloved (Toni Morrison) Crime and Punishment (Dostoevsky) For Whom the Bell Tolls (at least one Hemingway should be included in here) That's all for now. I'll post more later. [This message has been edited by devil's haircut (edited 07-20-2005).]
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#7
 2005-07-20, 19:50
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by mattbowilly: let try (((if possible))) to get down to a 15 or 20 book list that we can (or most of us) can agree on.
To start out everyone post their ideas, then later we'll start making cuts.
No. This thread isn't a place to agree or find Printed Matter's favorite books. This thread should include as many books that are worth reading as you can think of in order to give people ideas for what they might want to read. [This message has been edited by Eudaemonistic_SOB (edited 07-20-2005).]
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#8
 2005-07-20, 20:19
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by devil's haircut: I disagree, I thought the book was terrible and the ending was a tremendous cop-out. I think a different author could have made it a much better story. It was incredibly dull and boring.
True the ending lacked any melodrama which was a typical theme running throughout the book. However, on a second read of the ending - it all becomes much clearer and the finer points shine out and make you appreciate it all the more. Calling a book boring is a pointless exercise - that's just your opinion. True another author may have been able to improve upon the work, but it was to Bram Stoker that this idea occurred, not to 'another author'. arx_
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#9
 2005-07-20, 23:10
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Fahrenheit 451 Fight Club Survivor Choke Gods debris Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas Brave New World Tao of Jeet Kune Do
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#10
 2005-07-20, 23:33
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
H4rrY p0tt3R!!! OMG!! l0lz0rz!11!
JK is teh s00 much b3tt3r than teh sux0r Hemmingway!1@
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#11
 2005-07-21, 02:48
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by arx: Calling a book boring is a pointless exercise - that's just your opinion.
Exactly, it's my opinion, which I stated. There's nothing pointless about stating one's opinion. If people didn't state opinions, this website wouldn't be here.
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#12
 2005-07-21, 04:25
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Here's my list (I know some of these have already been said, but eh):
�Lord of the Flies- William Golding �Heart of Darkness- Joseph Conrad �The Grapes of Wrath- John Steinbeck �1984- George Orwell �Animal Farm- George Orwell �The Poisonwood Bible- Barbara Kingsolver �All Quiet on the Western Front- Erich Maria Remarque �The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn- Mark Twain �Flowers for Algernon- Daniel Keyes �The Color Purple- Alice Walker �The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and the Hobbit!)- J.R.R. Tolkien �The Bible and perhaps the Qu'ran and/or Torah
Also, perhaps something by:
�Toni Morrison �Edith Wharton �William Faulkner �Ernest Hemingway �Edgar Allan Poe
I just haven't really read much by them yet.
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#13
 2005-07-21, 05:34
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I'm going to add "I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings" by Maya Angelou, "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman, and anything by Robert Frost or Emily Dickinson.
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#14
 2005-07-21, 06:43
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Only a partial list, also I left out anything that had already been said..
� Things Fall Apart Achebe � On the Road Kerouac � Slaughterhouse-five Vonnegut � Go Tell it on the Mountain Baldwin � Of Human Bondage Maughanm � The Living Reed Buck � The Good Earth Buck � The Townsman Buck � Song of Solomon Morrison � Point Counterpoint Huxley � Jacob�s Hands Huxley � Jennifer Government Barry � The Jungle Sinclair � Death of a Salesman Miller
Especially Of Human Bondage...
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#15
 2005-07-21, 07:39
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I'll give TWO good tokens to whoever finds links me to the first set of books.
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#16
 2005-07-22, 05:54
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
With Fire and Sword by Henryk Sienkiweiz (sp?) is an amazing read despite being over 1,000 pages.
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#17
 2005-07-22, 11:30
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by mattbowilly: � Jennifer Government Barry
Great book! Love the game it inspired online: http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi Have to add: The Moral Animal and Non-Zero: The Sum of Human Logic by Robert Wright. and about 10 others, but it's 5:32 a.m. and I have to get ready for work.
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#18
 2005-07-22, 11:41
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Disposessed, by ursual k leguin (must read for any wannabe anarchists)
The Razor's Edge, by W. Somerset Maugham..
Hm, I include many of the books others have posted, so I won't repeat..
Oh, Temporary Autonomous Zone by Hakim Bey
If it wasn't almost 7 am, I could think of more.. I'll come back to this later.
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#19
 2005-07-22, 13:29
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by napoleon_complex: Angela's Ashes Jane Eyre
Oh I love those two! I have to say the Harry Potter books is a great way to get children/young adults reading. I really disliked The Great Gatsby unlike a few of you it seems.. Lord of the Flies - great book was one of my favorite that I studied at school. Power of one - Bryce Courtenay [This message has been edited by kAtE- (edited 07-22-2005).]
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#20
 2005-07-22, 15:29
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The giver, to add to the list.
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 2005-07-22, 16:20
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by AngryFemme: Great book! Love the game it inspired online: [URL=http: //www.nati onstates.n et/cgi-bin /index.cgi ]http://ww w.nationst ates.net/c gi-bin/index.cgi[/URL]
I play nation states... or at least i uset to. it got old sorta fast.
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#22
 2005-07-22, 17:08
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
A Christmas Carol. Lord of the Flies. Fahrenheit 451. Yes, definately.
About Time or some other book about relativity. Since Einstein and his theory are so famous and yet few know what it explains something so unexpected yet true.
[This message has been edited by Ecephalothorax (edited 07-22-2005).]
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#23
 2005-07-22, 17:59
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by kAtE-: Oh I love those two!
I have to say the Harry Potter books is a great way to get children/young adults reading. I really disliked The Great Gatsby unlike a few of you it seems..
Lord of the Flies - great book was one of my favorite that I studied at school.
Power of one - Bryce Courtenay
I agree with everything you just said. Especially the Great Gatsby bit. I hated that book.
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#24
 2005-07-22, 19:04
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Keriba: I hated that book.
Can you explain, intelligently, why in another thread?
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#25
 2005-07-23, 00:03
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
hmm... my list seems distinctively different of the most... I think I blame that to getting not so many translated books here, and not just crappy taste :P Tales from the Earthsea - Ursula le Guin Tales of the Otori - Lian Hearn About anything from Edgar Allan Poe Crime and Punishment (or some other old russian piece of litterature) Farseer saga - Robin Hobb, simply because the language is beautiful Neuromancer and/or Mona Lisa overdrive - William Gibson Midsummernights dream and the Tempest - Shakespeare (as if someone didnt know the writer) The Egyptian (Sinuhe)- Mika Waltari The Glass Bead Game - Hermann Hesse And if comic books are counted, Sandman series from Neil Gaiman  And, of course, most things from George Orwell, and everything from Tolkien
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#26
 2005-07-23, 04:19
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Eudaemonistic_SOB: Can you explain, intelligently, why in another thread?
Well... I�m ashamed to say that I probably can't explain all that intelligently why I don�t like it. I actually didn�t even finish the book. (It�s the only school book that I haven�t, actually.) I stopped a few chapters from the end, a bit after the chick got run over by Gatsby. And you know, maybe it wasn�t even the book itself that I disliked. Maybe I was just uncomfortable with the time period it depicted and how unhappy everyone was. The 20�s really was a shitty decade. Or maybe it was something about the style. As I said, I can't really explain intelligently. Just, something about that book kind of threw me off. I hated slogging through it. Dr. T. J. Eckleburg was a nice touch though. I think I�ll reread (and finish!) it sometime so I can better explain. (Oh, and I didn�t think this post deserved a completely new thread, so I posted it here, but if you want, I can start a Great Gatsby thread.)
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#27
 2005-07-23, 07:16
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
You don't like The Great Gatsby? That is one of the few books I liked from school.
Also, for some reason after doing a report on Robert Frost...I was really turned off by him.
I usually don't like Dickens, and I would suggest Ursela Le Guin, I mean I am reading her EarthSea series, which I read as a kid and I love them a lot.
Although the language isn't mistifying I still like it.
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#28
 2005-07-23, 07:30
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Well the thing that impresses me with your list is it's great variety. For instance putting Verne and Steinbeck, the Republic and the Koran together. All those books will appeal to different people at different times in their lives. For instance, I read everything I could get by Verne when I was little, much to the disdain of adults who thought I was faking. And I read The Grapes of Wrath when I was oh 16 or 17, and never got it. All it is a seething jew gloating over the collapse of gentile society. And the Republic is a mosterpiece, while the Quo'ran (sounds klingon) pretty much depends on a belief that the angel Gabriel came and dictated it to some lice encrusted raghead. And what is the 3Muskateers doing there? Besides being a cracking good read, I don't see why its "required". In fact I havent read half of those books, and most likely never will. Is it supposed to be campleat? What criteria did you use for drawing it up?
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#29
 2005-07-23, 08:59
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Dumas Club - Arturo Perez Reverte, and yes, that is Dumas as in Alexandre.
Long Walk to Freedom - Nelson Mandella.
The Rum Diary - Hunter S. Thompson
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Hunter S. Thompson
In the Skin of a Lion - Michael Ondaatje
1984, Animal Farm and Coming up for Air - All by Orwell, and I cant believe how few people have read Coming up for Air, one of his greatest.
The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
The Motorcycle Diaries - Ernesto 'Che' Guevara.
Travelling with Che Guevara: The Making of a Revolutionary - Alberto Granado.
The Iliad and the Oddysey - Homer.
The Histories - Herodutus
I dont like saying this is "required reading" as I dont think anyone should be required to do something they dont want to do, but I think everyone can learn a lot from those books.
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#30
 2005-07-23, 22:02
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
as i lay dying (faulkner) song of solomon (morrison) invisible monsters (palahniuk) shibumi (trevanian) the loo sanction (trevanian) breakfast of champions (vonnegut) the clan of the cave bear (auel) fahrenheit 451 (bradbury) despair (nabokov) catch 22 (heller) something happened (heller) finnegan's wake (joyce) a portrait of the artist as a young man (joyce) ivanhoe (scott) redwall (jacques) mossflower (jacques) a wrinkle in time [and the rest of that series](l'engle) bless me ultima (anaya) edit: the dharma bums (kerouac) slaughterhouse five (vonnegut) 1984 (orwell) any other vonnegut stuff any other palahniuk stuff the divine comedy (alighieri) pet sematary (king) the shining (king)
[This message has been edited by cheapandugly (edited 07-23-2005).]
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#31
 2005-07-25, 02:59
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anybody have some non-fiction to offer up?
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 2005-07-25, 08:51
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quote: Originally posted by Eudaemonistic_SOB: Anybody have some non-fiction to offer up?
the autobiography of malcolm x (haley) that's the only completely interesting non-fiction i've tackled in quite a while but how bout historical fiction... trinity, and mila 18 (uris)
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#33
 2005-07-25, 15:24
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quote: Originally posted by Eudaemonistic_SOB: Anybody have some non-fiction to offer up?
The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Anything about science, history, or religion by Asimov. The art of war by Sun-tze. On War by Clausewitz. The Republic by Plato.
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#34
 2005-07-25, 22:27
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quote: Originally posted by Eudaemonistic_SOB: Anybody have some non-fiction to offer up?
The Webster  ? Nah, seriously, Schindler's list, by Thomas Keneally (?), and Five Rings. Btw, would anyone here know who wrote the latter one? Or is it only known as 'that asian dude'? [This message has been edited by LockeTM (edited 07-25-2005).]
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#35
 2005-07-26, 01:02
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Musashi?
The Universe in a Nutshell, Stephen Hawking. Chicken Soup series, various. Silent Spring, Rachel Carson. Any Old Iron, Anthony Burgess.
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 2005-07-27, 00:03
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I would recommened Island by Aldous Huxley. I enjoyed it alot more than Brave New World to be honest. I'll also recommend A Brief History of Everything by Ken Wilbur, and Ishmael by Daniel Quinn.
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 2005-07-27, 03:46
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A few on my list were non-fiction, The Histories, for example, is the primary source of information when looking at the ancient Spartan and Persian empires. Long Walk to Freedom is DEFINATELY non-fiction. It is required reading on any level, as his plight is one of the most important for the African people.
Also The Motorcycle Diaries and Travelling with Che Guevara are non fiction as well, and well worth a read for anyone who actually wants to understand the nature of Che.
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#38
 2005-08-01, 00:47
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by skza: The giver, to add to the list.
If you mean The Giver by Lois Lowry, then I have to disagree. I loved this book when I was 11 but it by no means a signifigant or even particularily good book. Although it is simple and short, it is a good read for younger people, younger being between the ages of 10-14.
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 2005-08-02, 00:47
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Apathetic: If you mean The Giver by Lois Lowry, then I have to disagree. I loved this book when I was 11 but it by no means a signifigant or even particularily good book. Although it is simple and short, it is a good read for younger people, younger being between the ages of 10-12.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
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 2005-08-03, 06:27
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I am shocked and appalled that Thus Spoke Zarathustra is not on there. The pinnacle of Western philosophy, unrepresented? Blasphemy!
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 2005-08-06, 21:49
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The Millionaire Machine should definitely be required reading for everyone, because it explains the importance of compound interest and how anyone with a job can become wealthy. Common Sense Economics is also a very good read, because it will give you a better understanding of how the world works. Goals! by Brain Tracy should seriously be read by everyone, because it explains how to accomplish nearly any goal imaginable.
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#42
 2005-08-07, 00:34
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Thanks for posting this thread. I was looking for the old one this morning and almost started a new one, but since I don't post here that often, I didn't want to incur flames for posting the thread when I thought it could possibly be archived somewhere that I didn't know about.
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#43
 2005-08-07, 02:00
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quote: Originally posted by Gorloche: I am shocked and appalled that Thus Spoke Zarathustra is not on there. The pinnacle of Western philosophy, unrepresented? Blasphemy!
"shocked" "appalled" "blasphemy" ... yikes!! calm down!
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 2005-08-07, 04:47
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quote: Originally posted by mattbowilly: "shocked" "appalled" "blasphemy" ... yikes!!
No, those sum it up quite nicely. Paigey: I was bumping the previous thread, but I let it lapse for a few days and it got deleted along with a few other choice threads. Printed Matter just didn't get a mod in time to save them. [This message has been edited by Eudaemonistic_SOB (edited 08-07-2005).]
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What sucks even more is the fact that I was compiling a new list today on notepad and my computer crashed and I lost at least 60 that I'd recalled.
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#46
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I'll leave ou the obvious ones, these are just books I like:
The Giver Clan of the Cave Bear And a variety of poetry. Take your pick.
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#47
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Fierce invalids home from hot climates - Tom Robbins. great literary style and gets really deep if you take the book for more than face value.
Man's search for meaning - Viktor E Frankl. how he and many others survived the holocaust mentally. great psychology read.
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#48
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quote: Originally posted by LockeTM: The Webster ? Nah, seriously, Schindler's list, by Thomas Keneally (?), and Five Rings.
Btw, would anyone here know who wrote the latter one? Or is it only known as 'that asian dude'?
Miyamoto Musashi, and I believe the proper name is The Book of Five Spheres. Anna Karenina - Tolstoy
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#49
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I see people saying that The Bible/Qu'ran/Torah is good. But I am going to say the Bhagavad Gita As It Is. It is originally like Hindu or something but the guy comments after every passage and uses references to all religions. It fits my philosophy better than the others.
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Add the Dhammapada and take out the torah, as it is part of the bible. Also, specify the CATHOLIC bible, as it has seven more books. Book of mormon might be useful too. In addition, Old Man and the Sea. Classic, short, and beautiful.
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#51
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War and Peace? Hello? By that one guy I can't spell his name? Great book.
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tolstoy
edit: war and peace isn't worth the time anyway
[This message has been edited by cheapandugly (edited 08-15-2005).]
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#53
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A clockwork Orange
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#54
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quote: Originally posted by cheapandugly: tolstoy...war and peace isn't worth the time anyway.
That's why it's not on the list.
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#55
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why read Flower's For Algernon? i've read that and got nothing out of it. what did u guys get out of it?
and siddartha? worst book ever.. no action
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#56
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quote: Originally posted by stick person: why read Flowers For Algernon? i've read that and got nothing out of it. what did u guys get out of it?
and siddartha? worst book ever.. no action
Read them again. Maybe you'll get something the second time around. Edit: Flowers For Algernon has always struck me as a commentary on how troubling self-awareness can become. Siddartha has many interesting themes, but you have to be interested, or have a basic understanding, of buddhism or hinduism. [This message has been edited by Euda (edited 08-16-2005).]
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#57
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yea i got the same thing out of Flowers For Algernon but that's it, just that. like he sees how other people see him and feels like an ass, big deal. is it just sayin like be careful what u wish for too?
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#58
 2005-08-16, 14:23
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I've always taken Flowers for Algernon as a warning to be aware of your environment; it seems to be a warning of walking through life unawares.
Many people aren't self-aware and this book has a tendency to make people re-examine their environment and relationships.
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#59
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War and Peace, not worth the time, that is the most idiotic statement i,ve ever heard, i guess i shouldnt be surprised coming from a person who has to edit their replys the majority of time
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I'll include the ones I haven't seen listed so far. Your initial list seems pretty complete though Eudaemonistic.
Fiction: Something Happened - Joseph Heller God Knows - Joseph Heller Endgame - Samuel Beckett script Voss - Patrick White
Non-fiction: A Short History Of Nearly Everything - Bill Bryson Out of Darkness - Zoltan Torey The War Diaries of Weary Dunlop - EE Dunlop Papillon - Henri Charriere (not sure whether to classify this as fiction or not)
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#61
 2005-08-17, 05:39
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Holy crap! That is one intimidating list right there. I've read a few on there but not much. I have no clue where to start.
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#62
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Goners ru12, That made me appriciate good books.
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#63
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two obscure ones, but my favorite books of all time: zod wallop by william browning spencer and the stars my destination by alfred bester
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Thomas Paine's Common Sense and Rights of Man.
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#65
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Some of my favorites: Discworld series. Paul Kidd. I've only read three of his books, the Greyhawk ones. Whisper of Wings, which I haven't read, had great reviews. The Thran by J Robert King The Fall of Reach and Firststrike by Eric Nylund The Silmarillion My favorite series from years ago, Animorphs, written by K A Applegate. The Black Science by Dr Haha Lung and Christopher B Prowant Eaters of the Dead by Michael Crichton Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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#66
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No one has posted Dante's The Divine Comedy and I most definatly recommend The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, even though im still working on the trillogy (even though there are 4 books).
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quote: Originally posted by 5150: War and Peace, not worth the time, that is the most idiotic statement i,ve ever heard, i guess i shouldnt be surprised coming from a person who has to edit their replys the majority of time
Depends on how much your time is worth. And Euda takes time out to edit his replies, something you (others, including I) could learn from. Echewing capitalisation was doubtless daring and innovative 100 years ago, now it just looks sloppy. One last question. Did you read W+P or are you just mouthing off? And to Zombie Killer, which translation of Dante do you mean? Even in the original, I understand that due to it's age it's somewhat archaic. And it relies heavily upon medieval myth and ideas(for instance dante stumbles upon the actual entrance to hell, and hell is a very literal place filled with unchaste girls and atheists. Not what I want kids reading.
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quote: Originally posted by Apathetic: If you mean The Giver by Lois Lowry, then I have to disagree. I loved this book when I was 11 but it by no means a signifigant or even particularily good book. Although it is simple and short, it is a good read for younger people, younger being between the ages of 10-14.
yeah the giver blows if you're above about age 13. I reccomend Flatland by Edwin A. Abbot, The Prince by Niccolo Machiavelli, and Neuromancer (really anything) by William Gibson. btw The Allegory of the Cave is all part and parcel of the republic (it's an allegory socrates uses in discussing virtue and philosophy) so you can remove it from the list.
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#69
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I havn't scrolled through all of the replies and I don't remember everything Euda posted, so I'll make a short list of my own.
The Autobiography of Malcolm X- The Count of Monte Cristo - Dumas Dune -Herbert Kite Runner - Hosseini The Grapes of Wrath - Stienbeck The Red and The Black - Stendahl A Tale of Two Cities - Dickens For Whom the Bell Tolls - Hemingway Lord of The Flies - Golding Lord of The Rings - Tolkien Harry Potter - Rowlings Moby Dick Beloved - Morrison The Jungle- Sinclair The Three Musketeers - Dumas Great Expections- Dickens
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 2005-08-22, 04:18
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"nights master" and "faces under water" by tanith lee.
these are in an odd way what I would call 'midevil techno-thrillers'. if any of you were fans of thief series of games, all of lee's books have that same type of feel, especially the more recent ones- like faces under water.
they're unfortunately out of print, however.
next on the list are "von bek" and "hawkmoon", by michael moorcock. these are classic germanic high fantasy books- von bek in particular is very compelling with its portrayal of the devil and his followers.
anything by HP Lovecraft (how could you bastards not mention him?). I don't mention him out of merritt for the scariness of his stories: I mention him because his writing style is obviously that of someone who loves to write, and seeing as I value quality as I value very little else- these books are a must-read.
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 2005-08-22, 04:53
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Dictionary!
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#72
 2005-08-22, 17:50
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Siddhartha A Clockwork Orange
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#73
 2005-08-24, 01:29
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Issue313
is an hour a day too much time for someone to read a book of such intellectual depth? as long as my thoughts are conveyed lucidly i am indifferent to syntax and other conformities of the written word yes i,ve read "war and peace" along with thousands of other books and i don,t see why people would bother editing their replies on the net, it is not a dissertation or precedential case law
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#74
 2005-08-24, 14:49
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The most conducive books to humanity are the great philosophical works � Plato, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer & Rousseau write in brilliant prose too and can be considered great works of literature in their own right.
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anything by Garcia Marquez (Rabassa and Grossman both do/did great translations)
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 2005-08-25, 08:25
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- Chronicles of Narnia
- Lord of the Rings trilogy
- Hobbit
- Siddhartha
- Saga of the Volsungs
- Beowulf
- Iliad
- Odyssey
- The Once and Future King
- Tao te Ching
- Thus Spake Zarathustra
- The Art of War
- Book of Five Rings
- Revolt Against The Modern World
- Ride The Tiger
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#77
 2005-08-25, 11:36
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Here comes my list - The Illiad The Odyssey Animal Farm The Great Gatsby The Catcher In The Rye 1984 Brave New World Lord Of The Rings (trilogy) The Hobbit The Republic The World Treasury of Physics, Astronomy, and Mathematics Paradise Lost (  ) A Tale Of Two Cities Pride and Prejudice Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas The Allegory of the Cave The Complete Works of Shakespear The Call of Cthulhu Fight Club The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn Twilight of The Idols (anything by Nietzsche) *all of Dickinson* *all of Poe* *all of Tennyson* I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings Moby Dick The Art of War Communist Manifesto Gulliver's Travels The Time Machine Aesop's Fables The Redwall Saga *anything by Issac Asimov* *anything by Hawking* *anything by H.P. Lovecraft* On Liberty The Wit of Oscar Wilde Dante's Inferno The Grapes of Wrath Lord of The Flies The Moral Animal The Giver Great Expectations [This message has been edited by Paradise Lost (edited 08-25-2005).]
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#78
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quote: Originally posted by 5150: Issue313
[B][QUOTE] is an hour a day too much time for someone to read a book of such intellectual depth?
Well that's a thread alll in itself. quote: as long as my thoughts are conveyed lucidly i am indifferent to syntax and other conformities of the written word.
Well naturally. I never edit replies for spelling. quote: yes i,ve read "war and peace" along with thousands of other books
[/b] Thousands??? Amazing if true. quote: and i don,t see why people would bother editing their replies on the net, it is not a dissertation or precedential case law
To make an additional point or clarify an old one, occasionally to answer a question and advoid making a new post. EDIT: Why isn't Njal's Saga required reading?? Okay Ill add it. 1. Njals Saga. [This message has been edited by Issue313 (edited 08-28-2005).]
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#79
 2005-08-30, 05:47
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BUSTED: Stone Cowboys, Narco-Lords & Washington's War on Drugs Edited By Mike Gray, Writers: Oliver Stone, Charles Bowden, Rowena Young, Maurice Frank, Keith Stroup, Alexandra Eyle, Maia Szalavitz, Adam Smith, Mathew Brzezinski, Jack Hitt, Phillippe Bourgois, Dave Kopel, Graham Boyd, Kurt Schmoke, Craig Reinarman, Russ Baker, Christopher Hitchens, Milton Friedman, Ethan Nadelmann, William F. Buckley Jr., P.J. O'Rourke, Joe McNamara, A.M. Rosenthal, Barry McCaffrey...(and more)
The book is collection of writings from a shitload of people -just look at the list- who in their own detailed way critique the war on drugs. Considered by some to be the Anti-prohibitionist's bible, if you will.
If you're pro-drug war after reading this book you're a retard.
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#80
 2005-09-03, 21:44
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Atlas Shrugged East of Eden Grapes of Wrath 1984 Brave New World Count of Monte Cristo The Fountainhead As I Lay Dying A Separate Peace (I hated it, but it still has a good message) Walden Naked Lunch One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest Alicia: My Story Last of the Mohicans To Kill a Mockingbird Animal Farm
The Bible
I'm by no means Christian, or religious in any way, for that matter, but the Bible has some sweet messages, not to mention badass stories. You don't have to believe it, but if you take it as a work of fiction, its an awesome book.
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#81
 2005-09-04, 19:00
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I find it disappointing that James Jones' "From Here to Eternity" has not been mentioned. I read the book my sophmore year, and still some of the messages from it astound me and I still have an almost unhealthy fixation with re-reading the pieces of the book containing Jack Malloy.
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#82
 2005-09-06, 19:06
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Although not a book, I would recommend Titus Andronicus, a play by the big Willie Shakespeare. I don't know why I'm drawn to this play, but it is certainly not short on action. With all the revenge and plotting done by the characters, it shows awesome character development. Certainly not for the faint of heart though.
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#83
 2005-09-07, 05:09
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Neverwhere - Neil Gaiman Thought it was a great book, but starting to wonder if perhaps "Neil Gaiman" is a bad word on this board. I never see anything on his books. I like American Gods and especially Good Omens too.
The Elegant Universe / The Fabric of the Cosmos - Brian Greene I found these to be great book on modern physics. He does a really great job of putting everything in layman terms. If you like these or are interested in other books then stephen hawking has some great stuff out too.
The Exorcist - William Peter Blatty Not my favorite because of prose or story or anything like that, but because it really helped me understand just how difficult it is to determine and define an "exorcism" in this day and age. Even in the book it's not clear if it is a for real exorcism up to the end.
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#84
 2005-09-07, 12:40
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The criteria for books to be on the list should not be "what's a good read" but "what could really make you look at the world differently."
I don't think Tolkien, Redwall, most of Shakespeare, and a few others should be on there.
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#85
 2005-09-07, 18:43
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quote: Originally posted by Tarnak: The criteria for books to be on the list should not be "what's a good read" but "what could really make you look at the world differently."
Books are only books when you boil it all down. Books don't change people, people change themselves. What may seem like life altering concepts to one person may seem like common sense, or even completely ludicrous, to another. Edit: Oh, and there is no definitive set of criteria. [This message has been edited by Euda (edited 09-07-2005).]
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mein kampf by my old pal adolf
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#87
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First off, i agree that calling dracula a boring book is a waste of time, that's just opinion.Say you found it boring.
Btw, if any of these have been mentioned take that as a vote for this book in some form of ultimate list.
-Demian (herman hesse) -fear and loathing in las vegas (thompson) -1984 -Edgar Allan poe, either poetry or stories, preferably both. -The ORIGINAL dune series (Frank Herbert) -thus spake zarathustra (friedrich nietszche) -H.P. Lovecraft -At least some shakespeare -Waiting for godot (Beckett) -LOTR (tolkien) -Steppenwolf (herman hesse) -Alice's Adventures in wonderland/through the looking glass (carroll) -Frankenstein (shelley) -American psycho (easton ellis)...
that last one's optional for those who can stomach it.
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#88
 2005-09-14, 02:21
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quote: Originally posted by Count Kraigula: The Fall of Reach and Firststrike by Eric Nylund
for being based off of halo, those were suprisingly good
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#89
 2005-09-19, 01:27
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The Tao of Pooh The Te of Piglet
;-p Also
The Story of Philosophy
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#90
 2005-09-27, 19:47
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"I hate vulgar realism in literature. The man who could call a spade a spade should be compelled to use one. It is the only thing he is fit for." -Wilde
Or bump, if you prefer.
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Mook's List (prepare to be shocked and awed):
- Ulysses by James Joyce
Probably everybody on this forum has heard one of my rants on how amazing and profound this book is--it's easily my favorite of all time, and this is mostly due to the fact that it's probably the most complex book ever written. I am a reader who likes being challenged by the books that he reads, and Ulysses is, to me, the ultimate literary challenge--I know it is a real possibility that I may never fully understand it, and that is why I like it so much.
- The Catcher in the Rye by JD Salinger
A lot of people view this as a "required HS reading" book and dismiss it at that. I cannot protest against this view more vehemently; Holden Caulfield is one of the most identifiable characters, and probably one of the greatest modern heroes, in literature. Catcher in the Rye is one of the few books that has brought me to tears, though as of my 2nd reading I still can't pinpoint exactly why. Third is the charm, as they say.
- As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Faulkner has a way of making the characters' situations at the end of the story so FUBAR you're left with your mouth gaping. This is no exception. As I Lay Dying is probably the most emotionally developed novel I have ever read--this is made even more impressive by its length; for instance, the character Jewel only has one passage, but it is instantly clear in 3 pages exactly what his emotions are on the plot, no questions asked.
- Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
I am a teacher's aide for our school's AP Literature teacher; this year she told me her class wouldn't be reading Heart of Darkness because too many kids complained that it was "too long." This just goes to show high school kids are morons. In the first place, Conrad has the most beautiful prose of almost any author, in my opinion. Second, this is one of the most nuanced and abstract novels that I have ever read--like I said above, I love challenge, and Conrad packing a highly developed theme into some 90 pages, almost completely through descriptive narrative, is a challenge.
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More later. quote: Originally posted by Tarnak: I don't think Tolkien, Redwall, most of Shakespeare, and a few others should be on there.
If you don't feel Shakespeare belongs on this list, you obviously have never read Hamlet.
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 2005-09-29, 15:11
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Reflection on The Revolution in France - Edmund Burke
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#93
 2005-09-29, 19:56
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The books on Taoism sound interesting Doobie Ex. The use of classic characters to explain complex concepts is interesting.
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#94
 2005-10-01, 23:30
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If you're a Westerner:
The Bible.
The collected works of William Shakespeare.
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire - Gibbon.
The Illiad and Odyssey.
The rest I feel is optional according to preferences. For example while 1984 contains powerful ideas nearly a third of it is a monologue on Ing Soc.
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#95
 2005-10-03, 02:14
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i think this should be added: The Picture Of Dorian Grey
as i recall it was a great book.
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#96
 2005-10-09, 18:18
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Adding to the list:
One Hundred Years of Solitude--Garcia Marquez Fictions--J.L Borges
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i was wondering... where would a place be to get the book 1984 on cassete i am going on a road trip come christmas and i wanted to listen to it
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Machiavelli's The Prince.-as it happens, I myself have not yet read this, but I've read bits and I will read it in it's entirety before I lay me down in permanence.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey, absolutely wonderful book. Very good example of the kind of psychological abuse that can be found in psych wards.
Politics by Plato. Most of the ancient Greco-roman literature should be required reading for any Westerner.
Basically, all of the major religious texts of the world. It's foolish to put all of one's faith in one idea, when one is wholly ignorant of the possibilities.
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 2005-10-10, 17:54
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quote: Originally posted by Smokeyb: i was wondering... where would a place be to get the book 1984 on cassete i am going on a road trip come christmas and i wanted to listen to it
Here's a link to an audiobook cassette of Nineteen Eighty-Four: http://doiop.com/rg9jb8
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 2005-10-11, 12:38
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#101
 2005-10-14, 15:34
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The fucking magician series by Raymond E Feist! The most entertaining and oft-read series of books in my (if i do say so myself) rather impressive library.
Edit: Woot page 3!
[This message has been edited by Garrett (edited 10-14-2005).]
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#102
 2005-10-18, 02:16
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I'm gonna write these down before I forget them, and then read the rest of the posts...
Anything by heinlen, especially starship tropers Everything by Steven Brust, especially agyar Gods Debris, by the same guy who did the dilbert cartoons.
By the way, I have heard of "steal this book", but never read it. can somone tell me what it is before I liberate a copy?
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#103
 2005-10-18, 02:30
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Duck: By the way, I have heard of "steal this book", but never read it. can somone tell me what it is before I liberate a copy?
http://www.eriswerks.org/steal.html
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#104
 2005-10-18, 02:40
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Thank you.
Also, I don't think I've seen edgar allen poe on the list. he struck me as the preincarnation of Hunter S. Thompson.
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#105
 2005-10-18, 02:43
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Duck: Also, I don't think I've seen edgar allen poe on the list. he struck me as the preincarnation of Hunter S. Thompson.
I don't see that at all, explain? Oh and I did include him. [This message has been edited by Paradise Lost (edited 10-18-2005).]
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#106
 2005-10-18, 03:43
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Paradise Lost: I don't see that at all, explain?
I don't see the connection either. And of course Poe is on the list, you should look more carefully.
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#107
 2005-10-18, 04:14
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I probabily need to read more of both of their stuff. I got a clear message that addiction ruins your life from both of them, From Thompson's fear and loathing in las vegas, and Poe's drunkin lifestyle and depressed poetry. Their styles were completely different though.
I'll try again tomorrow, been far to long sense I've read either of their stuff.
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#108
 2005-10-21, 21:23
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anything by Terry Pratchett.
Intellectually-based abstract comedy with several complex social themes.
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#109
 2005-10-22, 05:53
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anyone that liked the original Star Wars trilogy, should read The Han Solo Trilogy by A.C. Crispin.
"Braindroppins", "Napalm & Silly Putty", and "When Will Jesus Bring the Porkchops?" by George Carlin I think also deserves a read through.
[This message has been edited by TJTay89 (edited 10-22-2005).]
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#110
 2005-11-20, 06:04
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The eternal silence of these infinite spaces fills me with dread. - Blaise Pascal
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#111
 2005-11-28, 01:49
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anything by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman
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#112
 2005-12-06, 16:02
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Declaration of Independence and Other Great Documents of American History: 1775-1865 - Edited by John Grafton On Liberty - John Stuart Mill The Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis - Ludwig Von Mises A History of Western Philosophy - Bertrand Russell Last and First Men, The Star Maker - Olaf Stapledon A Short History of the World - J.M. Roberts Meditations - Marcus Aurelius Ethics - Aristotle The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
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#113
 2005-12-07, 22:32
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Life of Dorian Gray.
I enjoyed it muchly.
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#114
 2005-12-08, 00:21
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance-Robert M. Pirsig
This book kicks ass.
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#115
 2005-12-09, 04:01
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
the band "caroline's spine"'s lyrics book
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#116
 2006-01-20, 03:55
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I'm glad this wasn't lost.
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#117
 2006-01-27, 22:23
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
If you like A Song of Ice and Fire, you'll most likely enjoy Malazan Book of the Fallen - my favourite series.
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#118
 2006-02-03, 18:48
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Giver is a cheap version of 1984. It also has a bad ending.
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#119
 2006-02-03, 19:22
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by crazed_hamster: The Life of Dorian Gray.
I enjoyed it muchly.
do you mean the Picture of Dorian Grey, or is this another, unrelated book? I'm not srue if its been mentioned yet, but I just finished reading it and I'd have to say Shantaram, by Gregory David Roberts. It is by and far one of the best books I've ever read, and it's a true story. I loved it so much. The man's a fucking genius with words. Yah, so, read it. It really is that good.
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#120
 2006-02-12, 11:01
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
My list: I am Legend by Richard Matheson Rosemary's Baby by Ira Levin The Time Machine by H.G. Wells The Andromeda Strain by Michael Chichton (infact most books by Michton should be up there, but not all)
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#121
 2006-02-12, 12:23
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Anything by David Gemmell. Anything by Raymond E. Fiest. Farseer Saga by Robin Hobb. (she was good untill she started using magic and dragons.) Mossflower Series by Brian Jaques. Warrior by Donald E. Mcqinn. Anvil of the Stars by Greg Bear. (i think) Split Infinity by Piers Anthony. Emprise Series by Michael P. Kube. Foundation Series by Issac Asimov. Enders Games by Orson Scott Card.
[This message has been edited by Fai1safe (edited 03-07-2006).]
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#122
 2006-03-02, 06:13
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer
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#123
 2006-03-06, 23:29
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
Fai1safe, Ender's Game was by Orson Scott Card, and yes, it does belong on the list. As well as A Breif History of Time, by Stephen Hawking. The Godfather, Mario Puzo (not sure if this one has been posted), and I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell, by Tucker Max.
[This message has been edited by Patrick Bateman (edited 03-07-2006).]
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#124
 2006-03-06, 23:51
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Garfunkel: I'm not srue if its been mentioned yet, but I just finished reading it and I'd have to say Shantaram, by Gregory David Roberts.
It sounds interesting, I'm going to check it out.
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#125
 2006-03-07, 00:47
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
The Man In The High Castle - Philip K. Dick
"1962 alternate history novel by science fiction writer Philip K. Dick. The novel is set in the United States, 15 years after the Axis Powers defeated the Allies in World War II and the U.S. submitted to German and Japanese military occupation."
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#126
 2006-03-07, 01:30
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Land of the Ires.
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
I'm a little scared to see all the stuff that's now "required reading".
I guess I'll have to stop being a human now, huh?
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#127
 2006-03-07, 07:18
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
quote: Originally posted by Patrick Bateman: Fai1safe, Ender's Game was by Orson Scott Card, and yes, it does belong on the list. As well as A Breif History of Time, by Stephen Hawking. The Godfather, Mario Puzo (not sure if this one has been posted), and I Hope They Serve Beer In Hell, by Tucker Max.
Thats it thanks. I read it about 2 years ago and couldnt remember.
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#128
 2006-03-07, 19:43
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
William Blake- Songs of Innocence and ExperienceOh, and Albert Camus' L'Etranger- I can't believe that isn't on the list yet! Unless it is, in which case I apologise  Another edit- too many great books! Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf. [This message has been edited by floyd the barber (edited 03-07-2006).]
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#129
 2006-03-19, 19:32
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Re: Required Reading for Humans (Second Edition)
To find the universal elements enough; to find the air and the water exhilarating; to be refreshed by a morning walk or an evening saunter... to be thrilled by the stars at night; to be elated over a bird's nest or a wildflower in spring - these are some of the rewards of the simple life. - John Burroughs
Or Bump if you prefer.
[This message has been edited by Euda (edited 03-19-2006).]
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