Don't you think that if they really wanted to blow the fuck out of the US they could jsut about anytime they wanted? I emant ehy could hijack planes outside of the US and fly them overseas from germany, or England or soemthing. Our leaders are fucking dumbasses, sure they can stop a highjacker form jacking in the Dc area or phili or soemwhere but we arn't the only place thats flies into the US lol. In my opinion they are jsut palying gmaes with us, they could blow our fucking heads out of our asses any day of the week. Think about it, and perhaps you shoudl take head and listen to me.

It would be pretty obvious about 10 minutes into the hi-jaking that the plane was not following its flight route. We would contact them, get some bull shit answer, and then we would scramble our plane and prepare to shoot them down. They would never even get close to us, and even if they did, the majority of their fuel would be consumed. You should think about that.

al-quida sucks they're everywhere and not just arabs also in cape town are loads of el-quida ppl and trust me these guys cause more shit than green peace

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Originally posted by Dr.Murdok:
al-quida sucks they're everywhere and not just arabs also in cape town are loads of el-quida ppl and trust me these guys cause more shit than green peace

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Terrists are no big deal.. They pull violent shit once every decade in our country. The boys in blue are worse. They harass people every day and no media coverage is done about it.

Al Qaeda or the Mujahadeen are really nothing but a rebel force of ragtag soldiers training with whatever cheap 1920s model mauser rifles, a few kolashnikovs, a few rpgs captured from U.S.S.R. and a couple of stinger missiles that are probably so damaged by sand and elemental damage that they will blow up in the users hands. Their training consits of vietnam era tactical millitary manuals that the C.I.A. let them have. The supposedly impressive CQB(close quarters battle) shown repeatedly by the major news networks show exactly the level of training these "soldiers" have. They could probably take out a few street level cops with those tactics in a perfect world, but their world is far from perfect. They have no disciple. Watch the video. Notice the lack of muzzle dicipline. Sweeping your own squad members with your gun muzzle is just piss poor training, and in full pitched battle will probably mean the death of at least one friendly just because these soldiers don't understand muzzle sweeps and line of sight discipline. The cheap Pakistani
firearms most are using are hand made using primitive techniques and tools, and most likely will jam or misfire about every thirty rounds. The levels of the explosives used are about on par with what a veteran backyard ballistics board poster could do with a poorly stocked kitchen or garage and no home depot access. The only decent hardware these "soldiers" have are the plundered Soviet era kolashnikovs and RPGs, and who knows how many of them are still viable after after 15 years in The harsh Afghan climate. I could go on and on, but why? These Mujahadeen are no threat to us. The threat to us in this country would be the sleeper cell guys that live here, and actually have access to quality weaponry and technology...but without daily training even Delta Force or Seal team operators get rusty, much less an Arab, who cannot train because of having to maintain a low profile. Instinctual reaction time is slowed quickly without daily use. Weapons proficiency degrades, and knowledge is forgotten. We have reason to fear al qaeda death squads, and suicide bombers, but they have more reason to fear us. They know their enemy, yet they know nothing of us. They sleep away, waiting for the orders to strike us, but we are at their doors with breaching charges and flashbangs... MP5's on double tap, and .308 PSG1 sniper rifles. They have shit in their mess kits. The guys about to breach their door aren't even millitary operators... but county police SWAT, and FBI HRT. We are saving our A teams for quiet little spook wars where in the night vision goggles a alqaeda soldier hit by heavy artilery just equals so much green blob.

even if the plane was hijacked and shot down, at the bell it is terrorists-100+, america-4. combined with the phsycological effects of these actions (the most important effects) it seems like a win no matter what.

He was arguing that foreign planes be hi-jacked and plowed into American buildings. This means that only minimal Americans would be on the plane. Second, it is an attack that "prevented" and many more lives were saved. The plane that crashed in the field in Pennsylvania was a tradgedy, yes, but it was also a great victory.

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Originally posted by RAOVQ:
at the bell it is terrorists-100+, america-4.

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So, "at the bell", what is the Bali tally (a little rhyme) concerning Oz. Just happened to notice that you conveniently failed to mention that.

Nox