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| News of the World Current events discussion and links to stuff that's happening right now. Who needs CNN when you have totse? |
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#1
 2001-12-03, 15:20
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Israel vs. Palestine
twin suicide bombings in Israel last night. well it looks like it'll be Palestine next. great just great............
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#2
 2001-12-03, 15:34
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
oh fuck, israel just shot three missiles at yassir arafats headquarters, jesus fucking christ are they crazy???? sharon just got back from meeting with the antichrist (g.w. bush) and he directly attacks arafat, shit.
this is no mere bombing raid on a defenseless country....
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#3
 2001-12-03, 17:57
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preying mantis 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Did you guys ever read the news before all this Afghanistan shit. These two countries (if you call palestine a country) have been at it for years, probably about fifty. Hundreds have died this year to suicide bombs, shootings, military action (on the israeli side). Just because a bus blew up doesn't mean world war three just started.
This is why i pity some americans. Most know that this is an everyday occurance in the world and are grateful that its not happening to them. There are some though that don't even know what goes on outside their own borders. I think you two fall into the second category.
Is the tide of bullshit in this forum ever going to stop. Recently i've heard russia have joined the fray and wil soon start on america, oh newsflash , israel have been bombed, china are going to invade afghanistan. It is becoming blatently clear that some people really do have no idea what goes on in this world. Half of you probably didn't even know where afghanistan was until recently, even though the terrorists they habour have been attacking america for years.
Does it ever stop?
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#4
 2001-12-03, 21:03
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
still we are being told by our news that our soldiers are not fighting.... it's an obvious lie, that's why sometimes i don't know what's up, i gotta come here to find, at least, less fucked up information.
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#5
 2001-12-03, 21:43
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
i did overreact a little when i first heard of israel attacking arafat, but i still think it's worth dsicussion... now he's called for an emergency meeting of islamic countries.
is it more serious than usual, i do think so.
i have no illusions that the muslim world is weak. and a major scale offensive against our actions all over the middle east is not something i look forward to.....
these are MY posts on this page so you are speaking only to and about me, so chill the fuck out einstein, i have a great deal of knowledge of what goes on outside of our borders, i know about the long bloody history of isreal and palestine, i know that if they get into it, the situation will escalate.
i don't like being at war. i would hate for it to go beyond where it already is, this is why i took this news so seriously....
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#6
 2001-12-04, 09:34
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White Witch 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Its pointless. Arafat is a lying dog. He puts on these bullshit sherades(sp) of arresting the "bad guys" who form these suicide squades. And everyone is saying Israel are baby killers. Give me a break. The shit is starting. But then again i can see the whole peace process start all over. Not to be nihilistic about this but to me its putting off the inevitable. It was written thousands of years ago. You dont have to believe in the bible to read it and see its all related. This is in fact a religous war.
Bottom line if The USA doesnt back israel we are hypocrits for condeming their actions. If we dont back israel and sell them arms all the muslim nations arabs, iran, asian nations of that region as well as north african nations like Egypt will roll right in and slaughter the jews. there will be a huge amount of ethnic cleansing and once again the Jews will have to flee and become the Renegade race it once was. We must defend Israel or we condem ourselves.
Bottom line, I hate to say it but Billy Grahms son today made a bold statement about the Quran that i have been saying months before all this shit broke out. The Koran/Qu'Ran clearly states to kill all infidels (Clearly states christians, Jews and pagans) who refuse to submit unto Islam. It also contridicts itself and says Jews and Christians will live peacfully among Muslims if they submit (Respect as a higher race or the chosen people of God) but bottom line it clearly states to kill non muslims. Especially Pagans.
I dont want to hear about these Modernized Muslims in America that say shit like "Oh we condem this act and blah blah" because if they truely worship islam they must be loyal and to be loyal is to kill non Muslims. In a future when Islam becomes the Largest religion and it starts to take control of laws then you will see Israel in decline. We must take control now or we will lose our power as The Greatest and strongets nation in the world. Bush has signed an agreement to destroy 90% of out nuclear capabilities to russia? Get a fucking life. Do we actually trust Russia?
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#7
 2001-12-04, 17:35
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preying mantis 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Trust russia, no, never. But then i sometimes don't trust my own friends. Russia and America are no longer the enemies they once were. In fact, more people probably hate russia than america.
And as for Israel. They pre-empted attacks by the egyptians, syrians and others before, and looking at the current state of countries armed forces, they could probably do it again.
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#8
 2001-12-08, 13:42
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preying mantis 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Reality check........world hasn't ended
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#9
 2001-12-08, 21:55
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White Witch 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
quote: Originally posted by flindelspleet: oh fuck, israel just shot three missiles at yassir arafats headquarters, jesus fucking christ are they crazy???? sharon just got back from meeting with the antichrist (g.w. bush) and he directly attacks arafat, shit.
this is no mere bombing raid on a defenseless country....
nice.. you quote the anti christ but you take christs name in vane. dude.. how do you know that Arafat isnt working for the anti christ? if you are gonna drag religion into this I recall God promising Moses and his people this land. since this is a religous war and all. Arafat is a 2 faced liar.. thats been proven many times
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#10
 2001-12-09, 03:13
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
i say nuke palestine.
arafat says he's arrested 110 people already in three days.
makes me wonder what he's been doing the last three years.
israel says there's still 30-36 more terrorists to go.
now we're talking WEST BANK AND GAZA STRIP.
146 FUCKING TERRORISTS IN THIS LITTLE AREA.
fuck em.
i don't know how many people live there,
but that's got to be a high percentage.
and i won't even put the whole blame on arafat.
at the last peace talks the former prime minister of israel sacrificed his political career to give palestine their own land and a sharing of jerusalem as a capital city for both nations.
arafat wouldn't take it, unless it included all palestinians able to return to live in israel.
which tells me them people don't want their own state,
they want to be part of the israeli state, which will outnumber the israeli's that live there and turn it into another arab nation with the israeli's displaced again for another 2000 years probably.
i'm sorry but i'm with israel on this one,
the palestinians don't want their own land, they can't have israel's.
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#11
 2001-12-09, 11:08
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White Witch 
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arabs and romans and egyptions all displaced the jews. its time they come home.
I will back jews to the end. if it was up to the muslims the whole world would worship islam. they scare me. just let me be!
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#12
 2001-12-09, 15:13
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Canyonero 
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quote: Originally posted by White Witch: nice.. you quote the anti christ but you take christs name in vane.
dude.. how do you know that Arafat isnt working for the anti christ? if you are gonna drag religion into this I recall God promising Moses and his people this land.
since this is a religous war and all. Arafat is a 2 faced liar.. thats been proven many times
i was using figures of speech. there is no god it's all bullshit, i was stoned off my ass here on totse with the tv playing in the other room. when i heard the news report from the other room, i jumped on and typed up a bunch of bullshit that i was embarassed to read the next day. "Allah""god" these are the causes for all these stupid wars. people are fighting over their imaginary friends (to steal a quote from someone i don't know). it's a bunch of bullshit. i agree, arafat is trying to play both sides of the fence and should be eliminated, but with all the jew haters over there, it will cause a much bigger war than just those two countries. that's what i was trying to say, but i was thinking emotionally and not logically... probably due to the reason mentioned above. i wish we could take all the world leaders and but them in a big room with feather pillows and glue and let them all sort this shit out without killing innocent people. and they could all come out looking like the chickens they are.
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#13
 2001-12-09, 18:52
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White Witch 
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quote: Originally posted by preying mantis: Reality check........world hasn't ended
i hate to disagree but i think it is as we speak. the lifespan of a planet is far greater then that of human life. You life is fractions of a second to earths. Earth is dying right now!
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#14
 2001-12-09, 21:58
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
I have a question...
If Islam is the world's fastest growing religion, why do people convert to it when it clearly says to kill other non-Muslims? That's not right in my opinion.
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#15
 2001-12-10, 01:17
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preying mantis 
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The rate of conversion probably isn't as high as other religions. Because the birth rate is generally higher in Islamic countries more people are born into Islam. Also becauce of its nature more people probably continue being a muslim than say a christian who will one day stop going to church and therefore affecting the rate at which christianity grows.
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#16
 2001-12-10, 20:54
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i dont go to church. Jesus didnt go to temple because he was an outcast from most Jews. Jesus prayed in homes and encouraged fellowship. Im not saying church is a bad place but I was a member of several denominations and its always a power trip.
Christianity was on the decline but many people are returning to it based on current events and a will to bring back Family values into their families.
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#17
 2001-12-11, 15:46
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I was listening to NPR this morning. Arafet is 72, and his time in power is almost up. Idealy, what kind of person would you have replace him? What kind of person will the Palestinians replace him with?
*shudder*
------------------ Common Sense Is What Tells You The Earth Is Flat
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#18
 2001-12-12, 00:49
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preying mantis 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Same reason that saddam was kept in power in the '91.
The person to replace Arafat is someone that probably say what he was doing as a dead end and will take them in a differant direction. Hopefully this direction will be a better one.
I doubt it though.
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#19
 2001-12-13, 21:10
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Sol463 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
I have a radical solution for the Middle East conflict.
Remember the movie The Day the Earth Stood Still. When the alien came down and told everyone, the collective civilizations of the galaxy are tired of violence and war in the galaxy, and if Earth didn't get its shit together, that they were just going to destroy it before the Earth could rise to a point that it became the galaxy's problem.
Same concept tell Sharon and Arafat that they have five days to work out a lasting peace, if not, we'll nuke every square mile of the Palestine and Israel. Either way by the end of the week there would be peace in that region.
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#20
 2001-12-13, 23:57
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preying mantis 
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You know what, thats not such a bad idea!
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#21
 2001-12-14, 00:07
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
quote: Originally posted by White Witch: Its pointless. Arafat is a lying dog. He puts on these bullshit sherades(sp) of arresting the "bad guys" who form these suicide squades. And everyone is saying Israel are baby killers. Give me a break. The shit is starting. But then again i can see the whole peace process start all over. Not to be nihilistic about this but to me its putting off the inevitable. It was written thousands of years ago. You dont have to believe in the bible to read it and see its all related. This is in fact a religous war.
Bottom line if The USA doesnt back israel we are hypocrits for condeming their actions. If we dont back israel and sell them arms all the muslim nations arabs, iran, asian nations of that region as well as north african nations like Egypt will roll right in and slaughter the jews. there will be a huge amount of ethnic cleansing and once again the Jews will have to flee and become the Renegade race it once was. We must defend Israel or we condem ourselves.
Bottom line, I hate to say it but Billy Grahms son today made a bold statement about the Quran that i have been saying months before all this shit broke out. The Koran/Qu'Ran clearly states to kill all infidels (Clearly states christians, Jews and pagans) who refuse to submit unto Islam. It also contridicts itself and says Jews and Christians will live peacfully among Muslims if they submit (Respect as a higher race or the chosen people of God) but bottom line it clearly states to kill non muslims. Especially Pagans.
I dont want to hear about these Modernized Muslims in America that say shit like "Oh we condem this act and blah blah" because if they truely worship islam they must be loyal and to be loyal is to kill non Muslims. In a future when Islam becomes the Largest religion and it starts to take control of laws then you will see Israel in decline. We must take control now or we will lose our power as The Greatest and strongets nation in the world. Bush has signed an agreement to destroy 90% of out nuclear capabilities to russia? Get a fucking life. Do we actually trust Russia?
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ??? FUCK YOU AND YOUR U s FREEDOM TO FUCK ASS... YOU ARE NOT THE RELIGION,THE POLITICAL SYSTEM,THE SOCIAL OR SOCIO POLITICAL,THE STRONGEST,OR THE MOST IMPORTANBT NATION ON THE EARTH. THE MOST PARANOID AND THE MOST SELF IMPORTANT;MAYBE: AMERICA IS A FRACTION: 6 BILLION PEOPLE on the planet and you have the largest proportion of OVERWEIGHT WASTEHEAPS and probably the largest volume of shit to dispose of. wake up...
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#22
 2001-12-14, 03:14
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lostmind 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
danish elitist?
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#23
 2001-12-14, 06:57
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
Let them bomb each other if thats what they feel like doing. We should stay away from the problems of other countries most esspecially Israel. Israel seems to cause alot of problems for the west. Alot of the hatered exspressed towards the U.S. (and the west) is because of our support of Israel, fuck Israel.
------------------ From the cold north
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#24
 2001-12-14, 11:57
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Canyonero 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
quote: Originally posted by hellis: Let them bomb each other if thats what they feel like doing. We should stay away from the problems of other countries most esspecially Israel. Israel seems to cause alot of problems for the west. Alot of the hatered exspressed towards the U.S. (and the west) is because of our support of Israel, fuck Israel.
i say fuck em too, but they own most of america so what's the use?? i wish they would just blow each other up. bunch of stupid assholes fighting over a stretch of desert....... anyone want to buy a radioactive landfill?
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#25
 2001-12-14, 21:46
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lostmind 
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Re: Israel vs. Palestine
our problems are because of israel?
do you really know the history?
1947 israel becomes a nation, the u.n. offers palestine a nation of their own as well.
palestine turns down their own statehood because they want it all.
a war ensues and the palestinians are kicked out of israel into jordanian controlled land, the west bank and gaza strip.
in 1968 a palestinian uprising occurs after the jews reclaim israel.
this is how palestine becomes "occupied territory", basically because their muslim brothers in jordan said,
you're on your own, the un is backing this and if we interfere we're going to have superior western powers aligned against us.
so their muslim brothers, not only in jordan, but in iraq, iran, syria, saudi arabia, yemen, u.a.e., egypt, and the rest of them, left palestine to fend for themselves.
you can still see it today.
and this creates the birth of terrorism, a people whose people abandoned them.
israel accepted the birth of the palestinian state in 1947, they've accepted acknowlegdement of the palestinian authority 1993, once known as the terrorist organization the palestinian liberation organization, headed by a known terrorist yasser arafat.
in 2000 at camp david, the israeli's give palestine an offer that ended the career of barak as israeli prime minister:
the palestinians were offered total control of the west bank and gaza strip(which they have anyway, but for some oxymoronical reason they just can't accept it i guess);
and in addition to the recognition of statehood by the israeli's and the world, they would be given jerusalem to share as a capital with israel, this is what cost barak his job, and paved the way for the military leader sharon to come into power, somebody who had reputation as being hard on palestine, and yasser arafats sworn enemy.
does arafat take the deal of statehood and shared authority in jerusalem?
hell no, 53 years after being offered statehood,
they still want it all, like sharon said they want a nation not beside israel, but instead of israel.
palestinians,
fuck em.
and in my opinion the world would be a better place if we
NEVER WOULD'VE GIVEN ANY OP THEM MOTHERFUCKERS SOVEREIGNTY.
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