Do two exact causes with no variables equal the same effect?

It should

no.

people thought so until experiments in Quantum Physics proved otherwise. It seems that everything is much more chaotic than we thought.

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Originally posted by AYBABTU:
no.

people thought so until experiments in Quantum Physics proved otherwise. It seems that everything is much more chaotic than we thought.

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And the particles we know of now are the smallest ones? What if there are particles scientists don't even know exist that are effecting the experiments? That's not even taking the chaos theory into account. Simple solutions can become very chaotic with subtle changes. That doesn't necessarily mean causes don't have definite effects.

In theory it should.. but you know what they say about communism...

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Originally posted by JamesTheGod:
Do two exact causes with no variables equal the same effect?

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if you eliminate variables, ergo chaos, then yes, the two exact causes would equal the same effect. but you're still talking about a closed identity loop. if your causes are identical, (sans chaos, as only *god* could have it) then there is really only one cause.

In traditional physics, yes.
In quantum mechanics, no.

It realy depends on the scale at which the result is important.

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Originally posted by Prometheus:
In quantum mechanics, no.

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How? Can you explain?

By pure nature, even if you eliminate all the variables, chaos still exists. Thats why things that shouldn't happen do.

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Originally posted by SpaceFalcon2001:
By pure nature, even if you eliminate all the variables, chaos still exists. Thats why things that shouldn't happen do.

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chaos IS the existance of variables. if one could somehow eliminate ALL variables, then there would be zero chaos.

Heisenburg would be turning over in his grave with your statement, redmanphu

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Originally posted by redmanphu:
chaos IS the existance of variables. if one could somehow eliminate ALL variables, then there would be zero chaos.

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chaos is when there are no variables, and something still goes wrong. moron