Just want to hear your thoughts on whether America is the real terrorist or not

i believe in some ways that's accurate. The american government is just a big extortion racket. And i believe this war on 'terror' and homeland 'security' has gone on far enough. I believe that the world trade center incident shouldn't have occured, but our leaders are going about stuff the wrong way. How does bombing afghanistan solve any of the problems? Has it really solved any so far? Billions of dollars are pumped into the homeland security and for what? So we can have these new color coded terror alerts. These are completely useless. "there is a high possibility of attack maybe somewhere, sometime, but we don't know" how does this kind of information help anyone at all. I apologize for ranting. Back to the us being the terrorist. We act like we govern the whole world. and now it's our 'duty' to eject saddam hussein. How many billions will this cost, and how many lives will be taken? Just because a few ignorant politcians think that this will help, it's branded the will of the nation. Thank god i got out of the military.

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Originally posted by ubermutant:
So we can have these new color coded terror alerts. These are completely useless. "there is a high possibility of attack maybe somewhere, sometime, but we don't know" how does this kind of information help anyone at all.

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it helps because the government is so ignorant, buerocratic(think i spelled that worng), and sometimes seeming apathetic that they need to color coded system to remind them what is good and what is bad. they aren't smart enough to figure this out without pretty colors. They admitted that they had warnings that hijacked planes might be used in this way before 9/11, it took them a year to admit it but they did. They claimed they had no idea and did nothing to increase security. when the planes were hijacked they were still going to do nothing about it that i heard. they just sat on thier hands and didn't ground the rest of the planes in the air till one stuck the wtc. without the pretty colors it would just happen all over again. they even need to paint thier heads red and thier asses blue to remind them which one talks and which one to stuck in a toilet.

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Americans are not the true terrorists, but the Bush Empire and the new neo-fascists are.

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Originally posted by ubermutant:
How does bombing Afghanistan solve any of the problems? Has it really solved any so far?

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It's solved the "How are we going to get all those trillions of dollars in crude oil and gas in the Caspan Sea via. the Trans-Afghan pipeline when the Taliban awarded the project to Argentina?" problem. We went in there, took out the Taliban, installed a "transitional" (euphamism for "puppet") Government, and gave the OK for UNICOL to begin the pipeline construction.

America is not terrorist. Their intentions are good... But you know what the road to hell is paved with.

oh! oh! i know! is it dead peoples bones? its dead peoples bones isn't it? im right, its paved with bones from people in hell right?

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Originally posted by soulless_psychotic:
Just want to hear your thoughts on whether America is the real terrorist or not

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Not.

Nox

Its not all of them yu know.
www.raisethefist.com

Peace Renegade,

that websites not bad but personally i think this one has better and more clear information... http://www.wsws.org

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Originally posted by Renegade:
Its not all of them yu know.
www.raisethefist.com

Peace Renegade,

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and the owner of that site will be put in jail soon. so much for freedom of speech.

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and the owner of that site will be put in jail soon. so much for freedom of speech.

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Is this a fact or opinion?

Nox

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Originally posted by 4ot:
and the owner of that site will be put in jail soon. so much for freedom of speech.

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He was already arrested and had his computer taken away by the FBI for saying that Bush had future knowledge of thd Sept. 11'th attacks 2 days in advance on the Rage Against The Machine forums. They shut down the RATM boards and traced everyones IP's. Since then he has created raisethefist.com.



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He was already arrested and had his computer taken away by the FBI for saying that Bush had future knowledge of thd Sept. 11'th attacks 2 days in advance on the Rage Against The Machine forums. They shut down the RATM boards and traced everyones IP's. Since then he has created raisethefist.com.

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See Nox's post?

I remember loads of RATM refugees spreading their anti-American whining onto other message boards.

Still, it was a pretty ridiculous heavy-handed security measure.

yes the US govt is the real terrorists, but are you truly afraid now that you know?

it's just frustrating as hell. So much money from so many people is being spent by a handful of guys who don't give a crap about who's money it is. Sure this has been said before, but it pains me everytime i think about it.

it is fact that he will be going to jail for having nothing more than what totse.com has in the way of bomb making. i cant seem to bring it up now, so they must have shut it down already.

Prehaps Bush is using the terror card to distract the Americans from their overwelming domestic problems.