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| News of the World Current events discussion and links to stuff that's happening right now. Who needs CNN when you have totse? |
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#1
 2002-12-02, 18:34
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Askr 
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September 11 widow condemns US war plans
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/wtc-d02.shtml
Selected parts of the article:
Her next sentence, however, was edited out of the broadcast. �What evil have we created that would bring people from another nation to do this to us?� she asked. �Don�t we need to look at our own actions?�
�Don�t tell me that there was a communications problem between the CIA and the FBI,� she said. �I don�t trust that 19 fanatics just got onto planes and created that much havoc without anyone knowing.�
She was troubled by the inequities in the compensation regulations, which reflect and reinforce the social stratification in society as a whole. As it is now configured, the childless widow of a 25-year-old investment banker making $125,000 a year will receive four to five times as much as families with children left behind by blue-collar workers killed in the attack. �My reaction was, why not give us all the same amount?� she said.
�In truth, I don�t think many people who lost someone feel any overwhelming patriotism,� she said. �I went to some meetings with survivors, and nobody felt that. I wish we could gather all those who had someone killed in a town meeting and come to some consensus about what political voice we could have�to say that we as the survivors of September 11 don�t want a war against Iraq.�
Read the article yourself if your interested in what else she had to say...
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#2
 2002-12-03, 04:04
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
just because she had a husband die in S11 does not mean she knows jack shit about international politics. these fucking lunatics ruin the anti-war standing with their fucked up conspiracy theorys, stupid ignorant remarks and bullshit anecdotes.
whenever there is a protest happening anywhere, the news will always pick the most ignorant person (i have seen a 10 year old girl speak for a protest of about 3000, it was fucking shameful) to speak. as a result the entire point is lost and everyone maght as well go home.
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#3
 2002-12-03, 04:15
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
Also notice that everytime there is a tornado, they invariably interview the guy from the trailer park with the gap tooth and the number 3 Nascar hat.
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#4
 2002-12-03, 06:28
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
US war plans wipe out arab mother fuckers works for us in africa why not u? it's u they want us they recrout
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#5
 2002-12-03, 15:08
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Askr 
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
quote: Originally posted by Dr.Murdok: US war plans wipe out arab mother fuckers works for us in africa why not u? it's u they want us they recrout
Things dont translate over the internet as well as you would seem to like, my friend... What I mean is, what the hell is that sapposed to mean?
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#6
 2002-12-05, 18:51
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Askr 
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
quote: Originally posted by RAOVQ: just because she had a husband die in S11 does not mean she knows jack shit about international politics. these fucking lunatics ruin the anti-war standing with their fucked up conspiracy theorys, stupid ignorant remarks and bullshit anecdotes.
So you're saying that a widow whose husband died in the spet. 11 thing(not sure if i should call it a bombing or what) is less valid then some one like you who doesn't live in this country? You are the one making stupid ignorant remarks here... [This message has been edited by Askr (edited 12-05-2002).]
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#7
 2002-12-05, 20:54
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
What he appears to be saying is that just because you are a victim doesn't mean that you are qualified to offer commentary on the situation. This is simmilar to when Barbara Streisand sends a fax to the Democrats offering them political advice. This is not saying that she is not entitled to an opinion, but what the hell does she know?
The grieving woman is being used to sensationalize the issue by the anti-war proponents. It is meant to grab at your heart and is not an appeal to your mind or reason.
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#8
 2002-12-06, 15:09
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Askr 
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
quote: Originally posted by NukeChild: The grieving woman is being used to sensationalize the issue by the anti-war proponents. It is meant to grab at your heart and is not an appeal to your mind or reason.
And yet no one seems to care/notice when pro-war media does the same thing. Finding some pissed off person who has just lost a loved one and hasn't really thought about what they are saying yet, but just decides we need to kill whoever they tell us we do is no better than doing it the other way. And yet like I said no one cares or notices that, just when it goes the other way...
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#9
 2002-12-07, 13:52
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
An entire thread devoted to the fact that the press loves sensationalism, regardless of the point of view. "If it bleeds, it leads". Now since both sides bleed, we (the press) can claim that we are 'objective and present both sides'. Just keep the blood flowing kiddies...all of this translates to viewership and eventually advertising dollars.
Nox
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#10
 2002-12-13, 01:31
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Cokeboy 
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
Nox's cynicism is admirable in the face of this "I'm putting my fingers in my ears and shouting my point so I can't hear yours" that seems to be going around.
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#11
 2002-12-14, 23:15
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I Love Poop 
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Re: September 11 widow condemns US war plans
quote: just because she had a husband die in S11 does not mean she knows jack shit about international politics.
quote: So you're saying that a widow whose husband died in the spet. 11 thing(not sure if i should call it a bombing or what) is less valid then some one like you who doesn't live in this country?
Well it is probabaly true. In all actuality she doesn't know jack shit about international politics and world history =)
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